McCain again validates my reasons for not supporting him

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Just how egotistical, arrogant and plain stupid do you have to be to attack your own party over a television advertisement that you HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN?!?

Try and defend you boy on this one, McCainiacs. I know you will and it should be good entertainment to read your remarks.

McCain again reminds me why I won't be casting a vote for him in November of 2008 or ever for that matter.

What an idiot.

Remember, you get what you vote for stupid.

My special thanks, yet again, to that hayseed Huckabee for splitting the social conservative vote and leaving us stranded with McCain.

Bravo.. BRAAA-VO!

Cry me a river...

Would you rather have Obama or Clinton in office?

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With whom did Huckabee split the Social Conservative vote?

Because McCain is MUCH more conservative then Romney on social issues by any even remotely objective measure.

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

Really? I don't recall Romney ever having to tell a crowd he spoke to that he's a conservative. McCain seems to have to do that regularly.

I agree that McCain is conservative as compared to say, Russ Fiengold. I'll give you that one.

I'd answer this, but correcting the sheer obviousness of what is wrong with what you say would drag the collective IQ of Red State down several points.

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

Oh, and while I didn't agree with McCain on this particular issue, the ad, while perhaps in poor taste and silly, wasn't offensive, it's perfectly OK to denounce certain things you haven't seen provided you have the idea of what's in them. At least in certain circumstances.

I haven't seen any David Duke ads, but I'd still denounce them.

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

How is the ad in poor taste? Have you even seen or heard the ad? I would hope you wouldn't be like McCain and just denounce it because someone in the liberal media is upset.

The ad happens to be TRUE, so if truth is now what translates as 'poor taste' or 'silly' to the McCain camp then I am sad for those who feel they have no other choice than to support the Arizona senator.

We have fellow Americans dying in a war Democrats want to lose, and we face the spector of losing the courts to people for decades to people who will decide all social issues themselves ( in other demcracy itself is at stake) and you're going to base your vote on an ad!

I haven't read anyone saying they wouldn't vote for McCain.

People are upset about the ad comment because they are concerned that McCain is going to run a lame campaign.

See Bob Dole '96

"McCain again reminds me why I won't be casting a vote for him in November of 2008 or ever for that matter."

And I'll add, this is why some of us are concerned that by posting insulting little icons, people are encouraging others to not vote for McCain in the Fall instead of trying to help the GOP win.

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I thought this was a comment on a different blog

If you want to critisize the icons...so be it, but don't lie about why we're doing it...

One again, Federal Law lays how what it means and how to display a United State flag which we support and venerate as a signal of distress and emergency.

By turning the McCain sign upside down we are making the statement that we support him but feel he is doing damage to himself and his cause by his actions and words. It's also saying we need to stop pretending, and spinning, that the base, (not us) is united behind McCain when we know it's not. We're trying to say we want him to win and in order to do that he needs to reach out to the base and stop using every opportunity to condemn them/us.


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But without a big description underneath the icon, I don't think that is the meaning outside observers would get.

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the flying of flags upside down. The symbol they are using is not a flag.

It's a protest, but hopefully it will end after the convention.

I would be glad to end it when the nominee stops shooting the troops doing battle for him in the back with unnecessary attacks.

I think it was Cornwallis who won a major battle in the Revolutionary war by turning his cannon on the center line that was in danger of being over run by American forces. He won the battle by turning back the Americans but he lost the War because he destroyed his ability to carry out future offensive actions!

McCain could learn from this fact...that's what the Icon is about!


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He's wrong!


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this isn't about the bigger issue, this is about Haley's ego.

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My ego, Adam C? MY EGO???

That's rich!

There isn't another person in the universe that has as inflated a view of themselves as John McCain.

if your ego is more important than voting for the person who is closer to you in values and political views, that's your right.

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you shouldn't be writing on this site.

Do you really think that is the way it should be?..

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Not true, Populist. I wasn't going to vote for McCain before his criticism of the television ad. You need to read my opening headline again.

I vowed I would never vote for him after the 'Gang of 14' sellout. His latter actions supporting massive amnesty for 12-20 million lawbreakers cemented that decision.

