True Straight Talk: Taxes, Christians and Timetables in McCain's Own Words.
By aceintx Posted in 2008 — Comments (3) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
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I have posted the following quotes from McCain from various sources. Links have been added where appropriate. I have of course added my own comments but have tried to let the Senator speak for himself wherever possible.
McCain’s attacks on Christian Conservatives in Virginia Beach, Virginia during the 2000 elections, (His contempt of Christian’s participating in the political process is palpable):
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“Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and a few Washington leaders of the pro-life movement call me an unacceptable presidential candidate. They distort my pro- life positions and smear the reputations of my supporters. Why? Because I don't pander to them, because I don't ascribe to their failed philosophy…”
“The union bosses, who have subordinated the interest of working families to their own ambitions, to their desire to preserve their own political power at all costs, are mirror images of Pat Robertson. Just as we embrace working people, we embrace the fine members of the religious conservative community, but that does not mean that we will pander to their self-appointed leaders.”
“My friends, I am a Reagan Republican who will defeat Al Gore…..Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore.”
“Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right.”
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Note the whining about how intolerant Christian Conservatives are all the while proclaiming that “We are the party of Ronald Reagan, not Pat Robertson. We are the party...We are the party of Theodore Roosevelt, not the party of special interests. We are...We are the party of Abraham Lincoln, not...We are the party of Abraham Lincoln, not Bob Jones.”
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McCain’s meltdown on the Michael Reagan Show:
To put this meltdown in context; Senator McCain had volunteered that he might appoint Former Senator Warren Rudman as his Attorney General after being asked what he would have done if confronted with the Elian Gonzalez.
Senator Rudman was arguably the most Liberal Republican in the Senate during his tenure and had made disparaging remarks about Christian Conservatives in his book “War Stories” and during many interviews promoting his book. His remarks included calling Christian Conservatives “Intolerant”, “Bigots” and every other characterization of Religious Conservatives favored by the far left in America.
When McCain mentioned Rudman as a possible pick for his attorney general, Pat Robertson and other Christian groups made phone calls to voters in South Carolina using Rudman's own language against him by calling him a “Vicious Bigot”.
I remember listening to Michael Reagan’s show when this interview transpired and I can tell you this transcript does not begin to illustrate McCain’s psychotic behavior in this interview. It must be heard to be believed. Nonetheless, on with the show:
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Sen. John McCain. Senator, how are you?
John McCain: How are you?
Michael Reagan: I am just fine, thank you very much. Where are you, are you in Fresno?
John McCain: I'm on the bus, I'm on the way to Bakersfield, I'm headed through a lot of very beautiful fruit tree areas. It's very pretty here in the valley.
Michael Reagan: Question I want to ask you, first of all, have you decided now to get into the debate that's going to be taking place on Thursday night?
John McCain: We're having the debate, will be done by satellite from, we'll have to stop on our trip back to New York and we had to cancel some, some ah of our New York schedule, but we'll be there by satellite.
Michael Reagan: All right, let me ask you this, because I think it's an issue, just isn't being played out within the campaign, there's so many other things that are being talked about, but as President of the United States, one of the legacies you would leave would be the judges that you would appoint as President of the United States of America and there's some great concern if Warren Rudman, who is your overall campaign chair, would be in such a position in a McCain administration to appoint judges like Judge Souter to the bench as was done during the Bush administration back in the 1980s.
John McCain: Ah, Warren Rudman did not appoint Judge Souter, President Bush did, remember he was the president.
Michael Reagan: Yes, but...
John McCain: Second of all, Warren Rudman is a fine, decent man who served his country in the Korean War, Attorney General of his state, and a Senator who was highly respected. It was, it was President Bush that appointed Justice Souter.
Michael Reagan: Right, but Warren Rudman...
John McCain: Warren Rudman is 70...let me finish, please, could I finish? Ah, ah, Warren Rudman is 70 years old, he's been, he had a serious illness. He's not interested in playing any active role in a McCain administration and I resent enormously phone calls that were made by Pat Robertson saying that he was a vicious bigot. I think that one might be...
Michael Reagan: Senator, Senator, Senator, Senator, Senator...
John McCain (talking over Reagan): ...well worth talking about as well...
Michael Reagan: Senator!
John McCain: I'm not...
Michael Reagan: Senator!
John McCain: I asked you, Michael, if I could finish, can I finish?
Michael Reagan: But you did finish... [McCain interrupts]
John McCain: Can I Finish? Can I finish? Yes or no?
Michael Reagan: What else do you have to say?
John McCain: Can I finish or not, I mean otherwise...
Michael Reagan: Go ahead.
John McCain: Okay. I don't appreciate having him being called a vicious bigot by Pat Robertson in personal phone calls to hundreds of thousands of Americans. He is a fine and decent man and he will play an advisory role to me because he is a fine and decent man who enjoyed a sterling reputation as United States Senator and Attorney General of the state of New Hampshire.
Michael Reagan: So...
John McCain: Now I'm finished.
Michael Reagan: Very good. And what I was trying to get to is the fact that, yes, Warren Rudman did not appoint him, Warren Rudman's the man who sold [him] to John Sununu, who sold him to President Bush at the time, and what...
John McCain (interrupting): In other words...
Michael Reagan: I want to find out.
John McCain: In other words, in other words, in other words, President Bush and John Sununu did not have any minds of their own. That's, I don't think that's the way it happened.
Michael Reagan: That's, Senator, let me ask you this. There are, there are...
John McCain (interrupting): I don't believe that's how it happened.
Michael Reagan: Well...
John McCain: John Sununu knew Souter just as well as Warren Rudman did, they're both from New Hampshire.
