The NYT Says "Uncle," Comes Clean On BetrayUs Ad

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promoted from the diaries because I just got tired of people telling me that a "standby" ad could be expected to run on a very specific day.

[UPDATE] We're still taking the over/under until the self beclowned John Cole acknowledges this story. All entries must use the 52-year Mayan calendar.

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I wonder if this is the NYT's attempt to short-circuit a FEC proble?

N.Y. Times admits Petraeus ad sold to Moveon.org at 1/2 off
Officials at the New York Times have admitted a liberal activist group was permitted to pay half the rate it should have for a provocative ad condemning U.S. Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus.

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From the New York Daily News (Hat tip to Instapundit):

"We made a mistake," Catherine Mathis, vice president of corporate communications for The Times, told the newspaper's public editor.

Mathis said an advertising representative left the liberal group with the understanding that the ad would run that Monday even though they had been charged the standby rate.

The group should have paid $142,083 to ensure placement that day.

So, the NYT made an $80,000 billing mistake? I know we joke a lot about how the NYT is sliding slip-sliding as a business. But, if it's possible over there to make $80,000 mistakes in formulating and assessing advertising fees!, then perhaps they really DO have big problems as a business. (Or, maybe Pinch's finally has risen above the nastly worldly impulse to realize profit.)

That is...if this was really a mistake. (Emphasis below added).

Eli Pariser, the executive director of MoveOn, told The Times there was no discussion of a standby rate when a member of the group called the paper on Friday, requesting the Monday ad.

Well, golly! What a lucky coinky-dink for MoveOn.org! Christmas came early this year! They called the nation's most prominent news daily, asked for a front page ad to run 72 hours later, and...whaddya know...just happened to get a 50%+ discount.

The Paper of Record's defense: we are incompetent.

NYT shareholders, take note. FEC, don't be fooled.

treasonous MSM shall never be able to get away with their lies any longer....Hey NY Times the truth shall set you free.

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Nice. I use that phrase often when arguing seperation of church and state.

Especially given all the lefty apologists who contrived excuses and explanations for this. Did anyone else see Ellis Hennigan go up against the guy from freedoms watch on fox. They should have him back to explain his explanations.
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"Isn't democracy great" with a big smile on his face. Like democracy is about smearing an honorable general, perverted and disgusting but like most liberals on talk shows they think it's a triumph to get the last word in, no matter how pointless, dumb,or in this case, shameful.

Hennigan wouldn't back of an iota, change his tune maybe, but no backing off. And he would do it all with the same big smile, that's why they're nuts, nothing matters to them.

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That would explain why his argument was filled with snark.

"Isn't democracy great" with a big smile on his face.

And he would do it all with the same big smile

But, he is an able verbal combatant. I don't recall ever seeing him give in in an argument. If he's arguing on the losing side of an issue, he just changes the subject.

I also don't recall anything of note that Hennican has written. Even though I disagree with them, there are liberal journalists who have "gravitas," and whose work conseratives are well aware of. (E.g., Michael Kinsley, Ellen Goodman, and E.J. Dionne in print media, Kevin Drum and Matthew Yglesias online). Besides coming on Fox to be the liberal foil, what has Hennican done?

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By the ACU?

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I await John Cole's post on the subject.

Now where are the people who say the Times isn't liberal, what will the poor maniacs who live to send e-mails about BushLies think as they're strapped down for the night, and when do we start to hear about the right wing media and blogs stirring hate, always a reliable fall back in situations like this.

But what can you expect from a once overrated but at least mediocre newspaper that has become an all purpose pimp for defeat and heavy handed collectivism, that has sunken so low under an idiot publisher as to run interference for the Democrats in a ceaseless campaign to create respectability where none exists.

Eli Pariser appears to be quite a lame liar himself, "money, nah, we never discussed it". Jeezus, are the all the same, every last one of them?

"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville

The Times' circulation is about 1.5 mil. I wonder just how many of those subscribers are just other media organizations and institutions like libraries, schools, etc. Cut out all that fat and you are probably left with a circulation of real people about the same size as any other major daily paper.

They may have been "the newspaper of record" at one time, but thanks to the proliferation of cable TV and most especially the intenet, the NYT is just another "news" outlet and nothing more. Of course I use the term "news" loosely.

