To be a democrat is to be guilty by association
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By Mike DeVine, Legal Editor for The Minority Report and The HinzSight Report
I'm not sure is defamed more by association, Obama or Che'?
To BE a DEMOCRAT and associate oneself with that vile, intellectually and morally bankrupt party is to compromise one's good name; be a front man for the kooks; fund or lend credibility to their race-based, class-envy, anti-American, unpatriotic enemy-emboldening speech of their leaders; by one's silence to acquiesce in same; and to be a part of big lies.
The big lies? That repubs will take yo' sosh security; take yo' chile's lunch money; cause mo' black churches to burn; kill James Byrd all over again; to quote John Lewis, let them [repubs] come for yo' children; blood for oil, ad nauseum lies ad infinitum.
And they say we play on people's fears?
Spare me.
These Obama associations with far left racist kooks and hippie 60's heroes are not limited to Obamas. The whole damn party winks at them. The whole party is in denial with an MSM covering. It's the pathologies, one and two
They are sick, and I mean to call out the good Dems and challenge to leave that Party now.
Thomas Jefferson is Dead.
Andrew Jackson. Dead.
Grover Cleveland. He's passed away.
FDR. Gone.
Truman. He is no more.
JFK. At King Arthur's Court in Camelot.
None of the above would be welcomed by today's donkeys.
Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman, and our own Susannah, ITS TIME TO STOP CALLING YOURSELF A DEMOCRAT.
No one was more yellow dawg than this rooster. I voted for Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton twice and even Gore.
After the age of 37, I decided I could no more associate with that party than I could child pornographers.
I have nothing but utter contempt for what the party long ago became and IS NOW.
No more excuses. No more denial. No more putting JFK qualifiers. That party died when JFK was killed.
I challenge you to LEAVE THE PARTY PEOPLE. It doesn't matter what Grandma was and is.
Look in the mirror.
Then look at what Frank Church & Co did to the Hmong and the South Vietnamese. Look at what Carter did to the Shah. Look at what Ted Kennedy did attempting to sabotage Reagan's missile strategy with Russians behind Reagan's back. Look at their aid and comfort to Ortega and against freedom fighters in Nicaragua. Look at the James Byrd ad. Look at its all about sex. Look at bushlied. Look at votes to cut off funds to troops in the field.
Look at what Carter, Clinton, Dem majorities in congress and Dem senate filibuster minorities have done since 1978 to sabotage the US's ability to provide for its own energy.
Finally, look at what democrats have routinely said and done for free since 911 that UBL, Saddam's lawyers and the Iranian mullahs would have gladly paid them to do.
How can anyone call themselves a Democrat? Do Christians stay in Satanic churches in hopes of converting them?
No.
I am ashamed I stayed in that party for 18 years of adulthood.
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Just as he was spooked by Soviets, Ayatollas and people taller than him.
He was a small man.
He fell for the leftist greenies BS, thought he could deal with the religious mullah, was an anti-semite and was such an ignorant arogant ass that he wouldn't return Tip's phone calls.
But yes, he advocated things.
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You are too young to remember the assassination, I had just turned 12 myself. There was a framing of the narrative about this event that needs to be called out. A good place to start is to read this interview NRO's John Miller had with James Peireson. Here is just a snippet:
MILLER: Lee Harvey Oswald was a Communist. Have liberals been reluctant to accept this fact? And is their reluctance at the heart of all the conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination?
PIERESON: Liberals who were rational and realistic accepted the fact that Oswald killed JFK but at the same time they were unable to ascribe a motive for his actions. They tended to look for sociological explanations for the event and found one in the idea that JFK was brought down by a “climate of hate” that had overtaken the nation. Thus they placed Kennedy’s assassination within a context of violence against civil rights activists. They had great difficulty accepting the fact that Kennedy’s death was linked to the Cold War, not to civil rights. Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr., in his 1,000-page history of the Kennedy administration, published in 1965, could not bring himself to mention Oswald’s name in connection with Kennedy’s death, though he spent several paragraphs describing the hate-filled atmosphere of Dallas at the time — suggesting thereby that Kennedy was a victim of the far right. The inability to come to grips with the facts of Kennedy’s death pointed to a deeper fault in American liberalism which was connected to its decline.
