Fred Thompson, the Mighty Bambino, just keeps hitting them out of the park
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h/t to my dear friend and big-time John McCain supporter Vicki Hampton for showing me this video, knowing I was a proud and never-repentant Fredhead.
Check out the latest video - a campaign video narrated by Fred Thompson and called 'Freedom'. It appears to be sponsored by the NRSC / NRCC, and it's about DARN TIME those committees started at least giving a minimal amount of lip service to conservatism. Now if we could only get them to stop supporting RINOS like Chafee against clearly superior primary opponents. Ah, baby steps I guess.
Fred narrates, but it features some great words from Reagan, and recent snippets from Johnnie Mac. And I swear, if the guy believes what he is saying in this clip, he may come to eventually govern in parallel with conservative principles. It irritates me deeply that we've selected for ourselves a guy so fundamentally clueless on core conservative principles, whose instincts are all wrong, who is a crusader when what we need is a visionary.
But if Fred can continue to infect him, subliminally whispering conservative principles in his ear, if he can channel that guy's rage, curb his worst impulses, and get him to govern and make decisions that DO parallel conservatism - then America truly can be headed back to greatness, 4 years ahead of schedule. I am hopeful.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy this like I did.
Unfortunately there's only one Fred Thompson. My hope is that he ends up as Chief of Staff, and daily speaks conservative core principles into McCain's ears.
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Would a McCain/Fred ticket really be that bad?
The conventional argument against it is the age factor.
But I really don't know at what point our society started seeing age and wisdom diverge. How much of a loss would having 2 old men on the ticket actually translate to? In the midst of naive mistake after mistake from Obama, it'd be nice to see someone as steadfast as Fred in the spotlight on our side.
I suppose I still get a little too exited when I think about having someone like Fred in charge.
And with Fred on the ticket, all this talk of certain southern states swinging would become nearly a nonfactor I think.
and primarily as a matter of electability - the Grumpuy Old Men ticket against the Obamessiah™.
But if Macho Bambi continues to implode, it may get so bad that McCain could pick anybody at all as a VP and still win going away. Those possibilities intrigue me:
McCain/ham sandwich
McCain/Bob Byrd
McCain/Lindsay Graham
McCain/Ted Stevens
McCain/William Jefferson(!)
McCain/Britney Spears
McCain/Bill Belechik
McCain/Allan Iverson
I'm trying to think of the most revolting people I can, how am I doing?
And if that turns out to be the case, then yes, I think Fred would be a VP maybe even better than Dick Cheney, were that possible. But right now I don't see it playing out that well.
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What did a ham sandwich ever do to you to warrant inclusion on such an august list?
"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
While my unswerving devotion is to the roast beef sandwich, it's true that the ham sandwich has unjustifiably become a proverb for 'empty shirt'. They've done the same thing with chopped beef - and I love chopped beef. As in,
"What am I, choppped beef?" or
"That Salma Hayek, she's not exactly chopped beef."
Chipped beef on toast is great too. :-)
"What did a ham sandwich ever do to you to warrant inclusion on such an august list?"
Isn't he the one that gets routinely indicted by grand juries everywhere?
You left out:
McCain/Mike Tyson
McCain/Pelosi
McCain/a goat.
Don't underestimate the goat. Sandy Burger hid documents in his pants. A goat would eat them.
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Dependence is Slavery.
I dunno. I think the "Grump Old Men" descriptor, while not completely off the mark for a McCain/Thompson ticket, misses the strength of that combo -- security. In a world at war, with Iran heating up, and energy issues so tenuous here at home, an election between the "security ticket" and the "glam ticket" would go in favor of security. There are lots of people who may like Obama and think he's real swell and talks pretty and all that fluff, but at the end of the day -- especially as his implosion continues and becomes harder to hide -- people just won't trust him to be the man they want him to be. Obama may get the Oprah Moms all excited and he may be the "first woman president" (yech!) but how many of those women want one of their Oprah-friends as president? McCain/Thompson would benefit from all those people who, in spite of kind of liking Obama as that neat, friendly guy who says nice things and dresses well and seems to make you feel good, just don't see him as the guy to rely on when there is a noise downstairs at 3AM... McCain/Thompson would promptly grab the .45 and head down those stairs. When the votes are cast, that last gut sense means something, especially when the two options present such opposing stimuli.
