Talk radio’s latest tantrum.
By Sandra Lea Wise Posted in 2008 — Comments (93) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
The evidence speaks for itself. Rush, Laura, Hannity “et all” have been neutered. The endless talk about Reagan, the non-stop referrals to the party of Reagan, the tantrums over Bush’s nomination of Miers and so on, have proven to be irrelevant. The silent majority is now speaking.
Listening to these sore losers today, makes one realize that it was all about them all the time. They don’t care about the Republican Party, unless they can run it. They thought for a while that they did run it. Rush even suggested that he might not support the Party’s nominee! The whispering has started: “It took Carter to get Reagan.”
The “loud voices” have tried to destroy Bush because he isn’t Reagan. They have successfully driven his approval ratings down. Now they are attacking McCain, the current front runner. They simply can’t face it. The candidates that are left standing are not far-right, they are moderate.
I think that Reagan would be extremely disappointed that this has become his legacy. The President who brought so many into the Republican Party is now used by some to destroy it.
Sandra Lea Wise
My take is this: we don't need to tear down anyone on our side. We can build up the cnadidate we are for without denegrading anyone on our side.
With Slick and his bride running, there's enough to go after without going after our own!
And with any luck, they will grind him up and spit him out in pieces so small he'll never appear on the national scene again.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
As long as they keep pounding the moderates like McCain, they're still relevant as far as I am concerned.
nor is he a "conservative". He's a "McCainiac". His positions on issues have nothing to do with any kind of consistency or fundamental belief, outside of the idea that John McCain knows best.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
Founder and contributor to The Minority Report and Editor for The Hinzsight Report
I'm not a McCain supporter, but if the primary voters chose him and he is the Party nominee, then what?
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
and vote for him. Even though I consider him to be the second most unqualified Republican candidate I've ever seen. (Huckadope is #1 going away)
Hopefully he'll be better than Hillary or Mr. O. I don't hold out lots of hope for that, but as an act of despiration it's all I've got to rationalize with.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
What's the use of our Republican party if we have to agree with liberals to win. Using this strategy, there won't be a bit of difference between the parties before long. Some strategy for success. To maintain the party's standing we need to constantly reform it back towards the rugged individualism of originalist constitutionality, not away from it.
America stands for bold colors!
Tim Schieferecke
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
We have just been busy alienating each other. Now we are getting someone who will likely lose the general
You fell this is something to crow about ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
this party is in disarray. The problem for Rush, and he knows this, is he MUST stop McCain, or the failure to do so will hurt him. What is that line about coup d'etats? something like when you do it, you must succeed or it is your head that will roll.
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Molon Labe!
I'm distressed. We should not be alienating each other. Remember Reagan's 13th commandment?
My criticism of Rush, etc., is that they have been attacking our own non stop. Now the Party is weakened, we lost in '06 and we might lose the general!
And, what has gone wrong? When we fight each other, it seems that we lose conservatives...!
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
...unless someone snuck a couple in on me...
It's not talk radio's fault, conservatives are tiring of having to fall in line behind mediocre candidates because the party's hell bent on winning at all costs and some conservatives are pointing out that fact.
What good is a Party if they continually move away from your principles?
Founder and contributor to The Minority Report and Editor for The Hinzsight Report
My question is this. If Talk Radio is so influential, then why have the conservative candidates all dropped out? There is no Party candidate this time! Conservatives themselves can't decide what they want.
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
he just didn't seem to want the job and couldn't excite voters. Not talk radio's fault.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
There is one guy who has gotten the conservative vote in every primary state, and he also happens to be leading in the first state where the Democrats can't come and vote for the Democrat on the ballot, John McCain. I'll give you a hint-he's in my tag. Also, I'd note that I haven't heard any Romney bashing by Rush either.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
and see Romney's potential. To me he is the most well rounded candidate. Democrats admit he is the one they fear the most in the general.