This latest stupid act on his part only reconfirms why I'm not supporting him.

I'll still support GOP candidates on the ballot, just not that jerk.

Definitely been pro-Obama/Hillary for quite a long time. It's not this one thing that makes the Ds look so good to this voter.

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Now you're just lying, Adam C.

I've never said I would vote for either of those candidates and you know this if you've bothered to read my past posts.

Guess you just assume that others will read you lie and think it's true.

I'm calling you out. You're a liar.

I am writing in Mitt Romney in November. He is my choice and was the best candidate in the race. He's also the candidate I've advocated for since the primaries began.

Grow up, Adam C.

Romney can't win in November. But your taking a vote from McCain is putting Obama/Hillary one vote closer to winning. That's support.

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I 'owe' my vote to no one, Adam C.

Maybe if McCain does something to earn it, then that would be different.

I voted for Bush twice and was proud to cast my vote because Bush earned my trust by really supporting conservative policies like appointing quality judges, cutting taxes, going after the terrorists and supporting faith based initiatives.

Whatever Bush has done that I've disagreed with - spending and immigration - at least I knew where Bush was on those issues when I supported him.

Not the same with McCain. I think he would say anything to get elected and do anything once he's in office. The only thing McCain gets right is the WOT as it concerns Iraq, but that isn't enough for me to just give my vote to him.

I've been insulted by him slapping his own back saying he was right about the troop surge when all he ever did was say that we 'need more boots on the ground.' That's not the surge strategy that President Bush ordered. It was additional troops plus a new strategy for winning the populace over to our side to fight AQI.

Also, one right does not make up for numerous - and deliberate - wrongs.

Righteous indignation is an emotion one feels when one becomes angry over perceived mistreatment, insult, or malice, not directed at you. It is akin to what is called the hatred of injustice.

Populist...talking to you too...

"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

If you think its in the interest of the country to let Obama win than fine. I don't know how you could be intelligent and conservative and hold that view but whatever.

Liberalism must be defeated. Hard to believe that he scares me even more than Clinton. I just hope McCain and Obama don't try to have a kumbaya tone for the general election, in which case Obama would almost certainly win.

I 'owe' my vote to no one, Adam C.

You owe your vote to no one? How about the troops, who are depending on you to make the right decision and put someone in office who won't denigrate their service and waste their sacrifice?

I hate the fact that I'm going to vote for McCain. This is the first time in my life that I'm voting against somebody and not for somebody. I think McCain is snide and arrogant, and he was one of my last choices.

But this election is too important. There are too many issues that actually matter. As much as I want to throw up my hands, extend a certain finger in the direction of McCain, and tell him to go win it on his own, I can't. I spent six years in the Navy. I know many a person who gave their life in service to our country. I have too much of a commitment to this nation of ours to sit there and waste (yes, haley-waste) my vote in order to register a protest. I'll register my protest when McCain is sitting in the Oval Office next year, or in four years when we have better choices. But not now.

In politics, you have your word and your friends; go back on either and you're dead. (Rule #11 of the public policy process)

when he has the poor judgment to think that you should vote for McCain.

This isn't about Romney at all. This is about Haley. Could write in "W" (oh no, he likes immigrants too) or "Reagan" (oh wait, he supported amnesty)... well, anyway, the name doesn't matter. It could be Tancredo or Obama. The point is that Haley feels better about opposing McCain and fighting the man while speaking truth to power.

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Again you lie.

Illegal aliens are not 'immigrants' as you call them but lawbreakers.

Also, you don't have a DR in your name so I'm guessing you aren't a psychologist. In other words, you have no way of knowing why I think the way I do.

Maybe it has something to do with principles. Your candidate wouldn't know anything about that, would he?

If memory serves right, wasn't it the even-tempered McCain who told Senator John Cornyn of Texas to "F-You" when they were discussing immigration?

I see you follow his example by saying things about me that aren't true and being nasty about it as well.

