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You must not be paying attention. :)

"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

...is that we have poor message coordination.

Make of that what you will.

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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!

...I'm just pointing out what the consensus is around here. I probably like Fred Thompson the best, but I also like Romney and Guiliani. My post should not be construed as an attack on Romney.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

I was addressing this blog entry.

I'm not committed to any candidate right now (I'm a Fred Thompson lean) but I don't see this video as being unfair at all. In fact, while I am a Thompson lean I would hope that if Fred Thompson ever said the things that Romney did in that vieo, I want to see it so I can be disgusted and start looking for another candidate to support. Nobody is perfect and I know whoever wins the nomination will have flaws, but anyone who has ever run away from Ronald Reagan is not going to get my vote nor the vote of most conservatives.

Pro-choice Thompson?
"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

You're not "us," and therefore don't get to make the determination of things regarding "us."

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[F]or by the fundamental law of Nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred...

-John Locke

I think that he's just trying to tell you that you diminish yourselves, the site, and cause yourself to be viewed less credibly with posts like this that are...let's just be kind and call it "substandard."

as the knife slips out next...

Et tu Demophilus?

"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

The old MAFIA saying about the need to remove the "stone in my shoe" fits Youtube perfectly except with Youtube the stone is never removed.I like it because it outs the flip-floppers and keeps politicians more honest to their word.

Anybody but Romney, eh?

I think Redstate's Romney hate says more about Redstate than it does Romney. I don't think its any coincidence that Redstate has been the only prominent site to defend people opposing Romney because he's Mormon, though most of the major commenters have been careful to explain that they themselves don't have a problem with his religion, oh no, and its just a coincidence that they'll use any shabby excuse to attack him.

They that are with us are more than they that are against us.

I don't think its any coincidence that Redstate has been the only prominent site to defend people opposing Romney because he's Mormon

The last I checked, it was against the rules here to attack Romney based on his religion. So this bit seems kind of out of line. He gets attacked here because of his willingness to say whatever it is he has to say to get elected at that moment in time... which is a real problem with the guy.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

I don't think its any coincidence that Redstate has been the only prominent site to defend people opposing Romney because he's Mormon

This is so precious. Have a link for a Contributor or Director doing this? Because, as a Director, I'm known as the guy who declared discussions of Romney's religion off-limits, banned more than a few for breaking that rule in unpleasant ways, and indeed, I can't think of a single one of us who's done this.

So I bet you're gonna share now.

though most of the major commenters have been careful to explain that they themselves don't have a problem with his religion, oh no, and its just a coincidence that they'll use any shabby excuse to attack him.

Yeah, I'm really gonna need that citation. One of my groomsmen -- one of my oldest friends -- is LDS. You wanna toss a slur around, go for it, but be sure you have something to back it up.

It's not that Romney's Mormon that's the problem. It's that he left a trail behind him, and he's been too cute by far. If imputing bigotry to this kind of unease makes life easier for you, go for it -- but if you can't support it, don't bring it here.

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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!

That's the problem, see. All the videos with Romney choking puppies have Thompson walking on water in them, and its sacrilege to show images of Thompson (PBUH).

They that are with us are more than they that are against us.

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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!

there was one of him sacrificing a kitten on a pentagram. then draining the blood into a cup, but before he could drink it Senator Thompson turned it into wine.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

I don't support Romney but he was good on Leno last night. In my opinion Romney needs to do real well in tonights debate to boost his numbers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wcvb/20070503/lo_wcvb/13248779

Oh wait, they are actually doing that this weekend. At least there they have the thin veneer of a "3 year anniversary" to hide behind.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

For my part, I hadn't seen Mitt running from Reagan before and I read a lot of blogs.

Turned my stomach and I suspect that's the real reason for all the unhappiness from the Romney faction. This video is seriously craven stuff. Just ugly, awful, pure politician who will say ANYTHING stuff.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

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If taking the “wrong” view on certain issues at some point in one’s career disqualifies an individual from higher office, I fear the Republican Party will become a marginalized, regional party. No one from the Northeast or West Coast need apply. I want a national party.

While I understand and sympathize with this, I can't totally agree. There are plenty of things that Republicans can disagree on and still be Republicans. On the other hand, we are supposed to stand for something. Those ideas that differentiate us from Democrats (or maybe I should say conservatives from liberals) should be solid.
But, it definitely depends on the time table. Making stupid statements last year is totally different than making those statements fifteen years ago, with evidence that you have changed since then.

But if there are too many conditions---if the social/fiscal tightrope is too narrow---no one can walk it.

Instead of constantly berating Mitt and Rudy, let's build on the ground we share and expand the movement from there.

> But I also wish the "Big 3," particularly Romney, would get more of a fair shake here...

They did get a fair shake. They were weighed in the balance and found wanting.

hasn't gotten a shake is Fred. Since he has choosen not to be "weighed" yet.
"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

If taking the “wrong” view on certain issues at some point in one’s career disqualifies an individual from higher office, I fear the Republican Party will become a marginalized, regional party.

It's an interesting point. To me as a voter what matters is whether the candidate will get results if elected. (i.e. will legislate and govern the way I want them to). So if I decide a candidate has really changed his opinion about then his past view should't matter.

However most politicians have a core philosophy, and that controls their votes. So if a candidate is more liberal than me in 3 specific social conservative areas, then they are likely to be more liberal in almost all of the rest. So while theoretically I could vote for someone who sided with the Democrats a couple of times on taxes, the reality is that candidate would more than likely be a high tax candidate in the future too.

Although I've seen at least one YouTube on the subject, and remember thinking, Hey, he had hair!

Post it in a diary and see what you get.

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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!

So it would be hard for anything from Thompson to be worse. Nonetheless, I have a harder time taking the Thompson bandwagon seriously when folks seem to forgive him in advance for anything he may have ever said or done.

I don't want to hi-jack and turn this into a Thompson thread; I may find time to do a diary this weekend on his YouTube video. Thompson doesn't come across as "craven," to use your word, but his comments in the debate were consistent with contemporary news accounts placing him as libertarian/pro-choice, which in my opinion makes his recent refutations of those accounts seem disingenuous.

A note on debates: I think debates are crucial to nail down a candidate's platform, intellect, and character. And I can see how you could look at a debate and decide you have a hard time trusting someone. But isn't it a bit much to decide a person has no convictions whatsoever based on a few minutes of his early public life? That seems just as hasty as people who decided GWB wasn't "smart enough" to be president when he stumbled on some debate questions.

I may never convince you to be enthusiastic for Romney the way I am, but I wish you'd just say you think he's not resolute enough to be GOP#1, or that you'd love to believe he's for real but you don't, rather than deriding his personal character with such confidence.