They Comed Back!
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They comed back!
Well, I had a pretty big day ahead of me, cuz I had to go down and get my government unemployment check, so I was plannin on getting up early at the crack of 11:30. But don’t ya know, my dogs started barkin again and woked me up reel early – close to 10:00. Now they started barkin again jist like there was a coon or squirrel fussin with them, or like they do when a b*tch in heat is traipsing through the neighborhood. Or, when someone is fixin to walk through their yard.
Now this gets my suspicions up and so I looks out the window and sure enough, that old Plymouth Voyager van is back, this time with three guys in it. Now I don’t know if they think that with three of them they can take me – this is what we would call a fallacy – or if they think this new guy is more persuasive.
Naturally I had been sleeping on the pullout sofa in the living room, so I jump up and close it right up. Fact is, I wanted to talk to those guys again cuz I’ve been cogitating on what they said (before the fightin begun) and theys several things I wanna ask them.
I got the impression the last time from little things they said, that they didn’t have a whole lot of respect for me and mine. I figured if I want to talk to them as equals I better try to make a better impression, so I grab all the dirty underwear and socks and things scattered around the living room and throw it into a pile behind the TV where they won’t see it.
Quick like, I throw on a “America – Love it or Leave it!” T-shirt, without no holes in it, and a pair of overhauls I only weared once working on the engine of the van. Of course I don’t have time to find any shoes and socks, ‘specially since I just chucked them all behind the TV without thinking.
By now they should be at my door, but they ain’t. I looks out the window again and see that they is avoiding my home, instead goin to talk to my neighbors. Well, I knows my neighbors, and frankly they is a couple of intellectual lightweights, if you knows what I means. I watches a few minutes as they talk together on the front porch and then the new guy shakes my neighbors hand and they give him a couple bumper stickers what say [He-who-must-net-be-named] for President – Hope for America. I’m not sure what they was thinking, cuz that neighbor don’t even got a car – not even one up on blocks that he could fix up and drive, so I don’t know where he expects to put those bumper stickers.
Well, they leaves that neighbor now, and is lookin around to figure where to go next. I see that one of the guys from the other day still has a pretty good shiner, and he keeps lookin over at my house with a mean look in his eye. Since he’s lookin anyways, I takes this opportunity to step out onto the porch and smiling like, wave they to come on over.
Shiner guy jist gives me the “we’re number one sign” with his middle finger, but the new guy sees me and starts to come over. The other two confer with him, but as I am still smiling and waving them to come over, he seems to talk them into it. I hear him say, “Sheeple” to shinerguy, although I don’t know what that means. Now I is doing all I can to make them welcome as I wants to engage them in debate. Just yesterday I brushed both my teeth, and anyone can tell ya, when the green is off the teeth, I can be pretty engaging!
Now, once I gits them into the trailer, I sits them down on the put-back-together sofa, and I sits facing them in the armchair with the broken spring.
“I’ve been thinkin about what you said about fiat money,” I sez, “and I wanted to engage you in debate about that concept. Now it seems to me that what you is proposin will cause a huge disruption in the money system, and maybe bring about another Depression.”
The first two guys is looking back and forth, and at the new guy, who seems now to be their spokesman. He just smiles at them and under his breath like, mutters, “Sheeple.” I still don’t know what he means but I continues to smile.
“Let me explain,” I sez. “You say, that the govenment just keeps printin money, and since they ain’t any gold in the treasury to back that money, the money is jist worthless.”
“Essentially, that is correct,” sheepleguy agrees. “That is why [He-who-must-not-be-named] will return the US to a gold standard. Once our currency is backed by gold, it will have value in the world marketplace,” he sez.
“Okay, how much US money is there out there right now?” I asks, not really expectin an answer, so I continue right on. “Probley billions and billions (now I sound like that Carl Sagan guy) Maybe even trillions and trillions. Am I right?”
“Yeah, that’s about right,” sheepleguy agrees. “That is why it is worthless and why we must back it with gold.”
