Breaking nationwide Rasmussen poll: Giuliani 24%; Thompson 24%
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The most recent Rasmussen nationwide GOP primary poll shows ex-senator Fred Thompson now surprisingly pulling even with ex-mayor Rudy Giuliani, as Romney and McCain follow at 11% each.
On the front page of Rasmussen website as I write this.
The political landscape is about to change.
Why is it that whenever anyone laments FDT's lack of substance, they get called out for threadjacking?
Could someone please point me in the direction where the actual policies of FDT are being discussed here on RedState?
I hate to be such a stink. Call me a sucker for substance.
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History is all that will help us with the future
If someone puts up a poll, that's not the time to start yet another nitpick about FDT. If you want to nitpick FDT, make a Nitpicking FDT diary!
That's the beauty of this site: You can write your own article on why you feel that way about that issue, and publish it directly! No need to try to wedge it into the nearest related article you can find!
Run like Reagan!
(going slightly off-topic won't hurt *that much* - so I fall to temptation)
...it's not as if FDT is covert when it comes to opinions. He's a radio commentator and columnist for chrissakes! :P
lincolnmonroe
Bill, what is great about the Internet is everyone is ageless
so just picture yourself as a "Young Stallion" that can run with anyone in the herd!
If you have strong feelings about a situation or person inject your comments. If people like them fine, if they don't that's too bad.
You're right. It's just that:
-I'm old and don't know how to work the damn diary thing
-I'm afraid of being the center of attention
So I'd rather just follow you guys around if that's ok.
And it's not that I dislike Fred. I just have a lot of room to grow in my liking him phase.
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History is all that will help us with the future
Nobody ever seems to call out the anti-Rudy types for threadjacking, which inevitably happens on any thread remotely complimentary to Rudy.
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(Formerly known as bee) / Internet member since 1987
Member of the Surreality-Based Community
THIS is a diary about a poll. THAT was a diary about Rudy Giuliani's description of his own policy objectives.
In one instance, policy objectives are off topic. In the other, they are on topic.
See the difference?
Run like Reagan!
Fred Thompson's candidacy has been carefully promoted by the Liberal MSM globalists. That's because they know Fred is one of their own.
Pro Mcain-Feingold and pro-amnesty; that's Fred. I want a real conservative this time, not another Rockefeller Republican with a Southern twang.
You would do well to research what it is you’re talking about before sticking your foot in your mouth
Pro Mcain-Feingold and pro-amnesty; that's Fred
Hardly!
Founder and contributor to The Minority Report and Senior writer for The Hinzsight Report
Fred Thompson voted for McCain-Feingold. He was also co-chair of McCain's presidential campaign.
He advocates amnesty for illegal aliens "after securing the border".
Fred is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the sponsor of the "North American Community" plan.
Fred is a committed globalist.
Fredbots are even more pathetic than Bushbots used to be. Adults are supposed to be able to learn from experience!
"He advocates amnesty for illegal aliens "after securing the border"."
Source? Good luck with that.
As far as being a globalist, well okay. Unlike the Democrats and Ron Paul, Thompson obviously believes the U.S. has a role to play in the world and he takes that seriously.
Donate to Fred Thompson's Campaign right here...you know you want to!
It is getting interesting!
Run Fred Run!
"Wubbies World" aka: Brian; MSgt, U.S. Air Force (Retired): An argument is a sequence of statements aimed at demonstrating the truth of an assertion.
Apparently Liz Cheney is joining the Fredtrain now, too.
I didn't think Fred overtaking Giuliani would happen this early. I can't wait to see what happens when he announces. 40% anyone?
Donate to Fred Thompson's Campaign right here...you know you want to!
Romney leaves me satisfied, but not in love.
McCain is admirable and impressive, but so flawed...
Guiliani makes me swoon, but I can see too many problems after the honeymoon- so I have closed my heart to him.
Thompson... well, I want to believe he's the hero on a white horse... but I want to believe so badly that I'm a little wary- I need some evidence that he'll really go all the way. So I'm gonna wait until I've seen him in a few debates.
by Fred over at Townhall.com, or you can go to the ABC radio web site and get all his pod casts. There is a lot to read and hear on his positions.
"Wubbies World" aka: Brian; MSgt, U.S. Air Force (Retired): An argument is a sequence of statements aimed at demonstrating the truth of an assertion.
I respect Rudy, I think he is a great leader but his anti-gun record and stance coupled with the so-waffley-only-a-Kerry-could-love views on abortion make me Yack.
