Senator DeMint's response to the Coburn endorsement
By AcademicElephant Posted in 2008 | Jim DeMint | John McCain | Mitt Romney | Tom Coburn — Comments (38) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
From the diaries, by Erick.
Staunch Romney supporter Jim DeMint sent out the following email today:
Today, Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina) issued the following statement upon learning the news that Senator Tom Coburn (R-Oklahoma) endorsed John McCain for President in Greenville, South Carolina this morning. Senator DeMint has endorsed Governor Mitt Romney for President.
"Illegal immigration and tax relief may not be big issues in Oklahoma, but they are here. Thankfully the people of South Carolina will decide for themselves who will stop illegal immigration and rebuild our economy."
This is getting to be something of a game of inside-the-senate baseball, but the Coburn-DeMint split is a pretty strong indicator to me that we're still far from a "consensus" candidate.
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Has DeMint endorsed anyone?
"Senator DeMint has endorsed Governor Mitt Romney for President."
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...about illegal immigration.
They have tough new sanctions against employers of illegals, and there is currently a mass exodus of illegals from the state.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa
are happy to point out the new roads and scholarships available in Arkansas.
Texas Proud and Texas Loud
....are two of our very, very small number of rock-solid conservative pillars.
the Coburn-DeMint split is a pretty strong indicator to me that we're still far from a "consensus" candidate.
I think that is very, very well said.
-ative track on something the last year or so, that it caused me to lose a lot of respect for him. Can't remember now what it is.
will try and retreive
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Uhh, you are probably just thinking about the article he wrote in National Review in which he said that he thought McCain's stance on immigration was brave and principled, even though he disagreed with it.
The only other issue that is even arguable is that he said Alberto Gonzalas should resign.
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"FEAR THE 'STACH!!!"
Yes, he went wobbly on the war between the Nov 06 election day losses and the new year.
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Coburn has been a staunch supporter of the war, though he may have made a comment once that angered other supporters. I can't remember what it was, but I'm pretty sure it was minor compared to what other weak-kneed Republicans were saying around that time.
character when times were tough. When the troops and America most needed him. Even McCain was talking wobbly.
One man wasn't: President Bush
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I hate to do this, because I typically find your comments interesting and defensible, but on this thread you've strayed from the facts significantly.
Maybe someone has hacked into your computer.
Whatever your circumstances, it's a little bit silly to call McCain wobbly on the war.
Hit him on global warming or campaign finance reform, but if you punch him on the war you lose credibility (which you're also losing by suggesting that Coburn is anything other than a rock-solid conservative).
Playinh armchair CINK that played into the Dems Bushlied crap that gave hope to the enemy. He accuses Americans of torture, yet names not one person that was tortured nor any that did the torturing. He send the mesage to the terrorists that they need not fear capture. He wants to give lawyers to terrorists so they can sue in federal courts. Wants to close Gitmo.
wobbly
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Coburn get's clock cleaned on MTP in 2005
MR. RUSSERT: And we are back. Dr. Tom Coburn, welcome.
SEN. TOM COBURN, (R-OK): Thank you. Good to be here.
MR. RUSSERT: We're talking about the Supreme Court, the judicial philosophy, litmus test. Back in the campaign when you ran for the Senate in September of 2004, you said, "As a physician, I know partial birth abortion is a barbaric act that is never justified. As a senator, I will oppose the confirmation of any judicial nominee who thinks the people have no right to outlaw this atrocious act." Litmus test in effect.
And now you're saying, "Applying rigid litmus tests to this nominee would be unfair and inappropriate. The President and Senate have a solemn duty to nominate and approve judges who will reflect the Constitution and the Constitution alone, not any other standard--ideological or otherwise."
Isn't it true now that you could never vote for a candidate who came forward and said, "I believe in Roe v. Wade a candidate for Supreme Court. I believe that partial birth abortion is constitutional." You couldn't accept that just as Senator Kennedy said he couldn't accept someone who wanted to overturn Roe v. Wade.
SEN. COBURN: Oh, I think I could, Tim. I think if, in fact, they had a judicial philosophy that said-- you know, there's two camps out there. One wants to move the Supreme Court back hard to where it was pre-Roe v. Wade by becoming activists in terms of a conservative camp. There's another that says, "Let's go back to where we were before we moved this hard shift to the left and let's have judges that don't make law, that follow stare decisis and look at the times when stare decisis needs to be overturned and overturn it." That's happened 200 times in our history where the Supreme Court has overruled their own precedence. So the question is the philosophy: Do you march hard to the right or do you march back to the center and let the process take its course as it should?
You know, overturning Roe v. Wade isn't going to change our country significantly if we don't change hearts and minds of people. And part of our division in our country today has been led on those issues. And to reverse it abruptly in a fast way isn't going to solve our problems with abortion because it'll just move it to the state. What we need to do is we need to change people's hearts.
