I Welcome Our McCainiac Overlords (consider this your open thread to vent. Put it all here and then be done with it)
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En la luz del poste de Byron York, justo como decir hola y bienvenidos a nuestros nuevos jefes supremos McCainian.
Yo apreciaría un trabajo en la sombra y sólo preguntaría que ellos usen la fusta frugalmente en mí. También, si ellos consideran posiciones para campos de reeducación, sé este lugar agradable en las montañas de Carolina esto tiene temperaturas agradables y clima.
El senador McCain habla a las 15h00 hoy en CPAC.
[By the way, lighten up people. Just trying some light hearted humor here.]
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In all seriousness, despite the light hearted humor that will no doubt rub the humorless the wrong way, it is now time to rally behind McCain.
I will have more on my thoughts later.
The big question is how far McCain will go today to patch up ties with conservatives today.
Stay tuned . . .
I still can't understand this post!
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I support Governor Mike Huckabee for President.
I am a Conservative first and a Republican second. I will not vote or support John McCain no matter what he says NOW. His record speaks for itself. As they say, "Talk is cheap."
Because republicans will be united against the liberal clinton or the liberal obama. We will feel like we have to go along with the liberal mccain.
One example. If hillary is president, we may be able to stop amnesty for illegals. If mmcain is president, stopping it would be much harder. Consider budgets and everything else. If a democrat liberal is in the white house, we are more likely to find our fiscal discipline than if a liberal republican is in the white house.
It's as simple as that. Our liberal is not better than their liberal. Liberals are liberals.
I wouldn't want to debate who's "more conservative" because I think it's a silly argument.
But Thompson's and McCain's voting records when they were both in the Senate was nearly identical.
"I ain't never votin' fo no Democrat so long as I draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas
Were Thompson to have been in the Senate with McCain during the Bush II years, your basic premise would not hold water.
Thompson would not have voted against the Bush tax cuts, would not have supported McCain Kennedy...
sigh-why did I even come in here to address this?
I'm wasting my time.
Iustum et tenacem propositi virum non civium ardor prava iubentium, non vultus instantis tyranni mente quatit solida.
-Quintus Horatius Flaccus
So you don't think Thompson would have voted to support our troops at every turn as McCain did?
So you don't think Thompson would have voted to confirm Samuel Alito & John Roberts like McCain did?
I'd really like to know if you think that, because those are the most important votes during President Bush's second term.
"Life is too short, can't we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?"
to restrict free speech, give citizenship on the cheap (at best), buy into the AGW agenda and the crushing effects it will have on our economy, have your name listed on a who's who list of liberal legislation none of which advanced one iota of the conservative agenda (so please spare me the Reagan comparisons), and treat the conservatives on your side of the aisle with more vitriol and contempt than you do liberals, that makes you a conservative?
"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
When the old fart said he'd shrink the size of government, I just about popped a vein. All he did was remind me how drastic an increase in the size of government it will take to monitor our carbon quotients, not to mention huge new bureaucracy it will require to process 20 million new residents and their 40 to 60 million reunited family members. And then there's expansion of law enforcement, schools, infrastructure, etc. to be managed by other bureaucracies.
Anyone who believes government will shrink during a McCain administration is either very bad at math, optimistic to the point of retarded development, or is simply not considering that the man's promises across the policy spectrum just don't make sense. The contradict each other.
If he believes everything he says, he's not intellectually qualified to lead. If he's not being honest, he's not trustworthy enough to lead. It has to be one of the two.
I fully expect that under his Cap and Trade policies the EPA would have to set up shop in my home and make me exchange credits for what I emanate each night after dinner. I swear that's just hyperbole on my part...but my family would beg to differ.
Better be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident security. --Edmund Burke
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is that Republicans cannot govern. Your assessment relegates us to the "back benches" forever where we can be "aginners," but not set out and implement our own agenda.
Sadly, history is on your side; "Conservatism's" finest hours were fighting from the back benches whether supporting Reagan and Bush I from the minority, backing down WJC sucessfully enough to get a majority, or in the early days of our majority when we still had an agenda, even if that agenda was basically "Stop the Democrats."