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
I'm the neo-con remember :-) I don't see a problem with infusing 20 million to the economy for research and energy independent techonology. I would note that every time the federal government has invested big money and big research, it has accomplished results. I would argue this in the space age, our health care industry, and our military. Also Romney has made his bed with conservatives, whereas McCain is going to ride independents and Democrats to the elections. Who do you trust to be more faithful to conservatives-the guy who is ambitious enough to realize that conservatives elected him and he must stay faithful to them to get re elected, or the guy that won by getting the independent vote? To quote Ann COulter, we want someone who has gotten 51 percent of the vote, not 90. Did you read Right Side Redux's diary today about Fred's judges all going to Mitt with the names-conservatives are lining up with Mitt, and he's welcoming us all with open arms. Johnny Mac is making his bed with Lieberman, Ted Kennedy and the rest of his ilk.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
Exhibit A: Human Genome Project. The government group started more than a year early, had more people, and still lost to the private sector group.
Exhibit B: NASA. What is NASAs success in driving down the costs of putting satellites into orbit? Oh, there isn't any.
Exhibit C: Health care research. Despite all of the non-profit government funded research, who came up with the best AIDs coctail? Private industry.
Putting money into energy research is better than "raising hope" or paying for AmeriCorp "volunteers" but it is not generally speaking, ecnomically efficient.
Far be it from me to call your reply dishonest, BlackRepub, but after all, McCain's endorsements are no secret. Let's look at them, hmm?
Nope. No Kennedy. Lieberman is there. But I see endorsers like Tom Coburn, Sam Brownback, Norman Schwarzkopf, John Thune, John Kyl, Tom Ridge, Henry Kissinger, Jack Kemp ...
Is that the "ilk" you are so uncomfortable with?
Former Fredhead, Current McCainiac
absentee
Although I must say-there's one key endorsement that McCain is missing-Fred. Fred knows that his endorsement locks up the nomination for McCain, and he's chosen to wait until the convention. I'm not a mind reader, but Fred has to know that without an endorsement, his people are going to go to Mitt and not McCain, which they have been doing in droves. Fred's non-endorsement of McCain is a silent endorsement for Mitt in a way that does not make him look like he is stabbing his friend Johnny Mac in the back.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
So you try and pull a "look the good endorsements are for Mitt" and then when presented with a refutation you just dissemble.
Well you've sewn up my vote!
Former Fredhead, Current McCainiac
absentee
My point was that if McCain was the great true conservative he is supposed to be, than his friend Fred, who endorsed him in 2000 would have endorsed him again. Look Brownback and Coburn are part of the Senators club, and in Brownback's case, I think he was being pragmatic. He went in for McCain when McCain is looking like the only one that could win. Kyl agrees with McCain on immigration so no surpise there. I'll see your Coburn and raise you Demint. You certainly have't refuted that time and time again McCain has worked with liberal Democrats to get his agenda driven through-NCLB, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman (global warming), and McCain's torture amendment. Now show me where Romney has openly stabbed Republicans in the back in Massachussetts, where he governed center-right. McCain is to the left of his own deep red state.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
The column would be too narrow if I did reply to this on yours.
"Did you read Right Side Redux's diary today about Fred's judges all going to Mitt with the names-conservatives are lining up with Mitt, and he's welcoming us all with open arms. Johnny Mac is making his bed with Lieberman, Ted Kennedy and the rest of his ilk."
That's what you said. So that comment means endorsements are good.
I showed you exactly who he is making his bed with. You dismiss them and say Kennedy and Lieberman again. So in that comment, endorsements are nothing.
Third time's not the charm either. Now endorsements are somewhat good, but you'll compare one or two of them in the hope of resurrecting your first disproven point: Mitt's endorsements are better.
Trying to hold two ideas in your mind at the same. Mitt's endorsements matter to Mitt, but McCain's don't mean a thing about McCain.
Sorry, not buying it.
