RedState Endorses Barack Obama As President!
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Not really, but it seems that this site has turned a sharp anti-McCain and this kind of rhetoric can only help Barack Obama become President.
Currently, the line of thought is the blame moderates for the corruption and out of control spending in congress within the Republican Party. Adam C makes a good point in that it wasn't moderates in control of congress for those twelve years:
But pork barreling earmarking is not an ideological problem. It's a corruption problem.
Delay. Hastert. Cole. Boehner. These are not moderates. It's not like Specter and Collins are running the [Republicans] in the Senate.
I [also] don't think it's a "conservative" problem, but I do think it's a lot harder to argue that being unpopular due to corruption and the War is somehow caused by moderates.
As noted in comments and blog enties, I started this primary season a Giuliani supporter. I didn't do this just because he was a moderate, but because he was a proven leader during one of the worse attacks on American soil. Being a moderate or conservative does not matter in the long run, it's if the person is a leader.
Correctly pointed out by Adam C, the current problem within the Republican Party is not not one of ideology, but of leadership. The question we are asking ourselves is if a new leader can (1) end corruption, (2) bring down out of control spending, and (3) bring Iraq to a successful end. Let's see how McCain messures up to each of these three bench marks...
If you have forgotten your history, McCain was was part of the group known as the Keating Five. In only his first term in the Senate and already burn by scandal. McCain said of the scandal, "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."
This was a watershed moment for McCain, because he became a supporter of campaign finance reform. We can debate if McCain-Feingold Act is a good law or not, but McCain fought what he saw as a corrupt system and you can't fault him for standing on principle.
McCain has also gone after pork barrel spending within Congress. He was instrumental in pushing through approval of the Line Item Veto Act of 1996.
The 2008 PigBook shows us how the three candidates stand out:
Hillary Clinton is listed on 281 earmarks, among them $390,000 for jazz music at Lincoln Center.
Barack Obama, is listed on 52 earmarks, including $1.6 million for the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago. The aquarium receives 2 million visitors a year and has 36 corporate backers.
John McCain did not request any earmarks this year. He issued a statement instead lauding CAGW for issuing the book:
"Once again, my friends at CAGW have done a great job of compiling a comprehensive list of unnecessary and wasteful pork barrel projects. By shedding light on these egregious projects, they are helping to make Congress more accountable to the American people."
I would like to say first that I believe pulling the troops out before Iraq can hold it's own, would not be a successful end. To that end, McCain will be our one true champion.
Although critical of former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, McCain has always supported the surge:
"This is a chance under the new leadership of General Petraeus and Admiral Fallon to have a chance to succeed. Do I believe it can succeed? Yes, I do." -McCain, Face the Nation
"SO WHAT?!" Says the average conservative on this site while they pound their keyboard. "McCain's an environmentalist and will be speaking to the evil La Raza! The bloody moderate must be stop from ruining my party!!"
So yeah, this site is endorsing Barack Obama by default. Erick made it very clear we should stop attacking McCain, yet no one is listening. When people are belly-aching over President Obama's newest taxes, I will be there to remind you that you refused your support for McCain and now you are going to have to live with the choices you made today.
I'll have none of it, because I support McCain by making a donation. Show me RedState does not want to see a President Obama. Make a difference and donate to the slatecard today (or directly on McCain's site).

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I thought I had it wrong all those years. It would have been another case of "excuse me while I kiss this guy"
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And I have commited to withholding my criticism of him on this site. I save my rants for other places. And, quite honestly, despite my disappointment with him on 3 specific issues, given my limited amount of time in a day, I am saving my rants for Obama currently. 'Cuz Lord knows I don't agree with that man on any topic.
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Just a typical, small town, white girl...
Obama will get a solid share of punches too, but McCain's gonna win this election with a few BR black eyes himself, because if I'm going to vote for him, I reserve the right to b*tch about him every time he does something inconceivably stupid and liberal, which I fear will be often. Strong drink will be necessary for the next 8 years, I fear.
The trouble with our friend John McCain isn't that he's ignorant, but that he knows so much that isn't so.
You had better vote for him in Nov or I am going to come to MI this fall and kick your butt! :>)
To do otherwise is just not plausible at this point.
We have to keep the Marxist out of the big white house. And his bitter, harpy wife.
Now go to bed so you are fresh to play with that boy in the morning.
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Just a typical, small town, white girl...