When we finally won and had the WH and the Congress, we became as venal, grasping, and unpricipled as the worst of the Democrat excesses. So maybe our proper role, at least til we can have some people on the bench who are both conservative AND know how to run a government, is to stand in the Democrats' path yelling STOP. Maybe they'll listen, maybe not.
In Vino Veritas
Reagan won because the base was excited. Both Bushes won because the base was excited.
Not excited yet? Watch the youtube clip of Hillary promising to raise everyone's taxes back to where they were in 2000.
Imagine what kind of judges Obama would put on the Supreme Court and how they would expand affirmative action.
Picture Hillary sending school nurses to junior high schools where they can help girls "get rid of pregnancies" quietly without their parents finding out.
Imagine the horror of the next 9/11 with a liberal in charge of the military and the CIA.
I guess I take issue with your stance and those that say they will sit out because of McCain. If HRC or Obama win, they will be in for 8 years. That is the way you must look at it.
I am a father/husband that is an American first and foremost with Beliefs that are conservative. My family and America will suffer if HRC or Obama win. McCain will protect the U.S.- period; the Dems will not. Be an American first and do what protects your family and check the egos at the voting booth door.
If you must sit it out, then start now and be silent because
those who choose to ignore the right I served to protect
have no voice with me.
McCain is not my 1st or 2nd choice but I had enough of the Clintons the first time around and Obama will be worse.
Imagine Hugo Chavez visiting the White House.
Freedom isn't free!
Hey, I live in Phoenix. Ya gotta be able to communicate in Espanelo.
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I guess I got something out of those H.S. Spanish classes after all.
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Stepping back instead of keeping the pot boiling.
Thanks to the FredHeads and Huckalumps, we have McCain as our nominee.
I'll vote for him but he won't get a dime of my money.
Wasn't McCain winning when they were still in the race? Don't all the exit polls say that the 2nd choice for Huckabee voters was McCain? I don't want to come down on Romney supporters today, and I don't know if you're one, but I don't believe Fred, Mike, or Rudy prevented Romney from beating McCain.
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Why do you think Huckabee and Thompson entered the race? Romney is the real change agent and the neocons had to kill his candidacy.
I must have missed that memo.
Moe
PS: You've been here long enough to know that use of ythe word "neocon" to mean "conservatives I don't like" is strictly forbidden. Don't do it again.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
How's the kid btw? Mine just started potty training.
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
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Cheerful tyke, thank God. :)
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
Wait until they go eerywhere running a 100 meter dash. And its quite funny that they lok at you s if you know what they're saying and are supposed to understand it. It's a good life, bro :-)
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
I rather like being called a neocon and I embrace it.
We should not be ashamed of who we are like the liberals are. Ever heard hillary brag about how "liberal" she is? Heck no, becasue they are ashamed. We should not be that way.
"Life is too short, can't we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?"
Besides, 'liberal' doesn't describe them accurately. Ron Paul is a liberal. Hillary Clinton is a socialist.
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Indulge me please-define the neocons and their evil overlords. Because most neo-cons would consider Huckabee anything but one of them.
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
Thompson, Romney, Giuliani, Hunter, Brownback, McCain, Huckabee.
Drink Good Beer
FDT's Principles
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
that is an impressive amount of crazy to compress into such a short post.
"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill
This is what I find to be true.
But the fat lady has not sung because the Huckaboom is just going to continue, making it impossible for McCain to get the delegates he needs, which will lead to a brokered convention, which will result in Huck as VP, he'll get 4 years to spread the FairTax word, and then get 'er done when he takes office. And McCain gets to set the parameters for exactly what winning the war on terror, and the front in Iraq, looks like.
I support Governor Mike Huckabee for President.
to keep Huckabee (who he can't stand) from being VP.
Huckabee has zero chance to be the nominee at this point.
Thompson, Romney, Giuliani, Hunter, Brownback, McCain, Huckabee.
Drink Good Beer
FDT's Principles
he didn't deserve to win.
Thompson, Romney, Giuliani, Hunter, Brownback, McCain, Huckabee.
Drink Good Beer
FDT's Principles
and if he wants more of a future w/ the party, that was how to arrange his affairs.
"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.
Didn't Redstate state that anyone calling John McCain "Juan McCain" would be banned, because it is insensitive to Hispanics?
Why isn't posting articles in Spanish considered insensitive? Aren't both attempts at mocking McCain's stance on immigration?
