It's 60 years old. It's corny as all get out. It's also very current...
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This little video is nine minutes long and is as relevant today as when it was made 60 years ago. The money comments are at eight minutes in, but it's worth the wait.
Ahh yes. Class warfare. Some things just never change.
The really disturbing thing is that class warfare used to be just the perview of the Democrats. Now, thanks to Mike Huckabee, we have people in the Republican Party who are not just making excuses for class warfare, they're openly embracing it.
Well, I for one am fed up with the class warriors. Huck, if you want to create a populist heaven go back to Arkansas and do it there. As for all of you who are embracing The Huckster and his suitcase full of "Ism", you can go with him.
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Although he talks about Main Street and struggling families he is not advocating BigGov solutions in Washington to address this problem. It is good that he is addressing these folks, now he should start advocating some free-market solutions to these problems. He needs Romney as a policy-wonk!
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spilling. For a guy who doesn't like government solutions, how come the Arkansas government was over four times bigger when the Dope from Hope left office. And then there's his willingness to sign off on a national smoking ban.
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...and then he talks about the people he declares are NOT Main Street. He sets up an us vs them.
and gee, as it turns out, the people he says aren't Main Street tend to be wealthy investors, rather than middle American employees.
Sounds like Marxism to me...
Since when do Republicans believe that the lifeblood of our economy, corporations and their executives, are the enemy? Why does he refer to those executives as "the guy who laid you off?" How about some respect for the guys who employ millions. Our party is usually the one that recognizes that capitalism is the best solution to unemployment, not its cause.
Keep in mind Huckabee has no college education so he has no idea how the economy works or has he any understanding of what is free market capitalism or socialist/marxist policies are, all he knows is Business=bad because thats all liberals seem to know period.
These people supporting him might as well be voting for Jim Jones, David Koresh, or that Applewhite nutjob. I'm glad that not all Evangelicals are for this man's scam politics, those that do need help! He has corrupted The Bible on so many levels it's scary.
Keep in mind Huckabee has no college education so he has no idea how the economy works or has he any understanding of what is free market capitalism or socialist/marxist policies are
And a college education would assure that he would understand? You ain't been in class lately have you? There are plenty of reasons to bash The Huckster, but lack of college education is the dumbest approach yet!
Just finished my degree actually and I learned a ton of about the economy and politics, but that was because I majored in it obviously. Would it hurt though that our President have some form of post secondary education?
My professors had no open political agenda they were more into teaching the stuff then injecting their own views.
If your argument is "He went to a college that was worse than Harvard", then fine.
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pscblazer20, who would you rather side with in an intellectual debate, Rush Limbaugh or John Kerry? I went to college, you went to college, and neither one of us could hold a candle to Rush's almost college-less intellect. I know you probably didn't mean it, but you came across as an elite. By the way, I don't support the Huckster either.
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which is accurate, I would disassociate myself from your attempts to agree with me in the body of your post. Attacking his education and comparing him to cultists are counterproductive arguments.
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He "balanced the budget" by raising taxes
"Built roads" by raising taxes
"Fixed education" by raising taxes
He advocates a Federal ban on abortion
He advocates a national smoking ban
He was among the losers who raised their hands in support of action on global warming
How many more do you need?
Like Thompson said, this is not the model of the Reagan Republican Party. It's the model of the Modern Democrat Party.
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Supply side doesn't operate at that level, and as conservative federalists, we say that the FEDERAL govt should be smaller. States have to do things! And the stats against Huck don't take into account the needs of various states.
We should oppose Huck based on the policies he proposes for the future.
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I think that internal migrations are proving that false. Compare the plight of states like Michigan with the growth and success of states with prosperous Republican policies.
that level nor as efficiently. At the huge federal level it is much more likely to increase revenues w/o regard to migration. At the state level, not nearly as efficiently.
Plus, in a small, relatively poor state, it had to make capital investments to get migration into the state to invest.