Yah, you're just wrong.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrants

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

OK Haley...You can't credibly say McCain doesn't have principles. He's stubornly stuck to Amnesty and CFR and closing GITMO without wavering.

I believe his principles are wrong...but they are principles!


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If Romney is so great and McCain is so evil, why is Romney supporting McCain? Is he stupid? And if he is stupid, why would you vote for him?

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

Governor Romney is free to vote for who he wants, just like I am free to vote for who I want.

Right.

But why would you vote for someone so stupid as to not see how obviously "evil" McCain is?

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

As a side note, you will be pleased to know that I am donating $ to the NC GOP so they can continue to run the ad.

At least we have some real conservatives who want to fight in that state.

go vote for Nader or someother screwball.

This is why I think your attacks on McCain are harmful to the goal of the Party. It helps give cover to theses RINOs to not vote for McCain in the Fall.

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Like criticizing the NC ad? Or the federal government's role in Katrina?

Sorry, but this line of argument:

"Don't be a maverick because it will hurt McCain"

is not a persuasive argument. The person donated money to the NC party, so I am not sure it is hurting the party. NC is a conservataive state, so I expect the NC politicians to be critical of McCain from the right. Vermont is a liberal state, so I expect Vermont politicians to attack McCain from the left.

Earth to Adam C - MCCAIN IS A RINO!!!

Sen. McCain is the Republican nominee for President. He is by definition not a RINO. Not too mention he has always voted R and supported Rs. He didn't cast any protest votes for President like some people in this conversation are threatening to do.

And your failure to support the Republican nominee means that you very well could be a RINO. Sure, a conservative RINO but nonetheless Republican only when you get your way.

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Adam, this Haley fellow has just knocked you to the canvas twice.

First, he called you out on your despicable use of the word "immigrants" to describe illegal aliens and your disgusting insinuation that anyone who supports the right of the USA to be sovereign in its borders is a racist xenophobe.

Second, your Orwellian twisting of the acronym RINO to give it the exact opposite of its common meaning.

Two knockdowns in one round.

I took a solemn vow many years ago never to cast a vote for McCain. If it were not for the health of Ginsburg and the age of Stevens, I would not break my vow.

just b/c it was used to describe moderates in the past doesn't mean you can't have someone so conservative they abandon the Party when they feel like it. Those who use the party only when it fits their desires alone are not working in a coalition. If that's not a RINO, then it doesn't have meaning.

FWIW, I hate the term. But I've watched people throw it out a lot at critics of President Bush or moderate Rs who break ranks on some issues. If conservatives are breaking ranks (and if they have used the term in the past), I don't mind making sure they feel what it's like to be called out as turncoats.

And if you don't know the definition of "immigrant" that's a problem between you and your education. I won't get in the middle of it.

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in the McCain administration's ministry of disinformation and propoganda.

I have more advanced degrees from better schools than you do.

I can conjugate the Latin root of "immigrant" in every person, tense, voice and mood.

Here's a Miller's analogy for you:

1. Roommate is to burglar as immigrant is to:
a)criminal invader
b)reconquistador
c)illiterate peasant
d)all of the above

It almost sounded like you were being needlessly rude to a site moderator, which would of course be a very foolish thing to do.

Feel like revising and extending your comments?

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

Don't come into my house and dirty up the floor, or we'll have to kick you back out.

And you should try to get a refund on those "advanced degrees" if they didn't inform you how to understand basic English words like "immigrant."

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I can conjugate the Latin root of "immigrant" in every person, tense, voice and mood.

You do NOT insult the Mother Tongue on MY site. As Adam says, most of this is "between your education and you," but your pathetically and alarmingly ignorant invocation not only of Latin, but of grammar as a whole, is making this a little personal for me.

But then again, based on your educational bragging ("I have more advanced degrees from better schools than you do"), maybe you're the one person alive who has actually figured out how to conjugate a noun. You see, in every known language, that's what you do to verbs. Nouns, in an inflected language like Latin, are declined. But, as Ace Ventura once said, "I'm sure you already knew that...that's what turns me on about you, Lois -- your attention to detail."