MILLER: It’s like that line from “Sympathy for the Devil,” by the Rolling Stones: “I shouted out, ‘Who killed the Kennedys?’/When after all, it was you and me.”
PIERESON: Yes, that song reflected a deep belief in liberal culture, that somehow “we” had killed the Kennedy’s — when in fact an anti-American Communist killed President Kennedy and a Palestinian nationalist killed Robert Kennedy, both in retaliation for American policies abroad. Oswald killed President Kennedy to interrupt his efforts to eliminate Castro; Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy because of Kennedy’s support for Israel. The irrationality of this belief was connected to the unraveling of liberalism, demonstrating that liberalism was not the rational doctrine that it claimed to be.
Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business … frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise.Ronald Reagan
that must explain it
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Classic liberalism that is, most of which was absorbed into what we call conservatism today.
What replaced it is variously called, leftism; modern day liberalism; progresivism (see communism and socialism); and
VILE.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RichLowry/2007/08/02/how_the_jfk_assa...
Lowry quotes Pierson
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/06/jfk_neocon.html
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The practice of framing the narrative of a major event did not just happen with all the KnownFacts™ "Bushlied" "bloodforoil" in the past 7 years. The "America is EVIL" blame America FIRST because of hateful Americans is the narrative that was framed immediately following the Kennedy assassinations by high brow writers like Arthur Schlesinger and low brow rockers like Mick Jagger. Nobody was called out for being dishonest, and people grew up believing every bad thing that was said about America.
Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business … frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise.Ronald Reagan
agree with Walter Cronkite and that one of the main reasons for Rush's success was that he said things we all thought all along.
And the GOP was content to get invited to G-town parties and get good tee times from Tip.
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I surged back to a 'defense of Mick Jagger' by Vladimir here. Cronkite and Schlesinger definitely are guilty of framing the narrative for blame America first. Jagger may have just been mocking liberals, and they didn't even have a clue.
Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business … frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise.Ronald Reagan
It gets used every year in coverage of Fashion Week, even though it's clearly a scathing attack on the whole idea of fashion.
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But got a page denied.
In any case, great uppercut GC. The democrats can't turn the mirror to look at themselves honestly and objectively. And we have to win our fellows one by one as the media won't do it. And it is difficult to turn that mirror, as we live within the social upbringing of our parents. I've broken free to see a different light on the world. Yes, mankind has the capability of good and evil in itself...some choose good and some choose evil. Laws are established to punish the evil, but in our current society they more than often punish the good. The limits on freedom continue to grow leap and bound.
In any case, my current project is my sister in law, who is a smart, capable woman who hasn't yet seen the folly of her ways. She is upset that Clinton didn't make it due to sexism from the media and Obama's circle. And that is true, that is how the Dems normally unite...but not this year.
Again, it is also interesting that Hans Pritcher (blog on right now) has seen that markets work. I'll keep working on her because it takes all of us in writing, talking and debating to show the importance of conservative views. Freedom allows each of us to pick our goals.
Age and wisdom bring conservatism to most. However, the ladder of society seems to bring lower income and top income (Hollywood) voters to the Democratic party.
Wow, that's a lot of writing. Perhaps I should have written a blog.
Thanks GC!
Erik
be as impenetrable by lies as kevlar!
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But...I need Ironman armor in today's society.
And...why hasn't McCcain's Slate improved today based on his SCOTUS statements?
GC, I know we all have our problems with the guy...jeez, I started out as the anti-illegal immigration Luke Skylwaker. But, he made good comments today. Man, this site shows...no love, no help, no consideration. Now I am depressed.
Ah, we'll get through it.
Erik
followed up on his immediate reaction congratulating his morally superior self about Gitmo.
BTW, I am increasingly optimistic that Bush will improve upon his first mealymouth reacion too, and release those gitmo grads where we found them on the battlefield and then proceed where we left off...bang bang
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If one or more of the "hers" in your comment were in reference to my humble self, let me assure you that I am manifestly male.