"Do not fear, only believe." (Mark 5:36)
If you are going to dream, might as well make it a real fantasy zero-chance-of-happening ticket.
I'm waiting for McCain/Sanford and/or Marsha Blackburn as VP.
McCain/ham sandwich, as long as I can get it with mayo....
"The day you think you know it all is the day your trouble starts."
Ted Stevens does not belong up there with those true horrors of politicians. He is a good man who has done a great deal of good for Alaska and the USA.
The only thing you can really hold against him is his porking, and if you knew anything about what makes Alaska work and keeps that oil pumping up there, you'd understand that pork.
"Always be honest with yourself. Even if you are honest with no one else."
--me
Then there's sticking your whole head in the trough.
Ted Stevens chains the trough to his bumper and drives off with it.
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I cant say I feel all that bad about the way "Senator Dave Cuddy (R-AK)" sounds. This whole problem with "Bob Byrd of the West" is a problem that the AK Repubs should have taken care of.
Don't shoot the messenger.
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It really is a different world in Alaska. Spend some time there and see what Stevens has wrought...
"Always be honest with yourself. Even if you are honest with no one else."
--me
"Where has this message of hope and optimism been for the last several years?" (and, dear God, I miss Ronald Reagan; time has caused a dimming of the memory of how infectious his sincerity and optimism was)
I spent the entire video with waves of goose bumps (Johnny Mac even raised a few for me...didn't see that one coming :-)
If Republicans would please, please just learn that the message of freedom and hope and aspirations always triumphs over the gloom and doom of the liberals, and have the testicular fortitude to care more about those they represent than those in the media who will never love or respect them.....Sigh!
I do pray that this video is one in an upcoming series of events that demonstrates that at the very upper reaches of the GOP, the message the grassroots has been sending the last few years is finally getting through.
Thanks for posting this EPU (and...Fred rocks too; but that goes without saying to Fredheads :-)
"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
that Johnny Mac was saying some good stuff on this video. It's a bit unexpected, ain't it? And yes, DANG I miss Reagan.
My distinct impression from my feelers into the Fred camp is that yes, there is to be a whole series of these, each with a tight theme (this one being 'Freedom').
Looking forward to that, although I'm curious as to what targets they are shooting at with these YouTube videos. The cynical part of me wonders if the target is conservative blogdom (i.e., you, me, RedState, and fellow travelers) in an effort to get people like us thinking and speaking positively of JM.
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"part of me wonders if the target is conservative blogdom (i.e., you, me, RedState, and fellow travelers) in an effort to get people like us thinking and speaking positively of JM."
It's about bloody time...youtube is a great way to get the message out
'pope of man church sits
in throne made of asbestos
no where else to go'
"It's the Haiku stupid"
If Republicans would please, please just learn that the message of freedom and hope and aspirations always triumphs over the gloom and doom of the liberals, and have the testicular fortitude to care more about those they represent than those in the media ...
I've been saying precisely this for as long as I've been blogging! Thanks for saying it as well and for saying it quite well!!
Smaller Government! Lower Taxes! Stronger Defense! More Liberty!
conservative:
"The cynical part of me wonders if the target is conservative blogdom (i.e., you, me, RedState, and fellow travelers) in an effort to get people like us thinking and speaking positively of JM"
Cynicism at its finest (and, yeah, the same thought flashed through my cnynical conservative mind after all the goosebumps subsided :-)
Trying to maintain some semblance of positive outlook here, there was a guy this morning on the McCain ad exposing Obama's hypocrisy on taxpayer financing diary (I want to say "Doug in FL") who had some great points about how to get these YouTube gigs out into the public consciousness (and, apparently, the technical expertise to do it). Need to get those types of people to get this to critical mass and get it out to the 'masses' (even though it would appear that it was designed to be a fundraising schtick).
"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
It needs an [uh-oh] button that you can push, within 3 seconds of hitting [Post comment], as you realize you just did a bad thing, you can intercept it.
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Oh man, to be alive when Reagan was President. It sends a chill down my spine to hear Fred talking in the video, although when McCain speaks on the war and fighting it does admittedly give me goosebumps. If he never talked about anything but winning wars I'd be happy-it's the other stuff that irks me. Boy oh boy though, did Fred in his good ol country boy way rip the Democrats a new one. Still proud to be a Fredhead too EPU!
