Piercing The Veil Of Political Correctness To See The Real Barack Obama
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This election is serious business fella's!
We've not seen a Super Liberal the likes of this before. This is a whole new world we're facing, we are locked in a struggle for the heart and soul of our country. If we don't play our cards right on this hand, well there's no getting the toothpaste back in the tube baby.
Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, name your favorite Dem you luv to hate...Hah! All pansies compared to what we will see crawling out from under the rocks in the rose garden if the would be Obama Administration meets its aim.
And make no mistakes, the Democrat's War machine is revving up and getting ready to do battle via fax machines, laptops, cable TV, and those glassy eyed, hair brained political pundits they roll out.
So today when I heard about McCain and his overly altruistic pre-accuasation addmission of guilt, and acceptance of responsibility, for Bill Cunningham's saying Sen. Obama's middle name whilst rallying event goers. I was a little dumbfounded, and actually, sort of PO'd with Sen. McCain. Rightly so, as it turns out the words Bill Cunningham spoke were harmless and pretty typical for rally banter. I've heard virtually the same thing at dozens of political events over the years, I actually thought he did a great job!
Listen, I'm a nice guy, ask my family, employees, neighbors, etc. And I'm the last one to want to be in conflict with anyone if I can avoid it. But I sure as heck feel uneasy sitting back and watching as our presumptive Republican Presidential Nominee writes political welfare checks to the Obama camp.
Though I don't think it behooves us to walk the streets of our home towns asking the towns folk what they're thinking of that "Hussein" cat. I will say yes, we should feel comfortable in our own skins saying his middle name anytime it's appropriate. I never heard anyone say they didn't want to call George Bush the 1st, George Herbert Walker Bush because it might offend him. It makes no sense outside the context of the PC veil the Democrats drape over everything not to do so.
Not that it was ever a real good idea, but to try and be politically correct in this day and age, intentionally ignoring the facts of Sen. Obama's life, pretending they are not what they actually are, or worse knowing what they are, but being afraid to state them for fear of liberal reprisal is practicing a form of social handicapping, political welfare if you will. I hope thats not what we've come to be about.
Keep in mind, as much as the Democrats love their entitlements out in the real world where we're paying for them, they're not doling any of it out in the political arena, that much is certain.
So, we should as reasonable, well intentioned adults, at the very least hold them accountable for the facts of the individual's life they propose to pony up in a presidential election.
I'm simply saying we should speak the truth.
That being said, here are some of those veil protected facts that if we talk about, we're labeled bigots, the very same facts that make Barack Hussein Obama, the Barack Obama we see today. The one trying with all the powers at his disposal to become the next President of the United States.
* His Parents named him Barack Hussien Obama, not us.
* He was schooled in Jakarta in the predominately Islamic country of Indonesia. He attended Muslim school there for several years.
* His Father had a drinking problem, but unlike the story Sen. Obama likes to spin regarding his father being a goat herder, he was actually a successful farmer who lived well monetarily speaking. It would be akin to saying GW Bush's Father owned a local corner gas station?
* He has questionable relationships with radical elements in the US.
* He had marijuana and cocaine drug problems up and through his college years, and it is one that he seemingly makes light of on every venue he can. "Inhaling was the whole point" and the like are cute ways of not addressing the issue, but quite honestly you're kind of looking for a different answer if you're trying to raise children in America this day and age.
* His campaign is supported by individuals, groups, and organizations that Conservative voters are appalled by.
* And if it isn't bad enough he won't put his hand on his heart during the National Anthem, which you'd just have to think a fellow running for President in front of a rally crowd would automatically do? Now we find he also has publicly denounced the ubiquitous American flag on the lapel idea. Whats that all about? Why publicly denounce something like that?
* He has chosen to be one of the most liberal Senators in the Senate.
* He supports virtually everything we are against.
* The simple truth is he has no there - there in terms of backing up his political rhetoric? How can people fall for this, I don't know?
* And in closing, one more thing, just because it is a peeve of mine, he is a smoker. (But this time we're talking cigarettes.)
I for one refuse to vote for someone, or not, based on a politically correct Democrat generated version of who and what they are.
Does ANY of this stuff you don't like about him have anything to do with his middle name?
Didn't think so.