As to your point, you are welcome to try. I came here to learn and my mind is open. You'll have far more luck in economic matters than in social ones or in foreign policy. I will go to my grave with much the same views I hold now on those two, and I cannot afford to vote for a Republican based on them.
And just have more time to comment now. Not to comment on the "hers" - that is just my wonderful, discussing, argumentive wife...she is awesome. In any case...
I appreciate your bicycle riding...and would wish I could do more myself to get to work. In fact, a debate of contention here is moving closer to town to fight the gas costs. 40-45 miles from work for both.
Economic matters, social matters and foreign policy matters are all interrelated. It comes down to PRINCIPLE. Think long about this. You have finally decided that your principles rely on individual choice rather than government edict... And I look forward to your reply.
Erik
"To BE a DEMOCRAT and associate oneself with that vile, intellectually and morally bankrupt party is to compromise one's good name; be a front man for the kooks; fund or lend credibility to their race-based, class-envy, anti-American, unpatriotic enemy-emboldening speech of their leaders; by one's silence to acquiesce in same; and to be a part of big lies."
I prefer our leadership to yours. I prefer our ideological goals to yours. I prefer our temperment. I prefer our foreign policy.
I could forgive a lot of that if I didn't get the distinct impression that many members of your party think I'm going to hell for my (somewhat dismayed and reluctant but still willfull and real) support of a woman's right to an abortion, if I didn't get the distinct impression that many members of your party are entirely too happy to repeat the errors of prior hegemons. I could go on. I won't.
I have three choices. I can support the party that I agree with more than I don't. I can support the party that I agree with one time in ten. I can support neither and vote as I will from time to time. In this matter I will support the party that seeks to make the world more as I would like it, as I have reasoned it needs to be.
Pragmatism, not cowardice nor exposure to taint.
Speaking as someone who had to vote for John Kerry, I take your point very well.
I still cannot fathom how hard it is for so many of the party's leaders to get that their base does not support the war and does not want a standard bearer who voted for it. I'm willing to get into a scrape if the cause be just. We shouldn't hide in your skirts because we're scared of saying something risky.
I'm disappointed that those I voted for (Sherrod Brown for example) were not able to deliver what they promised on the war. I am displeased that they are allowing it to continue for political benefit (that's not the only reason, and some of them like Biden vote as they do for honorable reasons).
I voted for them because I don't want my uncle to go back over there. I didn't want one of my closest friends who I knew would finally finish his JAG training to have to go. I don't believe that this occupation serves any good purpose at this point.
I don't care that this is an unpopular sentiment here. I am hardly alone in this position and I expect those I vote into office to do what they say, or at least fail in a faithful effort. Silly, I know.
Democrats don't have a lock on disappointment from their elected officials though.
which has a GOP majority but very few real conservatives among them. Some of them were Southern Democrats earlier in this decade.
Most politicians start out self-serving. The few that don't generally wind up that way, or they leave in disgust, or they get beaten by someone who's willing to sink a little lower than they are.
There are a few people in the Congress I truly esteem. Russ Feingold comes immediately to mind. Joe Biden is another. I respect Arlen Spector and John Voinovich. However, that's a pretty short list. There's a few in the House like Barney Frank, but you're getting the idea. Out of 535 I would probably be willing to have a beer with ten or twelve. That's pretty depressing.
In one episode of "The West Wing," he commented about someone from his own party, saying, "I don't think much of guys who run for Congress just because they think it's a great gig."
We'd never nominate a Josiah Bartlett. Too overtly religious. Too willing to tell his friends what they need to hear but don't want to.
mouth, from which escaped the words, "we will make Heaven on Earth" refutes you.
But I assume we can agree, given your disdain for "overt religiosity" that Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln...and even FDR and JFK could not be nominated by the jack asses any more than a Bartlett, considering...
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkcivilrights.htm
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/gamecock/2008/jun/06/when_democrats_not_na...
http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/fdr-prayer.htm
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There is no hope.