McCain - Well I have seen John live 2 times at events and BOTH TIMES he got into a shouting match with a ticket-buying guest who happened to ask a tough questions. (I couldn't believe it when it happened the second time!) The guy is a hot head and can't hold his mud when put on the spot. How in the heck is the going to handle the WH Press Corps?
And Mitt - well Mitt to me is like driving a Nissan; not a bad car, not a great car...it's just kind of bland. Perhaps add a spoiler or some hot tires and maybe it can be cool.
So with the so-called "Second Tier" becoming almost "speck-like" in the distance I think it is up to Fred. I hope he is all the the hype has said he is. I have always loved the man and he always held my attention. I heard him speak at the Medal of Freedom dinner in 2003 when he won. Still one of the best speeches I have ever heard...
Fred - You had better deliver buddy....
Max
Max Power and Mark Smann
The Laughing Elephant
http://thelaughingelephant.blogspot.com
on much of this, particularly the gun thing. He will HAVE to say outright "no new gun control" if he wants to win. He is wrong on the issue because gun control doesn't work. Then again, many think Romney is wrong on religion. Both positions are based on faith, not facts, but Rudy should be using facts not faith.
Molon Labe!
Among those that are running (or are about to), Rudy and Fred are my favourites. I hope they both have enough sense to not beat each other down-- they both seem like they do.
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And he could easily win the nomination. No he can not win it easily, but it easily could happen. I like Fred, Fred is more a classic conservative, I would be glad to see Fred win the nomination.
However, the key word is "WIN" the nomination. Up 'til now, other than a few speeches, Fred is nothing more than hype and "none of the above". Fred will have to fight a long campaign, show he really wants to be president, and convince Republicans he can defeat the Democrats. He has not done any of that yet.
I think, well, know, many are on the Fred Bandwagon already, this really makes no sense at all. We need a winner, neither Rudy or Fred have become winners yet. One of them will be a winner, and I hope that person is our BEST chance to win and will be the BEST qualified to be president.
I have problems with several Rudy positions, yet I want him (and Romney) to be strong candidates so we can have the best playing against the best. If Fred wins without a serious battle, we may have buyers remorse during the general.
Molon Labe!
I'll tell you why I'm on the FDT wagon right now: Of the top three Republican candidates before his entry, two of them I could never vote for in the general election. The third is better than that, but one I'm highly skeptical of at this point.
FDT is head and shoulders above them all just by default, heh.
Run like Reagan!
I am just saying "default" is not enough. He must prove himself. Rudy is no wallflower, and people who think Fred is just going to walk away with this once he finally gets in are simply wrong.
Molon Labe!
He lacked enthusiasm and charisma on the Tonight Show. He's going to have to do better than that.
You must have never seen him speak before. That's how he always is - he's laid back. He's not a psychotic who desires the presidency more than anything and that is what a lot of people like about him. If you're desiring someone who is ravenous about the campaign and recites lines from stump speeches rather than just telling it like it is, there are other candidates out there.
Donate to Fred Thompson's Campaign right here...you know you want to!
Fred has written so many articles in the last 6 months. The transcripts of his radio appearances are also available online.
If someone is complaining that they don't know where Fred stands on the issues, I strongly suggest that they aren't trying to inform themselves at all.
Plenty of material out there. But of course, its much easier just to say something like "hey, I don't know where he stands on the issues."
Let me try it.
Hey, I don't know where Mitt Romney stands on the issues? Is that you fault, no its my fault because I am not paying attention, but I thought I would make my statement nonetheless.
I think one could make a pretty good argument as to why they aren't sure they know where Romney stands on the issues ;)
Donate to Fred Thompson's Campaign right here...you know you want to!
lincolnmonroe
This large group of would be candidates jumped out on us a couple of months ago and most of them have well known track records. I didn't really see anyone in the initial gathering of candidates that made me believe one of them was the second coming of RR and I don't think many conservatives did either.
Now Fred comes in while people are still pondering what this first group can offer saying to themselves "is this what we have to work with?"
I think Fred took a big jump in the polls because most people haven't been overly satisfied with what we were seeing and are afraid we are going to get screwed by installing another RINO in office.
I just hope Fred is what he is percieved to be.
Still checking.
With all due apologies to those working hard for other candidates, I'd love to see a two-man race between these guys for the Republican nomination. I think they are different enough and yet each charismatic enough to have a substantive debate that really adds something to the national conversation.
I'd like to see the newer version of Gore appear on the Democratic side for the same sorts of reasons.
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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.
SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.
I like Fred as an actor, politician, and for the fact the man can present a message. I just wish his site would start posting some issue things...
"Diplomacy --- the art of saying "Nice doggie" 'til you can find a stick." Wynn Catlin