Former Fredhead, Current McCainiac
absentee
We're both talking at a wall at this point. We both trust our own guys and that's fair-neither of us seem to be on the fence, so we're both running into a brick wall. I guess we'll see after the smoke clears.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
Here in Florida, McCain is not running as McCain, he is pandering as much as he can to the Right wing. And when the local talk show host interviewed him, he gave evasive answers to immigration questions and tried to make it seem like he is now for cracking down on illegal immigration.
Since I either hear his commercials or his interview on talk radio, I can only give you the basic idea.
On Talk radio, he is down playing amnesty, but doesn't totally reject it. He says some can stay for Humanitarian reasons. But doesn't explain what that is.
He is also all over the radio talking about economic policy which sounds a lot like Romney's and Rudy's plan.
And Rudy's sounded like Fred's. That's what we're calling pandering?
Former Fredhead, Current McCainiac
absentee
Romney's always talked about strengthening the economy to fend off China and the rising Asian giants and its clear from listening that its something he cares about a lot.
Sandra, judging by your comment here, I think we have had a miscommunication. I am for Mitt and will caucus for him here in Kansas. I thought you were supporting Senator McCain, but it appears I was wrong. Mitt08
Tim Schieferecke
Romney came in third fourth for the Conservative vote in South Carolina it broke down as follows: Huckabee - 35, McCain - 26, Thompson 19%, and Romney at 16%. So McCain and Huckabee combined to get 61% of the Conservative vote. They break it down even further into very conservative and somewhat Conservative. Somewhat Consevative is as follows: McCain 32%, Huckabee 30%, Romney 17%, Thompson 15%. Very Conservative: Huckabee 41%, Thompson 22%, McCain, 19%, and Romney 16%. So no, Romney did not win the Conservative vote in the south, instead he comes in 4th place. Huckabee and McCain combined to get allmost 2/3 of the Conservative vote.
In Iowa, Michigan, New Hamphsire, Nevada and currently in Florida, Romney is hands down winning conservatives.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
I guess McCain did just fine in WY and NV then. Besides you said that Romney won the Conservative vote in every primary not every primary that he played in ( which btw he played quite hard in SC before he pulled out, indicating that he pulled out because he was set to lose) so why don't you just admit you were wrong.
But honestly, tear up. Romney pulled out of SC, something that is accurate and hasn't affected his lead in Florida. At least Romney didn't blame Fred Thompson for the reason he lost. Romney saw the writing on the wall-saw that there were threee people competeing for the conservative vote, and left to win the state with more delegates that would allow him to give a victory speech. Judging by the fact Romney is leading in Florida and you boy is barely scratchign 15 percent, I'd be a bit less crtiical of the Romney campaign. I'm glad you took the time out to squibble about Romney-its one of the Huckabots finer qualities in nitpicking someone else because you all have nothing to show for yourselves. How's that Iowa win working out for you by the way?
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
Huckabee's like my fourth choice or possiblly my fifth choice
.He doesn't support school choice, he may be corrupt and his I worry about his commitment to setaration of church and state. So its a little funny that you're assuming I'm a Huckabee fan. What I'm a fan of is the truth. And the truth is Romney didn't win the conservative vote in every primary like you said he did. I'm not criticizing Romney at all for crying out loud! What he did was good strategy. Who I'm criticizing is you for spreading around the lie that Romney won the conservative vote in every primary he didn't. But maybe RomBots don't care about the truth. Romney btw is my second choice, so you should stop with you little game of assuming what candidates people support
The fact that Romney carried every single conservative vote except the one he pulled out in makes me deliberately distorting the truth. I have no desire to get into a debate on whether Romney winning the conservative vote in every state except South Carolina is sufficient enough for you. If you don't liek him-fine ddon't vote for him!To imply that I am somehow a liar is absurd. I fact check as well as anyone else on this site, toherwise I wouldn't have made it 2 and a half years. The whole point is your are nitpicking about something that is rediculous, and with that I am done with you sir.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
I corrected you on a fact and you get all defensive. What's your problem that you can't stand to be corrected. How is it nitpicking when you said Romney won the conservative vote of every state to point out that that is untrue. I never called you a liar, but you stated a fact that wasn't true and I corrected it. Get some thicker skin man.
