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And you better figure this out before Moe sees your new blog.

You want your "contents" judged. OK. In a recent blog titled "Mitt Romney Says He's One of Us", you posted the following:

notta gonna vote for somebody who is part of that Jeffries cult. Remember...one of FBI's 10 most wanted for arranging child rape...ooops, I mean child marriages?

I replied as follows:

You are so far out of line Moe should take note. I am certainly no supporter (or friend for that matter) of LDS. I'm not wild about Romney. That said, the polygamist groups who claim to be "fundamentalist" LDS, have no connection with Romney. Your charge is outrageous, not able to be substantiated in any way and scurrilous.

A retraction and apology are warranted.

Trying to link Romney to fundamentalist LDS groups is like trying to link Jerry Falwell to Westboro Baptist Church because they both use the name "Baptist". Shame on you.

My comment was followed by one from Shadx:

I agree with mbecker. This comment is clearly over the line. I agree with mbecker.

This comment is clearly over the line for civil discussion.

You owe an apology to all the Mormons who read or post here for insulting them and calling their religion "that Jeffries cult."

(And you might also throw in an apology to all the Christians for posting such religiously bigoted nonsense while claiming to be one of them.)

Let me be really clear, neither Shadx or I are moderators or directors and neither of us (and I don't know him at all) have any affiliation with RS management or with RS other than as posters. The following guy is a moderator and what he says counts.

If you want to stick around, Dawn Dales ... by Moe Lane
...then you'll follow Shadx's 'suggestions'. Letter and spirit.

Moe

Respond to Moe. If you think he (and Shadx & I by extension) are being unfair, take it up with him via the "Contact Form", the button is at the top of the page. Until then, don't count on many people taking anything you say seriously enough to comment.
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We are merely uninvited guests and should behave with respect to the owners wishes or vacate if we can't.

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I'm not sure how what I said about Mormonism incited you to such an extent. I do have serious disagreements with their philosophies. What I have said is true. Warren Jeffs was a prominent leader of the Mormon Church. He arranged marriages with underage girls, some of them about the age of your junior high daughters. The Mormon Church protected him as a prominent leader. That's a severe lack of judgment by the Mormon organization, in my opinion.

I honestly don't know what Mitt Romney's response to this situation was. However, sharing allegiance to an organization that would protect someone such as Warren Jeffs is enough of a blemish on one's record and leads me to believe that Romney does not have the ability to make proper judgments.

I'm sorry that I did not stroke your disapproval of my post concerning Romney. You appear to be the one who has lacked judgment in that you could not look at this separate issue (that has nothing to do with Romney), and instead attack me. You're welcome to an opinion about my article, but, you must read it and form an opinion based on this article, not on your disappointment of me in that I did not measure up to your standards concerning a candidate with a lot of uphill battles concerning his beliefs and his appropriateness for the Presidency.

If you prefer to form an opinion, then please form an opinion about this article and the concepts that I've put forth, not about me and your already tainted judgments. My article is very respectful. Your response is not.

It appears that you feel you are "Moe's" conscience. You have placed your opinion of me as his/her standard to judge by. My words will speak for themselves. However, here's an opinion from another blog where I have placed this article.

Dawn
Well, I read through your posts and I don't really see anything offensive in my humble opinion. I can see where some would find offensive that you speak out against abortion and homosexuality. But, you are not the first and certainly won't be the last to do so.
I don't read it as hate speech. That's my take.
Apparently, these other posters who were offended wanted you to shut up about these subjects. I don't see where you condemned anyone or used abusive language. I'm a little dumbfounded that the article was banned.
Anyway, that's my take on it.
Pep

Dawn Dale is the founder of The Christian Heartbeat located at:
http://www.geocities.com/thechristianheartbeat/welcome.html

Dawn has degrees and experience in counseling and psychology. She is the author of "Dawn's early Light", and has created the

You are a guest here. The owners of this site, by their own generosity, allowed you to create an account and gave you space to post. The catch? You have to follow their rules. Don't like it? Tough.

There's a CONTACT US link. You've been told that if you don't like what a moderator says, go there to complain. Have you done that? If you haven't, you might want to do it, and fast.

Here's the deal: One of TPTB has asked you to do something. Do it, or leave. You will get very little respect and even less response to your posts and your thoughts until you respect the management and the rules around here.

When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail. -- Abraham Maslow

You make some good points. You have to understand, however, that I am just part of the general electorate and I don't give a hoot as to whether there are two Mormon churches or not. It's all cast in the same light in the minds of the public, you know, the unthinking public.

Again, this has nothing to do with my article, that has yet to be read by you. You've been effective at avoiding the issues that I bring up and attempting to belittle me as a person.

I wish you would look at your own posts. It's actually pretty comical. "You'd better do this or leave!"

I'm not interested in your rules. I'd much rather not be part of a group that can't see the forest for the trees. Your rules, again, mean nothing to me. I'm not bound by so-called "Rules", when rules get in the way of the real issues. fyi, this is a for profit site, is my understanding. Whether or not this is the case, the owners place this blog here for comment. It is not out of the "generosity" of their heart. They are promoted by free comment. And, I still live in a free speech America.

My life does not hinge on whether or not I'm "allowed" to express an opinion and to post an article here.

Romney is of no consequence to me. I owe him nothing. Big boys can handle themselves. If they can't, they'd better not be running for president. As well, his followers (Mormons) will be cast in a spotlight. They will all be called to defend their beliefs, in a very public way. This is just fact. It might be time to face that.

NEW RULE: Read the actual article before passing judgement or inserting any more replies.

Dawn Dale is the founder of The Christian Heartbeat located at:
http://www.geocities.com/thechristianheartbeat/welcome.html

Dawn has degrees and experience in counseling and psychology. She is the author of "Dawn's early Light".

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Ach, well.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.