Freedom's Watch's Full-Page Ad Against Ahmadinejad and Columbia in Monday's NY Times
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[promoted from diaries by haystack...this needs to be seen...]
No word yet whether the NY Times gave Freedom's Watch the MoveOn.org price, although FW requested it.
Here is the text of the advertisement:
Ahmadinejad is a terrorist.
Columbia University is wrong to give him a platform.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threatens our nation and the freedoms we value. He has supported attacks on our soldiers and our allies.
He should be treated as the terrorist that he is.
Yet, while Columbia gives a terrorist like Ahmadinejad a platform to speak, they refuse to allow the ROTC on campus.
What has happened to this prestigious university?
People who support killing Americans are welcome. But the military that defends them is not.
Columbia should be ashamed of its actions.
Freedom’s Watch knows that America and the forces of freedom are right. We know the threat of terrorism is real.
And we know democracy must prevail.
The terrorists and their appeasers are wrong.
SUPPORT FREEDOM'S WATCH
Stand up for Freedom and those who defend it.
Surrender is not an option. Victory is America's only choice.
Visit www.freedomswatch.org or call 877-222-8001
Cross-posted at www.win-the-war.com
After Ahmadinejad finishes at Columbia, maybe Stanford University will bring him on as a Visiting Fellow to one of their Institutes. I'm quite sure he'll get a warmer welcome than Donald Rumsfeld has, especially from the Psychology department.
I challenge Stanford University to do the right thing and bring him aboard.
:-)
Everytime an edit occurs to a promoted blog, it falls back to blog. Security you know...I can only stay up so long tonight, re-promoting...
heh
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
sorry for editing. Didn't realize it would have that effect.
And thanks for posting it to the front page.
the Moveon price. I saw the head of Freedom's Watch on FoxNews yesterday. They weren't sure that they would get the ad to run on Monday, though, but it looks like it will.
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
But if this is what it takes to get the message in front of the clueless masses, then so be it.
Also, the NYT has a certain prestige, whether we like it or not, and carries weight in many influential circles.
Of course they have good accountants that don't make 80K mistakes.
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-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
I'm actually considering buying the NYT for once in my life.
I had to really sit down and think about this for a couple of days before I could pull my thoughts together. Even now, I'm not positive that I'll get my point across in the matter that I intend, but I'm going to try my best.
I HATE Ahmadinejad. I wish the most horrible things on him and anyone who willingly supports him. He scares the living crap out of me. He's the kind of guy who causes me to lose sleep the way that Saddam never could.
That being said, I want him to speak at Columbia. I want him to have hours and hours of uninterrupted time to speak all that is on his mind. I want every person in this country listening to every word he has to say. Intently listening. I'd be sorely disappointed if Columbia rescinded its invitation.
You all know why I want this, don't you? Because he's coming to spew his hate in OUR house. Right in our faces. I'll savor every second of it because there's no way anyone will be able to defend what he says. He's coming to thumb his nose at us and get us riled up.
Let the man speak. Nothing unites like having a common enemy.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
www.race42008.com
www.hinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
he won't spew hatred for this country in his speech at Columbia. He will try to seem very, very reasonable. It will all be BUSH, the evil BUSH who is the cause of all the world's problems. AND THE COLUMBIA AUDIENCE WILL EAT IT UP!!
Iran is simply misunderstood -- Iran is peaceful and it is all Bush and the Jews!
He WON'T call for the destruction of Israel or of the US, but instead will appeal to the concerned people of the US to talk the evil BUSH into leaving the peaceful people of Iran alone.
Of course, he will HINT that if BUSH attacks Iran, the poor people of his country will have no alternative but to retaliate in the only way available to them -- and he will be reluctantly forced to send thousands of suicide martyrs to this country.
He will never admit his support of terrorism around the world, and will never be asked. He will not admit the bombs and weapons being sent to kill Americans in Iraq, and will not be asked.
He will present himself as a reasonable, peaceloving man, misunderstood by the people and attacked by BUSH!
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the flag defamation law. I'm against the law because burning the flag has the primary effect on me of letting me know who the Jackasses are that are willing to actually burn it. And I don't forget.
Unfortunately, I'll be very surprised to see Ineedadinnerjacket burning any flag but one with Bush's picture on it.
at Columbia is Democrat talking points. The man is a monster but he's not a fool, not by a long shot. The 'death to America, death to Israel' stuff plays better on his home turf.
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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison
Perhaps Ahmadinejad needs legitimacy more than we need to hear twisted worldviews and lies he's already repeated in other forums?
Giving a megalomaniac these types of events only increases the delusion.