1) Ridiculously broken primary process (open primaries)
2) Front loaded primary (stupid)
3) American Idol Campaign cycle (sound bite over substance)
4) Everyday Republicans severely mislead and under informed by MSM and some new media outlets
5) Talk Radio is more informative than influential in the primary process
Founder and contributor to The Minority Report and Editor for The Hinzsight Report
If the base had made the same effort to castigate Bush and the Congressional "leadership" on spending and ethics we'd still have control of Congress.
If we play nice-nice and nominate a doddering old fool or some trailer trash as our standard bearer, we're doing nothing more than going back to 40 years in the wilderness. If we can't fight amongst ourselves for the core of the party how in the world will we withstand the Clinton machine in November? Short answer... we won't.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
Its another when it gets to the point we are throwing bombs.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
or we whine and moan when something like McCain-Kennedy comes a long.
There is a balance. Talk radio does a good job of at least trying to counter the MSM.
The attacks on the Harriet Miers nomination proved talk radio was irrelevant? That's certainly an interesting conclusion, given that Miers got cut loose and we were given a much better nominee.
As far as suggesting they might not be able to support a candidate in the general goes, it is no sin. There are Republicans I wouldn't vote for in the general. I think the same goes for everybody. The only difference is where they draw that line and what candidates are on the other side of it.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
"The evidence speaks for itself. Rush, Laura, Hannity “et all” have been neutered. The endless talk about Reagan, the non-stop referrals to the party of Reagan, the tantrums over Bush’s nomination of Miers and so on, have proven to be irrelevant. The silent majority is now speaking."
The silent majority got its voice with issues like Miers, Dubai Ports World, and McCain-Kennedy. You can consider the moderates in the party to be the silent majority, however, most still consider them the unwashed masses. They do NOT follow politics, they are squishy on issues, get their news from a news paper/CNN and generally "don't get it" when considering a candidate. The fact you consider them neutered reflects in the fact that you also consider McCain to be the front runner.
"I think that Reagan would be extremely disappointed that this has become his legacy. The President who brought so many into the Republican Party is now used by some to destroy it."
Reagan did not build the party by compromising his beliefs. He did so by doing just the opposite. Have you considered that maybe its not the "loud voices" that are doing this to our party? Have you considered that it might be the party that has shifted away from issues?
flexible particularly on pragmatic (economic) issues. His strongest area of "belief" was on International issues. In specific his view of the world as "evil vs. good" type of paradigm. In fact he was first opposed by the economic conservative types as a liberal Republican from California.
Reagan was just like Huckabee on economic issues. I know I remember him railing against the rich and talking about sticking it to those overpaid fat cat CEOs just to get elected.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Don't you believe it. Rush is going to have a bigger impact than you think. McCain still hasn't won anything without indendents and democrats, and he isn't going to win Florida, you can take that to the bank.
Rush has suggested he might not support the Republican candidate. The bottom line is, Rudy and Romney are not perfect conservatives either.
For myself, I prefer Romney or Rudy over McCain, so I hope you are right.
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
If you listen to Rush religiously, you'd know that he's engaging our grey matter to question our own thoughts and refine them. He'll let us stew on the uncertainty and make our candidates sweat bullets to purify them. He WILL endorse the eventual candidate if it's not Senator McCain. You'd know that if you listened everyday, year after year, not missing one syllable uttered.
A Knight In The Service Of Good King Rush.
Tim Schieferecke
You'd better wish you were wrong about them being "neutered", what would we have done without Rush, Sean, Glenn, et. al. when it came to shamnesty? If you can tell me they made NO difference in that, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona I'd like to sell you. Conservative talk radio is the double fence surrounding OUR shining city on a hill, and I think most people realize that.