The GOP needs to understand the federalist reality. We want to devolve govt down to the states for more accountability and Huck was re-elected. Plus, when one looks at the absolute burden, ie 1 cents sales tax increas for example, the charges against Huck are unfair and overblown.
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The Laffer effect is that of increased incentive. And the possibility of internal migrations due to those changed incentives only multiplies that effect.
If anything the Laffer effect is *reduced* at the national level because there's no practical way to migrate away from it, because we have more or less a monopoly on freedom in this world.
argue for it all the time on redstate, and yes, it has an effect on incentives and thus revenues at the fed and STATE level. My point is that at the state level, the state HAS to do some things that are also necessary to incentivize commerce and that the effect on revenues is not as pronounced by rate cuts in normal circumstances.
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Is your argument that in some circumstances, the Laffer decrease in revenue and economic growth from higher taxation will be offset by an increase in revenue from the programs and higher spending that are afforded by the higher taxation?
If so, then I'd want to pore over the Arkansas budget when Huck was elected, and see if there wasn't plenty to cut to begin with, heh, so that he could have gotten the spending wihtout the taxes.
effects on revenues.
At the federal level, we don't have to, and in most cases are not empowered to pay for things that is the province of the states.
At the state level, they have to pay for necessities and they are at the more accountable level.
See, I don't need to pore over the Arkansas budget knowing how poor they were; the need for capital improvements not only to compete with other states, but also simply to induce their own citizens to invest, and the relatively low rates they started at.
Raising a 1 cent tax to two cents is a 100% increase and so looks worse in a tv ad than is its effect on actual people.
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Huckabee moved them from far below average to above average in tax burden.
And the reason I bring up the budget, is that I'd want to know if the money could be found to make those capital improvements without raising taxes. Conservatism is all about tradeoffs, after all.
account the factors I cited above. They just look at relative increases without taking into account needs and absolute burdens.
Plus, I have found that too many here at RS can't seem to grasp that our call for smaller govt is esp a call for the fed govt to quit doing what states should do and that SOME govt is necessary.
Too many demonize good GOP guvs for ANY tax increase.
Huck is my FIFTH choice based on his proposed policies.
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doesn't mean I'm as smart as Neil! or You.
Heck, that's why I 'm here, for help.
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Achance and I have actually gone several rounds on this. It just took me a minute to realize you were making his argument on this :-)
I think we just have to agree to disagree on it, heh.
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People in long developed and long prosperous places do not understand what governments must do in The South, the Intermountain West, and Alaska.
To address Neil's point, I'm sure there were some things that could be cut; there are in any government. But that is on the margins and is really inconsequential in the long impoverished or undeveloped states. Also most of the tax burden and per capita spending comparisons aren't apples to apples since they don't account for governmental structure or state of development.
And, God, how I hate to sound like I'm defending Huckabee on this.
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California has an infrastructure initiative on the ballot for Super Tuesday. I'm voting against it, heh.
As Neil has rightfully pointed out, the migration of the productive people out of states with high STATE taxes blies your comment on Supply Side Economics.
That aside, you may notice I didn't say anything about Cutting Taxes. I said that I take issue with the reasons he Raised them.
He raised taxes to BALANCE THE BUDGET. You've got to be kidding me. There was Nothing in that budget that could have been cut back? Seriously? Name me a single state that's operating on a bare min budget.
He raised taxes to BUILD ROADS. Seriously? No way to get that money from any of the umpteen million unneccessary programs the state is running?
He raised taxes to FIX EDUCATION. Ummm, last I checked, only the Liberals think that throwing money at the problem is going to really do something substantive. How about redirecting where the money you're already giving them goes? How about working a little on the over-regulation of the education system and the spinelessness of the administrators?
There is no reasonable way he needed to raise taxes for these things.
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other states AFTER Huck's term and my point on supply side was as to tax revenues. I certianly agree that states can drive people away with RELATIVELY high taxes.