“To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering.”-Barry Goldwater
Kill the terrorists.
End the NewTone.
Punch the Hippies.
for getting in late and running a pathetically lazy campaign.
Jindal in 2012!
....the great minds are not the great politicians. Fred has a great conservative mind, and his time on screen has honed his ability to make a damn fine presentation, but he isn't, and I don't think ever was, a real politician - even when he was running for Senate I don't think he had the real fire for the campaign trail that is needed. Fred doesn't run on stump speeches and pablum, kissing babies and 30-second ads. He runs on ideas and discussion - and it's hard to have a real discussion on the trail.
Fred will be a part of a McCain administration. I have no doubt that he will be offered any position he wants. There are so many places he could go - Chief of Staff, AG, Solicitor General, White House Counsel. Hell make him Communications Director or Press Secretary and have him bat down the silly questions that spout from people like Helen Thomas.
Another intriguing possibility - make Fred the General Chairman of the Party - the role that Mel Martinez so gloriously failed at. Fred actually is solid on the issues, and he knows how to talk about them. Something I can't say for the Senator from Florida.
listening to Reagan again just fills me with pride and hope.
I still wear my FredHead gear and I still have my Fred08 sticker on my vehicle -- and I am not taking it off.
With Fred around I don't have to compromise my principles. With Fred around I also stop shaking with fear, frightened by what Obama and his supporters would do to this great country if he got ahold of it.
Obama scares me -- Fred and Reagan put a steel rod in my spine.
M Penny
Wasn't he one of the Care Bears?
"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill
version that shows "Fred's" boot standing on top of Obama's great seal shield. (well, in my imagination, anyway)
The free exchange of ideas inevitably yields both heat and light.
Wonderful ad. Hope undecideds look at this and note it well.
The other side wants to run a giveaway system. That is not what this country is.
Dr. Steve Sauerberg is already running radio ads against Durbin
The free exchange of ideas inevitably yields both heat and light.
The party is trying to show us that it does not need us or people like Fred Thompson, why would they make him head of the party? I can't support John McCain now or in November.
You won't be able to handle the many disappointments that are sure to happen.
Now also found at The Minority Report
I've been following politics since I was 16, now 31. I know there will be disappointments. I don't compromise and vote for a moderates. The great thing is, people like me have a choice. I'm voting for Bob Barr. If Bob Barr was not running I would not vote for president, so this is not a vote McCain is losing.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
Not to start a flame war, but since when has compromising one principle after another for a R victory been a conservative principle?
I've voted Republican a few times that I would have liked to vote for someone else, or a few times where I didn't know the candidates well (especially down the ballot), but I have never felt a "You are required to compromise your principles to vote for the Republican" push as I have in this election.
I don't know when or how this push started, but I really don't think it bodes well for the survivability of Conservativism withing an ever growing Republican tent.
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I might vote for McCain, if he picks a decent running mate. But it will not be because I have been frightened into voting for him. That worked on me before and I voted for Bushes three times and a Dole. I was not happy with the results. Won't happen again.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
2000 was my first Presidental election.... so I've only had President Bush to vote for twice.... which I did.
As I got a LITTLE older, not that 28 is old, I found myself continuing to move to the right in a society that is moving to the left.
This has placed me in a position to vote my convictions and never vote for a winner or vote for who would win that I think would do the best job and sacrifice my convictions.
I wrestle with the idea of our Founding Fathers. They didn't settle. They risked capture and death for their convictions on freedom.... where should I then feel justified in drawing the line as to what I'll sacrifice?
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you make a lot of sense. However our system is set up to give us "two" choices that have a realistic chance of winning the White House when it comes to the general election. Yes a third posibility is out there and they could win, but I don't think you would bet the farm on it. I have been voting since the late 60's and I find that if you vote for anyone other than those two choices you are not impacting the process at all. You need to sit down and really compare the two candidates and find the one who you think will do the best job of running this country and vote for him. I found things in Reagan I didn't agree with and he was the best candidate I ever voted for. If you are looking for the perfect President you won't find him. He doesn't exist. Voting is like being on a jury. You need to know the difference between reasonable doubt and unreasonable doubt. I find that between McCain and Obama there is no doubt....