By the way, back once again to this quote, directed at Adam:

I have more advanced degrees from better schools than you do.

That is one of the most ignorant statements I've seen yet on this board, trolls and mobies included. It's not up to me to reveal Adam's educational background, and he's likely too modest to do so, but suffice to say you would have to be one amazingly educated guy, with a pedigree that's out of this world, to come close to being able to say that.

And, to be frank, your comments wholly belie the possibility of that.

that would be the VERB migro,migrare,.

If you ever visited the classics reading room in Park Hall at UGA, you saw my name on a plaque there.

I didn't know they put screen names on plaques. I suggest that you prove it to Jeff and email him your real name so he can verify, because somehow, I don't think that there is a plaque there that praises "F and I Guy". (Though, I have been wrong in the past-the roster of the CR's from back during my time as president read "ShowMeConservatism")

In politics, you have your word and your friends; go back on either and you're dead. (Rule #11 of the public policy process)

Bobby Fischer was a world class chess champion. He beat Boris Spasky. You still wouldn't want to be too closely associated with his worldview. Just as I have no desire to be too closely associated with yours.

"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.

You should learn to do what you're told.

A literary reference would be appropriate here; unfortunately, the best one would be from the Gospel of John, and quite, quite blasphemous.

Ta!

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

[Pop.]
[Wipe.]

[Ta. - Moe Lane]

[PS: Although you may take some satisfaction in noting that I eventually noticed the dead link.]

they think they are smarter than everyone in the room...

And your Rude...

"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

Rude, that is. A bit of a bully, too. Let's see, actually... insolent? Yes. Vicious? Quite often. A respecter of persons? Not really, no. Obnoxious? Hoo, boy, yeah. Egotistical? Less so, since I met the woman who's now my wife. Arrogant? Nigh-infinitely.

Have I left anything out? :)

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That's why we love you Moe.

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"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

John
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Why would God invent something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the w

Evidence here.

Feel free to take the conversation off-line. My email address is easy -- my first name at RedState.com.

confronted with useless and interminable bloviations:

"I came, I heard, I left. Unimpressed."

You'll have to supply the actual Latin. Noblesse oblige, ya know? :>)

There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa

Furiously typing and spell checking..I dont think he heard you..

"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

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"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

...what "F&I" stands for, but I bet there was a lot of it going on in my college's classics library, too.

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How do you know that these advanced schools aren't more better? Just because they don't teach you elementary English doesn't mean that their advancification processes in other areas aren't more better.

Face it, you all are just dummified and F&I is giving you sunburn from you having to bask in his light.

In politics, you have your word and your friends; go back on either and you're dead. (Rule #11 of the public policy process)


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Who cares if they parse their Latin with Crayons...LOL


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I have more advanced degrees from better schools than you do.

I'm sure this will get me warned by the hall monitors, but this idiocy requires condign extirpation. Quite simply put, you might as well have a Ph D. in being a deuchebag. No one cares what you can conjugate in Latin.

If a Roman Century were to fail in battle as badly as you just failed in reasonable articulation, they would be decimated. You are not only obnoxious, you are also pathetic. Go straight to BFREDSTATE and write your own bathos-filled wank-a-thon.

"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.

I had to pull out the dictionary for "condign extirpation".

In politics, you have your word and your friends; go back on either and you're dead. (Rule #11 of the public policy process)

I think you owe Adam an apology!


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Or is this just the "advanced" spelling of the term?

McCain administration's ministry of disinformation and propoganda.

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OOO...My degree is bigger than your degree...To bad they don't teach maturity in that big "Better School" you went to. to bad you only went to class but didn't learn any class.


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better than using a false appeal to authority. Basic argumentation and freshmen level classes should have taught him that. Makes me doubt his claim....

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if we have reached the point of measuring the size of our respective, er, degrees, we've almost certainly reached the point where nothing else useful can come of a thread.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

Several of us have, in turn, several degrees, in a wide range of subjects. We have lawyers, economists, classicists, archaeologists, art historians, English experts, masters of public administration and of information technology, historians, and so much more. We have folks who have gone everywhere from Georgia to Penn to the U of Chicago to Holy Cross to William and Mary to Florida State, and so many more.