Jesus, why do all the women I know have to be right? But alas, I'm the first one up, haha! I get to watch something on TV before Sesame Street, and I haven't had tv control in the morning that I don't know what to watch. I guess I'll turn on Sesame Street and wait for the Prince to awaken.
The trouble with our friend John McCain isn't that he's ignorant, but that he knows so much that isn't so.
from you in 5 yrs max.
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
where the comic converts to Judaism so he can tell Jewish jokes. I believe you said just a day or to ago you would not be voting for McCain BR.
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Molon Labe!
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
See, ya'll can argue and banter back and forth about all this to no avail. All I have to do is tell him I'm going to whip his young butt, and he falls right in line.
See, he's smart. He knows I'm right all along. :>)
And so is the soon to be wife. I'm sure he has already learned "yes, dear" quite well.
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Just a typical, small town, white girl...
"Being a moderate or conservative does not matter in the long run, it's if the person is a leader."
FDR was a great leader, but in the long run he turned this country from a free market economy to a mixed socialist-free market economy burdened by a massive welfare state. Leadership is great, but it doesn't do any good if somebody leads us down the wrong road.
Well until he ate his gun I suppose. /snark off
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conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
however healthy that might be, and we can't win elections with whining and half-endorsements along the lines of "McCain sucks, but I suppose I'll vote for him."
He wasn't my first choice, but I'm for him, for him, for him!
Pass the popcorn for the

us. Let's cap and trade that juice in for some texas tea.
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
important to you than reality.
"Not really, but it seems that this site has turned a sharp anti-McCain and this kind of rhetoric can only help Barack Obama become President."
Is that a fact? That would explain all the anti-McCain diaries currently in the recommended list. Oh wait - there are none. As a matter of fact I haven't seen but one or two of the long time posters who we all know have a gripe against McCain saying much of anything anti-McCain. I see a lot of them having said, and standing by, a desire to see McCain elected over the alternatives.
You should read my diary about winners, and take some of the advice there. Particularly that this argument about John McCain is over and there is no sense dredging it up any longer. Instead we should be working for the future, especially in congress...and if you pay very close attention you'll notice that is exactly what most of the recommended diaries are about right now.
deemed by some to be anti-McCain, when, in reality, constructive conservative advice is pro-McCain every time he heeds same.
see amnesty defeat = leads to building the g-d fence
see backing off criticism of nc gop ad
more to come
We the People will hire McCain. We are his boss.
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You basically accept all the liberal premises and argue from there.
Pork barrel spending is not a Republican problem. It is an elected official problem and not likely to go away as long as districts desire their representatives to do it. Making it a national issue to be fixed will more than likely cause a bigger problem than what it is now (like some kind of pork barrel fairness doctrine).
Ending corruption. We could make a justice dept that would investigate allegations of corruption. What? Someone did that already? Okay, problem solved. Also, if voters suspect that their rep may have done something corrupt like driving their girlfriend off a bridge and not telling the cops till well after she drowned, then they can go ahead and vote them out of office. Corruption is NOT a Republican problem.
A successful end to Iraq? You already accept that this needs to end or that it is not successful enough now. I would like to extend McCain's "100 years" to "200 years or whenever the heck they ask us to leave!" There is no urgent need to pull out of Iraq. There never will be. Stop accepting their premise. This war has been among the most successful wars of all time. Donald Rumsfeld should be running for President, not getting kicked in the teeth with stupid "I supported the surge" type comments as if Rumsfeld's strategy was causing nothing but pain and misery. His stick it out strategy was what made the "surge" so dang successful!!!!! The only thing the Republican party should take blame for on Iraq is not countering the liberal blather with the truth on a daily basis so that we wouldn’t have so many of us like Gator accepting this premise.
While you're at it, why don't you just accept every premise the left throws at us, so we can try to bend over backwards to appease them.
Sure I agree that opposing McCain now is supporting the other guy, but at what point would you draw the line? When McCain says (hypothetical coming up, try not to let your head explode) he won't fight the war on terror? When McCain says he wants to raise taxes and spend more? When McCain says he will only appoint Ginsberg style justices? At what point? Hopefully you'll come to realize that you too have a cut-off and that you only differ from the "I won't vote for McCain" types by degrees. For myself, my cutoff is when McCain ceases to differ from the opposition on those three key issues. He is not that far away from completely losing me.
