Open Thread Please?

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As I am seeing a dearth of open threads and am unable to create an entire diary out of any of my thoughts, could I please call this an open thread?

I will contribute the first few comments [which are none worthy of an entire diary on their own.]

I wish we had daily tracking of his fundraising efforts.

As near as I can tell, his supporters are primarily in his corner because he is 'different' (like old man kangaroo methinks) from all the others. He is hopey changey.

All the talking heads on the news dismiss his flip flops as things that politicians do. They move to the left for primaries and center for general elections.

Problem being: That's not hopey changey. That's just standard political fare.

The talking heads knew it all along, and supported him because he is a radical lefty and that is the policies they support. It doesn't even surprise them that he's just like everyone else, but all those college kids who fell in love with Opossum because he is 'different from all the others' may not be so much in love anymore. More like a hookup.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Not even his most ardent supporters can come up with anything to recommend him for the job of president.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

The democrats would have nailed this the first time. Language is everything in politics. He who controls the words, controls the fight.

So why is everyone saying that Opossum opted out of "public financing"? That sounds to John Q. Public like the taxpayers are not going to have to foot the bills for his campaign. And gives him room to discuss his "parallel public financing system" where the taxpayers don't have to pay the bill.

It should be stated loud and clear that Obama has decided not to abide by the spending limits which were put in place by campaign finance reform in order to reduce the ability of fat cats to subsidize their favorite candidates. He is undermining the efforts of the US Congress to give all candidates a level playing field.

That's what people want: level playing fields, spending limits on campaigns, reduction of the power of big donors.

Use those words. Not "Public Financing".

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

describes his campaign more accurately, and sort of has the scandal article ring to it.

'Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a
delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted
by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds
forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick
up a turd by the clean end.'

Rejected public financing doesn't sound bad. I heard one of the talking heads say that at least he isn't asking the taxpayers to pay for his campaign.

That thought will take off like a shot and the people will criticize McCain for being a sponge on the taxpayer.

We need to always say that he rejected the spending limits that he had previously agreed to abide by. (Should that be by which he had agreed to abide? Yes, I think so.)

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

We would be drilling on the beaches of Malibu if the people got the money for it.

How many people in OK and TX protested that they didn't want to look at an oil rig in their back yard? None. That's how many. That's because they got the money from that black gold. Just like Jed.

The reason the people of CA, FL, MA etc. protest energy production off their coasts is that they aren't getting paid for seeing that oil rig.

Solution? Spread the money around. Instead of the Feds taking the lion's share of the cut, give most of it to state and muni gov'ts. Make it like AK oil. All the inhabitants get a nice check every year. Protesters would suddenly swallow their tongues and cash their checks.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

I mean, I change when I have to. But not until I *have* to.

I dropped over to RS 3.0 and it seemed very nice. But I couldn't find the silverware and the glasses were moved. And I had no idea where you guys put the light bulbs.

So back to old RS with me. And it looks like a lot of my kindred spirits are doing the same thing. Way the most of my friends are right here on RS.

And yes, when we are forced over there, we will go. We will grumble a little bit (how long did we complain about not being able to see 'Replies to me' when we came here from RS 1.0?) Eventually we will get good at it.

But we are certainly a conservative bunch. Now if we could only get those morons on the SC to quit changing the Constitution whenever they get a feather up their rears, we would all be happy campers. Change is bad enough without having 5 liberal nut cases imposing it on us.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

This is going to make you hurl.

Courtesy of Rachel Lucas [www.rachellucas.com] comes a quote from Steven Weber of HuffPo...

(Now I'm serious...get back...it's ugly.)

Change is seeping into our consciousnesses and Hope is entering our lives like amber rays dispelling the murk of a drugged sleep, the one which we endured so helplessly, so long.

The movement headed by Obama is becoming an unstoppable juggernaut, fueled not by his leadership alone but by the gathering momentum of those individuals who feel the totality of the movement’s righteousness within them. Obama is the face of the movement; the people are the movement.