“Okay,” sez I. “I don’t know how much gold our country has, but I can guess that there ain’t enough gold in Fort Knox to cover all the dollars we got out there.” Now, I empty my coffee can and all my pockets onto the coffee table in front of me. Counting out the dollars and coins, “now it looks like I have about $10 in savings,” I sez. “If we only have enough gold in this country to back half of the money that is out there, if we go to your plan, won’t my $10 suddenly be worth about $5?”
“Under any monetary transition to a constitutional currency, there are bound to be temporary moments of discomfort for certain of our citizenry. What [He-who-must-not-be-named] is talking about is the necessity of returning ourselves to a constitutional basis for our government, and returning our country to a sound monetary policy that makes our currency truly valuable in world markets” sheepleguy explains.
From this I take him to have said, “Yes!”
“So under your plan, all those people who have savings built up and are now retired, will now have that savings totally wiped out?”
“They are having that savings wiped out right now, by inflation,” sheepleguy explains. “What we are proposing is what is better for the future economic health of our nation.”
“So you is proposin to pull the plug, rather than keep the patient alive on life-support?” I asks. Without waitin for an answer, I goes on.
“I don’t know how much gold there is in the US, but lets just say, for the purpose of demonstration, that the US has 2000 tons of gold to back our money. That’s about 4 million pounds, or 48 million ounces of gold.”
Now, shinerguy has been working his fingers as I say this, and right then he pops up with, “That’s not right. The figure would be 64 million ounces.” He looks real smug like he thinks he’s caught this stupid hick makin a simple math mistake.”
I gives him a look like I jist caught him with his finger up his nose – he should be embarrassed by don’t know it yet. “Which is heavier,” I ask him, “A pound of gold or a pound of feathers?”
“That’s a trick question,” he laughs like he thinks he’s got me. “They weigh the same. A pound is a pound!”
“Trickier than you think,” I sez. “A pound of feathers weighs more, cuz they is 16 ounces in a pound of feathers, and only 12 ounces in a pound of gold!”
“To continue, the price of gold has fluctuated a whole lot over the last 50 years. For years and years it was $35 an ounce, which would make that 48 million ounces worth about $1.68 billion dollars. Now lately, gold has hit $600 an ounce, making that same amount of gold worth $28.8 trillion. That’s a whole big difference. Now, we knows that gold ain’t never gonna be worth $35 an ounce again, but the difference between $400 and $600 can make a huge difference in the amount of money we got in this country.”
Sheepleguy is looking a bit confused. He clearly wants to cut me off, but I continue.
“Let us jist say that gold is worth $500 an ounce, making our money supply $24 trillion. We issue money to that amount, and it goes into the pockets of the American citizens. Now suddenly, lets say, there is a big gold mine find in Russia, to borrow from a Tom Clancy novel.” I throws this in jist to prove that I is well read in the classics!
“Now, this big gold find sends the world price of gold down to $300 an ounce. What we gonna do? Are we gonna go around and confiscate 40% of the money out there in the money supply, or do we jist say, ‘the price of gold will go up again, we jist pretend it hasn’t changed and keep our money valued at $500.’ And if we do that, what’s the difference between that, and what we do now?”
“It seems to me,” I sez, “…that if we do the former, we is bringing about a Depression. IF we do the latter, we is bringing on Inflation. So, what’s the difference between [He-who-must-not-be-named] and what we is already doing?”
Now, I knows that I have them cuz they is looking back and forth at each other, each looking for the other one to answer my question. Sheeplebuy looks at shinerguy and mutters, “Sheeple!”
“You keep using that word,” I sez. “What exactly does it mean?” And he tells me!
I figure my neighbor musta called the police the minute the three [He-who-must-not-be-named] people came into my home, because it was amazing how fast they got there this time. By the time the (two) cops led the three out to their van, it was impossible to differentiate between shinerguy, sheeple-shiner guy and other shinerguy! This time, I did get a warning. The cop said I was not to let these guys back into my house, cuz he was afraid I was gonna break my knuckles, and since I don’t have no health insurance, he didn’t want to have to pay for my visit to the emergency room! I thanked him for his advice and promised not to engage any [He-who-must-not-be-named] workers ever again.