And, take it from one who tried this before and voted Perot. I got Clinton who, at the time, I felt "really couldn't be all that bad". I had 8 years to regret that one.
...instead of Dole? GHWBush? GWBush?
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
You are not going to take the party back by voting for Barr or by staying home...either of these options are nothing more that ceding ground to the leftward lean of our Party. Now you may say the same things wrt a vote for McCain, but I wouold still disagree because we can mold McCain look at the progress that has already been made. If you really think Barr can win or Obama can be molded to be more conservative then by all means vote Barr or Obama or stay home. I intend to support the only party that can truly be used to move conservatism forward. It is selfish to forsake the masses just because voting for McCain will hurt your pride. Additionally I am not asking you to bend our break and Conservative Principles, and voting for John McCain does not mean you have to. You can be both principled and pragmatic at the same time...the two are not mutually exclusive. In fact I must ask what Principle are you compromising, because I really would like to know. And please don't list a bunch of policy spats because those aren't principles those are policies.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
by rewarding Rino's and Rockafellas by voting into power?
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
Personally I am going to continue to supports conservatives where they exist, help conservative primary opponents like Jeff Crank for 5th CD/a> and Vote for John McCain and hope that Fred Thompson has his ear. I will also push for a conservative VP selection. What are you gonna do...vote Bob Barr. The point is you can be both a principle conservative overall and pragmatic about the individual choices. When we don't have a electable conservative to vote for we should look at who is better able to promote the policies that match our principles. In doing so we stay principled and keep marching forward.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
you are just being used by the nonconservatives in the party who now have taken back control like they had it from Coolidge to Reagan.
They ain't your friends, they ain't your buds, they will always let you down. they laugh at you and fear you. They are the enemy that has to be defeated first before we can defeat the Democrats.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
I am all for defeating the NeoCons and Rinos in congress...did you even go to the link for Jeff Crank...hello!!!! We are not going to elect Bob Barr...but we could elect a lot of young blood conservatives like Jeff Crank if people like you would put your money where your mouth is. I have posted the link to Crank's issues page which reads like Fred Thompson's...so you might just want to ease back on calling me a neocon stooge. You have to fight for change in every primary across the nation I don't care where you live. And the best place to fight is within the GOP not taking pot shots via Bob Barr, who is completely unelectable.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
but there will always be that old dinosaur rino sitting in a house or senate seat. Our party, in the past has given money and support to those guys even when challenged by real conservatives. The fact is, if you keep voting for them, just because they are the incumbent or stole the nomination, then you are stopping change and perpertrating the status quo.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
You are the party...and that is why I offered a link to an individual TrueConservative™ instead of a link to the GOP. Stop giving money to the GOP give it to the individuals. I am making an effort for change whereas you and Lance seemed to have given up on action and only know how to speak about principle while making no impact with real action. So who's perpetrating?
But like I said I have to go to Choir Practice...later.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
I understand what you say, and I've seen such statements before.... but I also don't believe that we take back the RNC by continuing to enable a leftward movement.
Of course the million dollar question is: How, then, do we do it?
We have to get the base to move to the right or, for those already on the right, stop sacrificing for the sake of a Republican win.
no short order, I understand... but sometimes it takes someone willing to stand up for themselves.
Now you may say the same things wrt a vote for McCain, but I wouold still disagree because we can mold McCain look at the progress that has already been made.
The question then is, what makes you think that those changes are sincere, given that they have all happened during an election year for which he was running for president? Yes, that is a cynical question, but one formed by watching elections since I was a little kid.
If you really think Barr can win or Obama can be molded to be more conservative then by all means vote Barr or Obama or stay home.
I can guarentee that I won't vote for Obama, but I REALLY am not sure what I am going to do. This isn't just random rants for the sake of complaining... I really don't know what I'm going to do.
It is selfish to forsake the masses just because voting for McCain will hurt your pride.
The selfish argument is a new one, I admit.... but I am not in this quandry due to any pride issues. It is out of a love for my country and a fear of where it may go if conservatives continue to compromise for the sake of winning.
In fact I must ask what Principle are you compromising, because I really would like to know. And please don't list a bunch of policy spats because those aren't principles those are policies.
