You are nowhere NEAR done with Fred-headedness -- the preamble
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Tonight we lost big enough in South Carolina that hopes for a Fred Thompson nomination and presidency are dim (if even that good). Tonight I am very tired and cranky, so this is just a short shot across the bows, to let you apologists for other candidates know that you are not finished hearing from Fredheads. A better and longer diary will appear Monday or so.
Read on....
Fredheads are ardent backers of Fred Thompson for a few reasons, most prominently because he, and largely he alone, embraces core conservative principles, at his innermost core, for which we LIVE, FIGHT, and WOULD DIE. Fred had a large constituency at RedState precisely because of that, the blogoshere attracts the true believers of any cause. He was pimped prominently by the most purely conservative of the conservative public entities -- Rush, Human Events, Mark Levin. Squishy-cons of various flavors cast their support elsewhere. Yes, I'm talking about you, Hannity and National Review.
Another person will be the candidate, unless some miracle happens. That candidate will be a pale reflection of what America's conservatives long for and deserve.
That is a damned shame.
So over the campaign season, I, and I think a number of like-minded Fredheads, will continue to beat the drum of conservatism. Uncompromising conservatism. We will be holding each candidate's feet to the fire. We will be broadcasting, in great detail, the records, statements, and stands of the remaining viable candidates.
We will not take our ball and go home. In the final analysis, there will be a Republican candidate running against Hillary Clinton. It is imperative, almost beyond expressible words, that the Republican win. To that end, the Fredheads are going to be ruthless in separating the wheat from the chaff. None of the remaining candidates will be spared the winnowing fork.
We want the best conservative candidate remaining to win the nomination. We will spill blood as needed to make sure that happens. A bunch of you are not really core-to-core conservatives, and that is fine, as long as you know that. We like you in our tent, but we are not interested in choosing a Repubican nominee to your liking. But many others of you have sold your souls to electibility, to the 'horse-race', to the campaign flash and dash. If that is you, you'll hate me before it's all over. Or you'll change your heart.
That is all.
I sympathize with you. I, too, wanted a conservative purist a la George W. Bush.
We don't have that this year.
But it is a two-horse race now. The horses are Romney and McCain.
Pick the one that hasn't betrayed you.
I've been spirited off to bizarro world.
Increase spending + decrease taxes = not conservative
"I can say - not as a patriotic bromide...that the United States of America is the greatest, the noblest and...the only moral country in the history of the world. - Ayn Rand
At the hands of our own party we have been pushed aside in the name of "moderation". Right where the Left wants us.
Congratulations to the real winners this weekend Howard Dean, Terry McAuliffe, Hillary and Bill of course, Ted Kennedy (for standing by your man McCain), and to the rest of the liberal GOP candidates!
Good Luck.
Allen supported Fred, but what we needed was Fred supporting Allen, a much younger, vibrant version of Fred. Anyway, let's not whine, let's help conservatives and defeat liberals.
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Molon Labe!
Yes, the undeniable leftwing bias of the mainstream media played a big part with the whole macacca affair. If Allen were not a conservative Republican, then the incident would have passed w/o nearly as much hysteria.
But Allen made it hard for conservatives to defend him on other counts. During one debate, for example, Webb was asked about racial preferences, and to his credit he actually criticized the use of them based on the diversity rationale, and said that if non-black minorities were to be included, then so too should disadvantaged whites. When Allen was asked his thoughts on the matter, he COMPLETELY PASSED on the subject and instead chose to use the time to talk about something much less interesting. As someone who supported Allen, I was very disappointed that a Democrat was willing to criticize diversity-based racial preferences, while a conservative Republican would not.
And another example was the use by Allen's campaign of very leftist-style attacks on Webb's past comments about women in the military. That's not to say that some of Webb's comments were not worthy of comdemnation, but the over-the-top respone of the Allen compaign was ridiculous, and if one didn't know better one would have thought that Allen supported putting women in the frontline infantry units!
As to Thompson; yes, it sucks that the best top-tier candidate we have probably has no chance at the nomination.
but I will always believe many Republicans let him down. Many did not realize Allen was target number one by the left BECAUSE they feared his presidential run. And let me be clear, Allen was and is, MORE conservative than Fred EVER was and is way more conservative (in the good way) than any of our present candidates.
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Molon Labe!
I'm still very bitter about Allen's loss in Virginia. I was SURE I'd be pushing his Presidential campaign by this time, and I'd been looking forward to doing so for years before then. I would have packed my bags and gone anywhere to support him running for President.
Also, there were no "leftist style" attacks on Webb's comments about women in the military. I was in the military at the time he made those remarks, and I assure you, it was NOT just the Left that was pissed about it. I'm still disgusted about that filthy jerk being elected to the Senate. It's bad enough that Allen lost, but to HIM? Ugh!
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Beth
I'll not argue with your reaction to Webb's comments since you served, but my larger point I stand by, and that is that I almost got the impression from his campaign's futile (futile because such attacks require the cooperation of the mainstream media to stick, and they will never do so in a Republican vs Democrat matchup) attempts to use Webb's comments that Allen wanted to open up the frontline combat units to women, which most certainly is not a conservative position. I'm pretty sure that Allen does not hold that position, but the way his campaign used the Webb comments (to imply that Webb hates women) was indeed a very leftist tactic, as it is generally used to show how Republicans hates everyone who is not a heterosexual Christian white man.