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Lord Vegas is a true American. some would call him a Mutt, but he prefers the term "Mixed Breed" His full name is Lord Vegas Roy (WAA), named for a well-known hockey goalie who was also a dog! He prides himself on being a political animal. He supports Franz for President!
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Lord Vegas is a true American. some would call him a Mutt, but he pr
Don't just take my word for it. Witness all the Ronulans that won't even comment on these threads.
I have a mental picture of them pointing their fingers with their mouths open but no words coming out.
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without poorly behaved children barging through the door and yelling at you? Good work, Lord Vegas. I live in the rural south and your regional speech could use some work, but I will ignore that since you tackled one of He-Who's biggies and made short work of why it won't work. Keep it up! Please do his stance on Iraq next and then follow that with his notion of being an isolationist country again. I can't wait!
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I'm not impressed by what you think is a humorous attempt at some ethnic stereotype speech. Your sort of mocking comments really has no place here on RS along with comments that mock another's religion in my view. I'd prepare a Photon Harpoon for you if I could.
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The only people who talk like that are city Yankees either trying to sound Southern or making fun of Southerners or Southern commedians trying to sound like what they think city Yankees think Southerners talk like.
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ya got me scratchin behind my ear. Mockin subodys religion? Who is I mockin, the "Illuminati Bankers" that the supporters of [He-who-must-not-be-named] claim control all of the countries of the world?
Or the religion of "gold-standard" money. OK, I is mocking them, cuz I don't think that genie can be put back into that bottle.
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Lord Vegas is a true American. some would call him a Mutt, but he prefers the term "Mixed Breed" His motto is, "I can lick you with two paws tied behind my back!"
King's english speakers with phd's from Columbia. Make that 75%. Besides Steve, he didn't go off on valley girls.
btw, you might as well not bother with Twain or Faulkner.
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Too easy. I take offense from Hillary putting on a "Black" accent, as much as I take offense to someone putting on a "Hick" accent.
How's that?
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and with only a "little" exageration, its pretty darn close to what I hear my neighbors and (gulp) even some co-workers say on a regular basis.
Yes, it is a caricature of ignorant speech patterns often associated with states beginning with the letters Tennessee and Kentucky. However, poor speech patterns are not at all limited to those states, and quite frankly, the elites believe that is the way we all talk.
Oops! Had to check my logon...
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hardest at Beverly Hillbillies, for example, not realizing that we are laughing at ourselves sometimes!
we are a very secure people
and
dave, I hate to break this too you, but
you, not me, have the accent
but god loves you
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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www.theminorityreportblog.com
"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
www.race42008.com
www.hinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
There's special schools for those in the news business to not sound to "trailer". Actually not joking.
I think they call it the Omaha accent that they are going for.
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Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
they TEACH people to sound like me! Hey! I think I just figured out how to get rich. GC, wanna buy a tape on how to speak Wolverine?
THE UPSET, and they are giving me lessons inside a big butcher's hanging cooler behind the old esso. We give them cocolas (they call then "pop" - not geting the parental reference) and BBQ.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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floor. No disgrace at all to lose to 2 time in a row defending 1aa champ App St (who lost to Wofford - Spartanburg, South Carolina). Michigan can still win the B10. Wofford has declined the invitation!
Wofford is 70 miles from Clemson, who will hist the Chippewas on Satdy
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Dan Rather. They never squeezed Texas out of him and made him sound like a cookie cutter soap opera star! or weatherman
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... could make Junior Samples cringe.
"Whoa! Close the barn door and slap Grandma to sleep!"
Sheesh, what a dillwad.
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. - David St. Hubbins
Gilbert and Sullivan made money off of Britons laughing at themselves, once upon a time, too.
Yeah, some people are just more secure in their culture than others. Some are grievance mongers, but others just laugh.
that Dave has an accent. But I would be surprised if you didn't have one as well.
If you want to hear English without an accent - English English, shall we say, I am happy to oblige.
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Everyone knows that the King's English is only found east of the Hudson.
As far as the fever swamps of Charlotte and the like-
FUHGHEDDABOUDIT!