Michael Reagan (talking over McCain): The question is, the question is, what kind of judges would you appoint to the bench? Would they be Souter-like? Would they be judges in the make of a Bork, a Thomas? What kind of judges could we see from a President McCain?
John McCain: My record is very clear as to who I have supported and my record is very clear in public statements that Justice Scalia is a Justice that I admire very much. I also happen to admire Justice Rehnquist, Chief Justice Rehnquist, who is from the state of Arizona. And, ah, but Scalia I admire an enormous amount as well as others. My record as a conservative is very clear, my record on supporting people who adhere to the Constitution is very clear, and my record as a - 18-year record - of conservative positions both physically and others is also very clear.
Michael Reagan: All right. Next question, education. Big issue. I mean, compared to other industrial nations, we here in America, the children routinely test near the bottom. So what about your plan for a better-educated child here in America? What is the McCain plan?
John McCain: Choice, ah, by the way, before we go into that, ah, are you - it doesn't disturb you that Pat Robertson would call up people and say that, that ah, Warren Rudman is a vicious bigot? I'd like you to talk about that a little bit.
Michael Reagan: No, Senator. No, Senator. No, Senator, because let me tell you, I think that gets off...
John McCain (interrupting): No, let me tell you, let me tell you, when the man's name is maligned and his reputation is maligned then it ought to be talked about, okay? (inaudible)
Michael Reagan: Senator McCain, goodbye. (PAUSE) There you go, all he wants to talk about is Pat Robertson and bigotry. He doesn't want to talk about education. Didn't matter what question you asked him, he wanted, everything was an attack. Man does not have the temperament to be President of the United States. As somebody said, another hour of the show, said to me, you know, I know Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan's a friend of mine, etc., You ain't no Ronald Reagan. You ain't no Ronald Reagan. In your dreams, Senator McCain. In your dreams. Only in your dreams. Let's go to the phones, Mike, you're up.
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McCain on taxes Adapted from My Way News http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080131/D8UH1CF80.html
“I disagreed when we had tax cuts without spending restraint," the Arizona senator said.”
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"I made it very clear when I ran in 2000 that I had a package of tax cuts which were very important and very impactful, but I also had restraints in spending," he said.
"And I disagreed when spending got out of control. And I disagreed when we had tax cuts without spending restraint," McCain said.
"And guess what? Spending got out of control. Republicans lost the 2006 election not over the war in Iraq, (but) over spending. Our base became disenchanted."
"If we had done what I wanted to do, we would not only have had the spending restraint, but we'd be talking about additional tax cuts today."
THE FACTS:
Spending was not why McCain said he opposed President Bush's tax cuts in 2001 and 2003.
"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief," McCain said then.
McCain tried but failed to amend the bill to reduce income tax cuts for the wealthiest and give greater benefits to those earning less. He and Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island were the only Republicans to oppose the 2001 tax cuts.
In 2003, McCain opposed a $350 billion tax cut sought by Bush, this time arguing there should be no tax relief while the cost of the Iraq war and its aftermath were still unknown.
"The tax cut is not appropriate until we find out the cost of the war and the cost of reconstruction," McCain said then.
One more Republican senator, Olympia Snowe of Maine, teamed with McCain and Chafee to oppose the 2003 tax cuts. They and Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio teamed to limit the size of the tax cut to $350 billion, half the size of what Bush originally wanted.
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McCain's attacks on Mitt Romney:
Those of you who have read my posts concerning Mitt Romney know I have very little respect for the Governor and trust him about as far as I can throw him but having heard the full quote of his comments concerning time tables for withdrawal for the first time I can't keep quiet concerning Senator McCain's despicable last minute attack on Mitt on the eve of the Florida Primary.
Here's some "Straight talk" for those of you that didn't see the debate tonight and wish to support Senator McCain in his out and out lie concerning Mitt Romney.
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MR. ROMNEY: There's no question that the President and Prime Minister Al Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about, but those should not be a public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds before you're gone."
QUESTION: So, private. You wouldn't do it publicly? Because the president has said flat out that he will veto anything the Congress passes about a timetable for troop withdrawals. As president, would you do the same?
MR. ROMNEY: Well, of course. Can you imagine a setting where during the Second World War we said to the Germans, gee, if we haven't reached the Rhine by this date, why, we'll go home, or if we haven't gotten this accomplished we'll pull up and leave? You don't publish that to your enemy, or they just simply lie in wait until that time. So, of course, you have to work together to create timetables and milestones, but you don't do that with the opposition.
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How is THAT calling for Time Tables? This seems pretty unambiguous to me. But what do I know...I'm not schooled in the Washington art of nuance and obfuscation!
I still intend to vote for Huckabee in Texas for those of you that will no doubt accuse me of drinking the Romney koolaid but this has to be addressed. Shame on you Senator McCain!
One more thing. You can learn a lot about a man by looking at the friends he keeps...and who is endorsing him. it's the usual RINO cast of Characters including Olympia Sno, Susan Collins, John Warner, etc etc. You can go to http://www.johnmccain.com/supporters/ and check it out.
"Note the whining about how intolerant Christian Conservatives"
McCain clearly named names. He didn't attack "Christian Conservatives;" he is a Christian conservative. He talked about Pat Falwell and Pat Robertson. If you are offended for them, then say so. But to say that McCain attacked "Christian Conservatives" is incorrect.
And he criticized them because they distorted his pro-life record.
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I never cared much for Falwell and think Robertson went off the reservation quite a few years ago.
I guess that means I'm not tolerant of Christian Conservatives either.
Wait...I am one.
Romney, are you the candidate for change, or the changing candidate?
Sure McCain, you can have my #$&^%#@$ vote if you want it.
FDT's Principles

So much of it reminds me of why I love John McCain.
-exits