My main conservative priniciple that I do not see in Senator McCain is in our views on protecting this nation from threats foreign and domestic. I believe he wants to protect this nation, I believe that everyone running for president does (Even Obama!), but there are multiple ideas on how to do that. McCain, too often, swims with the left (or the center, to be gracious) on such issues as Gun Control and Amnesty/Border Security/Illegal Immigration which, I believe, are vital aspects to protecting this nation.
The 2nd Amendment is a principle, not a policy issue. Protection of the Constitution as a holy document (Yes, I am one of those religious nutters that believes that the Constitution has had some divine inspiration) is a principle, no a policy issue.
now, I don't believe that McCain is out to trash the 2nd Amendment or the Constitution, but I do not see a history of stopping those who try.
In this election cycle, I have yet to see the vigor against the Left from McCain that he showed against the North Carolina GOP when they spoke about Obama's Judgement regarding Rev. Wright.
If things were different.... if Congress was in equal numbers for Gridlock, or if there were a Conservative control of Congress, then I wouldn't care and would gladly vote for McCain.
But with a Democrat congress, and signs that the lead may grow, we really cannot have someone who will agree with them (either wholly like Obama, or as a matter of compromise to play nice like McCain)
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Dependence is Slavery.
You're last sentence sums it up much better than I ever could....Here are your options:
One scoop Ice Cream Cone (McCain)
An Ice Cream Cone filled with Horse Manure (Obama)
And that pony that every girl was promised at age 9 and they are still waiting for (Bob Barr)
Given those ARE your only options which are you gonna pick. My principles guide me to the one who will do the least harm. And just because I know this might drive you up a wall....the platform which Bob Barr is running on wants the legalization of drugs and an end to the War on Drugs....heh..You know I like ya brotha but look deep and you will agree....Also I am a CrazyChristian™ as well.
One last thing wrt Rights and where McCain stands:
Congress/Judiciary is where you need send conservatives in order effect the change you want. McCain has promised his Judges will be in the like of Alito and Roberts and all you can do is take his word and then be an activist once he is elected in order to ensure his actions conform with his promises.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
You're last sentence sums it up much better than I ever could....Here are your options:
One scoop Ice Cream Cone (McCain)
An Ice Cream Cone filled with Horse Manure (Obama)
And that pony that every girl was promised at age 9 and they are still waiting for (Bob Barr)
Look at it from my point of view. I'm lactose intolerant and I'm being told that unless I eat the ice cream, I'm supporting a cone filled with crap.
Given those ARE your only options which are you gonna pick.
They're not the only options. That is kind of a false question. You're setting up a hypothetical situation that doesn't exist, then using it to justify compromising (again) on conservative principles as though such compromising will be rewarded by a sudden rightward slide by the rnc.
I vote very conservatively and do so all down the ticket, yet it is on one race that I find issue, and those who are in my position are insulted and bullied into voting against principle for the sake of the win.
And just because I know this might drive you up a wall....the platform which Bob Barr is running on wants the legalization of drugs and an end to the War on Drugs....heh..You know I like ya brotha but look deep and you will agree
I hadn't come out in support of Barr. I don't know that I would have. I didn't know much about him. I am not a libertarian, remember?
Also I am a CrazyChristian™ as well.
Then remember God's words, through John, to the church of Laodicea.
Congress/Judiciary is where you need send conservatives in order effect the change you want. McCain has promised his Judges will be in the like of Alito and Roberts and all you can do is take his word and then be an activist once he is elected in order to ensure his actions conform with his promises.
You should know politicians better than to take them at their word, not when it doesn't match up to their past actions.
But yes, Congress is where we need to focus our power, yet all of the argument is over McCain. Unfortunately, Congress is not in our control, so we need a President who can stand up to Congress (and is willing to) until we can retake congress. McCain has a history of siding with Democrats, against Republicans, on a whole host of issues... that makes me doubt that he'll suddenly be tough on them as President.
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...may I suggest that you read the prophetic writings of one Gamecock....maybe just maybe McCain has been positioning himself for this election. Like it or not he has broad appeal and right now his stiffest competition is his base. And we are winning time and again. I think this translates as good new. If you were to measure McCain on his totality he would appear much more conservative, but he still would not be a TrueConservative™. Your vote is yours to cast but remember it affects more than just you.