Seems hypocritical to me.
Or is it that since you "have the mike", as they say, then you can set the standard where and when you please?
(By the way, I am a Hispanic, and couldn't care less what lame jokes are made, but seems to me that any and all standards ought to be applied fairly.)
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“It must not be supposed that folly is as powerful as truth,
just because it can, if it likes, shout louder and longer than truth.”
--Augustine
"...lighten up people. Just trying some light hearted humor here."
This was the same defense some made, by the way, of the Juan McCain cracks, and they were shot down. No exceptions made.
Yep. That's hypocritical, alright.
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just because it can, if it likes, shout louder and longer than truth.”
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deranged anti-McCainiacs, los conservadores locos puros, who may be having a meltdown at the moment.
...So it's okay to use Spanish to make fun of those who are against McCain, but it's NOT okay to use Spanish to make fun of McCain himself?
Okay. Yeah. That's fair.
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"And Now a Word for our Commenters: RACISM IS NOT WELCOME AT REDSTATE.
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...But only when it fits Redstate's tastes.
You are logically inconsistent.
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Erick wasn't making fun of Mexicans; he was making fun of people who wake up in the middle of the night, certain that there's a Mexican under their bed.
See? Problem solved: you've had your complaint addressed; and take all further objections to the Directors via the Contact link. Thanks in advance.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
"People weren't making fun of Mexicans; they were making fun of McCain who's policies would strengthen the concerns that people would wake up in the middle of the night, certain that there's a Mexican under their bed."
As you see, you're argument is my argument. The point I am making is that standards ought to be applied evenly. That is all.
You can keep your pity... just do me a favor and try to think a bit more clearly.
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Thank you.
I think that the editors have turned into the "humor police".
They decide when something is funny and when something is offensive.
As Snowball would say, "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others. Obey the pigs."
"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama to John McCain?"
Not at all. I prefer none of them!
None of them is not an option. You are getting one of them.
Chose wisely.
"I ain't never votin' fo no Democrat so long as I draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas
I just want it on the record that I find this post objectionable, for reasons that should be obvious.
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You asked me who I prefer. I prefer NONE of them. You're quite right that I will get one of them. But that does not require that I vote for or support any of them and I will not. This election, I will not buy into "the lesser of three-evils" argument.
"So you do want Hillary for president or at least you don't mind Hillary for President."
What's the alternative? McCain or Obama. Let me say it again. I don't want any of them, even though I will get one of them. I will not be part of electing any of them and I have a feeling that many Conservatives will take the same position.
"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
To do nothing is to allow the worse candidate a free pass.
John Calvin was not an advocate of passivity.
"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
To do nothing is to allow the worse candidate a free pass.
John Calvin was not an advocate of passivity.
"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
To do nothing is to allow the worse candidate a free pass.
John Calvin was not an advocate of passivity.
will now run RedMcState?
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Thompson, Romney, Giuliani, Hunter, Brownback, McCain, Huckabee.
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The Carolina mountains might indeed be a good place for a re-education camp, if a bit too hot much of the year for my taste.
has it within him to pull a Romney and do the right thing?
Like fight like hell to come from behind now that there is a more than reasonable chance? Yeah, I think he will do the right thing. This looks perfect for Huckabee.
Jim Tomasik
for him to win mathematically. Huck got what he wanted, Romney won't be President and if he's lucky, Johnny Mac will let him park his trailer on the White House lawn.
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
I think that he is too ethically challenged to do the right thing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/mikehuckabee/story/0,,2227378,00...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241
http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Pulled%27+Huckabee+ad+did+a...
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/mbecker908/2007/dec/17/huckabee_is_to_the_...
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
...to pump people up for supporting McCain, but isn't having much effect.
Here's the bottom line: McCain better figure out some way to inspire some people quick, or people like me are going stay home in droves.
while writing his C-PAC speech, to withdraw for the good of the party. He and his advisors had met and agreed to continue to the convention.
Mitt is a good man.
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Romney's not out! At least, that's what I'm telling myself when I send in my ballot today for the primary. And please McCain, don't pick Huckabee as your Veep.
Courage becomes a living and an attractive virtue when it is regarded not only as a willingness to die manfully, but also as a determination to live decently.
I was previously a Thompson supporter, now McCain, but want to commend Romney.