By the way, if this session so resolutely cements Columbia's beliefs that Ahmadinejad is an ignominious, evil maniac, does that mean they will support a military response when he becomes too dangerous? Doubt it.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
Contributor to The Minority Report
Terrorist, murderer, tyrant, second-rate punk, enemy of America.
If there's any argument that would persuade the USA to (a) get out of the UN, and (b) get the UN out of the USA, this is it. Letting twerps like this desecrate American soil and still breathing.
And columbia university (unworthy of capitalization) is what I scoop out of Pete's litter box.
It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy Democrats?
Eh??
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
I warned you in your first diary you'd need to ask the higher ups to give you a new name, heh.
But no, I'm not one of the people who can do that, so use the contact form or something and request one.
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They can't send out enough invitations to terrorist leaders to come and 'talk' to them, and take their tough questions. Here's an idea for Columbia, Harvarrd, University of California, et.al. for the next urge you have to entertain one of these morons. How about you change the venue. Why don't you and a cadre of your liberal leaning students pick up you butts and go to Tehran, Caracas, or Havana and interview the idiots on their turf. How about you beat the hell out of him in front of his crowd of academians with your tough questions. And if we're lucky, no one will have to waste any time debating the stupidity of your efforts; it will be kept right where it belongs in the territorial confines of their respective dictatorial regimes.
What he says won't matter of course. What will play in Tehran and certain caves in Afghanistan is that you can wage war on America and still get a stage and fans at our universities.
Watching Fox and Friends this morning, I keep hearing people saying that this is good. That freedom of speech prevails. That this will be an opportunity to challenge him. I could spit on those ignorant people. It wouldn't matter if Columbia did challenge him. Speaking at Columbia is his message.
absentee
you can wage war on America and still get a stage and fans at our universities
Yeah, but the heat on that stage, if what I'm hearing on the news is correct, is pretty toasty. Lee Bollinger, president of Colombia, took him to task this morning for his policies, and was applauded for it.
"Mr. President, you exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator," Bollinger said, to loud applause.
He said Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust might fool the illiterate and ignorant. "When you come to a place like this it makes you simply ridiculous," Bollinger said. "The truth is that the Holocaust is the most documented event in human history."
“You are either brazenly provocative or astonishingly uneducated,” Bollinger told Ahmadinejad about the leader’s Holocaust denial. “Will you cease this outrage?”
From here in the cheap seats, it looks like Ahmadinejad got the public spanking he wasn't expecting from one of our lefties: This one is too beautiful to pass up:
Bollinger also raised questions of academic freedom in Iran and asked, "Can you tell them and us why Iran is fighting a proxy war in Iraq?"
Stating his "revulsion at all you stand for" as Ahmadinejad sat nearby, Bollinger concluded by saying that "I doubt that you will have the intellectual courage to answer these questions — but your avoidance will be meaningful to us."
By this report, and from the bits that have made it on the air, it seems that Ahmedinejad has received no succor from colombia- indeed, he ended up accusing Bollinger of being a pawn of the US press and politicians.
It would appear that we have a lot to disagree with our ivory tower brethren about, but not on the question of whether the president of Iran is a horse's patoot.
I just addressed Bollinger in another thread. But as for the audience I heard plenty of applause for Mahmoud.
And you may rest absolutely assured of seeing praise for portions of his speech from our left. I mean, he actually brought up the wiretap program! He had a lot to say about Muslim morals and ideals. Apparently not among them: shame.
He got his cheers and his victory. And Bollinger and Columbia delivered it to him with white gloves and honorifics.
absentee
The exegesis that Columbia seems to provide is that we should “engage” this despicable terrorist in a dialogue. What pre tell is the intended outcome; that we walk away better understanding each other? That we help him to see our point? Oh, Mr. A., we are sooo grateful you accepted out invitation to speak here today. Your prestige certainly speaks for itself. After all denying that millions of Jews were killed in horrific genocide, articulating you will wipe their nation off the face of this earth, providing arms of increasing sophistication that kill our nations soldiers (then denying it in the fact of clear facts and evidence), helping to seize our embassy, sowing mayhem, discontent and murder throughout the Middle East, building nuclear weapons with the intent to use them against the jooows and anyone else that stands in the way of your new Caliphate and murdering, torturing and imprisoning your own people because they oppose you; well sir, that’s quite a distinguished resume
But hey, keep out the ROTC, Guantanamo Bay is torture and Bush is the cause of the entire world’s evil.