But forget Webb's comments about women in the military. Can any Allen fan defend his absolute refusal to address racial preferences in that debate I mentioned? Why did he do that? Why could this solid conservative not even bring himself to take 10 seconds to condemn the absurd diversity-rationale for affirmative action, after his Democrat opponent had done so? Perhaps I focus too much on this one moment, but it sticks with me more than anything else from the Allen-Webb contest. Perhaps this is because conservative poster-boy Allen's refusal to engage on this issue was symbolic of the overall GOP's refusal to do so, and their betrayal of the base in this neglect. If so, then I guess I'm being unfair to Allen, but I will defend myself by saying that I too was an Allen fan. I too had high hopes for him from the moment he vanquished Chuck Robb in 2000.
And I am no fan of Webb. I fully expect him to abandon any conservative populist positions he may have once held, and I don't doubt for a second that he'd come to embrace diversity-inspired discrimination against poor-middle class whites if told to do so by the party. I truly wish that Allen would have pulled out the victory as he was a mostly good Senator, and it sucks that after this year we wil have yet another red state (albeit a blue-trending one) with two Democrat senators.
Fred brought a lot of it on himself too. Given the political realities this year, Fred could have done a lot of things different tactically that would have helped his chances.
And then there's the luck factor-- Fredheads in the cocoon want to reassure themselves that they're the only true conservatives, but the truth is that the rock-solid conservative vote got split this campaign. Romney pulled away some conservative votes by campaigning as a conservative, by getting in earlier, and by emphasizing his record as an executive. Huckabee got some conservative votes by being unpolitically correct and by tacking hard right on immigration and the Fair Tax. Giuliani has been running a pretty conservative campaign in many ways and on the social issues where he isn't conservative has been emphasizing his judicial appointments and so on. And exit polls show that in SC, many conservatives who didn't like McCain much voted for him anyway because of electability concerns--they thought he was better than Barack O'Hillary.
Yah, like Ronald Reagan! He vastly decreased spending.
Oh, wait...
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"FEAR THE 'STACH!!!"
The one who has betrayed us less? The truth is that if McCain did not look so terrible on illegal immigration he would be doing better amongst most of us. His disdain for evangelicals is forgivable to me because many of those who claim that mantle have shown that they can be bought at a cheap price and or that they are tied to evil (George W B in SC in 2000 rumoring that he had a black baby).
Senator McCain's endorsement page at his site would beg to differ.
Why must you tantalize us and make us wait till Monday? Leaving us wanting ... how Fred of you.
BAM!!! Oh ok, I'm picking at you cause that's what we do. Good post, I look forward to the unabridged.
absentee
You know I'm your brother, and you MUST be aware that I included a sentence aimed right at you. Brothers have the best fist-fights of all.
Hey, I'm hoping to just be a part of the conservative revolution this party so desperately needs. If we can't have Fred, I want to take the next best one and BEAT on him till he becomes like Fred.
Later bro!
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA....
OK, now I'm giddy. I need to go to bed.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
These so called Republicans will be easier to mold than any jello I have ever seen. So, if Fred can't pull it off. We'll just have to keep working hard at reminding everybody how conservative they really are, as usual.
“An appeaser is someone who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.” -Winston Churchill
Fredheads and their blind fanaticism than with Fred, as awful and wanting a candidate as he was.
look, i like and admire thompson, and i'm sorry he's not a better candidate (i mean that sincerely) because i'd love to see a very solid conservative take the presidency.
but many, many thompson backers have been wildly unrealistic for weeks in their appraisals of his chances.
i really do wish he were a much stronger candidate. but he's not the one to win the nomination or the general.
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What's this? You'd love to see a very solid conservative, but... But WHAT? You don't like the way he looks or talks? You don't like the fact that he got in later than the others? Obviously the GOP's attention span is very short. They can't remember McCain's amnesty plan let alone a few campaign stops last summer.
There may be more electrifying candidates out there for the GOP, but they're peddling crap and they're RINO's. Would you like Fred better had he been POW? Or if he had been the mayor of NYC on 9/11? Or what if he played guitar and preached? Would ANY of that change Fred's message? Do any of those things make those other guys a better candidate? Absolutely NOT!
I'm flat-out ticked at the media for having an agenda and then pushing it down our throats. I am ticked that we're surrounded by people who can't think for themselves. There's just a small enclave of us who think independently and really know what conservatism is all about and we got screwed tonight.
So tell me... Who is worthy of the nomination? The former POW? The mayor who was in the wrong place at the right time or are we electing a pastor or a president? Or, Mitt... the guy who decided to change his party affiliation in just enough time to run as a GOP candidate? I am telling you NONE of those people will beat Hillary because there's barely a difference in any of them.
And I am damned PO'd at people that have made fun of Fred because of his looks and his energy level. Those people obviously didn't recognize a GREAT CANDIDATE when they saw him. So for all of you to which that applies, we will get beat in November and I want you to wear it proudly.
What you wrote was no snit. THIS is a snit.
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Next time go for a true polemic, throw in a couple quotations from Cicero's speeches, and it'll be even better.
SOoooo, don't like McCain much? :)
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Caesar.
Antonius.
Antonius.
Caesar?
Caesar.
Let me have men around me who are fat,
Sleek-headed men, and men that sleep at night.
Cassius, over there, has a lean and hungry look;
He thinks too much; such men are dangerous.
Antonius.
Don't be afraid of him, Caesar; he's not dangerous.
He is a noble Roman, and your supporter.
Caesar.
I wish he were fatter! But I am not afraid of him.
Still, if I were the sort of person who became afraid,
I do not know the man I would avoid
As soon as that spare Cassius. He reads too much,
He is a great observer, and he looks
Quite through men's actions into their hearts. He does not enjoy plays
Like you do, Antony; he does not listen to music.