That was a great, moving, honest speech and I think it took a lot of heart and gut checking to do that. Well done Mitt, I really hope he ends up in the administration.
"Now is not time for the philosophical flexibility of our principles." Fred Dalton Thompson
Jason in NorCal
One question: will supporting McCain now strengthen or weaken the Republican party for 2010 and 2012?
R.J.
If Iraq looks decent in a couple of years, McCain helpd us because he is the gallant warrior who stayed the course to victory. Otherwise he is a drag on us just Like Bush was in 2006.
"Life is too short, can't we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?"
For VP?
"Now is not time for the philosophical flexibility of our principles." Fred Dalton Thompson
Jason in NorCal
Romney did an honorable thing by stepping aside. I suspected he would, because well he's not a bad guy.
Now is not the time to rally behind Huckabee. Because well lets face it 1) he has no shot of winning (even if Mitt gave him his support) he simply has no support outside of the southern states, which also shows why he has no shot at being a VP to McCain. 2) Huckabee is a jerk. He clearly has proven he has no concern for the sake of America; instead he only cares about himself.
I think most of us would be able to at least stomach McCain (given the other choices) if he picks a great VP. If he goes with Crist, Thompson, and even Romney I think he'd be able to get a good chunk of the angry conservatives in the general. Those would be three good choices for VP. All three would bring him good chunks of votes in the southern conservative states, but also they would be able to bring him swing states like FL, PA, and OH.
Personally I feel like his best choice would be Mitt, considering in states Mitt ran he ran a very close second or third to McCain, and the states he won he pretty much ran away with it. It shows that Romney has appeal in southern states, but also can clearly win Mountain states and swing states. Also, having a McCain-Romney Ticket might just secure that Mass goes to the republican side.
Anyone else have a similar view? Thoughts?
As a Southerner, I would say he is a better choice, but now I'm actually thinking it should be Mitt. I also think he needs to be rewarded for ending this early, because of the war, because of beating the dems etc...
I also think Romney is a great candidate next time if we get him in the public eye. Fred shows his age.
"Now is not time for the philosophical flexibility of our principles." Fred Dalton Thompson
Jason in NorCal
Don't forget McCain's old. I think he's going to be 72 before the convention. Can you really picture a 76 year old McCain running for reelection in 2012?
I know McCain's stubborn, but I don't think he'd be that stupid. If he ran as a 76 year old he'd get clobbered in 2012, on age alone.
So basically his candidate has to be good enough to be able to run in 2012 on that platform. I agree I think Romney would be a good choice, and this election has pushed him more into a public light. Thompson would show his age, and Crist well no one really knows him as of now (except they know he's the guy that endorsed McCain in FL). Should be an interesting choice...
It seems that Senator McCain is going to be the Republican nominee... one Purple candidate is in the race... let's see if we can get two.
A former Repub strategist turned PURPLE,
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"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.
The big question is how far McCain will go today to patch up ties with conservatives today.
He needs to go a long long way. And he can start by picking a conservative VP. What Mitt said was very classy. He might be a good choice, but McCain needs an attack dog.
Now we can officially discuss VP.
Does anyone know what time McCain speaks at CPAC? Looks like Fox News online is covering it.
"Now is not time for the philosophical flexibility of our principles." Fred Dalton Thompson
Jason in NorCal
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Two thirds of the world is covered by water,
the other third is covered by Champ Bailey.
I have Fox news still on CPAC on the computer, but not sure if it will switch out.
"Now is not time for the philosophical flexibility of our principles." Fred Dalton Thompson
Jason in NorCal
Regardless of what he says today, why would you beieve him? Doesn't his record say far more than what he may utter to Conservatives in order to get elected?
I guess it's time to drop all my own personal values and what I believe the role of government should be so I can get behind a looser McCain..
There will be a dhimmicrat in the white house next year.. god help us all..
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Could get his humorectomey reversed as nicely as you have, things could go forward.
Of course McCain would do well to have some humble pie in his diet, along with a rejuvenated sense of humor about now.
Great post. Congrats on the excellent Espanol.
Regards,
Oh well...