MR. RUSSERT: So if someone came forward, if there was a Democratic president and they put forward a candidate who said, "I believe in Roe v. Wade and we're not going to overturn it," you would consider voting for them?
SEN. COBURN: Absolutely. And I said that during the campaign as well.
Coburn wobbles under pressure from MSM reporters. It was always wrong for our senators to consent to judges that are activists that ignore their oath. Orin Hatch's position and the GOP were always wrong to say that just because a President is elected tha they should nominate most anyone they send up.
more later
Coburn is a weak public advocate
I'll try and find the other specific on the war in late 2006 or early 2007.
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knowing they'd hung another trophy on the wall, right next to Libby and Rumsfeld. That is very bad precedent.
Equally disturbing, his departure made it possible for what I view as an apparent shift within the Justice Department regarding Second Amendment rights.
The United States recently filed an Amicus Curiae in DC vs Heller (07-290), but in all practicality, the Bush Administration has sided with the District of Columbia.
(brief)
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“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan
...it was posted all over RS. As far as Gonzales goes, the man was an incompetent manager, an incompetent politician, an incompetent AG, and -- the cardinal sin in DC -- an incompetent liar.
He never should have been AG in the first place, and his appointment by Bush is representative for Bush's penchant for occasionally appointing based on loyalty, not based on competence (for more examples, see "Miers, Harriet" and "Rice, Condoleezza"). Regardless of the joy Democrats may have taken at his ouster, AGAG's resignation was the right move for all involved.
but I'm not convinced about Gonzales's other attributes.
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He authorized the surveillance that saved lives.
He is an American hero.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
www.fred08.com
and as I am a noted McCain hater, it's hardly worth mentioning that this move by Coburn was REALLY not cool, as far as I'm concerned.
Not. Cool.
And I am a big (other than this current brain flatulence) fan of Coburn as well.
Stare decisis is fo' suckas -- Feddie
landed on McCain much earlier in the day. The only bigger flake in the state is Sanford.
GC is not a fan of any of the above
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Like the junior senator from South carolina who seems to believe that Romney merits the nomination because he will help our economy recover.
For one, the country isn't Michigan, and even if it were I for one wouldn't want my tax dollars going towards a Marshall Plan like the one Romney proposed for Michigan.
In addition, just a quick look at Romney's record in Mass demonstrates that he did nothing to keep that state's growth on par with the rest of the country's.
lets calculate the cost of McCain's new MMGW Church religion? He panders to the world's LEFT and NYT editorial board that would bankrupt America due to a hoax.
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They mean that he's part of the beltway. Seriously, endorsements from other senators means negative infinity to me. These senators are chummy, even the ones who are opposed on idealogy, like Brownback + McCain. They wheel and deal and now I'm supposed to believe that their endorsement means something?
Endorsements don't mean squat when they come from career legislators.
obviously are not familiar with Senator Coburn. He is the opposite of a career legislator. He kept his promise to only serve 3 terms in the House and has promised to only serve 2 terms in the Senate. Also Coburn is a practicing doctor and still delivers babies when the Senate is not in session. Career politician he is not.
Coburn is the furtherest from a career legislator you can get. Like others have mentioned, he kept his term limits promise and even keeps his medical practice going despite attempts by other Senators to shut it down. I voted for Coburn precisely because of his stubborn record in cutting wasteful spending (we had another great candidate in OKC Mayor Kirk Humphreys), so this endorsement actually holds water with those of us who appreciate what he's doing.
How can you dislike Coburn and Sanford? They are two of the best we have in terms of fighting wasteful spending. Not to mention both of them kept their promises to only serve 3 terms in the House. You must be more of a Ted Stevens Republican.
I hope this press release isn't the start, or continuation, of a Demint-Coburn feud. They can get a lot more done working together then separately. Just seems kinda unnecessary for Demint to take a shot at Coburn.
time. Coburn can't handle the MSM. He folds and sounds weak.
Sanford is good on TV, but some of his ideas are just so goofy and unrealistic that he alienates people he needs to work with. Sanford is also a member of the Church of MMGWarming.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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- American Heritage defines "Leader" as:
- 1. One that leads or guides.
- 2. One who is in charge or in command of others.
- 3a. One who heads a political party or organization.
- b. One who has influence or power, esp. politically.
The words "Bully," "Pompous" and "Vindictive" are un-mistakenly absent.
The Republican Party is in such a sorry state of disarray because we seem to be searching for a "consensus" candidate.
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That's all you need to know. Liberals FEAR Giuliani, Romney and Thompson.
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Now if we can get McCain and Hillary Clinton pal Lindsey Graham out.
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But he missed the boat here.
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
Yes it is; I just hope when all is said and done we can come together and fight the enemy united.
How long ago did Demint endorse Mitt?