He seldom smiles, and when he does, he smiles in such a way
That it's like he made fun of himself and looked down on his spirit
Because something could make it smile.
Men like him are never able to enjoy life
While they see someone greater than themselves,
And for that reason they are very dangerous.
I am telling you what there is to be afraid of,
Not what I fear, for always I am Caesar.
Come to my right side, for this ear is deaf,
And tell me truthfully what you think of him.
Yep, all the same. Lean and hungry.
Beware the Ides of March...
Jeremiah 17:9.
the best candidate make. Believe me, I would have loved it if Fred Thompson had caught fire and coasted his way to the nomination. His dedication to federalism alone makes him a demi-god to me. And I agree with you that he was, by far, the best conservative in the race. But he clearly is (was - are we speaking past tense yet?) not the best candidate. There's myriad reason why that was the case, but I think at this point it doesn't do any of us any good to continue denying reality.
It boils down to this: if Fred couldn't win the Republican primary making his conservative pitch, how in the world would we expect him to win the general election? A candidate needs something more than simply being the best conservative. And yes, many of those other elements are at root superficial factors, but we simply can't deny they matter in elections.
The old line about supporting the most viable conservative candidate continues to ring true to me as a good guide to selecting the candidates we should support.
ideal candidate: Coolidge domestically and TR in foreign policy
but this combo won't occur more much, if ever...
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Then there is NO conservative in the race. You may refer to the others as Republicans because that is their party.
So how does the GOP beat Hillary in the fall? I would hate to think we could out-lib her. Someone better have some principles to stand on.
How could we expect him to win the General election? Just like I said, he's a principled conservative vs. a socialist. Seems like an easy choice to me.
don't you think it's going a little far to imply that the other candidates don't support ANY conservative policies? Again, I think we agree on more than you might initially presume. We just have different ideas about how to best achieve conservative ends.
For me, actually winning elections is one of the most important means towards that end.
They don't have any conservative tendencies now... But how long have they had those tendencies?
Rudy is NOT pro-life. I don't care what anyone says, that's pretty much a deal breaker for most conservatives. He's for sanctuary cities. Or at least he was... or is he still?
McCain tried to ram amnesty down our throats. He's had a change of heart? Doubt it. We'd have amnesty quicker than I could spit if he was POTUS with a democrat congress.
Huckabee... oh puh-leeze.
Romney - is he or is he not pro-life? Not sure how long his position will last.
You know darned good and well Fred is the most principled candidate.
But if we can pick these candidates apart and try to gloss over their major flaws, IMAGINE what fun the DIMS will have with it. It will be disgraceful and shameful.
Try to take the personal out of it... Write the pros and cons of each candidate on paper and then pick from the list which candidate you prefer. I know we all tend to pick a person and soon we begin to identify with that person. But we need to look at the principles.
of that new york times columnist who was shocked that reagan won, saying "everyone i know voted against him!"
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I read your reply last night and didn't see how it went along with what we were talking about and same this morning.
i was responding to your statement: "Just like I said, he's a principled conservative vs. a socialist. Seems like an easy choice to me."
It is an easy choice for you, and for me, but not for many Americans in the middle. A good candidate has to appeal both to the conservative base and to the middle of the country.
that's what I was trying to get at
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I don't believe the middle of our country is socialist. That's not what you're saying, is it? I think we have the socialist wing of the DEM party where I believe Hillary and Ob ama are, we have the far-right wing zealots that's for sure. But we also have conservatives who aren't willing to head toward liberalism and we have people who sit on the fence. The fence-sitters are growing in number!
Thanks for the clarification BTW.
It was not the man so much as it was his principles.
another anti-mccain lunatic.
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The Party is on its own as far as I am concerned. All of the talk here at RS leading up to the campaigns starting was about restoring what was lost in 06, finding Conservatives to take on the Lincoln Chaffee's of the world; and to think, we are closer to electing a Lincoln Chaffee than a Ronald Reagan.
I vote Conservative and their are none left with Fred out of the picture.
At least we "blind fanatics" know a Conservative when we see one. Cant say the same for yourself can you? Its almost funny reading a supporter of any of the others calling us Thompson supporters "blind" and "fanatics"....whats your excuse pal? You obviously couldnt see a Conservative if he was delivered by Bill Buckley and Ronaldus Magnus himself!
The Republicans will get what they deserve and hate at the same time; another President Clinton. Mitt's too much of a p***y to fight; he'll need to contact an attorney before he responds; Rudy, well he'll just keep siting 9/11 until people start blaming the terrorist for giving us Rudy; Huck- *See Carter presidency, grab your sweaters and turn down the thermostat; McCain....where to begin.
How funny will it be to see us nominate this years John F Kerry (McCain), running around saying that we should elect him because he was a POW and he knows War. He knows war and how to fight one? Really? Where did he get such knowledge and what is it? No one seems to ask him those questions. To hell with him! His disgraceful actions in the Senate are equal to him having not served at all! His "hero" status is out of respect for his suffering at the hands of Americas enemies 40 years ago and certainly not out of heart-felt emotion or anything that he has done since. Its sickening watching him get such a pass after cuddling up with all of the liberals and screwing us over for 7 years! Shame is all that the supporters of that old man should feel! Hope you enjoy two more Ginsbergs on the court. He will not run for reelection (he has said so) so he will get to F up America and the SCOTUS in 4 years and leave DC laughing at Republicans who couldnt see past his scars to disallow him to seek vengence on Bush for 2000. He just wants to win for his own personal vendetta and to reverse the court and laugh at Conservative then die and leave us in a mess. Thanks for your selfish looking out McCain.