Most of the comparisons of Huck and Arkansas with other guv's terms look only at % tax increases without regard to absolute taxes or needs of the state.
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But, like I said with my second point, and you just mentioned: Needs of the State.
There's no way they couldn't have found that money elsewhere in the budget. Every state has it, even Alaska.
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I would suspecy that most states could fire most of the education "administrators" and actually improve education, but I don't know the amount.
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the total state/local tax burden in Arkansas skyrocketed during Huckabee's term in office. Today it stands at approx. 11.3% of total income, 13th in the nation. In 1995, before Huckabee's administration, total tax burden was 9.9%, 35th in the nation.
Oh, by the way, spending increased approx 50% during his administration from around $10B in 1998 to over $15B in 2006 - not a huge rate of increase, but significant nonetheless.
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50% is a huge RATE of increase.
5Bil may not be a very large absolute increase when it comes to government spending, but as far as I'm concerned, it's too much.
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Around 5-7 or so percent a year. Not too far over the rate of inflation.
Sure it's too much - one would love to see government shrink, not increase, especially in a state that is required to have a balanced budget. And I'm sure that 50% is a large part of why Huckabee had to jack up taxes like he did. I was trying to be as gracious as possible.
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...and hopefully Rush Limbaugh will pick up on it and mention it on the air.
Utterly brilliant. Even more relevant now than when it was first produced. It's a shame this can't be aired on TV as part of a Republican media campaign.
Recommended! Thanks for finding it and posting it.
and I am still relevent, and yes some times corny too.
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Huckabee needs to see this. He missed this education while he was getting endorced by the NEA.
I am going to have each of my kids watch this!
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This was the greatest old video I've ever seen. Simply Golden. If we want to be free we've got to keep this country free!
Applying an anti-communist video to someone with a record of raising net taxes is a far, far reach indeed.
Or is this a reference to his comments about CEO compensation? Let's ask this, then. Would you be willing to have the efficiency of the free market judged by looking at CEO compensation? If not, I don't see how your position differs from Huckabee's statement in any real way.
A little populism is not a bad thing. How the rights of the poor are best secured is the key question.
a little class warfare is not a bad thing
a little lying and manipulation is not a bad thing
a little theft is not a bad thing
a little bad economics is not a bad thing
a little stupidity is not a bad thing
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"A little populism is not a bad thing. How the rights of the poor are best secured is the key question." What rights of the poor?....
Guess what, as a conservative and capitalist I don't care about the rights of the poor! If your poor go get a job, but don't depend on the government to be providing for you because as a taxpayer, I'm Fed up with paying for other people's crap that I don't get any of! I'm sick of paying for Welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Mortgage Loan Bailouts for those who bought $100k houses and either couldn't make the payments or just didn't bother because they knew they didn't have the money, it is NOT the government's job to provide any of these paternalistic programs! And don't give me this crap about it's hard for poor people etc etc. Studies show poor people aren't as bad off as people like Gov. Machiavelli claim them to be.
As for CEO Compensation, if the CEO's of Apple or Wal Mart or whatever company make billions a year GOOD For Them! They earned it, You Didn't! You don't like it don't shop there period. Its none of yours or the government's business to know how much a CEO makes, the shareholders and board of directors decided what to pay the CEO not you or the U.S. government.
Mike Huckabee is not a populist..he's a Fascist!
He hasn't gone totally overboard, yet...
Anyway, I just wanted to point out that while a great many of those CEO and even members of the board don't really deserve the money they're getting, they are the ones who worked their way to those positions, and anyone else who wants to work their way up there can receive just as much money as they do.
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to bedevil this Country over the last century and a half.
I, for one, would be willing to have "the efficiency of the free market" determine CEO compensation. That said, I don't believe there is a free market when socialism has driven our tax structure such that CEOs are rewarded more for their abilities as stock speculators than for their ability to manage an enterprise that profitably produces a product line.