And while we are relishing our Obasm, we must nonetheless be aware of the opposing forces who peer jealously across the widening breach, who are becoming even more embittered, even more determined to prevent this movement from succeeding. Starting from its warped, hardened kernel of an ideology, the Bush/Neo-Con jihad on democracy has been nothing less than catastrophic, a global socio/geopolitical plague…

…So it is now our duty as newly deputized agents of Change and Hope to protect this American movement with the fierce devotion of parents who have recovered their kidnapped child.

Yeah. I told you so. Now go clean it up. And nobody look when Steven has to clean up his Obasm.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

I could swear I heard Ravi Shankar on the harpsichord during that post, but couldn't find the audio link.

'Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a
delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted
by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds
forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick
up a turd by the clean end.'

To walk in.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

...and in whole it is freaky how much it is in line with the thinking of the average Obama voter....just sleep now for your messiah has come....it is not dying...you don't need human rights..for I give you the existential experience of Nirvana...

Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream,
It is not dying, it is not dying

Lay down al thoughts, surrender to the void,
It is shining, it is shining.

Yet you may see the meaning of within
It is being, it is being

Love is all and love is everyone
It is knowing, it is knowing

And ignorance and hate mourn the dead
It is believing, it is believing

But listen to the colour of your dreams
It is not leaving, it is not leaving

So play the game "Existence" to the end
Of the beginning, of the beginning

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

That could be the convention theme song. Much as the Clinton's were "thinking about tomorrow" Opossum can be "relax, turn off your mind and float downstream".

That made a tingle go up my leg. Either that or I just rolled my chair over my little toe.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

It was inspired by Timothy Leary's guide to LSD use which was inspired by the Tibetan Book of the Dead.......and this is one of the scariest lines wrt Obamessiah:

"Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void
It is shining, it is shining"

Obama being the "void" of course.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

My pop culture references can be counted on one hand. Easily.

But that's still a great song for the D convention. We should suggest it. Anonymously of course. It wouldn't do for them to suspect RS was behind it.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

...The Beatles have always been my favorite band...politics to the side...I read about this all in a book called "The Gospel According to the Beatles"...it's a good read about the religious/psychedelic themes of the Beatles and the generation that listened to them. I would recommend it to anyone who likes the Beatles and/or that era and it's social religious beliefs.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

See, I liked Rock and Blues far too much to like what they did to the genre and to the plethora of GOOD groups that weren't close enough to the beetles for the labels to cover them.

Note, I am a former musician (bass guitar player) and my father used to play regionally and in vegas (lead guitar)

I won't even touch the number of riffs and arrangements that they just 'took' and used for their songs, trying to mask it by doubling the tempo. heh.

Though, I do give the beetles this one "Sorry dude, that sucks" moment: Yoko.

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Dependence is Slavery.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

I do think the Beatles were perhaps the most influential group ever. But I hate to hear any of their stuff. Only because I grew up in the sixties and seventies and I have been suffering with that overplayed crap my whole life. OMG! Please give it a rest!

I grew up a typical southern white boy I loved hard rock, I got into all the hair bands and heavy metal screamers. Now I hear that crap again and I am like "What the hell was I thinking"

Now, thank God for XM radio. I listen to Bluesville about 80% of the time, and the other 20% I listen to the Reggae channel.

I don't think it strange that my tastes changed over time. what I find remarkable is that so many of my contemporaries still listen to the same tired old crap they grew up with.

That stuff was overplayed when it came out, and it's been played everywhere ever since.

Give that lame top 40 seventies crap a rest! And the same goes for top 40 classic rock. How many times can you hear Cashmere? OMG!

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

While there was ALWAYS a push for the right 'look' for a band, the beetles brought it to a whole new level.

It was impossible to have a career in anything RELATED to 'rock' unless you looked like or sounded like the beetles.