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We can still keep him in reins by making sure that we electing strong conservative members to congress. Alot of people are bemoaning that this is a lost cause with all the people retiring and with the Dems in control of congress, but I tend to disagree. What we need to do is start by targeting the first term-dems and those that just barely won last time.
see my most recent blog "Reagan was a FLuke". We need to recruit and groom candidates starting at the lowest levels.
People who are really conservative, especially fiscally.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
La mayoria que apoyan a Juan McCain no demuestran la gracia que demostro' Romney. Es una lastima.
It will happen. My guess is that it will be Thomas Golisano.
What exactly is it that John McCain can say today that will effectively resolve all of our anxieties and redirect our efforts towards uniting the Party? What would that be? I promise to build the fence before passing amnesty? I promise to follow-up with new tax reductions when Bush's expire? I promise not to lose my temper and poke you activist in the eye? I promise that I'll revisit McCain-Feingold with Russ, and get something better in the works? I promise not to over compensate with my Dem friends in an effort to 'get along'. I promise to look younger than my 72 years? Oh, and I promise not to name my buddies Huck or Lindsay as my VP?
I, for one, don't expect John McCain to do anything other than offer some well formulated nonsense, cooked up by his advisors, as their peace offering for all of his liberal missteps in years past. If anyone walks away from this convinced we've misjudge John and he isn't what we think he is, I'm looking forward to reading your take.
Yep, I can't wait to hear what crumbs the Emperor will toss us at CPAC, and I'm just SWELLING with confidence in his desire to make nice with the base once he's sitting in the big chair. Sounds familiar...
Darth Vader: Calrissian! Take the princess and the Wookie to my ship.
Lando Calrissian: You said they'd be left at the city under my supervision.
Darth Vader: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
McCain = Darth Vader?
LOL, that's funny. Not funny in that I agree, funny in that I can't believe someone would actually think that (and not be a Code Pinker).
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Two thirds of the world is covered by water,
the other third is covered by Champ Bailey.
I alwasy cheered for the Dark Side-so I would much rather roll with Lord Vader than Luke.
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
I mean, the title addressed the McCainiac Overlords -- ya know, reminds a little of Darth, the Evil Empire and all, no?
Plus, I have no confidence that the man will not sell conservatives up the river the first chance he gets -- no history of that, right? That exchange from TESB just jumped into my head. Conservatives, in the same boat as Lando, would have no options.
And that's just funny, I don't care who ya are.
Oh, and in point of fact, I actually called McCain the Emperor. I imagine in the above exchange, Lindsey Graham would be his 'boy', ya know, telling all 'the bigots to just shet up!'
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
and didn't get the joke. Everyone point and laugh at me :)
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Two thirds of the world is covered by water,
the other third is covered by Champ Bailey.
I mean, Erick gave us a thread with an invitation to vent. But on the other hand, the sentiment I expressed is not far from the truth. MDS? Hmmmm, have not decided. I have hated him from way back, long before he was ever the frontrunner, so does that count?
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
I had a serious case of MDS from about 2000 - 2007.5. If I can come around, I think most everyone can. Who knows! I still have some objections to him on policy grounds, but I think he'd be a pretty darn good president overall.
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Two thirds of the world is covered by water,
the other third is covered by Champ Bailey.
I find your lack of faith...disturbing. Seriously, I had to-I'm a proud Star Wars geek 3 was the only remake that should have been done mostly because I love the Dark Side of the Force. Sorry complete threadjack..but I can never help myself in indulging in Star Wars references.
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
Yoda: "Anger, fear, aggression ... The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny."
absentee
consumed by Darth Vader ::da da da dum dada dum dada, da da da dum dada dum dada:: Ok I swear I'm really done now
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
Luke: I've got to save you!
Anakin Skywalker: You already have, Luke. You were right, you were right about me. Tell your sister you were right...
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
Even being saved doesn't change the story of his fate. Indeed, it forever dominated his destiny if not his character or conviction.
Sigh. We're discussing star wars and the sun is still up. What is to dominate our destiny?
absentee
I too discussed Star Wars on the Clock lol...
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
He actually proves the prophecy true in the end. He defeats the Sith and restores balance to the Force. He defeats Emperor Palpatine, and by dying out, leaves the Sith in turmoil and allows Luke to bring the Jedi back into power. Wow, ok, I'm done debating Star Wars on the clock...
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
junkies?
embrace you!
and encourage you to also watch TCM!