His new slogan should be - 'McCain 08 - POW in Vietnam and MIA for my party in the Senate'
Pardon my lack of PC but I aint buying McCain!!
some "blind fanaticism," if you want to use so extreme a term, for several of the candidates. I'd sooner call it "extreme enthusiasm," but there is a fine line separating the two. I'd put the line at whether the fanaticism be for the candidate or for that for which the candidate stands.
Certainly, Ronald Reagan attracted his share of fanaticism to both his ideas and to himself several decades ago. Ross Perot summoned plenty of fanaticism after that. This time, I've seen such fanaticism associated with Fred Thompson, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, etc. With Thompson, it was more the ideas and the hope for those ideas than Thompson himself.
With Thompson, it was more the ideas and the hope for those ideas than Thompson himself.
She write those 'John Wayne Stud' diaries -- which by the way i LOVED -- itrytobenice, if you read this, i HEART you for those.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
I really loved those too.
How's the hangover? ;-)
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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Thanks, my friend. I stopped at 8, and my Zeigenbachs don't really give me a hangover.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
I wrote a blog this morning to the folks that are pimping for our support. I thought you might enjoy it. It didn't get much of a recommend and it's already fallen off the list, so I didn't know if you saw it or not.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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my recommend. Somewhere down the line I've learned that morning diaries on Saturday or Sunday suffer from a combination of (1) not enough readers on line, and (2) enough diarists on line, so that you don't got that good a shot at getting on the list.
The very same diary, tomorrow morning (Monday) would bump me off the top. But then I see I'm already off the top... I don't think the Directors like it when we re-post the same one, (I think that's a form of "spamming"). But you might consider another one with a similar theme, and put it up Monday. It's a thought that will resonate and kind of "buck up" the Fredheads to hold to our standards and not just jump on the back of any old bandwagon.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
That's a good idea. I'll see if I can rewrite it to be a little more clear too. Some people seemed to miss the point.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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if I support McCain?
Or did you mean to refer only to some supporters of McCain but not to all?
Either way, I think it's too harsh. You should be able to see that there are substantive conservative reasons to prefer McCain, even if you disagree with those reasons and even if you distrust the man.
In other words, your diary comes across as a snit. That's too bad, because there are better ways to comment on the end of Thompson's campaign.
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"substantive conservative reasons to prefer McCain" - even if you disagree with those reasons and even if you distrust him.
So what reasons am I left with? If you distrust him those conservative reasons are moot; and if you disagree with those reasons...well you have no reasons.
Just trying to follow...
conservative movement. Don't need no stinking reasons.
Formally known as Deagle... "Golf is a way of life..."
you may not trust him or agree that he is conservative in important ways, but you should be able to see that there are legitimate reasons why others might think so.
in other words, reasonable men can disagree.
i can look at mccain and see someone who will be robust in foreign policy, beef up our defense forces, nominate originalist judges, cut spending, and lock in the tax cuts. i see that some of his other positions are not in line with the conservative base (global warming, patient's bill of rights, etc.), and i wish they were different, but i consider them less important than the first issues i mentioned - and on those first issues, he's conservative.
hope that makes clear what i was getting at
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McCain has done or tried to do:
-torpedoed Conservative judges
-voted against tax cuts (twice)
-proposed business crippling legislation to stop 'global warming"
-tried to get amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens (but will build the 'g-damn wall')
-pass the 'let the lawyers sue everybody' act
-dismantle the 1st amendment to save us from campaign donations
-wants to close Gitmo and give the terorists lawyers here in the US
-is opposed to water boarding because it doesn't work, but will provide waivers if used for imminent threat situations.
Good on GWOT, WHEN IT WAS DONE HIS WAY.
Other than that, I'd have to agree that he's a fine conservative.
as the Ron Paul groupies.
There are reasonable anti-McCain folks, and then there are those who allow themselves to rant - and all the while take a smug attitude that is most unattractive.
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I won't sit back and watch McCainiacs deliver Valentines to someone who has been blatantly cheating on us for 8 years.
Right now it doesn't make any difference. Unless his campaign implodes before the nomination. He will be caught on tape before the general election in one of his fits of rage and a few of his crude "jokes". It will happen, but probably just before the general election.
All I know is hat it looks like I won't have to leave the house on election day. Looking forward to 2010.
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nesting/staggering got me again. The points raised by johnCV.
Jeremiah 17:9.
many have responded to these points again and again here - adamc c and charles bird above all.
i would defend mccain on at least some of these points if i thought jon was interested in doing more than just listing a series of crimes and condemning sen. mccain for them.
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"It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Professor Dumbledore
If you don't see it pretty soon, let me know here.
It must be 4am over there. Time for Niquil and a beer!
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
That is where we should start. I support Fred because of his principles, values, & stellar conserative record. 16% vote total does not diminish this. Fred came on strong in SC, gaining ground. Does this mean that he is done because he didn't finish second? I don't know. I do know that when the message got out & with his debate performance, a difference was made.
I guess it boils down to our personal belief in conservative principles as defined in US politics.
I appreciate your frustration. I also consider the timing of this post. I've been avoiding most of the blogs tonite, but I've noticed I'm being a little short with people myself.
What I wholeheartedly agree with is we must still stand for solid conservative principles and we will continually remind others when their candidate strays.
It's time for that beer.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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Fully admit that - how does one recommend a blog. Since I assume that is what helps a blog to become a main-page post. If I'm completely wrong please flail away - just got no clue.
You'll see a button that says "Recommend". Click it to Recommend. If you change your mind later (or commit the sin of recommending your own blog) just click it again to "Unrecommend".
