How many U.S. elections are decided by illegals?
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And what would it take for an elected republican, defeated by illegals republican or conservative pundit other than the Wall Street Journal's John Fund or the Charlotte Observer's Mike "Gamecock" DeVine to make an issue of it?
It has been nine days since the Eve of All Hallow's Eve Democratic Party debate 2007 when Mrs. Bill Clinton refused to let America know if she agreed with allowing illegal aliens to obtain drivers' licenses and register to vote under New York State's Motor-Voter law.
All of Hillary's rivals were cool with it except for one lower tier candidate from Connecticut.
It has been five days since John Fund revealed that:
The next day she took a firmer stand (sort of) by offering general support for Gov. Spitzer's approach, but adding that she hadn't studied his specific plan. She should, and so should the rest of us. It stops just short of being an engraved invitation for people to commit voter fraud.
The background here is the National Voter Registration Act, commonly known as "Motor Voter," that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1993. It required all states to offer voter registration to anyone getting a driver's license. One simply fills out a form and checks a box stating he is a citizen; he is then registered and in most states does not have to show any ID to vote.
But no one checks if the person registering to vote is indeed a citizen. That greatly concerns New York election officials, who processed 245,000 voter registrations at DMV offices last year. "It would be [tough to catch] if someone wanted to . . . get a number of people registered who aren't citizens and went ahead and got them drivers' licenses," says Lee Daghlian, spokesman for New York's Board of Elections. Assemblywoman Ginny Fields, a Long Island Democrat, warns that the state's "Board of Elections has no voter police" and that the state probably has upwards of 500,000 illegal immigrants old enough to drive.
If the Long Island Democrat is only part right, New York is a blue state.
Fund continues:
The potential for fraud is not trivial, as federal privacy laws prevent cross-checking voter registration rolls with immigration records. Nevertheless, a 1997 Congressional investigation found that "4,023 illegal voters possibly cast ballots in [a] disputed House election" in California.
Multiply that by the remaining California congressional districts and the Golden State is amber.
Fund, relentlessly continues (Can our GOP President, elected leaders in congress and 2008 presidential nominees hear Fund?):
After 9/11, the Justice Department found that eight of the 19 hijackers were registered to vote.
The above constitutes subversion of government by the consent of the governed.
It’s quite a bit more important than:
a) Whether Hillary can take the heat of a debate (she can);
b) Whether Hillary wants to have it both ways and "triangulate" but just can't lie as well as her husband (she does and she can't); and/or
c) Whether the conventional wisdom that Hillary had the nomination locked up was wrong (who cares? Not this Rooster.)
I care about two things coming out of the debate and the explosive WSJ column: America and the Democratic Party's ongoing subversion of same.
Since the first cry of "bushlied" in late 2003 through Osama bin Laden's extensive use of elected Democratic Party leaders' quotes in his latest video this year, I have observed that Democrats say and do for free what al Qaeda, Saddam's lawyers and Iran's mullahs would gladly pay them to say and do.
Fund's facts and Hillary & Co.'s support for Motor-Voter, opposition to Voter ID laws and support for activist judges that make law (see write new constitutions), add up to how Democrats subvert self government here at home as well.
Isn't it astounding that all but Christopher Dodd (and who really believes that he actually opposes the subversion. Didn't he just decide he didn't care to be VP on a losing ticket?) among the Democratic Party candidates would not denounce a law that allows illegals to pick our leaders in elections here as well as pick leaders in their home countries and have a free pass to visit any place in America, like say, airports, Hoover Dam and nuclear power plants.
Did Muhammad Atta cast a vote for Bush or Gore?
Yet, despite the gifts from Tim Russert and The Trail of John Fund, silence on all but beltway irrelevancies from our Republican heroes.
The dirty little secret is that the Democratic party CANNOT oppose Motor-Voter and cannot abide Voter ID without committing political suicide.
The silent conservative majority and its elected leaders can remain silent no longer.
It was a great moment in American history when Richard Nixon conceded the 1960 election despite more grounds for a contest than Al Gore had in 2000.
And it was a great moment of shame when Al Gore rescinded a concession in 2000 after Florida and possibly forever poisoned our political processes.
Well, 2000 is over. Bush won.
Now, let's make sure America wins.
The GOP en masse and all Americans that care about our constitution must demand the following:
1) That a photo ID be required in all federal elections;
2) That all voter rolls be purged of illegals, dawgs and the dead; and
3) That Motor-Voter be repealed.