Further, many here who do not necessarily have advanced degrees (or even any degrees at all) are educated not only by life experience, but by their own thirst for knowledge that lead them here in the first place, where more subjects than can be quickly tallied are discussed, and where the flow of information in multiple directions abounds.

That's part of what makes this community great. The education and the diversity should be a point of pride, not a starting point for the d**k-measuring Olympics.

Comprende?

I was poking at the guy who claimed his degree was bigger than everyone else's.

I don't have an advanced degree, but the undergrad classes that I took taught me enough to not use "Mine's bigger than yours" as a valid argument. Just saying....

Socialism doesn't work. It looks nice on paper, but it's been tried and it's failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
Proud member of the V.R.W.C.

Yeah...it's like saying "My dad can beat up your Dad".

Makes me wonder if this guy got past middle school!


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about all the degree holders here in Athens who work waiting tables and taking ID's at bars. Humility is learned well here.

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I don't like it, because the term has had a traditional meaning i.e. moderate/liberal Republicans but Adam has a point and I have to agree with him on this one...if you abandon the Party for any reason you can correctly be called a RINO


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if he were to abandon the party, he wouldn't be a Republican in name, either. Just sayin'.

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good point...though how we define abandon matters....

If by abandon you mean change registration and go to a different Party then you are spot on!

If by abandon you mean deviate from Party orthodoxy and stated philosophy such as CFR and the immigration bill, or refuse to vote for the Parties nominee, the RINO could in justifiably be applied!

That's a tough one to swallow but a reasonable arguement none the less


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"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.

Come on Adam...you can't pin one extremist...and obviously unhinged person on the rest of us...Can you say guilt by association?

I've read your stuff for quite a while now and I know you're better than that. Haley does not represent me or by views in any way and I accept no responsibility for his rants what so ever and you are wrong to use a broad brush to include us in this way!


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I said the insulting bumper stickers give cover to people like this who are looking for excuses to not vote for McCain. We need conservatives to try to win over these people, not give them more reasons to become anti-McCainites.

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He can't hide behind me...I'll push him back to you so you can get a clean shot at him

LOL

:>)


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< Insert usual arguments about wasting vote, aiding democrats etc here >

{< await incoherent reply > :Repeat until exhaustion}

Ahh the joy of the algorithmic reply.


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-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Haley's been a RINO for a while, but only pops up once in a while to remind us.

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We all get accused of it by the extreme wings of the party. Incoherent Rinos though just plays into the stereotype of Republicans the libs try to push.

I am sure there are those amongst us who are unenthralled with our candidate. They may even be correct in their reasoning. If they are I'd like to see it. Calling McCain a poopy head and offering nothing else just makes us all look foolish. I'd Attack Haley's post but whats to attack. Its opinion, and it is what it is.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Just what we needed, more junk to push the good articles down the list.



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Hey simpson316, I didn't make you post on my blog. Go make your own blog comments if you don't like mine and feel that they are taking up precious space.

As for the rest of you, I am 40 years old and have given much money, time and effort to the GOP. I was a member of my state party as well as a year-to-year member of the RNC. I worked on House, Senate, Governor and Presidential campaigns, so I don't have to explain myself to you.

I quit the party over the whole Amnesty issue. I still support most of the party's platform but will not support this pretend 'conservative' and blow hard who is the presumptive nominee. I happen to think he's a media brown-nosing SOB with absolutely NO principles whatsoever.

That is my right as a voter and as a lifelong fighter for the conservative cause.

Trust me though, I won't lose any sleep over what somebody on this site thinks of me.

You're renting space on a Republican site, I would suggest you be respectful to the Republicans who are actually going to vote for the Republican nominee.

It isn't your site either, Populist.

I've as much right to post here as you.

So I'd highly recommend you step away from the keyboard. And listen to Moe's wise words of advice (note: it's his site too).

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Then ban me, Adam C. Ban me and show everyone what an open-minded and even-handed person you are.