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By the way I had to say on the Ann Coulter thread that I'm gonig to marry her if you don't beat me to the punch :-)
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
McCain/Rudy 08-kill the terrorists and punch the hippies.
between a backslidden Southern Baptist and a devout Connecticut one, and despite the fact that I really like more voluptuous women (see Marilyn on TCM), and given that I like to argue, and given that I seem to be good for an average of 5-6 years in the civilizing institution, I think Ann and I might last till the actual ceremony, and if so for a up to 3 months (I doubt I could change seasons with her!).
So, BR, have at it, but I warn you...
My support for marriage in modern feminized America is more theoretical than actual!
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I never made it to finishing the planning of the wedding...so at least you got to 5 years...:-)
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
McCain/Rudy 08-kill the terrorists and punch the hippies.
You won't be needing them at the voting booth.
McCain needs to clarify his position vis a vis amnesty opponents. He needs to make crystal clear that he disagreement with us is on policy terms, not on moral terms. Right now, I think that he, like Graham and Huckabee, considers us all to be bigots. He needs to do things to change my impression of him before he can get my vote.
I can appreciate that people might think differently than me about how to solve our illegal immigration / border integrity & security issues. It's a very complicated issue. However, I will not tolerate people who place hateful labels on me because I disagree with their policy ideas.
While the jibber-jabber about "I've learned my lesson/MerkinPeepul don't trust gubmint/Border security first" is all well and good...
What *I* want is a frackin' apology, for St. John the McCain and his people calling me a bigot, xenophobe, and racist because I and millions like me had a policy difference with His Magnificence.
Since both Huckabee and McCain disspirit the base and fracture the coalition in different ways, neither can win in the fall. (The Supreme Court nominations for the next 4 years are already lost...)
Given that, I must choose which candidate to vote for in the primary.
I think I would rather see McCain lose in the general. We don't need the strong pro-lifer getting creamed in the fall. We need the Dem-lover to be the fall guy...
All I've been hearing in hy head is Rush saying "what about Fred Thompson? If you're looking for a real conservative?" Man, oh man, I wish he had gained some traction now...
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
Mitthead for McCain/Rudy or insert conservative not named Huckabee here in 08
Coupla days ago Ericka Andersen posted a video (i think it came from NR) that was a 'we miss fred' thing. It'll warm/break your heart
Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies -- Frank J
it is definitely a pejorative. However, this primary campaign does not pass the smell test. A set up to cripple Romney before he got traction.
If we espouse conservative values, we need to figure out a way to clean out the valueless who screw the party. As in what happened this primary season.
are valueless?
Its sounds like they have values, you just don't agree with theirs. Or more accurately, you don't agree with the fact that they are not with you 100% of the time.
NC
It's up to McCain to reach out more than it's up to us to rally behind. He & the republican leadership better get aware that Hillary is not the inevitable nominee for the democrats. They cannot & should not count on animus toward Hillary to drive votes, & not count on voters to be informed on policy enough to vote against Barak on that. McCain better do his darndest to give up something for which to vote if he wants to win...
it is definitely a pejorative. However, this primary campaign does not pass the smell test. A set up to cripple Romney before he got traction.
If we espouse conservative values, we need to figure out a way to clean out the valueless who screw the party. As in what happened this primary season.
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Isn't terrible but you could work on it there. Since you probably value the spanish you appear to know I'll give you a couple of pointers. Just a couple of common American mistakes:
In this case...
Preguntar-to ask a question
Pedir- to ask (for) a thing
"sé" from saber- to know something ---> like a fact or info
conocer-to know a place
esto-"that" but as an independent pronoun. Ex: (talking about the current race) Esto me molesta bastante porque no quiero que McCain sea presidente.
que-the proper "that" for this situation. ---> I know a place that....
:)
Very humorous though. I still can't decide if I want McCain to win or lose.
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"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."
--Rudy Giuliani
Rewarding irresponsible and corrupt candidates like McCain is not the anwser.Any more than the mistake Reagan made when he gave the amnesty in the first place. I believe that the war on terrorism is real and must be dealt with but the bigger war is against the WEST.Great Britain is hemorraging is native citizenry by 700 a day.Sharia law looms.The Dutch are fighting against the Islamization of Europe and experiencing violent retaliation by extremists and the EU beaurocratic globalists who arrested politicians fighting against their immigration policies.