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/randomguy/2008/feb/26/why_emphasizing_bara...
"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas
... if we even utter it. Otherwise, no.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
...who repeatedly emphasize the middle name for the purposes of insinuating that he is Muslim, when he is not?
And, if you admit that such people exist, why would you want to imitate them?
Let me remind you of George Smathers. Never heard of George Smathers? He's the guy who, during a congressional run, said the following of his opponent, Claude Pepper:
George Smathers once called Claude Pepper a "extrovert," who had "frequently marticulated on campus," and who had a sister who was a "known thespian." He also accused Pepper of "engaging in celibacy before marriage," and of being a "practicing Homo Sapien."
Why would we want to be associated with idiocy like this? Let's win this election on real issues, not fraudulent innuendo.
I voted early in the Florida primary. Find out who and why.
...shouldn't there be some balance here?
People who are doing nefarious activities will be what they will be.
But should we, as reasonable, well intentioned folks shy away from addressing things as they really are? Shouldn't we let the Dems be the ones squirming around trying to avoid all this?
I have trouble with that.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
Or would you rather be discussing whether it's necessarily racist to mock Obama's middle name? Pardon me, "point it out".
Because, I guarantee you, the next time someone makes a post and uses Obama's middle name, someone else will make a post about how it's tacky to keep using his middle name.
And the post author will post about how it's not necessarily racist, perhaps even resent the implication. Perhaps even ask if the people getting all upset about the name being pointed out aren't the real racists.
And the response will come that Z.
And the response will come that, no, Y.
And the response X will follow that one.
And then someone else will jump in to point out W.
And then someone else will post about how they agree with the original poster and don't see what the big deal is with Hussain.
And someone else will spell it Hussein.
And someone else will point out V.
And someone else will point U, T, S, R, Q, and P.
And then someone else will post a post a lot like this one.
And you know what we won't be talking about?
Obama's view on nukes.
Or his view on anything.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire
...I mean Rush Limbaugh started to use Obama's middle name more than a year ago, and Ann Coulter regularly uses his middle name, calling him "President Hussein." Michael Savage does the same... I just don't see this Bill Cunningham talk as being such a big deal, particularly had McCain hadn't discharged his weapon with out knowing what the target was.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
About George Smathers--what is your point? You left off the most important sentence in your quote--the one that came right after "Homo Sapien."
"Smathers won in a landslide."
The "Third Worst Person in the World" and aiming higher.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
Whenever he sees a diary about Obama's middle name on a Conservative blog.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
The reason not to go out of your way to use his middle name has nothing to do with political correctness. The reason is that it's a cheap shot which will turn off the independent voters we need to win this election.
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...how McCain reacted to it. It's more that I guess I just have to believe we must hold them accountable for at the very least, the basic facts of who they're proposing to pony up, I mean come on?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
I don't get what the first three points have to do with him running for President. And HuffPo has a picture of Pres George H W Bush (41) not putting his hand on his heart during the National Anthem, I don't think that makes him unpatriotic.
As for the flag pin thing, I agree with Obama. I think that this stems from him not wanting to do the usual politician stuff. Like the flag lapel pin is a rather politician-y expression of patriotism to me, as if to say "How dare you criticize me, I am wearing a flag pin, you must be criticizing America." And he did not really make a public pronouncement about it; he was asked in an interview, at least as far as I can tell from the video.
the "usual politician stuff". Without any real record, that's all he's got.
Maybe now that Michelle is proud of her country, she'll tell him to put on the flag pin.
...make up your own mind then. Why do you like him? Say hi to your Dad, or whoever was here earlier.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
I take it that you will from now on refer to McCain as John Sidney McCain III, no? It's pretty clear that Barack Obama refers to himself as Barack Obama, and it's basic civility to use the person's name as intended. This is no different than when certain immigration hardliners referred to McCain as Juan McCain. There's no place in reasoned discourse for this idiocy. Inserting Obama's middle name serves no practical purpose except to play to people's emotions by slapping down the Muslim card and the fear card.
I thought the conservative movement addressed issues and candidates with intellect and reason, rather than going down to the basest common denominator and skirting the edges of religio-ethnic bigotry. The Republican Party has a problem appealing to minority groups, and Cunningham's acts do exactly nothing to endear those minorities to the GOP.