This is politics, if you can't handle someone disagreeing with you then you are in for a lifetime of shock in this arena.

Last time I checked, Republicans were supposed to be the party that didn't staunch debate when it didn't fall in line with what the fat cats of the party wanted.

The fat cats wanted amnesty and they didn't get it because the majority of the party was against it. Does that mean the majority was wrong? Not likely in that case and not likely in many others. The base of this party is what wins elections, not marching in lockstep with someone who craps on you at every possible moment and on just about every issue.

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"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

But yeah I think banning you wouldn't be a bad idea, you seem to have a sense of entitlement about this place. This is a Republican site and you're going to post blogs against the Republican candidate you ought to show some respect. And calling Adam C. a liar isn't a good course of action either. I'm guessing some of the other moderators would have banned you the first time for that, but not Adam.

Haley...we could agree on some things...and I share some of your views...but I disagree whole heartedly with your approach...Take it from someone who knows from experience...you are doing yourself no favors with your approach...

Adam pulled my fat out of the fire when I got out of control a while ago so you can't be more wrong.

Adam, Moe and the rest of the moderators here:

If this is the way I came across a couple of months ago, I owe you all a heart felt apology. I think the Ban gun can be over utilized but in this case and mine if I came across this way...I think it was appropriate.


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FWIW, it wasn't quite this bad, but in the neighborhood. But I saw some potential in there. And I'm glad it worked out for the best.

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I'm voting for McCain under duress!!

Not in order to poke sticks.

Not when I don't have something worthwhile to bring to the attention of the community (issue, court action, etc)

Not when I haven't researched and sourced the topic.

Keep in mind, not just you, but everyone complaining about McCain: When you seek only perfection in politics you will get nothing.



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Not so much funny this late at night. I might wake the wife and kid...not good.



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My Party's been hijacked,
I'm voting for McCain under duress!!

No matter what you've done for the Party Haley your post and comments here do not speak well of you!

I objest to a lot of McCain's actions and I disagree with the way he's attcking his own...but the arguments need to be made in a reasoned way...and in that you fail miserably!


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My Party's been hijacked,
I'm voting for McCain under duress!!

BTW...I speak from experience...because I let my emotions get the best of me for a while...I'm trying now to be reasonable and not disrespectful in trying to show those here that there are problems that need addressing...you would do well to do the same!


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My Party's been hijacked,
I'm voting for McCain under duress!!

Oh please, what McCain did was smart politics. Even if he does agree with the ad, he has to play to moderates and independents that will ultimately decide this election. It's a smart and calculated political move whether we like it or not. No one is seriously going to vote for someone else because he didn't support this ad.

I understand your thought on this, but I would remind you that Ronald Reagan didn't win two landslide elections by appealing to moderates. He was staunchly conservative and proudly so. He didn't apologize for it either or attack his own party.

Thanks for your comments though. You are at least respectful even if you disagree. Can you give Adam C some lessons?

You know, insulting moderators AFTER they have warned you isn't a good way to have a long life.

Anyhow, you're Ronald Reagan example is the typical excuse of a yahoo who doesn't really understand how things work. I'm not disparaging Reagan, who was indeed the greatest President of the 20th Century, but instead small-minded understanding of what he was and what he represented.

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

If it wasn't for me, a few other anti-McCain people would have been banned. But they figured out that while they were in our Republican house, they shouldn't disrespect us. If you want to go find anti-Republican conservative sites, they're out there. This is a Republican site.

And Reagan did appeal to moderates. Even his "attack" ads like the Bear in the woods didn't describe "Democrats" rather only "some people." He won a lot of independents and moderates. He did so in part by supporting amnesty, raising some taxes, and doing other things that would drive you nuts if President McCain did them.

Based on your reasoning, I'd assume you wouldn't have voted for Reagan in 1984 because he wasn't pure enough for you. But really this is about your personal hatred, not something rational.

Just stay out of the way of those of us who are Republicans and trying to win this year and you'll be fine. But if you keep posting drivel that does nothing but attack the GOP nominee and encourages people to oppose him, you're not going to be here long.