A Knight in the service of Good King Rush.
Tim Schieferecke
Clinton or Obama amnesty for all! What good is stopping that bill if it leads to a Democrat win?
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
I look at it this way. Talk radio started attacking Bush with the Miers' nomination. They got their way, then got their way again by stopping the immigration bill. However, they weakened Bush and the Republican Party in the process. If the result is a Hillary and/or Obama win, what have they gained?
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
I'm sure you will admit that Alito is heads and shoulders above Miers, and that the illegal immigration was horrendous, and it would ahve been a losing issue for us this year, had we gone for it. Imagine not having illegal immigration as an issue to smack the Democrats around with this election cycle. We are not sheep following the Party-talk radio has done a good job smacking around the party and waking up the base when we need to be. An R after your name doesn't always make you my ally-see McCain, John.
If you ever find that you only have an hour to live,spend it with a liberal and it will seem like a year."-Rush Limbaugh
As such, he was fair game. Talk radio and its ability to spread the word of what's going on is extremely healthy for everyone, especially conservative Republicanism. Your premise is not all that different from an abused women that doesn't report her problems because her husband by all accounts is an upstanding community businessman. Truth when found must be expressed.
America stands for bold colors!
Tim Schieferecke
NCLB was pretty early on and it is a disgrace. The good stuff got stripped out and we ended up with the Teddy Kennedy education bill that more than doubled the size of the Dept of Education overnight. Then of course there was Medicare Part D. I think we could have used some more outrage earlier on, if anything.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
with specific quotes etc. Still, you make a good point. The "talking" class is similar to the "blogging" class. Everyone likes to think that they have influence in the process, ultimately that's why they do it, not just for the money but for the power. Nothing wrong with that, I'm not trying to make anyone out as an egomaniac but because that is a large part of the motivation they get nasty when they feel like people aren't going along. The less people go along the more strident they get.
Still, the people you mention do continue to have influence. I disagree with some of them about several things but I hold much in common with them as well. I view them more as sources of information, rather than leaders. The paradox is that they view themselves more as leaders rather than providers of information. Thus the conundrum and thus the tension in their voices.
misinterpretation of talk radio's occasional opposition to Bush, its role in the conservative movement and relation to the GOP.
One, is your fierce loyalty to Bush. I share fierce loyalty to Bush
Two, and as a former democrat I think I can address this, is that you, as former democrat are assuming a similarity between the two parties that does not exist.
Conservatives and the GOP are driven primarily by principles and results of policies that proved successful with Reagan and the Newt GOP, not to mention the Founders.
The Democrat party is driven by identity politics and raw government power.
More later in a blog, but suffice to say for now, talk radio has not sought to and has not destroyed Bush, cares primarily about principles and policies that make America strong and are justified in most of their tantru...I mean free speech.
For what the Dem Party is all about, check out the race war Clintons are waging in SC.
I also noticed that you could not resist invoking Reagan as well, eh?
I don't blame you. He's worthy, as is his legacy and what he stood for.
see electoral landslides.
more later
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
I have no loyalty to Bush. The best I can say about him is that he is head and shoulders better than either Gore or Kerry.
Talk radio hasn't hurt Bush, any injuries he's suffered have been 100% self inflicted:
1. Miers.
2. Immigration.
3. Spending.
4. Not fighting for his judicial nominees in Committee.
5. New Tone.
GWB made his own bed. If talk radio has done anything, it's just pointed out it's a crappy bed.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
Somehow, disagreeing strongly with Bush on the conservative side is seen as party disloyalty apparently.
I am a loyal Republican and will support my Party's nominee. Then I will support my Party's president if we get lucky and can beat back the Clintons. I haven't forgotten the long 8 years of corruption and lying. It's inconceivable that they are back on the stage and have a real chance to win.
How has this happened, Rush, Laura, etc.???
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
I would start with immigration, education, and the drive by media. Yes, that is the real answer by the way.