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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It only had to be the brightly colored box that is really distinctive.
Though I blame the scotch I've been drinking since the returns started to come in.... ::sigh::
i've been drinking old grandad's bourbon myself (my favorite is blanton's, but that's for special occasions).
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i tried the 25-year once. it was extra-special deliciously nice.
but i think my favorite is lagavulin 18-year. you have to like the peaty taste, though.
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It was good enough to allow me to fall asleep after drinking some - except I woke up and realized our party is still stupid and FDT is probably going to drop out.
Makes me want to find it again.
temporary solution to every problem, as a wise man once said.
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OK, right column, just below the "recommended blogs", you should see a "recommend" button, with the list of names who have recommended. Clicking it gives it "points", if you will, toward making it up the Recommended list. It only gets front-paged (in the center column) if one of the Contributors decides to promote it.
This one is not really "front-page" material. It's just a reminder by a Fredhead (with some amens from others) that while our guy is gone, the core principles we have that resonated with Fred are still here, and will continue to be articulated.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
witnessed the end of any chance for the conservative movement to wield any significant power for the first time since 1980, beginning January 20, 2009.
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I'll be reminding the nominee often what conservative principles are...whether he wants to hear it or not.
Hell hath no fury like a conservative scorned.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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Sadly if you watched Hannity and Colmes (specifically McCain on it) he doesn't care how loudly you remind him. He knows better - he's the Maverick! That's all that matters - not what you think.
So if its him I give up no way to reach him - he's still as stubborn and cantankerous as ever.
Never underestimate a bunch of determined conservatives. Here's one that won't turn the heat down on the fire under him if he gets the nod.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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after all, IF mccain becomes the nominee (which he may not), he could still appoint the next justice or two who ends up creating that beautiful originalist majority we've been waiting for for about, oh well, about 70 years now...
i know that there are some doubts about whether mccain would pick the right guys, but on the other hand, if he is the nominee, he has a decent chance to get to the office and be the one who picks the justices...
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'cause each time i make a valid point you change the subject.
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What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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There's no guarantee that Admiral "OK I'll build your GD fence" won't pick judges based on whether they'll agree that his CFR thing is not a gross violation of First Amendment protected political free speech.
His track record suggests quite a disdain for the actual text and meaning of the Constitution. So we hope, quiveringly, that he'll pick justices who disagree with him.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
And if Senate Democrats treat President McCain's judges the same way they've treated President Bush's?
Will he fight for conservative judges, or give up and appoint judges more to the liking of Kennedy and Schumer?
Given his past actions, I'd bet on the latter.
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and ask him what he should do.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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Not sure I can at this point.
Still researching...
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instead of Kennedy.
I just don't have much confidence in McCain on the judges issue. That may change with more research. I know I only have part of the story, and there's conflicting information I have to sort out.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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I said (1) a bunch of you are not [core] conservatives. (2) A bunch more have sold their souls to electability [and so on].
Those two categories are SEPCIFICALLY not all-inclusive. I could have added a third category [such as "Still others of you wear pink underpants"] without changing the grammatical construction. I did that intentionally, because I'm well aware that alot of people here think their guy is a perfectly fine specimen of conservate ideals.
So if you see yourself in one of those 2 categories, that's really up to you. As for this being a "snit", maybe so. So what? Your guy is gonna get an anal exam, and that's that.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
Dang if I didn't do the 'Reply to this' error!
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
i look forward to discussing more with you another time
by the way, i like your sig
sorry your guy didn't do so well. as i made clear in my comment above, i also wish he'd done better. in fact, i wish he'd done great. but he wasn't the man for it. there will be others. jindal and cantor are rising, for instance, and there are a number of others as well...
now go wipe that snit off your face.
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I'm trying to keep it wiped off my face.... hey, we'll have fun, and I like your tag as well.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
heh
and shouldn't you be drinking bourbon? beer is for college kids...
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and if bourbon is called Jack Daniels, then we got bourbon. Otherwise it's BEER, BEER, BEER. Texas men are basically adolescents with drivers licenses anyway.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
move to Dallas some day. No income taxes, conservative, no winter, inexpensive property (compared to NYC and DC), a fine symphony and university, and some good religious communities....
we'll see
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What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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As we say here in Florida, the best beer is the beer that is in my glass (for the moment, anyways).
-- A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Anyone care to change sides?
-- Saving baby whales and baby trees, but killing baby humans. Huh?
-- imwithfred --
good. Plus, he has promised in tv ads to build the fence. open minded devine
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Mind already opening enough to be pointing out McCain's positives, GC? I am not able to move that quickly!
does appeal to patriotism. He ran ads all week promising to build the fence. He proposes a new tax cut. He won, albeit he got only 33%, less than when he lost 42% to Bush's 58% in 2000.
I hope Fred stays in, but if he doesn't, I will have to choose another, and they all have positives and negatives. Its a good sign that McCain is moving right. He spent much of last year mending fences at least on a personal level with evangelicals, esp in SC.
I'll probably end up with Mitt, as I leaned to him for a year before Fred.
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much later, he'd have had no chance...
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try and understand how McCain won. SC is conservative, but given the crowded weak field and Fred's late entry, voters did have some things to latch on to.
now, another Michelob Ultra
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I guess it's an acquired taste. Maybe if I were a rooster instead of a stallion... :)
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but, given your hoofs, I'm even more impressed with the Bible distributions to Hilton room side table drawers!
Chicken also likes Red Bull and Vodka
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aren't you grateful i don't use the revised standard version?