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I wasn't all that amused either, particularly because it was an inconsistent impersonation. If you're trying to do Southern hick, misuse of "is" is a dead giveaway to a fakeccent, such as here: "Now I is doing all I can to make them welcome as I wants to engage them in debate." It would have been much more accurate to write "Now Ahm doing all Ah can to make'em welcome, on account of Ah wanted to debate'em."
Also, not once did the speaker commence to anything. Down here, you aren't speaking hick if you don't commence to something. Not a good impersonation.
Seems to me he went for "hick" and only managed to impersonate "stupid". There does happen to be a difference (commence to giggling, yankees).
But I wasn't offended. I just wernt amused.
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I used fussin! Ya can't do anything in the South without someone fussin with you!
The point is NOT that all Southerners are stupid -- clearly, since they keep voting for Conservative Republicans, they are not. The point is that the LIBS see all Redstaters everywhere as stupid hicks who talk like redneck hillbillies. AND I would point out that the tern "hillbilly" did NOT originate in the South, but was used to describe the Michigan Potato Farmer -- the little mounds where he planted the potatoes looked like little hills.
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Lord Vegas is a true American. some would call him a Mutt, but he prefers the the term Mixed Breed. He has the utmost respect for Southerners and does not in any way intend to demean them with his writings.
You did ok, but not perfect by a country mile. I'll give you fussin though. I hear it about ten times a day.
I got your point, and as I mentioned, I was not offended. Nevertheless, you mixed up your accents, in my opinion, and deadened the funny. (Although if you weren't really going for funny it's a moot point.) This is coming from someone who uses ain't in everyday business conversation.
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Thats a really great overview of why Ron Paul's monetary system will not work. To think they thought you was reel dum....kinda like wat jon karry thinkx bout rr trooopes in irak....sorry guys but I had to get that one in there!
Life is not fair, but It's still a Wonderful Life!
I take your recommend as high praise!
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Lord Vegas is a true American. some would call him a Mutt, but he prefers the term Mixed Breed. He would like to vote for Franz for President if he would only lose those sissy-looking ribbons. As Moe would say -- this is not negotiable
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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Don't want "Ron Paul Storytime" to become a regular feature...but a serious exposition of why our current monetary system is more sound than Paul's alternative nonetheless. Recommended.
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your concern that we need to deal with these issues
I was an econ major before law school
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Funny- thanks, I enjoyed it.
As far as I'm able to tell, the US owns about 300 million ozt. of gold, which equates to a statutory value of about $12.5 billion. (US law values gold at $42 and change per ounce, unchanged from the Nixon days.) Market value would be more like $225 billion.
For contrast, the Federal budget deficit (which grew sharply in the quarter ending last month) is about $160 billion.
Total paper dollars in circulation, about $800 billion.
Broad monetary aggregates, believed to be in the neighborhood of $10 trillion.
US stock market capitalization, about $25 trillion the last time I figured it.
Total wealth owned by US citizens, about $55 trillion.
Current market value of all the gold ever mined in human history, maybe $2 trillion, give or take.
Current market value of all the gold ever mined in human history, maybe $2 trillion, give or take.
But current market value is ridiculous. If you tried to release onto the market the gold that is stored by government monopolies the price would collapse. The realisable value of current gold reserves is a fraction of the market value.
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...if every central bank in the world decided to divest their gold all at once. Thanks for that :-)
Obviously it would never happen that way for exactly the reason you give. Usually when someone wants to shred a huge amount of stock without tipping their hand, they call the block-trading desk at Goldman Sachs. Wonder who'd get the call to move that much gold.
And who'd be the buyer? India would probably speak to a chunk of it. Wonder if China would want any.
Ah well, back to the real world.
They could make an obscene markup, what with SOLID GOLD INTERCONNECTS!
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Let's nominate the Nash Equilibrium for President.
first actions as Chancellor of the Exchequer 10 years ago was to sell 50% of the Bank of England's gold reserves. He didn't do it in one go but - amazingly - when he sold the first tranche he announced that he would be selling the rest later. If I had been Blair I would have fired him on the spot.
His first actions as PM have been of quite a different character. First he cancelled the referendum on the European Constitution then he cancelled the early election he was planning. Don't know much about his views, and he clearly doesn't want to know mine.
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