Mike Huckabee redeemed on MTP [UPDATED]
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I am not bailing on Fred Thompson and won’t until after he completes his second term in office. But given that there is at least a 1% chance that Fred will not be our nominee, and since I like all our candidates, I want to accentuate the positive. (except for McCain…kidding)
I was very disappointed in much of Mike Huckabee’s Foreign Affairs essay, especially the part where he described President Bush’s foreign policy as “arrogant” with a “bunker mentality.”
The fact is that Bush spent too long at the United Nations but did get a large coalition of the willing to go to Iraq. Moreover, France and Germany have come to Bush’s position and the Democrats in this country have gone madly left due to no fault of the President.
I think most of the other criticisms of Huckabee on foreign policy have been overblown distortions.
I watched Huckabee face tough questions on all the above and more this morning and came away impressed and reassured that he would be a great Commander in Chief.
He sufficiently watered down the “arrogant, bunker mentality” claim against President Bush to make it seem more like a nuanced critique he could use to his advantage with world leaders. It was his “not 100%” for and against spin. He needed to do that. The fact is that France and Germany have come our way thanks to Bush’s persistence, and I would prefer that our candidates emphasize that, but it is useful to send a message that he would be MORE receptive to other ideas.
I agree with Huck on the connection between Pakistani dwelling jihadists and our open borders. I don’t care about the irrelevant mistake on the numbers arrested or the east or west error in the essay.
I want our enemies in Pakistan (and everywhere on Earth) to fear that we would use military force inside Pakistan to kill them and disrupt their safe havens even if the government there opposed it and even against CLAIMS our action would destabilize the country.
The situation is not stable now. It could be made stable if the Pakistani government waged full war on these same enemies that threaten them.
I don’t believe Huck would act recklessly, and I love it when our guys remind libs like Russert that protecting America is paramount and that killing terrorists in COUNTRIES THAT HAVE NOT ATTACKED US, is part of the GWOT!
Can anyone say Iraq?
Huck understands good and evil and the necessity of deterrence. This separates him from liberal Democrats and Ron Paul.
Huck also defended his Arkansas policies well.
And I thought he had toned down the class rhetoric and the anti-GOP rhetoric enough as regards reaching out to lower income families.
So now, its down to cigar smoking in bars!
[UPDATE]
Mark Kilmer agrees with Gamecock
On NBC's Meet the Press, host Tim Russert began by talking to Republican Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee. The candidate had dropped nine points in an MSNBC/McClatchy poll of Iowans. Huckabee offered that the polls were "all over the place," some have him leading, others trailing. To his credit, he did not burst into laughter when Russert, with a straight face, uttered the name "McClatchy." Let alone MSNBC. Russert asked if the commercials regarding Huckabee's record might have had some influence. Huckabee said that with the relentless attacks – "and they were relentless" – and the fact that he was outspend 21-1, "it's pretty amazing that I am where I am."
Russert asked if Mitt Romney had said anything about Huckabee which was untrue. Huckabee started the list. Mitt claimed that Huckabee had reduced Meth sentences in Arkansas when the truth is that he signed a bill in 1999 which doubled Meth sentences, which are four times greater than those in Romney's Massachusetts. Huckabee said that Romney accused him of giving "special breaks" to illegal immigrants. Actually, it was a bill concerning the children of such people who had "earned" scholarships, and it never made the legislature. Romney accused Huckabee of increasing spending "by some ridiculous amount," and even the New York Times "took him apart" on this false claim. Huckabee said that Romney's claim about tax increases was wrong because the tax increases in Arkansas were either court ordered or approved by the voters, such as the one to improve roads. Huckabee said that he left Arkansas with good roads, while Romney's "were a mess" in Massachusetts. Romney claims that he did not raise taxes, when actually he did raise taxes in the form of fees by a half-billion dollars.
He said that he raised taxes for "educational purposes" and for roads. (I take it, then, that he opposes abolishing the Department of Education.)