P.S. What was the reference to John...I missed it...if you were offended but the CrazyChristian™ comment I apologize it was not intended to be harmful more of a inside joke about how the non-Christians characterize us.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
may I suggest that you read the prophetic writings of one Gamecock....maybe just maybe McCain has been positioning himself for this election. Like it or not he has broad appeal and right now his stiffest competition is his base. And we are winning time and again. I think this translates as good new. If you were to measure McCain on his totality he would appear much more conservative, but he still would not be a TrueConservative™. Your vote is yours to cast but remember it affects more than just you.
I do hope you are right. I really do.
P.S. What was the reference to John...I missed it...if you were offended but the CrazyChristian™ comment I apologize it was not intended to be harmful more of a inside joke about how the non-Christians characterize us.
Beginning of Revelation (before it gets to the end of the world type stuff) has letters to 7 churches. One of them is to Laodicea. While it was no specifically what was being referred to (as the letter was about moral living rather than political voting) I feel the message still applies.
And no, I would be rather hypocritical if I was offended by your CrazyChristian (I can't do the tm thing) label, as I often refer to myself as the "Single Straight White Male Conservative Christian Gun nut... and therefore evil."
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...in the same light is it moral to knowingly abstain from voting based on principle even though there is the distinct possibility that evil will triumph? Is it now immoral or amoral to vote for John McCain. King David fell off the wagon in some horrible ways but he was still a man after God's own heart, was he not? Who are you to say that the Lord of all Creation cannot use John McCain, just another sinner, the same way he did John Newton, the man who penned Amazing Grace. We are where God wants us to be as a Nation or else we would be different. Now I also believe that the Lord has ignited the fire in most of us and the change he wants for us is starting to come about...but patience is a virtue and with faith and persistence we will overcome...
Now I really have to go to Choir Practice!!!
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
That isn't the teaching from the letter to the church of laodicea in the book of revelation.
Have fun at choir practice! :)
I used to play bass guitar for a few different churches, but that was long ago.
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"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
Come on brotha...do really expect me to accept that as an argument in a political context???? What John is speaking about is clearly spiritual fervor and in no way is it comparable to political stringency. All that said I understand what you were trying to say...but I must question who will be judging the heat or lack thereof...do we need some sort of Politburo who can deem our candidates hot or cold...or are you willing to be the judge of political standards. You appear to be elevating yourself with pride...hopefully you realize that if you get to high it will hurt way worse when you fall...because we all fall.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
I said that the passage didn't specifically deal with political things, but I still feel the teaching applies.
I understand that you don't. And that's fine, theology is the study of Truth, none of us can claim to have it all.
I don't understand where your pride argument comes from. There is no pride. I am not elevating myself, or suggesting that people follow me.
I am merely stating my opinion and have the security to say "No, Here is the line. No further."
It is not pride to stand up for your beliefs, at least, not pride in yourself. . . . I am proud of my country. I am proud of the freedom that comes from Conservativism. I am proud of my faith. I am proud of the freedom that comes from Christ.
I am not going to stand by and let people trample on the country, Conservative ideals or Christianity.
I find MANY that agree in the aversion to people trampling on the United States.
I find MANY that agree in the aversion to people trampling on Christianity.
I, however, find many Conservatives who are not willing to stand up for conservative principles, even at the cost of the Republican Party. Far too many believe the hype that we'd better enable the leftward slide of the republican party or else we're just voting Democrat.
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Dependence is Slavery.
Lets assume for a moment that the white house is a pirate ship...and right now the captain isn't responding to his crew...but the captain also hold the keys and the maps and the compass...without him we would be totally lost...would it make sense for the crew to start sabotaging the ship...or would it be more beneficial for the crew to work together develop a plan and seize the ship as it's own and force the captain to either change his ways or walk the plank.
I ask this because what I get from you is sabotage the ship....and what I am for is seizing the ship and then the captain will be accountable to us or we will make him walk the plank....but for this to happen we must retain the ship.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
But your plan, to support the Republicans anyway, has been exactly what we've done for well over a decade.