There is such an obvious double standard and lack of anything useful to be gained as a result of this stunt. One can only characterize it as an appalling lack of judgment and honest intellectual faculties. A prediction; he will demur, deny, appease and patronize- a hallmark of the Iranian Regime. Honestly, do they expect to gain a better understanding of his positions? Perhaps some clarity on how he plans to eliminate Israel or why he feels that way? Maybe he is just misunderstood and we can “help him see our point”. Columbia and the liberal academics will never understand that some people (and I use that latter word only in an expositive sense) never respond to dialogue an only use it as a means of obstruction or to supplement their evil endeavors. They are foolish and always blame our country first and foremost; it's plain and simple.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
Contributor to The Minority Report
first and foremost to just stick a thumb in the eye of the BOOOSH administration---like that hasn't been done to death--and next to show just how bravely contrarian columbia can be--also done to death to the point of utterly predictable. With any luck, as so often happens with these a**hats, they will overreach and it will boomerang on them. Just like the NYT, those idiot students out in Colorado, the Dems in Congress, Ward Churchill, etc.
What amazes me is that the people who persist in "thinking" as they do just keep doing it when it has become a model for failure. But, hey, I guess that's what "intellectual bravery" is all about these days--moral stupidity.
that's the "principle" behind columbia's position.
it's the typical 60's childish attitude: "anything my political opponent likes, i will dislike".
...and saved us all this trouble???
And statesmen at her council met
Who knew the seasons when to take
Occasion by the hand, and make
The bounds of freedom wider yet
- Tennyson, _To the Queen_
Murdoch has interesting business strategies, including holding on to the NY Post, despite it reliably losing money each year, sometimes a lot of it. If he really wants to lose money but do a great social good, he should take over the NY Times and turn it into a paper that is actually credible rather than blatantly liberal. Who knows, maybe he could turn it around. The man is a miracle-maker.
And statesmen at her council met
Who knew the seasons when to take
Occasion by the hand, and make
The bounds of freedom wider yet
- Tennyson, _To the Queen_
watching the screeching that would go on should Murdoch even hint that he might do such a thing would certainly be popcorn-worthy!
Smart move by the NYT. It's good to see that the NYT has taken enough grief to realize that all money, from any PAC is equally green. Hopefully thet give Freedom's Watch the same rate they gave MoveOn.Org...
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His remarks were just, forceful, and even eloquent at times.
We are still waiting for a proper transcript, so this small excerpt courtesy of CNN will have to do:
"Mr. President, you exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator," Bollinger said to applause from many of the 600 people in the room for a speech from the Iranian leader.
Bollinger cited the Iranian government's "brutal crackdown" on dissidents, public executions, executions of minors and other actions.
And he assailed Ahmadinejad's "denying" of the Holocaust as "ridiculous" and "dangerous propaganda." He called the Iranian leader either brazenly provocative "or astonishingly uneducated."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/24/us.iran/index.html
I heard an excerpt of him accusing him of waging war agsinst our forces in Iraq.
He and the left never say this and hate when anyone else does beacuse to acknowledge war is to be forced to make a choice between appeasement and fighting back. So long as no one speaks the truth (see King Lear), then one has to do nothing.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
www.race42008.com
www.hinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
Not from me anyway. He might as well have given that speech in his bathroom mirror for all the good it does.
The problem is giving the petty and cruel dictator a US platform for propaganda. It's a public relations coup for Ahmadinejad in all the wrong places, and the remarks from little Bollinger were but a trifling waste of time. If anything they provided a terrific starting point for Mahmoud.
absentee
Bollinger was grandstanding to deflect criticism for the decision to allow the little creep to come there at all. Now he can feel all righteous about himself and his "speaking truth to power."
On second thought, I think you are all half-right - Bollinger's speech means little in contrast to his invitation. His invitation means the most and says the most. As Mike Volpe has said, he has made himself into a tool of Ahmadinejad.
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/kevin_price/2007/sep/24/lee_bollingers_big...
And yet he didn't have to say any of this - and it does matter when a liberal says these things. We usually hear them only from the mouths of conservatives, and that makes liberals suspicious.
Both liberals and conservatives need to agree on these things so that America can move forward united. Bollinger has helped us achieve that a little better.
Now the question is appeasement or war, rather than arguing over whether Iran is waging war against us.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
www.race42008.com
www.hinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
especially got me thinking about the notion that if a conservative had said what Bollinger said, it WOULD have been suspect by the usual libs. So, yes, it's important in that context--that a lib said it and now they have to consider that it's true. As Gamecock said, now what? Appeasement or war?
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www.hinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
This is maybe the happiest moment of my life.
Courage becomes a living and an attractive virtue when it is regarded not only as a willingness to die manfully, but also as a determination to live decently.