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...and John McCain is as pure as the wind-driven snow. This is politics, folks. Negative ads, contrast ads, whatever you want to call them are part of the game. This isn't child's play.

BTW - Wasn't it Sen. McCain that told Cornyn to f*ck off during the immigration fight?

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/docs/editedNHTrackDay3and4Jan4...

Since when have conservatives ever had a home with McCain anyway? McCain has made no secret of his disdain for conservatives. He's actively going after Democrat and independent voters up in NH - he's campaigning big time on campaign finance reform and climate change...puke!

Not saying Romney is a conservative stalwart himself, but at least he aligns himself completely with conservatives in his candidacy.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

In 2000 in NH, self-described conservatives went 37-35 for McCain over Bush and registered Rs went 44-35 for McCain. The idea that McCain won by only winning Is is false. McCain won among both Rs and Is, moderates and conservatives in NH.

We'll see if he can do it again. But yes conservatives would have to return to McCain for him to repeat and some are coming back to support him again.

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1) ARG.
2) Conservatives coming home... to McCain? Now that's funny.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

1) Of the last six polls, McCain is leading in five.

2) Conservatism and McCain:
- he was right about Iraq since the very beggining - just like Burke was about the French Revolution.
- he was the biggest and most effective anti-pork crusader in the last two decades.
- he knows that taxes cut without spending caps is pure nosense. "Starve the beast" never worked and will never work. The priority, the hard job to be done, is to downsize the federal spending.
- he's pro-free trade (check CATO ratings)
- he believes in the sanctity of the human life.
- he's anti-gun control.
- he believes in state rights.
- he understands that some wars must be fought; and he knows the wise way of fighting them.
- he's skeptical about the state, rational planning and social engineering.
- he's aware of of unintended consequence.
- he aknowledges the importance of traditions.
- he favours stricter sentencing.
- he knows the dangers of judicial activism.

...and i could go on ad aeternum.

Several conservatives can disagree with McCain in some specific politics? Sure. But that's what conservatism is about. It's not supposed to be a schematic, didactic exposition, like socialism. As Burke puts it, discrimination in terms of circumstances trumps consistency in terms of principle and logic.

Oh, and by the way, he can actually win the general elections.

They seem to jive pretty closely with a list a buddy of mine across the border in Salem sent me on Tuesday.

Impressive. Crap, but impressive.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

...as a conservative, why I should support someone who championed the unconstitutional campaign finance reform bill, a man that believes in the bunk science of climate change and advocates carbon offset schemes, and finally, a man that angrily lobbied for the disastrous McCain-Kennedy immigration bill.

I'm not saying McCain doesn't have his good spots - Iraq being chief among them - but the aforementioned sins are too much for this conservative.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

You have to set your conservative beliefs aside because McCain is a war hero and it would be unpatriotic to put your heartfelt views on policy issues ahead of hero worship.

Just like I have to set my conservative beliefs aside because Romney was a CEO, has nice hair, and has memorized the fullest spectrum of conservative talking points since he started running. Most importantly, Hugh says I'm a bigot if I don't vote for him.

There is nothing lonelier than being a black Republican in Boston, Massachusetts

If McCain renounced McCain-Feingold, I would take him at his work. He continues to stand by it.

If McCain renounced the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill, I would trust him. He continues to defend it.

If McCain renounced his vote against the tax cuts, I would accept that too. He continues to stand by his vote.

I'm not saying that Romney is the second coming of Barry Goldwater by any means - but my views align far more closely with his campaign than they do McCain's.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

He has memorized the full spectrum of conservative talking points, but wait, that must have been a long time ago because lets see, he seems to have been living by them for an awfully long time. He raised a conservative family, respects the sanctity of marriage and fights for it and lives by it. He understands the free market and how it works, made a fortune gaging the market and starting up new businesses. Oh, and not to mention the job he did in balancing the Massachusetts's budget or in saving the Salt Lake City Olympics. As governor he fought for traditional marriage and came down on the side of life every time. He has consistently shown the leadership to tackle tough decisions and has a fix it and get it done record. He talks the talk but it also looks like he walks the walk. Now, all these things are there for all to behold, nothing new.

Excuse me? Since when did McCain ever become conservative?

This is the guy voting for giving social security to illegal aliens and for amnesty. And voting against tax cuts.

You like those "conservative" ideals?

"Don't ever be afraid to see what you see." ~Ronald Reagan

And further, this was John Kerry's first pick for a running mate in 2004. Yet now he's "conservative?"

"Don't ever be afraid to see what you see." ~Ronald Reagan

Cheyenne - take shots at McCain if you'd like, but stick to the truth. He does not support social security benefits for illegals. That's just not true, regardless of how many times your man Mitt says so. There is no evidence, no record whatsoever, of such support. Please stop relying on incorrect talking points from competing campaigns.