Foreign affairs. Huckabee said that in light of the events of the past few weeks, some of his remarks regarding Pak seem "almost prophetic." Russert grilled him about his pledge to use military strikes within Pakistan to rid it of al Qaeda. Russert averred that he would then destabilize the Musharraf regime and turn Pakistan over to the Taliban. Huckabee said the strike would not an effort to destabilize Musharraf. He predicted that the past week's activities would lead to a greater accountability of how our aid checks to Pakistan are being spent.
Russert asked him if it was worth destabilizing Musharraf to capture Osama bin Laden. Huckabee challenged the assertion that the U.S. strike would destabilize Musharraf. He said that if he were President, he would weigh all the information to determine whether it were worth the risk of destabilizing Pakistan if we could possibly "save American lives" and "take out al Qaeda's number one operative."
Huckabee explained his "close the borders to Pakistani illegals" comment in reaction to Bhutto's assassination by saying that he was trying to make the point that what happens in the world affects us here in the U.S. and that he wants to stop Pakistanis from crossing our borders with shoulder filed missiles in their briefcases.
When asked for an example of the President's "arrogant bunker mentality," Huckabee said it was Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld ignoring the advice of the generals and "arbitrarily" sending too few troops into Iraq. Huckabee pointed out that he's been more consistent in his support of the President when they agree, such as with the Surge. He said that Mitt Romney has been a "latecomer" in supporting the surge.
Huckabee defended his faith nicely against Russert's attacks.
It went on for a while. Russert's questions, while not softballs, were not as tough as some of the questions I've seen asked here at RedState. Huckabee did not implode, by any stretch, and handled himself well.
I also need to remind that I do strongly disagree with Huck's "Fair Tax" proposal that I think is unworkable, too regressive and unrealistic given the impossibility of repealing the 16th Amendment.
I am also reminded that Foreign policy experience genius John McCain agrees with Huck that Gitmo should be closed and all the prisoners brought here so they can file lawsuits. Both are wack on that.
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When you read the comments about Gov Huckabee (or even some of his own quotes) it's easy to come away with a negative impression. Every time I watch him in person, however, I come away more impressed with his pragmatism, leadership and communication abilities. I'm amazed that some on this site actually rank him at the bottom of their list, below even a kook like Ron Paul who doesn't even seem to believe that Pearl Harbor consistuted an attack worthy of responding to.
There is no perfect candidate, but any of the top five GOP contenders would be a huge improvement over the top Democratic candidates. My own list has Huckabee/Thompson at the top, followed by McCain. I could vote for Romney in a general election, but his constant exagerations and relentless attack ads have left me cold and have certainly not relieved my worries about the depth of his conviction on socially conservative issues. I could vote for Rudy as well, but his person character and social conservatism place him at the bottom of my list.
I'm immune to the Huckatrance. Did he answer any of the major policy issues that Penj brought forward in his front page analysis?
How exactly will toe the line between too much and too little democracy export? Energy independance? Military spending? etc, etc, etc.
Russert, the pit bull that he is, went after Huck, and Huck survived. He was not great, but he kept his air of authenticity and honesty under a barrage of challenging questions.
Tell me who else held their breath when Huck had to answer what the majority of Muslims were in Pakistan... He seemed like he almost guessed. If so, he guessed correctly.
Fortunately, for Huck the headline changed from what could have been (Huck bombs on foreign policy with Russert) to what will be (Huck slams Romney for being dishonest).
Huck seems to be campaigning two things: (1) Presidential Nomination and (2) Vice-Presidential Nomination. The way he has laid off on Rudy and sticking up for McCain is very telling.
Altogether I thought it was a fine performance, but not a great one. And I do support Huck.
Huckabee did well this morning. His "performance" though, was just that--political theater. He was prepped to answer as he did, to deflect what needed to be deflected, to clarify what needed clarifying, to backtrack where needed. I guess I am more like the female version of mbecker--I don't appreciate someone who has to spend his time spinning all over the place. Give me someone who takes a position and stands up for it. Of course it helps if they take the right position in the first place.