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...over Bill's mentioning the man's middle name, it's really not such a BIG DEAL. It is however to the democrats at this point, who are relishing in every second of your yoga like dexterity as you bend over backwards to angst over it. The guy walked out on stage to rev up the crowd, he's that personality everyday on talk radio in that market, those people have heard that stuff day in and day out for a year now. Come on now, lets not fall all over ourselves here, if we can't say his middle name after all? Whats next!
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
...if you think Bill Cunningham saying Obama's middle name tips the scale for John G. Washington, or Miguel D. Hernandez I sure hope you're wrong. If people identify with the freedom loving principles our party provides they will also identify with what BC said yesterday. What do you want to do Charles, sneak minorities in under false pretenses, then spring on them what we stand for?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
I disagree. This is a huge deal, especially in a campaign season where misleading/dishonest attacks and dirty tricks have backfired. The Dems and their media allies will look for every opportunity to accuse GOPers of racism and hatred, and Cunningham just served up a heaping helping of religio-ethnic bigotry. Inserting Obama's middle name serves no purpose, especially since he is not and never was a Muslim, his parents were non-religious, and because the son had no say in how he was to be named.
Answer this question: Do you have any legitimate reason for using Obama's middle name? If so, will you agree henceforth to refer to McCain as John Sidney McCain III?
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..."misleading/dishonest attacks and dirty tricks"...? I've made no such overtures. I have approached the objective of this diary with whatever discernment and prudence I possess.
Now, is it comprised of sympathetic, affectionate discourse on the affirmative bearing of Sen. Obama's life? No, I felt confident the Senators own website could facilitate that end.
As far as your inane, altruistic foreboding with respect to the fate of our dear old GOP, and it being relinquished at the hands of some fanatical liberal muckraker's who would characterize us with such repugnant epithets such as you've eluded, well in that case Sir it is they who should re-examine their own dispositions.
"A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing." ~ Oscar Wilde
Hussein *is* his middle name. That's not a fair comparison at all.
There's a million miles apart between saying his full name to tweak the left, as Red Wing clearly was meaning here, and saying his middle name to agitate bigots.
The fact that his middle name will agitate a few bigots doesn't reflect poorly on those tweaking the left, I maintain.
It's all in the context. And the context of the title here was clearly anti-PC, not anti-Muslim.
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Absolutely 100% accurate.
However they still look fairly similar... despite being completely different.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
Attacking a guy with a nickname like Juan sends a pretty ugly message to Latinos. Attacking a guy because his middle name is Hussein sends the same message to Muslims and Arabs.
It doesn't matter if it is the guy's actual name or not. That doesn't make it any more acceptable.
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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
Your entry talks about the name issue at length and you use the middle name several times, including in the title. I don't think much of many of your other reasons given to oppose the guy. I guess I like to focus more on substantive issues, not what he may or may not have done when he was 5 or 20 years old, or whether he smokes. There are plenty of real reasons to oppose Obama.
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This was intended to address a larger issue...It seems that was the topic of the day...His name I mean...So yes that got me thinking...However the entry is about so much more than that...and I did include many other fundamental reasons we should oppose Obama...I'm sorry if I was unable to articulate it well enough and you missed that...?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
It is about more than just the name.
He has some great links to articles that delve into who and what BHO is all about. And yep, plenty there to scare the pants off on anyone serious about defending our country and way of life.
Funny, that.
If only there were some way that this could have been avoided and we could have talked about the substantive issues!
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire
...I should of waited a couple days till the culpability factor subsided, and we could have addressed the subject matter in the diary, and not jump on our keyboards to type benighted conclusions.
"A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing." ~ Oscar Wilde
testy no matter when you posted it.
I still stand by my recommend. It may not be pretty, but this stuff had to be said.
...unfortunately, by lack of propriety it's evident an appreciable number of our fellow RedStaters found such a comprehensive condition to be a diminutive, impertinent measure prior to publishing some synoptic comment?
"A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing." ~ Oscar Wilde
Zuiko--Just how is he supposed to write an entry about what happened because of Obama's middle name without mentioning the name?