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surprise me in the least
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Good post. You and your like are a credit to Fred. Fredheads are representative of the base of our party and for anyone to think it is a good idea to put them down, call them names, insult their intelligence, etc. is foolish.
I should clarify that I think the usual banter between various supporters of different candidates is usually very appropriate but kicking people when they are down like this is disgraceful.
Good luck as you go forward. I hope you find another candidate you can support. I also hope the best for Fred - unless he endorses McCain (TIC).
"I guess the lesson learned here is that it doesn't matter where everyone is from as long as we're all the same religion." - Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
Feeling way too disenfranchised and partyless at the moment to join you in your crusade. Maybe in a few days or weeks I'll feel like fighting for conservatism again, but I can't currently get over feeling overwhelmingly demoralized and discouraged.
When Democrat Zell Miller gave his speech at the 2000(?) Republican Convention, I felt so sorry for him when he talked about how his "party left him," and he felt like he had no home, politically speaking. As his party slid inexorably leftward, so far that he couldn't follow them anymore, he ended up endorsing the candidate for the other party. But he was clearly despondent that there are so few classical liberals left anywhere. Well, I finally understand how he felt. I'm watching my party slide to the left. I'm watching my party leave me. I'm feeling homeless and rudderless. Politics is my passion, and I now feel like there are so few left to represent me, and the party I used to identify with is veering wildly off-course.
I pray the conservative movement will rise again, but my spirits are low and my hopes are six feet under tonight. By the time I vote in Texas--if I even bother to vote this time--it will, as always, be a choice between two weak or unacceptable candidates, and I'll have to choose which one I think is less bad than the other. I have only once in my lifetime gotten to vote for the guy I really wanted as POTUS: Ronald Reagan. This primary system sucks.
I think that's what people who have been ragging on us Fred supporters have missed. As far as we're concerned this isn't just about one candidate - our party is going away.
That explains the sadness.
But remember- there are seemingly fewer and fewer conservatives. (so it seems on a night like tonight).
This just makes your share of the burden all the greater. You are an essential part of the movement. Conservatism needs you!
When you get refreshed, rejuvenated, and saucy again, I'll be in need of a relief pitcher.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
As a party we just haven't hit the bottom yet and maybe we are destined to. When the conservative brand is so sullied and compromised that we lose the mantle of fiscal responsibility and increase the size of the federal government we frankly deserve to lose.
Let me see...who exactly is leading the conservative movement anyway? Nobody that's right.
In the long run maybe we need that Jimmy Carter to get ourselves a Reagan again.
who, after all, was a moderate Southern Democrat, which would make him close to mainstream in the Republican Party today and persona non grata in the Democrat Party. You can, and I do, fault his leadership and decision making, but on policy he certainly was no lefty, though he had lots around him.
Now you get to deal with the genuine hard Left; the ones so committed that they've essentially been under cover since the 'Sixties. They've cut their hair, learned to wear suits, put away their little Red Books, but they're still the same people they were.
Enjoy!
In Vino Veritas
We may not start rising back up until 2009, but we've hit the bottom. The GOP has betrayed itself as much as it's going to. We are going to move back toward the principles of Reagan and Gingrich - perhaps falteringly, but steadily.
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What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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with early primaries seem to have way too much say in how badly we and the rest of the world get screwed.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
we could spread out the super tuesday states among the early primaries and make sure that each primary election includes at least three or four states....
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How do we start a serious movement to change the primary system? Who, if anyone, has the authority to force all the states to have their primaries on the same day, so that no-one is disenfranchised anymore? The RNC? To whom do we write? To whom do we send petitions? Surely, after this ridiculous debacle of leapfrogging primary dates and slashed delegate counts, the powers that be would be open to overhauling the system at long last. I'm confident that if states like Texas had had a chance to choose from among ALL the candidates, without the undue influence of early-voting states (particularly ones that allow Democrats and independents to choose OUR candidate), we'd get a far stronger and more conservative candidate in the end.
Just because they rejected Fred doesn't mean they are pissants.
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No assurances that the non-pissant states would have improved on the record of the pissants in giving us White House winners for 5 of last 7 and 7 of last 9 yrs, respectively.
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EPU
Well done and I agree with your sentiments, but I am unsure of how to proceed from here. I guess Romney is the only palettable alternative (at least on his last set of stated positions).
I suppose the process you will embark on is to find the best of the worst, the top of the bottom or the cream of the crap - conservative-wise that is.
For me, that analysis has to begin with the candidate's allegiance and reverence for the US Constitution. Mccain is a write-off from the start. Huckabee - the same. Rudy would shred the 2A. As I said, where to from here?
Every one of the candidates has something to recommned them for somebody. That's fine. What is hugely pissing me off is thier supporters constantly refering to them as 'Conservative'. They are not conservatives by any definition of the word! I wish they would just own up to the fact that they support a moderate or a right-of-center senator (or governor etc.), not a conservative. You are either a Conservative or not, you don't get to re-define the term for personal convenience.
cheese-brain
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I try explain a position where your candidate (whom you have every right to support and I have a personal admiration for) is in no way shape or form a Conservative, mis-spell a word at 0200 and you call me a 'cheese-head'. Good comeback. You really put up a good defense for his positions. You reflect well on him.