It has resulted in MULTIPLE liberal republicans, a loss of power in Congress to Democrats, and a candidate for President that supports "Cap and Trade" has mentioned 'obscene profits' of oil companies (as though oil companies are the ones to blame), has supported amnesty and feels that Gitmo should be closed.
Doing it your way has NOT worked, and it has left Conservatives all that much weaker... which is to be expected when you give up your foundation of principles for the ever sinking sand of enabling a leftward slide at the expense of Conservative values and principles.
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Dependence is Slavery.
Do whatever you like...I don't care anymore...all you have done here is try to lay blame on me even though I have linked to trueconservatives™ who need your help in primaries...but yeah its guys like me who are the problem...and you can vote for a rock and feel good about yourself and your principles and in the mean time...what has that done to help conservatism...nothing...that is why I brought up pride...it is your pride in your unwavering principles that will be your downfall...I am now truly done...I will not respond any further. PERIOD.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
I've not blamed YOU for anything. Where is that coming from?
You speak as though my desire for conservatives means that I am abandoning everything with an R.
In local and state races I have no problem voting for the republicans that represent me. Not because they are republicans, but because they are Conservatives.
My only questions are of the wisdom of voting for McCain if I am to hold to my Conservative convictions, and you call me prideful for it?
It is not pride, it is conviction.
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Dependence is Slavery.
I'm sure you must have better things to do, like going around and telling your friends (and anyone else that'll listen) how politically pure you are.
Oh, and I hope you enjoy that 1/2 vote for Obama.
level positions that are unnecessary, which is most of them, and just have one all-encompassing Department of Fred.
I would love to continue the discussion but I have to go to choir practice...I will check back later and respond if needed.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
support your local Congressmen if he thinks the way you do. Send a message of conservatism to the House and Senate. We need to convince the local voters to vote for the Conservative. It's easier for them to win because the MSM is focused on the White House. Then vote for McCain for President even if you don't agree with everything he is saying. He is far more likely to go along with a conservative congress than Obama and much more will get done. It's a matter of hitting them in their weak spot.
he inspires. Whatever job he is offered, you can be sure he will succeed and Our Country will be improved. I would love to see him as White House Chief of Staff because his constant contact with the President would have a dramatic impact on the decision making process and on policy. So I say to President McCain, give him the job and watch him rally America to the cause of Freedom...
The other guys kinda hijacked it with the usual discussion that will likely never stop until Redstate 3.0 is not beta.
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Some folks are well meaning but they have a tendancy to get tunnel vision and are stuck on one issue. Everyone needs to take a deep breath, step back, and look at the big picture. Are we really doing our cause any good by tearing down the only candidate who appears to have the best interests of the American Public at heart? We have been given two choices. Now all we have to do is pick one and support him. When he gets elected we will have plenty of time throw stones at him when he goes the wrong way on a particular issue.
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Conservatives, you all are whisteling in the wind. In my opine, McCain has no more chance of winning this election than a snow ball in H...
It is great fun to sit and opine on who would influence him, or be his successor. The "Obama "" Movement"", in case you haven't been to any sites other than here, is pulling out in front so far while McCain hasn't left the post.
Conservatives, we are losing this race. We have to understand that the 08 election will cost us the basics of our Liberty. The Four Freedoms, espoused in the WW2 days of trial. This is not just a rant of frustration, it is a clear statement of the fate that awaits every last one of us conservatives and the USA on January 20th 09.
Review the buried sites that deal with the agendas that the Left has ALREADY published, as being the issues that will take place in the first 100 days. Loss of Free Speech. Loss of Religious choice, Loss of right to assemble. it is right there in front of our noses.
I hope and pray the electorate that seems to be asleep, wakes up and saves our butts, because we Conservatives have just wasted the last 14 years.
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does whether in public or taped. You can hear the passion he has for conservatism and the love for this country. I not saying McCain doesn't share those same values but Fred's booming voice and sincerity come through clearer. I' ll never for the debate when Fred ripped Huckabee on his liberal ideas. Or his last speech after the SC primary.
Whatever role Fred would play for McCain it should be with lots of speeches about our country. We know things are bad and may be getting more so ..soon.. but Fred and conservatives like him remind us that our best days are ahead of us.
If Fred were to become the RNC spokesman, he could do for the Republican Party what Charlton Heston did for the NRA.
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