And, I'm sorry world, talentwise they weren't that great. Yes, they were functional, but they weren't that great.

Bob Seger is great.

Jimmy Hendrix was great (could he have been better clean? who knows, I think so)

Ted Nugent.

Neil Diamond (Sorry, best singer-songwriter I know)

The beetles had a PR campaign pushing impressionable teenage girls to spend their money on the beetles stuff and telling them that it was good music.

I don't discredit their influence, I just wish it had been based more on original talent.

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Dependence is Slavery.

The best there ever was or ever will be. King.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Freedom of Religion NOT Freedom from Religion

I would argue that Hendrix was more influential than he was great. Actually he was overrated. Ask yourself if he would have achieved such legendary status if he would have not been black when it was very chic to be black, and died young (always a cool thing to do).

As for singer/songwriters. There are many who are overlooked. The greatest are the Bee Gees IMO. Nineteen number one hits, plus four more written for other performers. And the biggest selling soundtrack album of all time. There work has been covered by over 400 other artists.

Hard to beat that

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

of some sort of purple acid that some girl gave me, a quarter million of my closest friends around, big red parachute flares floating down, Hendrix playing "The Star-Spangled Banner" on July 4, 1969, and a little fun with the girl while he was playing it. Yeah, INFLUENTIAL.

In Vino Veritas

I just wanted to let you know, we all laughed at you old hippies.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

back when "stop, drop, and roll" could put out all sorts of fires.

In Vino Veritas

at you for having to grow up after sport sc**wing became a blood sport.

In Vino Veritas

Perfect time to be young and unconcerned.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

making more money than God and far from "restraining influences." I should be dead.

In Vino Veritas

Than anybody should and having more fun than anyone should endure.

There was many a day I woke up wanting to be dead.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

naw by kyle8

when I was a young man, any nerd could get laid, all it took was a polyester suit, some disco boots, and usually a beer and pizza.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

if you remember the Sixties, you weren't there.

In Vino Veritas

not as bad as Yoko, but pretty bad.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges...but we'll take some of those trenchcoats over there.

Looks like Weber needs to take his metaphormucil.

But this has to be part of the top ten list:

the gathering momentum of those individuals who feel the totality of the movement’s righteousness within them

totality of the movement's righteousness?!?!?!?!? I'm telling you. It's a religion.

And Steven's inability to see the humor in his acknowledgment of his Obasm made me wonder at first if it was all snark. Apparently it is not.

What will they do if Johnny Mac beats the Opossum? I suspect it will involve Valium.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

mob.

In honor of your "Opossum" label, I give you an update on the most famous Possum of all, Pogo, as played by Obama:

"We have met...the enemy...and he is, like...um...John McCain."

See: Denver, late summer, 2008.

On cable news, 24/7.

All members of the VRWC are expected to be watching and enjoying the 'show'. I hope the 'totality of the movement's righteousness' doesn't disappoint me.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

and the Norwalk virus will reshape the totality of their movement.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Simply because there has been a noticeable lack of open threads lately.

---
Finrod's First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

I noticed that they had one over the weekend, but by the time I got here on Mon, it was old and tired. And unfortunately, I don't have time or brainpower enough for a full diary. I'm reduced to a drive-by shooter.

And please don't treat it as my thread. I wish everyone would use it.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

By then end of Bill Clinton's second term, I nearly threw bricks through the TV. I was sooooo sick of his lip biting, pause...pause...pause, feel your pain way of speaking. After just so many years, he 'bout pushed me over the edge.

Opossum is worse. So much worse. He pauses before. every. single. word.

I know he can think faster than that. So why does he talk so slow? Does he think we're so ignorant that we have to pause to digest his great words of wisdom? Or more likely, he is worried about his hoof going into his mouth, so he weighs every single word.

I wish he would quit being such a pansy worry wart and *come out with it* already.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

You're expecting Obama to speak with you as an equal.