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...wouldn't you prefer a nice-sized plate of pan-browned new redskin potatoes and sweet onions sauteed to a caramel brown color with a good slab of country ham on the side? Along with eggs scrambled with a 4-cheese mix and maybe some biscuits? Conservative eatin', baby, get you some!
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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start heading west. Oh, and bring those nasty noodles with you. I've got a dog who will eat ANYTHING.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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I may need to walk up and listen to ours more closely--could have sworn they said "doodle" instead of "doddle." Difference in regional chicken accents perhaps?
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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"Hey (Fred, Mitt, etc.) we have MTP in a few days, do you want to prepare for this nationally televised interview with one of the toughest interviewers in politics, Tim Russert?"--Campaign Consultant
"Nah, I think I will just shoot from the hip and answer the best way I know how, from the knowledge in my head."
OF COURSE IT IS A PERFORMANCE. However, last week Huck managed to piss a lot of you off (on FTN), because he articulated how he planned to campaign on issues that will inspire voters who do not traditionally vote Republican.
My simple point is, the headline from this interview is going to be Romney's dishonest campaign, according to Huckabee, instead of "Huckabee's foreign policy gaffes continue."
Additionally, this is response to Russert... who by the way was so much easier on Obama than he was on Huck. I usually like Russert's ability to hold all candidates accountable for their record, but I was really disappointed with him today.
gamecock I think your analysis of redemption is comparing Huck today to the Huck on MTP a few weeks ago. What happens if we compare Huck of the 12/30/07 MTP to Fred of the 12/30/07 FNS?
Huck taking the bait from Russert to attack Mitt Romney.
MR. RUSSERT: But has Mitt Romney said anything that's untrue about you?
GOV. HUCKABEE: How long do we have on the program today? He's said many things that are untrue.
Fred refusing to take the bait from Chris to attack Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.
WALLACE: Straight out, do you think that Mike Huckabee is prepared to be commander in chief?
THOMPSON: Well, I'm not going to throw a — that kind of a large blanket over Mike or anybody else. I will say that people are going to have to make up their own minds. I'm not sure politicians are the best critics of their colleagues on matters like this.
I just say take a look at everybody. Take a look at the experience and what they're saying.
WALLACE: Let me ask you about the other person who's leading you in the polls. Do you think Mitt Romney is prepared to be president and has a consistent record as a conservative?
THOMPSON: Difficult to pin Mitt down as to exactly what he does fundamentally believe and which of those beliefs he would stick with through thick and thin in the future when the strong winds are blowing.
Now, as far as — it's not for me to judge a person's fitness. It's just objectively clear that Mitt does not have any foreign relation experience and doesn't have any experience with dealing with matters of national security.
He's got vast experience in the business community, been very successful, and I'm sure he's been a good manager. So all of us have things to bring to the table.
Comparing the two I appreciated Fred's interview skills much more than I did Huck's.
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
Compare the two and you find that the press likes Huckabee more, in my opinion, because they have the possibility of a more exciting show with a candidate who is prone to stepping in it regularly and who doesn't hesitate to attack his opponents tooth and nail. On the other hand, Mr. Thompson only offers his positions and principles and refuses to give them headlines by attacking his fellow candidates.
Mike Huckabee is a candidate first and a person second. With Fred, the order is reversed.
mistakenly stated that Fred accused Huck of blameAmericaFirstism.
I would say that Fred, unlike Huck, has not been attacked in TV ads 24/7 in Iowa.
Thanks for the transcript links bro and your wise words.
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Or Romney will be left defining Huck, McCain and any other opponent he chooses to run endless ads against.
Guns don't kill people, abortions kill people.
Huck's explanation of "bunker mentality" made no sense whatsoever. It was in fact a transparent dodge.
I suppose we all have our own perceptions but what I saw was a man who is skillfully glib and deceptively vicious. Those characteristics served him very well today and this interview probably did indeed restore some of his gloss.
I was all set to watch Fred this morning but dozed off in the middle of it.
It is monarchical and aristocratical government only that requires ignorance for its support.
- Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1792
Here are some of my comments from Mark's wrap-up
Not one question about his ethical violations.
Not one question about his pardons and commutations.
No challenge of his "executive experience claim"
No follow up on issues with spending and taxes
At least 5 minutes without being interrupted rant about Romney
No questions about the McCain/Huckabee strategy after his promotion of McCain
Russert showed how Huckabee had flip-flopped on immigration but let him give a weak answer and didn't follow up afterwards
Let him get answer a tough "bunker mentality" question by deflecting the question with criticism of Romney
How again was this a tough interview? Compared to the Guiliani and Romney interviews this was absolutely a cakewalk.
* PRIESTCRAFT is thus defined: “The stratagem and frauds of priests; fraud or imposition in religious concerns. Management of selfish and ambitious priests to gain wealth and power, or to impose upon the credulity of others.”
same with all of the Guiliani accusations and Romney accusations. That has never stopped Russert before that's why I thought it was strange.
* PRIESTCRAFT is thus defined: “The stratagem and frauds of priests; fraud or imposition in religious concerns. Management of selfish and ambitious priests to gain wealth and power, or to impose upon the credulity of others.”
I've been leaning Huck for a month or so and I think he did OK.
I do think that due to time constraints Russert was A LOT softer than most interviews on MTP. He didn't have time to follow up on anything. If Russert can ask Guiliani about a fake mistress accounting story, and can ask Romney about all his flip-flops for political expediency, then he should ask Huck about his mis-steps as governor.
As a soft supporter of Huck, I WANT to see how he addresses these legitimate problems with his record. They are going to come up again if he wins.
I agree fast 200--Russert should have asked Huck more questions about his Arkansas days. However, I think that Russert only had a half hour with Huck (as opposed to the full hour that he had with the other Republican candidates), because Obama was also on MTP. So, because of the limited time, I think that Russert had to ask Huck questions on the most topical issues--such as Huck's comments regarding Pakistan, the "Christian leader" rap, etc. By the way, if I remember correctly, when Huck was on FNS around Thanksgiving, Chris Wallace asked him questions about his Arkansas days ad nauseam. However, I do agree that it couldn't have hurt to have Russert ask Huck those same questions again.
On a side note, I also agree with Gamecock, in that Huck gave a really solid performance today on MTP.
Huck's our savior!
Thanks to MTP, it has been revealed that that nasty lying brother of Satan, Mitt Romney, has unfairly and unjustly smeared the perfect conservative bona fides of the One True Candidate, Michael Huckabee.
Pardon me while I throw up.
Huckabee isn't any less liberal after MTP than he was before--and that's plenty liberal. Romney has his own challenges in this regard, but it's amazing to me that Huck can defend his own outrageously liberal record with a straight face--and some conservatives nod stupidly and drink it down.
Don't be deceived. Ten years of a Huckabee governorship has demonstrated beyond all doubt that Huckabee thinks that "compassionate conservatism" on the taxpayer dime is not just a great idea--it's what Jesus wants.
As a person well-versed in what the former mayor accomplished in NYC, and as a federal prosecutor, it's getting frustrating watching the (current) focus fall on a shallow, ill-prepared neophyte (Huckabee), a politician in the classic sense of the word (Romney), and a war vet who is only a foreign policy Republican (McCain.) The only two candidates who has offered concrete plans once in office has been Giuliani and Fred Thompson (my #2). It speaks very poorly on voters that they aren't demanding concrete plans once in office, instead of the usual political platitudes and election-time rhetoric.
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satisfied me on judges/life. Rudy abandoned Iowa, NH and SC. He has been a terrible campaigner. I think he would be a great president but his wait till Sunshine and Super Tuesday strategy was stupid.
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This is why I've always said I trust him on defense policy and not just social conservatism. His gaffes recently have shown me that his base of knowledge is weak, not that his instincts are bad. Still, a President should have a wider base of knowledge then the man does at this point--but somehow, I think six months on the Presidential trail would solve that problem easily.
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