In America the same globalist cabal is at work dumbing down America with multiculturalism and blocking free speech.McCain is bought by this crowd.
He wants to integrate the US with Mexico.Marginalize the WASP let power reside at the top.
People who respect the founding fathers should fight him tooth and nail.They warned of the battles a Republic will face to maintain it.
Peter Brimelow:"In politics..ethnicity is destiny"
You just won't think you did as well tommorrow morning, as you think you did just now.
"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.
Amazing what Google turns up.
I think that you should just keep moving along, buddy.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
Yah, because we all know that most Mexicans are Jihadists.
: rolls eyes :
"I ain't never votin' fo no Democrat so long as I draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas
What a lousy, lousy day.
I weep for our country, and what used to be my party. There is no way in Hades I will ever vote for McCain. Why should I compromise my principles to save the country when he wouldn't compromise his? He's the one who's supposed to be all noble and heroic.
And I guess after this, RedState is going to be an enforced echo chamber?
Sad. Just sad. Say hello to a Democratic administration. It's coming.
If you get to make this backhand statement directed at the rest of us and our principles, I am going to make the same reply every time. It isn't compromsing your principles. Your entire perspective is wrong.
absentee
Sometimes a loss now brings large gains later.
Perspective.
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"It is the American sound. It is hopeful, big-hearted, idealistic, daring, decent, and fair. That's our heritage; that is our song. We sing it still."
-RWR January 21, 1985
I might dare further and question how an informed, pro-American perspective can root for Clintobama to be let into the Oval Office.
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"If we want to take this party back, and I think we can someday, let’s get to work." – Barry Goldwater
When America was last fed up with the DC Overlords, it was in the wake of Nixon and Ford and our running away from Vietnam and shaming its military it sent to fight with one arm tied behind its back. I remember my grandfather's bumper sticker, "Oust the Incumbent!" What followed was the anti-establishment candidacy of a rural peanut farmer who did not know excrement from shoe polish about foreign policy. So, in Biblical terms, Carter begat Reagan. The country had its fill of liberal idealism where America is the always the worst, and instead embraced a message and therefore the man who espoused the greatness that this country has to offer not just herself but to the world as well.
So, since there is an obvious leaning toward the left amongst our fellow citizens, let’s let them have it for four years. Let's choke on more government run programs ad nausium and then set the stage for a Conservative with a brain, a spine and finally, some charisma.
Gobama!
...Lean not on your own understanding...
Carter may have begot Regan, maybe, I think there is a very good argument that Reagan could have happened even if Ford had won in 1976.
But he ALSO begot our problems in Iran, and thusly partly in Iraq, he clearly begot or problems in Afghanistan, and he almost lost us the cold war.
He also begot the Department of Education, which we STILL have not been able to throw off in spite of Reagan's best efforts.
We are STILL paying the price of Carter's victory. The country would STILL be better off if he had never won.
"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas
There simply is no way that a loss guarantees an immediate later win.
A famous Rush quote/maxim from 2006 that i think he will eventually follow (he has already recently used to deny he has called for losing):
We don't win by losing!
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in that. Don't know that there has ever been much "liberal idealism" in the res publica. There has been a lot of what ranged from outright Communism, with a big C, to idealistic reformer or progressives dedicated to some or another cause, but not anything you could call any sort of mass movement. Even in times that might have justified it, e.g., the last third of the 19th Century or the period of the commodity collapses after the WWI boom, and of course the Great Depression, never really produced a mass movement in this Country for Leftist causes. Women's Suffrage and Black Civil Rights were embraced by the Left, in the latter case somewhat co-opted by the Left, but neither are exclusively Leftist causes.
Jimmy Carter could be described as a liberal only be comparison to Lester Maddox and the other overtly racist Southern governors that he succeeded and superceded and did not run as a liberal; he ran as not corrupted and not Washington, and being a Southerner helped a lot. Southerners supported him because he was a Southerner, and the first to legitimately aspire to the Presidency since the Civil War. The Democrat Party was pretty much dead in The South in Presidential races, and Carter's "Southerness" was what got Southern support, not Democrat positions.