If you're familiar with the phrase, visualize this, "read between the lines".
glad you liked it
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Thanks for representing conservative values and party unity and loyalty. Though supporting Romney I was really hoping for a Thompson/Romney ticket. Now maybe Romney/Thompson? Now I implore Fred's supporters to continue to pull for Party Unity by backing Romney. We cannot beat the Dems by becoming the dems and if we do what is the point. If democratic ideals are going to destroy this country for four years at least the democrats will get the blame and we can sweep in in 2012 to save the country from the brink of disaster. My biggest concern is McCain and the Global Warming Issue. This issue will destroy the economy of the arogant belief that we could change the temperature 1 degree either way if we wanted too. McCain will probabbly sign Koyoto sp? Treaty thereby cripiling our economy which he has no idea how it works anyways. I would hope that Fred backs Romney as the candidate closest to his positions rather than his long time senate friend. Since I believe Fred wants to do what is best for this country I think this is what he will do.
Here is to hoping.
Romney/Thompson 08
huge, and I would follow!
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Caption: Fredheads ponder their next move.
Maybe all yee Fredheads should vote for Hillary in General. We don't need you.
Whomever said that Fredheads may be more crazier than Ron Paul supporters may be right!
You beclown yourself with every word you type here. Please be gone.
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You aint still PO-ed at me, right? I tried to contact you to apologise before but you aren't receiving emails.
"Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. I'm a whale biologist."
argued but not about what. I am still mad at the guy who dissed my Cowboys but that is about it :)
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Molon Labe!
Tsk. You started getting cred back by finally ceasing your torching of Fred; now you are back to torching, only it's his supporters. That's regression, not progress.
absentee
For the cred comment. However for what Fredheads put me threw last week this is minor stuff. And in my opinion well deserved. Me and others like young conservative here in PA questioned Thompson's viability as a candidate. He proved us right and that's all the cred I need. :)
But the fact that Fred came in third in SC does not translate that it was not worthwhile for Fred to run and for Fred's supporters to support him before SC and now.
There are bigger issues at play than whether a youngun from PA got a prediction right.
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25% of the Vote is already in by absentee ballot here in Florida.
Florida will be the "stopper" of the McCain train....because it is the first state where Republicans only vote.....no I votes to spoil the party.
SC has gained over half a million new residents from the NE since 2000.....these liberal NE types (yes even R's are liberal in NE) put John McCain over the top ....but just barely.
Stay tuned.
It seems to me that Florida is well known for getting a truckload of retirees from the very place you say threw South Carolina for McCain.
Now that Giuliani has faded, why won't they go for McCain, under your theory?
500,000 new residents from the NORTHEAST.
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He was creamed in South Carolina. That was his best hope and he did horribly. The party is no longer buying what he is selling.
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would not be so gleeful when the *only* small-government deregulationist conservative was bumped out of the race in favor of a bunch of centrist weenies.
Are you actually a libertarian?
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
Make fun all you want to, but Fred is dead on when he said this is about "the heart and soul of the Republican Party" and when I look into that soul, I personally am scared for what I see.
IMO, the worst thing, yes even worse than a rino, is a democrap. Should Fred decide to drop out, I think all FredHeads and true Conservatives should not say they will sit out in November, but yet embrace this post and push everyone to the right. to our party's roots. Ask What Would Reagan Do? WWRD. Reagan would not cry and sit this one oue, but he would forge ahead and try to create a movement back to our roots, even in the midst of current unpleasantness.
I will not sit this one out without Fred (should that happen) because our Repiblic cannot afford even 4 years of Socialist rule, especially with the war, (2) Supreme Court Justices, taxes, healthcare etc.
agree probably 90 percent of the time. However, you said:
1) "We want the best conservative candidate remaining to win the nomination. We will spill blood as needed to make sure that happens"
2) "he alone, embraces core conservative principles, at his innermost core, for which we LIVE, FIGHT, and WOULD DIE"
I realize you were fired up last night, or maybe you actually stand by these comments. I know I would never spill blood for conservatism or for a presidential candidate. I would spill blood for my country and for the Constitution, but not for a political party or theory of government.
One thing I think people will need to come to understand, is the fact that we do not always have a pure conservative, or even a movement leader as the cheif executive. Remember, the Contract With America happened with Slick Willie as president. The thing is GWB, GHWB, Ford, Nixon, and Eisenhower were not movement conservative either. We can live with a president that is not ideologically pure, we have done so many times.
What we need to do is promote true conservatives, support them and prepare them. What we need to do is defeat a liberalism that has become much more malignant than anything our forefathers faced. And lastly, we need to not look to government or politicians to determine our lives and happiness, we need to that on our own.
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What we can live with is hardly the point. I doubt that most of us would die if a Democrat were elected.
Politics is either idealistic or utilitarian. Conservatives who are afraid of losing become utilitarian and do "what ever [they think] it takes" to stay in power. Conservatives who are unafraid continue to stand for their ideals, even if the MSM says it's going to cost them the election.
When... WHEN are we going to stop believing the excrement coming from the legacy media?
Real conservatism works every time it is tried.
Yes, can you believe it? Top diary. But as we both know, one can write a diary consisting of "Fred rocks! blah blah..."[till the 25 word min] and get top diary, LOL!
OK, before I clarify, I have to point out the irony -- a guy whose tagline is Molon Labe [roughly translated "over my dead body"] is looking askance at the guy who is using terms like "spill blood" and "live, fight, and would die". Somewhat ironic, Doc?
OK, I want to clarify, because I pretty much got it in the context I want it, even after a night's rest [well, not that much rest...].
By "spill blood", I mean proverbially, with the diarist's pen. Give candidates the a$$-reamings when and where called for.
The "live, fight, and would die", well, that's a little murkier. Our Founding Fathers DID live, fight, and die for the principles espoused in the Constitution and the Declaration. I'm just trying to remind how important those things are, and how rapidly America is losing sight of it. Not a call to *actual* arms against our own government, liberals, or anybody else.