Yes, he did muddy the water by mentioning those other points, which made it look like the object was to attack Obama. Since he did, I'll add that the activities Obama has admitted would eliminate him from consideration for any kind of employment with the FBI, for instance. Yet, if elected, he'll be in charge of the FBI.
I'm not completely naive, so I realize this will make no difference to Obama's true believers. It also won't make any difference to all the people who never hear of it, so I'm all in favor of getting the information out and letting the chips fall where they may, especially if they can convince a few Democrats that Obama is not the second coming. It does have to be done with care. But throwing a blanket over something true, however sleazy and irrelevant, will not help.
The "Third Worst Person in the World" and aiming higher.
...but you champion the very ideological malady I assert is so inauspicious of late in the GOP, to its perdition.
"A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing." ~ Oscar Wilde
so why even take the chance of wading into the waters of religio-ethnic bigotry? The GOP has enough of an uphill climb as it is.
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Context is not subjective.
The same argument was used to call welfare reform racist. Was Reagan a bigot when he railed against welfare run amok?
I don't think so.
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...that may offend a liberal?
"A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing." ~ Oscar Wilde
Maybe we should tiptoe around the ones that wouldn't offend Don Black.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire
Consider it this way...
Pointedly including the Hussein in reference to Obama says something very significant about the person saying it and very little (new) about the senator himself.
But it is indeed a free country and of course you're free to repeat Barack Hussein Obama as often as you please. While you're at it, you might similarly impress swing voters by noting that Obama's epidermis is showing, as you make farting sounds with your hand stuck in your armpit.
...so why harp away on it? Did you even really read it? While pulling your cheeks apart with your index fingers and sticking your tongue out... ;-)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
If you don't want them to harp on it don't put it there. That is precisely why using the middle name would be a bad tactic - it immediately becomes the focus above any substance.
It doesn't matter whether it is PC, free speech or whatever, it is poor method of communication that guarantees you lose control of the message. And if that is not reason enough for you then you can go run as many losing campaigns as you like for some other party.
...you are apparently correct? The interesting thing is that none of the event goers at the function in question seems to have said word 1, and when asked in a off handed manner by one of the MSM about it McCain just misfired, he spoke before he knew what was even said, and by doing so brought this whole thing to fruition. And so now otherwise sane people begin squirming around with an apocryphal feeling in the pit of their stomach? Sad.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
I don't understand the whole hand-over-heart thing. As far as I know, you only do it during the pledge. The only time I ever do that during the National Anthem is if I have a hat. As a season ticket holder at U of Michigan for 3 years, I haven't seen a single person put their hand over their heart without a hat. Is this a regional thing or are people just making up reasons to claim he's unpatriotic?
...and we put our hands over our hearts, with or without hat.
Now that being said, please understand I wasn't saying that this or that is in anyway unpatriotic, or anything else for that matter. What I wanted to do was lay it all out there and see what it looks like as a whole? Without worrying about who thought what about it.
I went out of my way to link it all to legitimate, credible sources.
I also dispelled the notion that he was schooled in a madrassa, amongst other things by the way, so I wasn't trying to make him look bad, just take an objective look at what his life history REALLY is.
If you read it and think badly of the information, then you're not arguing with me, you're actually attacking Sen. Obama himself, cause those are simply facts I listed.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
Then you told me you went to the Devil's school. Well not the Devil's school, I'm pretty sure Satan actually teaches in a little town called Norman, but USC is right behind them for me. The eyes of Texas are upon you....Hook Em!
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McCain/Rudy 08-kill the terrorists and punch the hippies.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Von Goethe
You're both pathetic.
But Satan does have a special place in his heart for Norman. That's where he spends fall and winter every year.
The "Third Worst Person in the World" and aiming higher.
Without our losses to the Satanic Sooners (named after the state practice of cheating that started with the opening of its land to settlement), we "coulda been more than a contenda" this year. It doesn't happen often for us.
The "Third Worst Person in the World" and aiming higher.
I can't wait for football season to start this year....
"Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender. They will."-John McCain
McCain/Rudy 08-kill the terrorists and punch the hippies.
I cannot believe McCain bit on that and apologized....I thought we could win in November but with these pathetic apologies at this stage of the game we will not lay a hand on him.
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