As to populism in any historical sense, the farmers should have raised less corn and more Hell. Not even the most rabid free-enterprise, free trade advocate can defend the monopolistic practices of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. The era wasn't as bad as the "Robber Baron" mythology from the left makes it out to be - all economic strate did grow wealthier - but some populism and redistributionist economics were a good thing then.
The Republican Party MUST find a way to deal with the perceived and all too often real economic insecurity in this Country that much of the populace attributes to Republican economic and free trade policy. The Ds have pandering to it down to a fine art. We resolutely stick to the free trade is a rising tide that raises all boats mantra when it is demonstrably not so to the guy who once had a good manufacturing job and is now working in retail or a service industry. It would indeed be foolish and short-sighted to subsidize an industry that simply could no longer compete. I beleive it to be equally foolish and short sighted to subsidize making an industry uncompetive through the tax system or to subsidize an industry going offshore.
I'm not really a Huckabee fan since I don't think he's much thought this stuff out but rather is doing a bunch of D-style pandering, but there is a reason he has resonance, and the Republican Party had best figure out how to deal with it.
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The government absolutely Must stay out of the economy. Welfare paternalism, regulations, taxes, and quotas why people can't find jobs.
Not everyone can pull themselves up on their own but the solution is for government to get off of people's backs.
Dang, I did pretty well in Con Law and somehow entirely missed the part of the constitution that gives specific rights to the poor. I must've had a lousy professor.
But what about MY rights? and my family's rights and my friends' rights and my coworkers' rights and my boss's rights and rich peoples' rights?
Every time people talk about "the rights of the poor" they seem to forget that this nation was founded on the idea that no one is inherently more valuable than anyone else. Not the poor over the rich and middle class or any other combination thereof. We are ALL equal.
So, what about the rights of the rich and the middle class?
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So now we must ask ourselves this question, What has big business ever done to the 'little guy' in this country? I've lived here 35 years, and never once did some CEO or big business interrupt my life or cause harm to me. So what is it with this Huckabee mantra about how the 'Elitist' Republicans are forgetting the 'little guy'? This is plain and simple Liberal Class Warfare. The fact that you Huckabee supporters think that you are owed something from the Government, or that electing the Huck is somehow going to get you out of poverty by raising taxes on the very businesses that are driving this economy and creating jobs is Ludicrous. The idea that electing some kook Liberal that is anti-abortion is going to somehow validate the Evangelical existance is plain stupid and irrational. Thompson is right! Huckabee is a Liberal, and a mindless Populist using class warfare, religion, and Identity Politics to create some false notion that there is a big division amongst Conservatives. There was a time when people who called themselves Conservatives wanted the Government out of their lives. This idea that the Government owes you something, or that the Pastor Clown Huckabee is going to somehow stand up for your rights is just plain ridiculous. This is Liberal Politics 101, and it practiced by your Clown Pastor.
the two you mention started it, but the other two made it so complete...
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today. First of all, there is a writers strike....
Liked that little gem at the end, who'd a thunk it?
I like the shot of the prisoner in stripes and the austere cell eating a nice meal as an example of no cruel and unusual punishment. The Left would regard the austere cell and stripes AS cruel and unusual punishment!
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At first I thought this video was going to be about Fred because the little guy was asleep at the beginning. Then I thought Mitt because so many viewpoints were offered. Rudy was out because it was pre 911. John was around then but he was just a teenager. Then it came to me. It must be about Hillary/Obama. Thanks for the focus. President Huckabee (really nice ring) Thanks you.
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Hey you're just like Mike Huckabee: You have no grasp of principles beyond saying what it takes to elect Mike Huckabee.
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I got some better names for you.
Jimmy Carter II (aka Mike Huckaboob)
Imam Huckaboob
Mullah Huckaboob
Totally Clueless Huckaboob
George McGovern Huckaboob.
Those are much nicer to my ears and eyes.
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Far better show than "Conjunction-Junction" [shudder]
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Does this show our age, or what?
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