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rhetoric, a magical personality and courage of the first order in dealing with what he was elected to deal with- national security.

His compromises included the monster tax hike of 1982 known, ironically, as the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act, a gift that still keeps on giving today.


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My Party's been hijacked,
I'm voting for McCain under duress!!

You don't like John McCain. Fine: I only grudgingly endorsed him myself. You won't vote for him. Also fine. You're angry that he's the nominee. I can see that.

But you do not have the right to take any of that out on a moderator, and you have been here long enough to know that we take our declaration about RS being a site for supporting Republican and conservative ideals very seriously; so act accordingly in the future.

Moe

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

I think I've shown a lot of restraint given the personal vindicative that has been hurled at me (a great deal coming from Adam C), for expressing thoughts that have been echoed on your own site today and at others.

If McCain wants to win this election he had better quit attacking those he claims to represent.

First he acted disgracefully towards radio host Bill Cunningham by blasting him for speaking out at a McCain rally in Ohio when it was McCain's own staff who asked him to "give them the red meat" about Obama.
Then it was this deal with his own party (one that is trying to win and get the GOP back to a majority again) in the state of NC over this television ad.
Only now after Reverend Wright reminded everyone in America why such an ad was made (and maybe due to some crow-eating in the McCain camp) has the senator changed his tune.

If the senator wishes to win back conservatives then he had better start making an effort because what I am seeing so far tells me he isn't interested.

And if he isn't interested, why should conservatives like myself be interested in helping him?

It's a fair question.

Haley...it's not what you say as much as it is how you say it!


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"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

stems from his own actions from during the primaries. ace is speaking out of experience. HE was very much a flawed messenger for his message. It got him generally dismissed as a crack pot.



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Geeeeeeeeez....


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"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."


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"40 million American households with guns are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have guns."

I don't get..... what finessing the ladies has to do with my comment that it's not what you say it's how you say it?

Please explain...I'm not mad about you post...I'm seriously interested in what you mean


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You are being told to behave better.

So, pretty please with sugar on top.

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The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

Just how egotistical, arrogant and plain stupid do you have to be

Look in the mirror lately?

I have problems with McCain and have been very vocal about it but I will cast a vote for him in November and I want to condemn posts such as this which do nothing but give credence to those who would call us McCain haters simply because we disagree with him.

Shame on you Haley 37.

Next post you make...you might try to put two coherent and consistent thoughts together, It makes it much easier for people to take you seriously!


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I'm voting for McCain under duress!!

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"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.

Your problem is that McCain wants to win this election, but some here seem very keen on him loosing.

In some cases this is simply to prove they were right and that the election would have been wan by a "more conservative" - in whatever sense they prefer - candidate.

But in this case (not the first) it is that they are more concerned about attacking the opposition than winning votes. This is a difficult election for the GOP and Obama is an able political campaigner (but with a horrible set of policies in his bag if he got elected).

However the DimsDems have gone and got themselves into this pickle where they're spending millions running attack ads against each other. Meantime McCain makes measured, responsible speeches which build up his position over time.

Seriously running with the line "Look, look, he's got a scary black preacher" might energise some, but not all of them are likely to vote for him anyway and screws up the "straight taker" line that he's stuck to with some success so far.

with Mr. McCain (I have!)is acceptable. The issues we should be discussing is how to ensure those candidates with whom we have a greater number of issues do NOT win in the general election at ALL levels, Presidential, Congress, Gubernatorial and all the way down to town council!!!!

Without a proper foundation all we are doing is building a house of cards. With no support at the local level there is no reason to take a position at the upper levels.

..quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur

There is a way to talk about the problems that Sen. McCain has with conservatives of a variety of stripes and what we can do about that to ensure that we don't end up electing a Democrat in November.

This ain't it.

Some here confuse the problems some of us have with Sen. McCain with trying to tear him down (I for one think Sen. McCain's attitude towards a number of conservative issues needs adjusting so as to not annoy conservatives into withholding time/money/effort/votes); your blog, which is just tearing him down, isn't helping.

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