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Molon Labe!
as Rush is called by the drive by media, turn on their own Party, then they and the other party can get away with saying, as they do everyday, that Bush has ruined the country and it will take the Clintons to put it back together.
Rush is doing a good job of pointing out that the Dems are in a race war. He needs to do more of that and stop attacking our candidates.
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
conversion, and I didn't convert to the GOP to sit idly by and watch the man that we Dems loved because he poked Repubs eyes for us, ie McCain. And I was converted to the GOP because of Reaganite/Rushite conservatism, not rhe elephant mascot. But I don't forget, like the elephant, and I remember Rush defending Bush the past 7 years and holding back vitriolic attacks on Bush. He loves and respect President Bush.
FWIW, I was for Miers.
more later
But the reason the Clintons have a chance is twofold: mosy any Dem would have a chance, whatever that means, after 8 years out, and due to Bush and the GOP not providing a clear conservative vision.
But Sandra, having a chance? That's all press talk. Overt libs lose, esp during war. McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis had a chance at this stage.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
true, but the country is more left now because of the three reasons I mentioned. Also, Hillary is too smart to be honest about her radicalism as the three you mentioned were.
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Molon Labe!
Hillary and Obama have the voting records and rhetoric to back it up. McGovern and Dukakis pretended to be tough.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
to the chicken rule! I thought they were frogs?
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
If I were Rush, I would feel like a failure, if after 17 years I couldn't convince the voters that conservatism is the way to go. Each election we lose more conservatives... The conservative candidates have dropped out and now only moderates are left. Talk radio has been trying for years to drive the party to the right, yet they are failing. The voters speak and now Rush decides he might pick up his marbles and not support the voter's choice.
Talk radio should do what it's meant to do. Inform and present the other side, not try to run the Party.
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
The Party I see is as far right as it's been since World War II. And Rush Limbaugh has been critical to that shift.
The Party is far right? Then what is everyone so upset about?
We should be united and winning!
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
I never said it's a far right party. I said it's further right than it used to be.
Consider that the Rockefeller Republicans tend to be Democrats these days, while the old southern conservatives are now turning into Republicans. That trade helped move our party right, too.
And considerably more regional.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
If the *press* doesn't say it that way, well, it's because they're all New Yorkers who look down on Southerners. So in their eyes Democrats are 'normal people' and Republicans are ' stupid hicks.'
I think that the increase in audience that Rush is bragging about, must be the Democrats who are loving this fight within our party.
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
unfortutunate effect on political discourse in America. It has oversimplified politial ideology, and the American electorate with its constant obsession with left Vs. right.
I've been listening to Medved and Prager lately. I've never hated talk radio, I just hate hearing the constant drone that no one is like Reagan and therefore we don't have any good candidates.
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"The perfect is the enemy of the good."
How funny...
There I was looking back over some older posts of mine, digging for info I had researched previously, ran across some of your stuff and thought to myself, hmmm it's been a while...
And here you are.... and all discombobulated to boot, but good to see you again!
Here's my 2 cents.
Gamecock, above, makes a great point I believe, or to be more succinct, love the man, not the policies, re Bush.
Unlike many, I don't think he ruined the party or any of that garbage and while I have a great deal of personal admiration for the man I do see some areas where I wish he had been a bit more forceful and less personable.
As far as talk radio goes, it's all about principals not personalities except in the cases where the two collide. Hence it's hard to talk about the "principals" of the Clinton's due to their personality disorders. Same goes for some of the Republicans running, like McCain and Huckabee. The principal and personality issue sort of get fuzzy due to some deep rooted inner flaw and that I believe is fair game or a discussion topic for a party that is based on principals rooted in "conservative" ideals.
Well done is better than well said. —Benjamin Franklin
John McCain has NEVER been beloved by the conservative wing of the party. Rush, Hannity, Malkin, Laura, etc are members of the conservative wing. It's no surprise that they voice their discontent. This will hardly "destroy" the party has you claim.
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