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The problem is, though, that the lefties on Cable and the Internet all read the NYT and then have their agenda influenced accordingly.

The NYT is basically their Rush Limbaugh.

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Reality: Thompson/Romney Dream: Santorum/Watts.

But what can you expect from a once overrated but at least mediocre newspaper that has become an all purpose pimp for defeat and heavy handed collectivism, that has sunken so low under an idiot publisher

While that's an admittedly polemical (but VERY satisfying to read) statement, there's a lot of truth in it.

Isn't ANYONE associated with the NYT upset over the shape it's in now? (Besides its stockholders, that is).

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Bias is annoying, but denying your bias is much, much more obnoxious. I only wish they had admitted the obvious intent, rather than just the deed.

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It wasn't a mistake - it was a calculated move. The mistake they made was thinking they wouldn't get caught.

Don't you know that George Soros is a poor man and doesn't have the money to afford a full-page ad in the Times at the regular rate?

He's practically broke, but trying to do the right thing.

printing classfied information in wartime (damn you for that GWB) but maybe the FEC can be persuaded to get them for campaign finance violations.

I want that "advertising representative" in jail!
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probably, and now the ny times is throwing him to the lions so the higher-ranked muckety-mucks can get away clean.

typical way to deal with a scandal.

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will be interesting. Something tells me the rep will be more scared of the Feds than Team Pinch.

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and stall until January 2009?

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A far-left group gets access to top elite media for half-price, in order to smear an active-duty four star general. The NYT says "oopsie, our bad."

And they're going to get away with it because no but us is going to say anything but "tsk."

I'm not holding my breath waiting for enforcement action by the FEC. How are they going to prove that it wasn't just a stupid mistake by the NYT's accounting department?

If you think this is bad, wait till Hillary starts running campaign ads.

"mistake" would be the absense of a head on a pike outside the front door of the Times.

I don't know how benevalent you are with your business, but if one of my employees cost me $80K and the prospect of legal hassels, Mrs908 would have his head or mine on display.
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...a normal business. The Sulzberger family owns a tiny fraction of the total equity, but a majority of the voting control (through a supervoting class of stock).

They've been laying off people like crazy so one more won't impress anyone. But they're not about to fire anyone important on the editorial side.

My point is that this was obviously no mistake on the NYT's part. But like any kind of ethically-challenged behavior on the part of lefties, they're going to get away with it scot-free. They'll get away with lying about it, and the next time anyone brings it up, they'll say "asked and answered" and "old news."

Ultimately though they are being destroyed by their own actions. They don't realize that the new media paradigm isn't just about the web. Its about the web and accountability.
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I haven't seen the figures, but I've gotta believe Redstate's readership has been expanding exponentially of late, if for no other reason than Laura Ingraham has been heard giving props to the site repeatedly the past few months. The old media, MSM, dinosaur media, whatever you want to call it is indeed going the way of the first set of dinosaurs.

What amazes me is..... so was AM radio until Rush came along. Newspapers don't HAVE to kill themselves off. But they seem determined to do so.

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You can't pull a stunt like this without people knowing about it, even down to the clerks and such in the accounting department. Somebody had to authorize that rate, somebody had to make up the invoice, accept the payment, etc. and that person would not have a vested interest in giving this customer a special deal. A little quality time with the FBI would have some people singing like canaries. Ending my reverie now; nothing will come of it.

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That part is actually fairly easy: use the necessary part of the law to obtain their ad sales records. If you find a consistent pattern of undercharging MoveOn, it wasn't a mistake. Doesn't matter whether or not they had conversations about how much the ad cost or when it would run. If they have conistently paid less than other groups running the same class of ad, you have an in-kind contribution. If you consistently sold ads in one class which ran as though they were in another class, you not only have in-kind donations, you also have fraud.

Still, it is the NYT vs the FEC we're talking about, so the NYT skates. Sort of. Because at least for the next couple of months, conservatives are going to be demanding "the MoveOn rate" for THEIR political ads. And that's sort of twisting the knife now that we have it in them. Now where did I put the salt...

Whoever takes the fall can always find someone to sue in five years, claiming it was all a White House conspiracy.

Looks like Jayson Blair was hired back to run the advertising department. Is that the excuse?

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he referred to his employer as "liberal", the politics that dare not speak it's name, no such thing you understand and the only thing the Times keeps classified.

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