The final nail in the Ron Paul Coffin
By flyerhawk Posted in 2008 — Comments (33) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
TNR just released an expose about Ron Paul's various old newsletters.
Let's just say... It ain't pretty.
This "Special Issue on Racial Terrorism" was hardly the first time one of Paul's publications had raised these topics. As early as December 1989, a section of his Investment Letter, titled "What To Expect for the 1990s," predicted that "Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities" because "mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white 'haves.'" Two months later, a newsletter warned of "The Coming Race War," and, in November 1990, an item advised readers, "If you live in a major city, and can leave, do so. If not, but you can have a rural retreat, for investment and refuge, buy it." In June 1991, an entry on racial disturbances in Washington, DC's Adams Morgan neighborhood was titled, "Animals Take Over the D.C. Zoo." "This is only the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s," the newsletter predicted. In an October 1992 item about urban crime, the newsletter's author--presumably Paul--wrote, "I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming." That same year, a newsletter described the aftermath of a basketball game in which "blacks poured into the streets of Chicago in celebration. How to celebrate? How else? They broke the windows of stores to loot." The newsletter inveighed against liberals who "want to keep white America from taking action against black crime and welfare," adding, "Jury verdicts, basketball games, and even music are enough to set off black rage, it seems."
and this...
While bashing King, the newsletters had kind words for the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. In a passage titled "The Duke's Victory," a newsletter celebrated Duke's 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Republican Senate primary. "Duke lost the election," it said, "but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment." In 1991, a newsletter asked, "Is David Duke's new prominence, despite his losing the gubernatorial election, good for anti-big government forces?" The conclusion was that "our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom." Duke is now returning the favor, telling me that, while he will not formally endorse any candidate, he has made information about Ron Paul available on his website.
Ouch. In the past Paul has argued that these writings were from staff writers gone amok without his approval. However according to this article this sort of thing went on for YEARS and with different periodicals.
Even the hardened skin of Ronulan may not be able to withstand this.
1. I knew about his freakish, evil newsletter long before this magazine found out about it.
2. Flyerhawk's no conservative or even a Republican.
3. Why don't you Ronulans respect property rights?
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He's a nut. I still lean small-l libertarian and I can see that.
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That's ok - Paul isn't much of a libertarian. In two separate debates, he stated that if we stopped funding the war, we could spend the federal money on education or health care. What kind of libertarian is that?
He wasn't talking about spending the money on government programs. He was talking about people keeping that money to spend on themselves.
"If this ain't a mess, it'll do until one shows up." -Sheriff Bell, No Country For Old Men
You appended a sarcasm tag to "People just take it all out of context", but that's actually what some Ronulans are saying about his racist statements.
For example check out this claim from another thread that "in context" Ron Paul's statements aren't racist.
They sound like the people who used to make excuses for Jim Crow laws.
"If this ain't a mess, it'll do until one shows up." -Sheriff Bell, No Country For Old Men
Jim Crow laws were a matter of policy. Now, as I noted in the other thread, if Ron Paul currently believes that a person's skin color should determine whether he is tried and punished differently from anyone else, that's a serious problem. As a matter of policy, though, could you please provide a single example of a racist law that Ron Paul has proposed in Congress, voted for, or currently has in his platform?
...TNR has finally caught up :-)
First, because it would be a great thing to print up and pass out, in order to convince certain groups not to support Ron Paul.
Second -- well, this is TNR. Just saying.
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Did I miss something, or is this just some kind of guilt by association thing?
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
According to TNR, all of the quotes come from Ron Paul's monthly newsletters, with Ron Paul's name right at the top. All of the articles in these newsletters either have Ron Paul as author or no byline at all (with the exception of a single issue with a guest writer). Unless TNR is making stuff up again, this isn't just RP followers or associates; this comes straight from his camp over the past twenty-plus years.
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it's guilt by authorship.
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If you think that it would be unfair to associate Ron Paul to the Ron Paul Political Report and the Ron Paul Financial Newsletter and the Ron Paul Survival Report, then yes this is most certainly guilt by association.
Personally I think that if you put your name to something that turns out to be wildly racist and homophobic and the strongest response you can say, after it has been published in an expose is.....
“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.
then perhaps you deserve to be associated with it.
FTR, his story on this has changed several times over the years.
There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why ... I dream of things that never were and ask why not. - Robert Kennedy
That alone is too much
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as guilt by association.
I for one call on Ron Paul to immediately disassociate from himself. If he does not straight away cut all ties, relations, and connections with himself I will cease to support him. I encourage all Ronulans to do the same.
Also see the following from Little Green Footballs on the Ron Paul connection to the white supremacist site Stormfront:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28353_Ron_Pauls_Photo-Op_w...
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28349_Ron_Paul_Forum_Conce...
Some of the comments were insensitive and some impolitic and some paranoid, but all were ghastly and inappropriate. He made Limbaugh look like a bleeding heart!
This will ensure that RP is just a very minor footnote in this race.
Sadly, I've heard similar comments from all too many co-workers, associates, (sadly) friends, and even folks I've met working on Republican campaigns.
I hear regularly the same nasty talk about Mexicans--not their legal status, mind you, but their personhood.
I was reminded of the whole Bill Clinton/Mena, Arkansas drug ring when the loony conspiracy talk was mentioned. I bet Paul bought into that, too.
Maybe we can have a constructive dialogue on race some day. Paul's past comments tell us he won't be at the table.
I'm worried this nut will run as a third party candidate. He's been raising a lot of money and it doesn't seem he's spending it on the primaries.
NYT retracted a similar story.
Anyway, James Kirchick already said its bs:
Anyways, I don’t think Ron Paul is a homophobe; I’m just cynical and enjoy getting supporters of political candidates riled up. If you were a Giuliani guy I’d have called him a fascist. But I must say, the Ron Paul supporters are the most enthusiastic of the bunch!
The NYT retracted not on any new revelations. They retracted because Ron Paul denied it, and that was that.
Also, it's not the same story at all. The fact that these articles exist and were published by Ron Paul is undeniable.
expose? I did not read your text, I don't care about Ron Paul. But I am amazed that a TNR expose could ever be taken as seriously by conservatives.
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And Doc, I read at least one of these articles as being from the RP Report *months* ago. Just one of the reasons I've been pushing the whole Nazi angle.
are citing an Anti-American left wing rag. I already know Paul is a loon, if he is now a racist loon, well, there you go.
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Hold onna them Confederate dollars, folks, the South will razz agin!
Romney 2008
The Liberty Dollar people have (well, until their FBI raid a little while ago) been around for quite some time. They minted their own silver and gold coins for precious metal bugs.
The Ron Paul dollar was just a marketing gimmick for them.
pretty crazy stuff.