Did Obama Just Lie
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Did Obama just lie about being around for controversial sermons by Rev. Wright? Back when this looked like it was just a minor issue that would probably blow over Obama said on his Huffington Post blog that:
"And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn." (March 14, 2008)
While today in his speech we heard him say that:
"Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church?"
Now, those seem like pretty contradictory statements. Either Rev. Wright ALWAYS preached about God and love or they were critical of the USA. He cannot have it both ways here.
I only hope that our media realizes this lie and reports it as it needs to be. Obama is just another typical politician and must be called on it like the rest. Hope and Change is nothing more than a well-devised campaign slogan (with about the same meaning as all other campaign slogans).
the truth and really lied on Friday. Who knows?
But we all know now that he is nothing more than a liar that will say whatever seems to be the most expedient.
And no, the media will not call him out. We will have to.
that maybe he was at sermons where, in addition to sometimes offensive things, the main point of the sermon was love, unity and Jesus?
Even Pat Robertson, when he said Katrina was God's punishment on homosexuals (arguably wrong minded and offensive) said so in the broader context of urging people to be more godlike.
...I think it's a stretch to just dismiss Obama as a liar. I also give him props b/c his speech did a great job of seizing the initiative and the moral high ground on an issue he didn't force to the front page.
he could have lived 20 more years he could have seized the initiative?
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And wrote the first Animal Rights law. He would probably get an award from PETA if he were alive today.
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Or did you just help yourself?
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
except, of course, the evil Republicans will now attack him. Kinda like you are doing now. Oh, you eeeevviiill Republicans!!!
"But Republicans are likely to seize on the passage as evidence that Obama was not completely in the dark about Wright’s inflammatory speeches."
Is that in the past at his church, he had heard normal, everyday, relatively noncontroversial Black conspiracy theories like "the police like to pull over black drivers and slap them around just for the hell of it."
But he had never heard the *really* nutso black conspiracy theories such as "America invented AIDS and gave it to the black community."
And he would never have stood for that kind of really far out there conspiracy theory, just the middle of the road stuff.
I'm glad you've noticed and now made public the planted blog in the Huffington post. Although it was difficult to get access to his ID, we feel it will be no more difficult getting the "football" from him in the future (should it prove necessary).
Erik
I know this is lower on the scale of magnitude, but it's a lie nonetheless. Last week, Rush played a clip of Obama saying that Rush had called for the roundup & deportation of all illegal immigrants. Truth is, Rush has never said any such thing. Rush as demanded an apology that of course he'll never get.
It's as if Obama gets stuff handed to him from his campaign staff and he just says whatever they tell him without question.
One thing about liars... you can't trust 'em.
oh wait, I'm sorry, he "understated" his relationship with Rezko...and has now ammended it. Right!
" Got to love the Lord for making things like that."
Morally Compromised
Lie, then tell the truth to come clean. Everything's peachy keen and the world is sunshiningly bright. Why can't we all just get along?
Kumbaya
In Barack Obama's America, occasional racial hate speech is suddenly not a serious problem anymore. I mean, honestly, that's his central point in that speech.
In my post about "Why the Obama speech matters: Rewriting "The Rules"?", I touch on this more.
The only problem is that he lied to us before about not hearing the bad stuff his preacher was saying but couldn't bring himself to tell the truth when confronted with the issue. Now he wants us to trust him to tell us the truth. If he didn't have the political courage to tell the truth on this issue, I can't trust him to lead this country.
familiy away from that pathological wright/"liberation" theology filth many, many years ago.
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He believes in Jeremiah Wright. There's no other justifiable reason that he would've remained in that particular Church.
Now he has to try to distance himself without upsetting the entire apple cart. Jeremiah Wright and the people of Trinity UCC know that poor Obama has to go along with the flow in order to win the election. And they're all okay with that.
The end justifies the means.
al-Taqiyya
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With the parishioners ? They all unwaveringly supported the man. Either they agreed with what he said or just didn't care.
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I don't think the MSM will be reporting this lie. I hear Chris Matthews is having another bout of man-love comparing Obama's speech to Lincoln and MLK.