John
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Why would God invent something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course.
to eat at night.
That's a quote.
So you could "forgive" a lot of "that" if you didn't ASSume that we think you are going to Hell, yet your party ASSumes we want children to starve.
What is "that"? What is there to "forgive" from one from the "tolerant" and "diverse" un-values party. A party I was leader in for 18 years. I can't be fooled, but fortunately you gave your elitist self away.
What prior hegemons? Woodrow Wilson is the only one that comes close in American history.
You refute nothing I say. You speak in generalities. You must. The policies you favor are all proven failures. Even Obama agrees as he says only HE can cause America to care for the sick and feed the hungry for the FIRST time (all while he slows and lowers the oceans - see Moses, but no, he only parted a river).
You want the world to be a way that it cannot, yet you hold the nation and its principles that has produced unprecedented liberty and prosperity in world history because its not the utopia you think man without God can make. Yet all other nations get a pass since we either "allow" them to fail or are its direct cause by our actions.
Yes, I know you well. You are why I left that putrid sinkhole the 60s hippies and elitists ruined.
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in Soviet times. The potential "Breadbasket of the World" was rendered a basket case because of the failure of collectivized farms and the complete absence of a modern distribution system.
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that the leadership of your party cares not one whit about ANYTHING that you care about. They use things like that to divide people, to drive people to their arms by evoking fear and hatred.
The goal of the Democrat Party leadership is to take power and exercise control over the people. It is that simple. They have no special interest in saving the environment, OR giving a woman the right to choose. What they ARE interested is a nanny-state where YOU need THEM and they get to pick what rights and freedoms people have.
The leadership of MY party is a bunch of panty-waists, I'll grant you that. But that is one of the things RedState is working to change.
But one party works to free Americans, and the other works to drive Americans into bondage.
Unfair. Unbalanced. Unmedicated. -- IMAO
available only to dreamers and liberals.
Communism promises Utopia -- From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. In theory, Utopia, in practice Hell on Earth.
Liberalism promises Utopia -- ditto!
You prefer your "ideological goals." Bravo! The ideological goal of liberalism is Utopia (SEE ABOVE)
Conservative practice and thought might not seem as idealistic as liberalism, but it does have one advantage -- IT WORKS!
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When I was your age....heck, I was NEVER your age
I definitely don't consider myself a Democrat anymore--especially not after they condoned sexism during this election cycle. Furthermore, Donna Brazile and Howard Dean so much as told me that that they don't want my vote, so I will give it to John McCain--I assume that he does want it. However, I, like Han Pritcher, am more liberal than a lot of Republicans are on the social issues. For instance, I am pro-choice during the first trimester, but am against abortion after that, unless it is for the health or life of the mother. I also don't have a problem with gay marriage--I think that marriage is good for society and that gay people adopt kids that no one else wants. However, I am open to Republicans trying to win me over and I probably wouldn't have been before this election. :-)
Wow, I'm pretty moderate myself. I don't know what science can tell us about cognition in the first trimester and I don't know that I want to look. I'm pretty mdoerate myself on the social issues...for me it's kind of squishy. And I've mentioned the same to Democratic siblings. I can't personally consider a cell a thinking person. But, Obama's made his bed in allowing death after a mistake abortion - BIAPC (sp?) act he voted against.
I'm not sure that gay people adopt kids that no one else wants as government is in control of the process. In a free society, the rules would be lighter and all could benefit from helping their neighbors raising children.
Erik
Yes I agree with you that Obama's position on the Born Alive Infants Protection Act was pretty despicable. Anyway, I'm not voting for him. :-)
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So long as its done two car length's behind my Chrysler.
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Glad I could make your day Gamecock. Love you too. :-)
I can't imagine anybody in GOP leadership shooting straight like this. Not even in a GOP-onlu, leaders-only meeting. This party os so infested with cowardice it makes me sick.
Unfair. Unbalanced. Unmedicated. -- IMAO
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The free exchange of ideas inevitably yields both heat and light.
As a great American said;
"... I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us! ... Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power.... Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave ... ... Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason toward my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings."
Patrick Henry