The overwhelming majority of Americans, New Yorkers and even rank and file Democrats oppose drivers licenses for illegals and support voter ID.
And all but a Fifth Column oppose allowing illegals to vote for America's leaders.
This is THE STORY. This is the path for the silent conservative majority to actually govern The Fruited Plain.
It’s the way to victory for the GOP in 2008.
Let the battle cry go out now! Rather than wait to whine in '09!
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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a hint. The House, Senate, and POTUS were all controlled by the same political party at that time.
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
for Democrats to win national elections. I NEVER understood why GWB and the Republicans ignored voter fraud in WI, NM, LA, MO, WA, and SD in 2000, concentrating entirely on FL. I KNOW, that winning FL cinched the election, however, widespread voter fraud in all of those states, could have shifted all of them to GWB. MORE importantly, uncovering the voter fraud in those states would have guaranteed that the voters in those states were not disenfranchised by illegal votes.
Obviously not all of that voter fraud was illegal aliens. Mostly it was dead, and fictitious voters -- dogs, cats felons. A number of precincts in large cities enjoyed 100 or more voter participation -- and motor voter was a contributor to this.
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Considering where the good doctor's head was, when practicing medicine, is it any wonder that the man has issues?
Voters". Does anyone know how to find a link to the original Congressional investigation? I have had posters from California, tell me that it can't happen, their controls are too good.
A Congressional investigation found evidence that 624 votes were indeed cast by non-citizens and an additional 124 were improper absentee votes,[citation needed] but these votes were not enough to throw Sanchez's victory into doubt so the investigation was halted and the outcome was upheld by a Republican-controlled Congress,[3] making Sanchez the first Latina to represent Orange County in Congress. Dornan continues to assert that he won the election, due to illegal voter registration of non-Americans who then cast ballots for Sanchez in the election. Up to 4,023 illegal voters were reported to have cast ballots in the 46th congressional district election, according to a 1996 Immigration and Nationalization Service investigation into the alleged election fraud.[citation needed] However, as Article I Section V of the Constitution of the United States provides that "Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members" the investigation was without legal authority.
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Considering where the good doctor's head was, when practicing medicine, is it any wonder that the man has issues?
I love John Fund, I miss him on the John Batchelor show, he was on almost every night! You and he are right on the money with this issue.
gets around with Hewitt, Prager, Medved, et al.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
The NY county I reside just elected a DA who supports Spitzer's plan and has said so. He was endorsed by the PBA and Democrat candidate for Sheriff (who lost) since they believe Spitzer's plan will make cops "safer" when pulling over cars. For those of you reading this twice and saying "huh?", people in this county obviously did not even attempt that level of intellectual intervention. They have not quite figured out that if current law is actually enforced and we stop providing gratuitous taxpayer funded incentives it may just help solve the problem. What a novel idea!
This would be a perfect case in which the voter roles should be examined to determine if any fraud has taken place. But no one really has the stones and folks will sit and watch as more potential fraud is created by Spitzer's ridiculous quest, Clinton's support, law enforcement that doesn't care and county government which sees eternal existence in policies that subvert the law and vitiate our rights.
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At first, I worried that by issuing licenses to illegal immigrants, we were being too accommodating. But then I heard about police chiefs who supported the idea because they wanted a way to keep track of those who use our roads and make sure that drivers have proper training and insurance. I also realized that the unlicensed and uninsured are more likely to flee the scene of an accident. And so it made sense to me to bring illegal immigrant drivers into the system.
But I still didn't think that whatever license that illegal immigrants carry in their wallets should look similar to the traditional driver's license carried by the rest of us – especially given the additional security concerns that arose after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Those concerns, however, help make the case for driver's licenses for illegal immigrants despite the insistence of those who argue the opposite is true.
Sounds to me like it would be as much of a scam as mandatory liability insurance. As we found out the hard way (but thank God we had uninsured driver coverage), people get insurance coverage for whatever month they need to renew licenses, registration, etc., then drop it immediately afterward. In the case where we got hit hit, Liberty Mutual was out around 15 grand. I don't see how it's any much different than if the guy had walked into a bank with a gun and demanded 15K in cash.
Great blog.
about illegals and dead dogs and multi-registrants voting, but I am also suspicious of the hijackers being registered to vote.
Please see footnote 91 on the link:
http://gop.cha.house.gov/hearings/Testimony.aspx?TID=941
If I am wrong, please feel free to correct me.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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