He doesn't. He speaks down to you as a subject.

Say what the mindless masses want to hear so you keep their support, then do as you will when they are not around. Dispell any outing of your actions as propaganda and spin.

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Dependence is Slavery.

I can type faster than he talks. By a magnitude of 10. And I'm a crummy typist.

And to tell you the truth, I don't trust anyone who weighs his words that carefully. It makes you think they know they have to hide their true thoughts and parse their words just so. If they just open their mouths and say what they are thinking, they mights scare you off and they know it.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

YOU aren't... but are YOU an Obama Supporter?

Think of who is supporters are.

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Dependence is Slavery.

I suppose the ability to process the spoken English word at speeds faster than 20 words per minute precludes one from being stupid enough to idolize a possum.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Always idolize the elephant before the possum.

only one of those could squish you.

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Dependence is Slavery.

100 percent.

And a possum is a rodent who kills chickens and lives on carrion.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Now now, let's not compare Senator Obama to a rodent.

There are many rodents that to great and wonderful things in the world of behavioral studies and medical research.

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Dependence is Slavery.

I would post one of a rodent with large ears right now. :)

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

in all of those "uh", "umm", "like", "y'know" moments.

And you're right. He speaks like he's trying to run out the clock without saying anything.

to make something cool like that 1984 commercial, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Um...Uh...

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

you had quite a little bit bottled up inside. Glad you got it out.

Impeach the 5 usurpers

I just can't think of it right now. Which makes my mocking of Opossum's slow speech sound rather hollow. Maybe I shouldn't have confessed. :)

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

"...McCain survived 6 years of Torture and Deprivation. Obama can't survive a DAY without lighting up a KOOL. Yes this tells a story of ones strength and leadership."

from that hateful site Moe linked in Redhot-

http://www.americablog.com/2008/06/honestly-besides-being-tortured-what....

That was a good one, so vey good.
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Just a typical, small town, British-American girl...

in an attempt to be "authentically" black.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

They mock GWB for his refusal to drink alcohol due to his previous problems with over-consumption. Yet their Opossum is unable to break the habit of a silly little white stick. A thing that most liberals find more abhorrent than pot.

And yes, McCain has withstood far far more than either GWB or BO.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Just a typical, small town, British-American girl...

We may need to add a wing on to RS 3.0 if we intend to keep track of all of them. :)

And thanks for using my open thread. It was getting lonely.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Does anyone have bose equipment ?
After overpaying was it objectively worth it ?

What is objectively your favorite piece of stereo equpment ?

I am still loving my old fischer tuner with dual marantz amplifiers (Made when stereo meant having two amps).


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

My old Marantz system could vote if I contacted ACORN, but it still sounds sweet.

I looked at a Bose when I was in one of their retail outlets once, and it sounded nice, but I never could stand to part with the $.

Kowalski knows much more about all that stuff though. If I see him, I'll send him over.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

That is my feeling on Bose. They do a fine job of reproduction (But who doesn't these days ?) The question for me is, is there something special that they provide that justifies the premium.

*The tubes have a nice warm glow in the winter


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Come here please.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

So no need to apologize. I have no opinion on your question, however.

And Rightly So!

In case some of you have missed it, the media research council is still gathering sig's for petition for radio independence day, July 4th:

http://www.mrcaction.org/512/petition.asp?Ref_ID=1496&RID=15318987

The free exchange of ideas inevitably yields both heat and light.

I signed it, but I have to admit not being terribly worried about the Fairness Doctrine ever kicking in again. There are some far left loons that want it, but all the right and way the most of the middle support freedom.

Thank goodness RWR buried that turd and gave good reasons for doing so. May his work never diminish.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

and was saying that if Obama gets in he can name a FEC chair who would instate the doctrine without any legislation needed.

Now that's scary.

The free exchange of ideas inevitably yields both heat and light.