A lot of patriotic Americans should go to Obama events and start singing "God Bless America"
I'd like to start the phrase Black Supremist church to refer to Rev. Wright's church. If White Americans are as evil as he says, clearly he is preaching a black supremacy, at least on moral grounds. Republicans always lose the rhetorical battle almost before it starts (i.e., warrantless suveilance instead of something like terrorist surveilance). Black Supremist church would properly equate this church with the hate filled rantings of white supremists.
Let's set the record straight right away on B.H.'s lying quotient. For 20 years he lacked the stones to challenge his mentor and preacherman but tells all that he can do so with the likes of Iran's I'manIdiot-Nejad and Cuban Castros. Really?
It's not like they never had meaningful conversations. Holy inuendo! The anti-White Wright Reverend would have conducted pre-marriage counseling and inventory of B.H. and Michelle Obama. They knew each other, period.
On SS' calling this a black supremacist church, sure, I'll buy into that for shorthand. It makes sense when cast against the pall of the church's awarding a prize to Louis Farakan. Not to mention all the (anti-)American heads of state the Reverend travelled to company with.
It's almost Easter and the chickens have come home to roost, leaving on big ol' fat monster egg for us all to go "Awe" over.
New Motto at Obama Headquarters: KEEP HYPE ALIVE!
Seriously, does anyone know if the RNC or Florida GOP could start a fundraising drive to pay for a new primary there? C'mon and laugh with me on the byline for that one:
Rich Whitey America pays poll tax (fee) for po' Dems to Vote.
To the point. Yes, Barack H. Obama lied. If it were my kid, we'd call it a fib. Only because they are all pre-K in age. For an Ivy-league grad with the gift of gab, unh uh... this was another of his lies.
I was partially expecting Barack H. to come out and tell the full blown political truth. He joined the Wright Reverend's black supremacist church due to it's large congregation's presence in the communities he pilgrimaged to Chicago to organize/build. And can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS is a "Community Organizer" exactly?
Back to my point, Barack joined the church out of necessity to lay claim to belonging to the same congregation the majority of the people in his communiti(es) belonged. Period.
What lead him to stay on there over 20 years is a question no one has asked him. Yes, I do buy the whole "everyones got pastors or priests that say things one doesn't agree with" schtick, however, choosing to stay, listen, and ponder over the words from the pulpit of a black supremacist preacher (a/k/a liberation theology for the black man per Rev. Wright) during the course of 20 years leaves much ado about Barack H.'s mindset, judgement and resoluteness.
He may still pull of the nomination, but he's already lost the general election. He'd be better now to shaddow box with Bill-ary and let her lead the ticket praying she can find a way to upset McCain. This way he can assuredly come back later on.
Ease on down,
ease on down,
ease on down the road.
thought I had proof read it before posting
The statements quoted are not contradictory. The first one does not say that there were not controversial political remarks in Rev. Wright's sermons.
Put it this way. Both statements by Obama would be true of a two sentence sermon that ran "We have an obligation to love God. I hate America". Assuming that Rev. Wright's sermons are usually longer than two sentences, it is entirely possible that both statements are true.
Of course, it makes the first statement a weaselly - dare I say Clintonesque? - evasion. But it doesn't make it a lie, per se. If this had been on oath, it wouldn't have been perjury.
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for what is a lie in the real non-courtroom world.
Obama obviously lied.
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Obama was evasive and (probably) deceitful. I see no evidence of a lie.
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semantics were a major reason I left the dem party. It's sad to see it employed in the gop to defend a leftist.
come now man
What is this about? Fear of getting wrongfully sued for defamation? Don't worry Q, you are the United (NYT v Sullivan) States, not the UK.
see public figure and actual malice definitions
Deceit but not a lie?
please don't insult my intelligence in or out of a courtroom
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particularly when accusing someone of dishonesty, if we are to avoid the same accusation being thrown at us. In this instance I see no evidence that Obama said something that was untrue. What he said might have led many people to assume something that was untrue. In which case we should condemn him for that, and not for something similar but not the same.
And, actually, I am in the UK. So are you - see the Don King case. But, crucially, my assets are in the UK, so Sullivan is only marginally relevant to me.
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“The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.”- Barack Obama
From Timeblog.com March 14th
“ Did I know him (Reverend Wright) to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes”
From Obama speech March 18th
that he has only made controversial statements once, then there is a contradiction here.
If he makes controversial statements more frequently than that, then it is entirely possible that Obama did not hear these statements but has heard him make other controversial statements.
Quentin Langley
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