You want to stop losing elections? Then start running conservative campaigns like what the southern democrats are doing now. You want to make a national sweep? Run a national conservative campaign like we did in 94. This pork/corruption/Iraq mantra is crap.
"Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. I'm a whale biologist."
have agreed to support McCain even though we don't think of him as our FIRST (or fourth) preference for president.
WHY?
We've agreed to be on your side. Do you REALLY want us to get so angry with being beat over the head that we stay home? And WE are core party voters.
We are supporting him. He's doing his best to not accept our support, but we're still behind him. Are you trying to drive us away?
Socialism doesn't work. It looks nice on paper, but it's been tried and it's failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
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Gator,
I hate to say this but you sound like a hall monitor in junior high who is pissed because the basketball team stuck him in his locker.
And next time you want to court conservatives in order to persuade them to vote for McCain I suggest you leave out the insults such as this:
""SO WHAT?!" Says the average conservative on this site while they pound their keyboard. "McCain's an environmentalist and will be speaking to the evil La Raza! The bloody moderate must be stop from ruining my party!!""
This is your typical get in line and shut up comment that ends up exacerbating the original issue. Its not my party and its not your party...its our party. And we will disagree on policy and should be allowed to voice our opinions. We have a serious problem in our country when it come to both environmentalist and illegal immigration, and I am gonna say that again because I am sure I need to, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
The base is going to vote for the party, it's what we do, that's why we are called the BASE. If you can't stand to debate the issues regardless of the election than you need to rethink your political activism.
I personally can walk and chew gum at the same time, so I will continue to support the candidate while debating the core issues that define the party beyond this one election. Now if that is to hard for you to do then I suggest you just do pro McCain diaries and leave the other platform issues to those who seek debate rather than capitulation.
At least that my 2 cents.
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the party has been doing a good enough job of that since 2000. McCain has MANY problems, but he is no danger to the party, if anything, he is reflective of the party.
Why do so many here think the fight is between "Conservatives" and "Moderates"? We few, we special few know clearly that the true battle is between Goldwater Conservatives and Bush/Frist Big Gov Cons.
I said in 2006 that this party would be in the abyss until it came back to true conservatism, the libertarian conservatism of Reagan and Goldwater. The reason we have no rudder, the reason we have few leaders, is not because of "moderates" or social cons, but because we have mostly big government Cons (and I don't mean conservatives) in charge.
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Molon Labe!
So what exactly are you replying to?
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
let's just let my comment stand as a general opinion about the large issue that ails our party.
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Molon Labe!
I thought what I wrote was pretty straight forward, but I will try again since there seems to be some confusion(if only on my part).
Vote for the nominee...it is your duty as a Republican
Debate the policy issues that will be here long after any election...It is your duty as a conservative
Don't make fun of the people who you want to persuade to vote for nominee....it is your duty as a campaign agent
Now does that about sum up the position we all should be taking in every election cycle and beyond, cause this is how I feel about it.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
Goldwaterian conservatism has been abandoned by the GOP, and as a result we have a damaged brand. Goldwater conservatism wins every time its tried-hence the difference between Reagan's outgoing approval ratings and Bush's. Bush has got the moral Goldwater foreign policy stance, but none of his domestic policy. RonPaul!RonPaul!RonPaul! was closest to Goldwater domestically, but was clueless in the foreign policy department. So where do we go from here. We need a Goldwater movement like Ron Paul has followers running for office. We need a Goldwater Republican caucus like the Blue Dog Democrats have.
The trouble with our friend John McCain isn't that he's ignorant, but that he knows so much that isn't so.
to the others, read "Conscience of a Conservative", watch this clip http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ronaldreaganatimeforchoosing.ht...
and call me in the morning :)
btw, there is this lib con group http://www.rlc.org/
they are too small and oddly too inclusive imho.
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Molon Labe!
and I will fault him or anyone else for a law that is so blatantly so.
I'll still vote for him and pray that he wins.
SCOTUS may indeed be the final arbiter of what is Constitutional, but that is a right the Court assigned to itself -unconstitutionally, as a matter of fact, the other two branches being too gutless to object. I do not consent to it.
And in this case, not only is M-F spectacularly bad law, it is manifestlya violation of First Amendment freedom of speech. Freedom of speech was designed SPECIFICALLY to protect *political* free speech.
Unfair. Unbalanced. Unmedicated. -- IMAO
Very well-said.
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