He does not support social security benefits for illegals. That's just not true, regardless of how many times your man Mitt says so.

No. First he makes them legals, then he gives them SS benefits. So really he doesn't want to give illegals SS benefits, he actually wants to give them citizenship, then benefits.

Make it a double.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Actually, it is true.

McCain absolutely did vote on giving Social Security benefits to illegal aliens.

Sen. McCain Joined Sens. Clinton And Obama In Voting To Give Retroactive Social Security Benefits To Illegal Immigrants Who Would Be Granted Amnesty. "Specter, R-Pa., motion to table (kill) the Ensign, R-Nev., amendment no. 3985 that would bar illegal immigrants currently in the country from claiming Social Security credits for work done in years before they are assigned a valid Social Security number." (S. 2611, CQ Vote #130: Motion Agreed To 50-49: R 11-44; D 38-5; I 1-0, 5/18/06, Clinton, McCain, And Obama Voted Yea)

Or at least he voted to kill an amendment that would have prevented it.

Sen. McCain: "It would be wrong to deny hardworking men and women credit for all the dollars they've paid into Social Security from their often meager wages."

Rush Limbaugh: "[Sen. McCain] was one of the senators that voted to go ahead and allow Social Security benefits to be paid to people who had used identity fraud to get their Social Security number. ... Senator McCain, none of the others that support this will recognize or acknowledge any of the negative aspects of this, of the stolen Social Security numbers. ... Imagine that his Social Security number is swiped and that his identity is stolen. I'll guarantee you he would have an entirely different view of this."

Quoted from 5/22/06

"Don't ever be afraid to see what you see." ~Ronald Reagan

Knock it off. Dayton is no Fredhead. Us Fredheads are actually starting to take Romney as our second choice, so don't look at us. Overall, we are starting to lean to Romney more than the other candidates because at least Romney might be able to beat Huckabee. McCain and Giuliani would get slaughtered by Huck in the south. Your candidate has a chance to carry the conservative mantle if he can win New Hampshire. If he loses, then he's lost the two states that he's staked his whole campaign on and spent millions of dollars.

If you guys can win New Hampshire, then you'll have momentum and a lot of Fredheads will likely trend your way. If you lose, then Romney won't be able to beat back McCain and Huckabee in the south.

So here's the deal, beat McCain in New Hampshire, and you might win some of us over.

McCain can't beat Huckabee because Johnny has no advantage over Huckabee on immigration.

It's hilariously absurd that people think McCain, although I actually like him, can take on Huckabee. He's playing all buddy buddy now, but come the time he crosses the Mason Dixon line, he's toast.

Fred or Romney can beat Huckabee cause they don't have the illegal immigration skeletons that Huck has. McCain does. Rudy has no chance if Huck wins South Carolina.

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There has been, as of this morning, precisely one vote on the matter - and Romney took 2nd.

So you just might want to give the whole "The people have spoken..." idiocy a rest for a while - lest you demonstrate the other old saying about "better to let one think you a fool..."

Then again, perhaps we're already well past that stage with you.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

He targeted the party base and actually won that vote. So say what you want but he is on track and on target going into NH. It will be a battle for 1st if McCain rallies the independents but it is safe to assume that again Mitt will rally the base. Do that consistently and he will be our nominee.

We're just plain-old missing the fact that the Mormon ex-1-term-Governor of the bluest state in the union went into one of the most socially conservative evangelical electorates in history and took (gasp!) second - pretty handily beating, among others, a guy who has been in the headlines and effectively running for President lo these last 8-years (that would be your guy, by the way).

Gosh, we RomneyBots sure is stooooooopid. Yesiree!

And again, when was it that we Republicans started being concerned about people spending their own money? And are you telling me that if McPain had the resourses - or could raise the resources - that he wouldn't be dumping cash by the bucket right now? How 'bout a little so-called "straight-talk" on the matter, eh?

Frankly, I'd like to think that McCain jamming a shiv in our necks regularly over the last 7-years has hurt us more than anything said in the last month of a campaign - but maybe I'm just stooooooopid that way, eh?

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

To flip, one must have a position and change. To flip flop, one must have a position, change, and then return to the original position.

This applied to Senator Kerry because he would do this regularly. In fact, several times he tried to take both positions simultaneously. His beliefs were "nuanced".

Can you point out one instance where Governor Romney has changed his position and then returned to his original position? If not, you are misusing the term. And our opinion of your bot-like intellect diminishes with each use. You were able to squeeze it into that short post three times. Nice.