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"We make Hitler look reasonable"

Hitler was a firm believer in evolution and darwinism. Natural selection. Perhaps its greatest believer. It was natural for the nations to battle each other, with the survival of the fittest playing itself out. Judaism was called by Hitler "the great poisoner of nations" because they lived in various nations and "screwed up the game".

I am not saying Hilter would have supported Israel, but based on the ideology he preached, once Israel had its own country, it could play the darwinist game right along with the other nations.

Twisted as they might be, these new Nazis are at least true to the creed of their master.

People say Hitler was a true believer in darwinism...I am not an expert but look at this, a list of banned books in Nazi Germany. Or more specifically, guidelines of books to be banned.

Right on the list is

Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism

This occurs on the list a few spots below "Literature with liberal, democratic tendencies and attitudes, and writing supporting the Weimar Republic" and a few spots above "Literature by Jewish authors, regardless of the field." Jews and Liberal Democracies...not exactly on Hitler's fave five. And Darwin is right there on the list.

Hitler isn't what you or I would call having a consistent , coherent philosophy, more of a frothing-at-the-mouth hatred and general [censored]-ness.

For the record, I want to say that even if Hitler was big on Darwin, that would say nothing on a)anyone else believing in evolution past, present, and future, or b)the truth of Evolution and Natural Selection.

I don't know anyone who claims that evolutionists are nazis, but I do see alot of evidence that suggests that nazis were greatly influnced by evolution.

I do not believe that Hitler was an atheist, but instead had a strong footing in paganism.

He took and distorted alot of religions, particularly christianity, but used alot of pagan symbols and ceremonies in his personal life. . .

Regardless, I don't think one can look at the calls for the "Master Race" and not see references to social darwinism's 'survival of the fittest'

Unless one was willingly trying to not see it.

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I'm not sure where you get this theory from but in the UK the latest census population breakdown was:
71.6% Christian
2.7% Muslim
1.0% Hindu
0.6% Sikh
0.5% Jewish
0.3% Buddhist
1.0% Other Religion
15.5% No Religion
7.3% Not given

Now I don't have birthrate stats but 2.7% can double several times an it's still miles in the minority. Furthermore that 2.7% will break down into a bunch of different sects with conflicting views on near everything.

It's plain daft to think of them as a monolithic block opposed to the west unless you're trying to sell a "Europe's Doomed, I Tell You" book. That said there are plenty of issues we need to deal with here including some of the excesses of multiculturalism (most of which are pushed by secular liberals rather than religious groups).

I yield to no man in my opposition to Al-Q and Similar and their fellow travellers in the West and I do agree that Islam can easily be taught in a way that leads to jihadi beliefs, however it does not have to, and I do not see the reason for no seek a conflict between the West and the 1.5 (or so) billion Muslims in the World).

you are wrong to assume that it will take a long time for the Muslim population to soar. As older people start dying off the numbers can jump pretty fast. Mostly through immigration. And as your population ages with fewer young people the call for more immigration will arise as companies need workers.

Muslims only need to be about twenty five percent before they try to take over the country. They will have the youth, the anger, the belief in a righteous cause. What will Europeans have? NOTHING, you gave up all your patriotism, your will, you sought a collective identity and threw away your national identity.

Look at what Muslims have already accomplished with their small numbers. They have subverted the freedoms of Europeans they have gotten parts of Sharia law accepted, at least in small enclaves.

As for a war with Islam? Your way of thinking is part of why you are doomed. The entire world has been at war with Islam since the year Mohammad first raised an army of followers.

It does not depend on whether you believe it or not. It does not matter if you have nice, smiling, non-hostile Islamic neighbors. The ideology behind the religion is absolutist, and absolutely intolerant. It has no compatibility with freedom, democracy, or modernism.

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Kyle

I'm guessing your ignorance of Europe and it's people is helping you here. Though less obvious than in America, there is still a clear idea on the nation and it's values and I cannot see any European country acquiescing in it's islamicisation by a minority group.

More worrying is that you seem to share a lot of beliefs with Al-Q. Namely that islam is all about violent Jihad, that democracy must be opposed, that moderate Muslim beliefs are an incorrect reading of the Koran, that WOT is somehow the same conflict as the crusades and that the west is opposed to all Muslims regardless of how much they might oppose (or even be suffering from) Al-Q and other jihadis.

I want to see the west win the WOT, which will take at least a generation, but your belief set will hinder that by telling Muslims that they should support Al-Queda and fight the West. Are you telling the millions of Iraqis that voted for parties that supported continuing Coalition presence that they were wrong and their voted was anti-islamic? Do you think we can win in Iraq if we're fighting the whole population not just the murderous fanatics we're up against at the moment?

It those are your views, I'd say you're part of the problem.

As for a war with Islam? Your way of thinking is part of why you are doomed. The entire world has been at war with Islam since the year Mohammad first raised an army of followers.

You know, the Jewish community had a big blossoming in Spain when it was controlled by Muslims. There was a Golden Age of Jewish Culture at the time. After Reconquista ended in 1492, the Spanish Inquisition followed soon after. So, at least from a Jewish perspective, Muslims were better than Christians. Spain is the most prominent example but my understanding is it is true for most of medieval Islamic-controlled areas. I mean, Maimonides was Saladin's freakin physician. I don't think he considered himself at war with

Also, my understanding (though I am not an expert) is that Islam spread peacefully through Africa, particularly Mali. Random fact: when Mansa Musa did his pilgrimage to Mecca he brought with him 32,000 pounds of gold, and basically gave it all away. He also brought 12,000 slaves...seriously, who needs 12,000 slaves?