He was much unloved by the DC and NY elites, who made fun of him and his family almost as much as they make fun of GWB. The Democrats had firm control of Congress and could do as they pleased without so much as a "by your leave" to the President. Likewise, the NEA had by this time established firm control of the Democrat Party, and Congress and Carter paid their campaign debt by establishing the Dept. of Education. Now start trying to think of any other memorable iniative from the Carter Era. To my recollection, the most memorable thing about that time was DC's ineptitude and its impotence in dealing with anything it touched.
You had a Country not that had had a dalliance with Leftism and now was remorseful about the excesses, but rather a Country that seemingly had lost its ability to do anything right. Reagan strode upon the scene a big, handsome, confident Westerner, the ultimate mythological creature in America of that day. His confidence more than his conservatism is what drew the res publica to him. His brand of "government off my back and out of my pocket" politics resonated with almost anyone who actually paid taxes other than the Liberal elites in a Country just sick to death of government ineptitude and corruption. Reagan's message of less government resonated both with philosophical conservatives and with Ds and Is who were just sick of business as usual. I would posit that confidence and competence were much greater factors in his election than ideological conservatism.
While Reagan has been canonized by the Right and even the Left is reticent to criticize him these days, he was looked down upon by the DC elites and hated by the Left. Though it goes back to his days of Governor of CA rather than the Presidency, everyone knew exactly who Joan Baez was talking about when she sang of "a drugstore, truck-driving man/the leader of the Ku Klux Klan/... when summer comes rolling around/you'll be lucky to get out of town." The Left, the true hard Left, hated him viscerally, and they hated him all around the World. Much of the World, and even much of this Country, was legitimately concerned that he was so provactive that he would set off that nuclear conflagration that had been hanging over our heads for thirty years.
We see now that Reagan's election led to a whole new era, but it was far from obvious then. He prescribed some very unpleasant medicine to the Country and one may wonder how history might have been written had not the McGovernite wing of the Democrat Party siezed control between '72 and '78 or so. Reagan v. a Democrat in the Humphrey or Scoop Jackson mold and not in thrall to the hard Left might have had a very different outcome than Reagan v. Mondale. Those were not pleasant times, and only near the end of Reagan's administration did it become evident that something was indeed working both domestically and in dealing with our old adversaries, the Soviets.
Well this is far too long and maybe should have been its own blog, but the Reagan Era looks a Helluva lot better in retrospect than it did at the time and his election and re-election owe as much to the war going on insided the Democrat Party as to his politics and policies. I for one would just as soon avoid having to give the Country that kind of strong and unpleasant medicine again in order to cure it from the ill effects of a Democrat Administration.
In Vino Veritas
"Now start trying to think of any other memorable iniative from the Carter Era."
His inauguration ceremony was rather memorable (the walking part).
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Or something like that. Before we ever got to this place I have despised the man whose god is himself. His rationale behind McCain Feingold was that "even [he] could be corrupted by money." So I say if you have a problem with your wondering eyes and being faithful to your wife, stay out of the strip clubs!
My concern is for socialism to take even more root than it has already in America. There will always be communists in America. Everyone, especially the Godless, strive to create a paradise on earth, where man's sinful nature is reduced from public affect. We have been continuing with a pattern of reducing excellence to accommodate "those less fortunate" for decades and it has led to our losing our leadership role in a number of areas including education and innovation.
Finally, as long as we allow the government to over regulate and over tax the successful in this country, then those who have will not risk it for their own increase since the chips are stacked against them. This will actually expand the have-nots in numbers and increasingly set us up for a dictatorship. The Left acknowledges this problem, but again, they believe the only "fair" way to deal with this is to take the ball away from the talented and give it to slug and then complain when he can't throw a fast ball. And so the class war will increase and we will increasingly look more like our caste neighbors to the south.
...Lean not in your own understanding...
I damn near fell out of my chair when I opened this up.
Erick, there are many and varied reasons why I love you (ahem - in a manly sorta way of course)...
This right here is perhaps one outstanding example of the biggest reason why...
WELL DONE my friend-
and, everyone else out there? Read the last sentence of Erick's post before you even THINK about clicking on "Reply"..m'kay?
Iustum et tenacem propositi virum non civium ardor prava iubentium, non vultus instantis tyranni mente quatit solida.
-Quintus Horatius Flaccus