The WSJ has columns by Karl Rove on their opinion site, which is free to the public and they will email it to you each and every happy day of your life.

He is an excellent writer and you would enjoy his columns. Here is a link to his most recent column, which I excerpt below.

Consider his treatment of Jeremiah Wright. After Rev. Wright repeated his anti-American slurs at the National Press Club, Mr. Obama said their relationship was forever changed – but not because of what he'd said about America. Instead, Mr. Obama complained, "I don't think he showed much concern for me."

Translation: Rev. Wright is an impediment to my ambitions. So, as it turns out, are some of Mr. Obama's previous pledges.

For example, Mr. Obama has said he "strongly supported public financing" and pledged to take federal funds for the fall, thereby limiting his spending to roughly $84 million. Now convinced he can raise more than $84 million, he reversed course last week, ditching the federal money and its limits. But by discarding his earlier pledge so easily, he raises doubts about whether his word can be trusted.

Last month he replied "anywhere, anytime" to John McCain's invitation to have joint town hall appearances. Last week he changed his mind. Fearing 10 impromptu town halls, Mr. Obama parried the invitation by offering two such events – one the night of July 4, when every ambulatory American is watching fireworks or munching hotdogs, and another in August. His spokesman then said, "Take it or leave it." So much for "anywhere, anytime."

My former White House colleague Yuval Levin pointed out that Mr. Obama, in his first national TV ad rolled out Friday, claims credit for having "extended health care for wounded troops," citing the 2008 defense authorization. That bill passed 91-3 – but Mr. Obama was one of only six senators who didn't show up to vote. This brazen claim underscores the candidate's thin résumé and, again, his chutzpah.

I find that I continually learn from Karl and hope that he continues to spread his analysis around, both on Fox and on the pages of the WSJ.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&arti...

Seeing as we have an open thread thought this might be fun.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

This is why computer geeks are never on the VP search committee. They are left brainers and this is a strictly right brain exercise (kinda like Lee Iaccoca (sp?) said about car purchases).

Colin Powell?!?! If there is anything left that could possibly get me to sit at home and let Opossum have the White House, it is the prospect of having one of the co-conspirators to the Valerie Plame/Scooter Libby screw up move into the #2 slot.

Powell has proven himself to be less than forthcoming when his media coverage is on the line. I'd be totally and completely off the reservation with a McCain/Powell ticket.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

If we had been picking the nominees with that program, we would have probably gotten McCain on our side, as the soiled R brand leads one to believe that a Maverick is just the thing we need to have a chance to win, thinking logically (which entails removing my Fredhead hat and doffing my Reagan cloak).

OTOH, there is no way it would have picked Opossum. He is a 100% right brain pick. The Ds went on feeeelings, whoaoaoao, feeelings and nothing more.

I suppose it is too late to retroactively check that out. But if I were the type to place a wager...

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

is tiny compared to the number of clods and retreads I would be vehemently opposed to.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

about how he would not stand by while his patriotism is attacked, that I decided to start daydreaming about what I would do if/when McCain is elected.

I don't know about the rest of you, but my celebrating will be immense. Maybe I'll run out my door in my bathrobe and rattle and blow my New Years Eve toys all around the block.

The dislike for Obama is so very strong, that it will be akin to a rescue from conflagration. I'm not Catholic, but if I were I'd probably light candles every day for a year in thanksgiving.

I don't drink, so can a bunch of you have one for me in honor of President McCain? The liquor sales alone will probably lift us out of the recession.

The free exchange of ideas inevitably yields both heat and light.

If Opossum wins, even those of us who don't drink will resort to a stiff one.

If he loses, enough of us will celebrate and the Nutroots will get totally polluted.

Come to think of it, if Opossum loses, there will be other mind altering substances consumed by the nutroots as well. I'm not sure how this will wash out, except that the porcelain throne will be exceedingly worshiped.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

 
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