But to follow, I have a nephew in Iraq. I can tell you that what he is fighting for is not a nanny state, not an open-borders one-world experiment, and not a place where political free speech is squelched by smarmy legislators. It's important to me that we FIX IT.
Anyway, my friend, that's kind of the story behind the story.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
was the only one who thought some of the wording was harsh. Anwyay, you are right about my sig, there are things I would fight and die for, basically it boils down to freedom, I know you agree. I guess all I am saying is we can move beyond Fred's loss. We may not get a Reagan or Goldwater, but we can always fight for freedom and conservatism. I think we must hold these candidates feet to the fire, and we must support true conservatives in Congress and the Judicial Branch.
Pass my best wishes to your Nephew, he is doing God's work and we are grateful.
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Molon Labe!
If you would be so kind as to enlighten me as to who is the conservative if Thompson folds his tent? McCain believes in amnesty and treating terrorists in our custody as if they were movie stars, Romney is too new to the conservative cause to be trusted with my vote just yet, Huckabee has a deep seeded need to give all the bad guys a second chance, Paul can't appeal to enough voters to stand a chance, and Rudy is running for the office in name only. And I don't believe for a second that any one of these guys will actually CLOSE THE BORDER. So who do you suggest? I will vote for the Republican when the time comes, but it will be another year of holding my nose while I vote. For a moment there I was foolish enough to think a man of character, ethics, high principals, and common sense might have a chance. I guess I had a momentary brain freeze.... Oh well, there's always 2012.
I just think at this point it is vital the hard left does not get into power. If we don't have a great conservative president, then let's try to get great conservatives in local offices, state offices, and Congress. Right now I am supporting Rudy but he could be the next one down. I could live with McCain or Mitt, because, well, the alternative isn't so appealing.
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so I'm expecting a big group hug from Mitt supporters.
I'll still vote for any Republican not named Ron Paul in the general.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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Brad Smith
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I think maybe you missed this one.
What we need in a leader is to tell us not what we want to hear, but what we need to hear.
Fred Thompson 2008
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SC was a good thing .Fred doubled his poll numbers and Huckabees fell.McCain got the left votes and the vets.Valuable time on air was lost to smear tactics.Sorry to interupt your Subday afternoon slap fest or bender,but the Fredheads are busy circling the wagons.
the word used to describe what was happening in SC was SURGE and that is what happened.Cry in your beer fellas or get up off your butts and help.Time to put up or shut up.The red truck campaign has worked everytime and will again if those who helped fill in the first place STAND STRONG.If this pary means anything to any of you then its survival depends on making a stand NOT a new party.New party are you kidding me? You are following the path like little sheep to the MSM fold.QUITTERS .Go Fred!
South Carolina never picked a GOP winner that beat a Clinton. It always picks winners with names of Reagan and Bush. None of those were here this year. These stats are pretty much useless, given the changes in population over the years, and the changes in dates for the primaries.
As a Floridian, I see that the Democrats, giving up all the delegates in states that went early, (vs. half delegates for GOP) really gives them an edge in those states, since its members have no reason not to register as an R and vote for most liberal GOP candidate (Michigan, Florida, others?).
I am still waiting for next Tuesday, the first REAL GOP primary (no donkeys or undecideds allowed).
-- A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Anyone care to change sides?
-- Saving baby whales and baby trees, but killing baby humans. Huh?
-- imwithfred --
I heard that Reagan lost 11 State Primaries before going on to victory? Just a thought..
They are keeping a list of people who want him to stay in the race.
Make a call to the HQ in support of Senator Thompson.
1-571-730-1000
Thank you for running Fred. Now go home and take care of your Mother. Go star in another movie and enjoy your family the next few years. We appreciate you, but it is time to bow out and endorse your buddy McCain. If you do it now we don't have to watch your campaign implode next week. Thanks again and God bless you.
If anything, his campaign imploded when he had that mix-up in Florida, where a bunch of activists were dying to hear from him, but he was told he was expected only to give a quick hello. His popularity never recovered from that.
From then on, he's just held onto a big hunk of conservatives, and I don't see him losing them. FDT's campaign won't implode now, it'll just chug along and gain no ground, I think.
are asking the question, what do we do now? Those in Florida especially need to answer that question quickly. I see many saying they are moving on to another candidate. That is what I meant by implode. I think it is happening and every minute Fred waits it erodes more. Part of his problem from the beginning is reacting to slowly. He is doing it again.
is just fine in his book.
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Now when the attendant of the man of God had risen early and gone out, behold, an army with horses and chariots was circling the city. And his servant said to him, "Alas, my master! What shall we do?" So he answered, "Do not fear, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them." Then Elisha prayed and said, "O LORD, I pray, open his eyes that he may see." And the LORD opened the servant's eyes, and he saw; and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
Okay folks -- being a FredHead has very little to do with Fred Thompson -- and everything to do with being a conservative.
I am a FredHead because I am a conservative. I believe in my heart in those conservative principles and I support Fred Thompson because he is the only true conservative in the race.
Now others are pretending to be conservatives -- but they are not.
So I will forever be a FREDHEAD -- because I also have a FREDHEART -- a conservative head and a conservative heart -- and belief in those principles does not vary with candidate, campaign, or the size of the crowd around me.
It's over.
Conservatives will not have a real place at the table in 2008.
At this point, we have to hope some sense will get knocked into the party by 2012.
Otherwise, if the GOP sees electoral success in 2008 running a non-conservative, conservatives will never be allowed near the table again.
Make no mistake: This is a dark, dark day if you are a true three-leg conservative.
It's all but over.