David Obey Goes Dick Cheney on a Moonbat
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Watch David Obey's encounter with a member of the moonbat Occupation Project on the subject of military funding.
Listen as he lies through his teeth about funding for the war and finally tells her, "It's time these idiot liberals understand that" and "If that isn't good enough for you you're smoking something illegal"
[UPDATE] Finally, with :38 remaining in the clip David Obey tells the moonbats to "go f*** with somebody else." As Rush Limbaugh said today, "you created these kooks, you deal with them."
[AND ANOTHER UPDATE] Notice how the "Marine mother" Tina Richard's story changes in just a couple of sentences.
TR: Hi, I'm Tina Richards. I had left a poem that my son had written [with one of your staffers] I was wondering if he ever got it to you? He's a United States Marine, he's done two tours in Iraq... he's going to be deployed for a third tour.
DO: I honestly [yadda yadda]
TR: OK, because my son is suffering from PTSD, he's had several suicide attempts...
DO: [yadda yadda]
TR: ... yadda yadda But he was able to do four years in the Marines, two deployments to Iraq, honorable discharge, presidential unit citation, yadda yadda
My gosh, this popcorn is tasty.
Read on
the script
Rep. David Obey (DO): Chair of Appropriations Cmte, US House of Representatives
Tina Richards (TR): Mother of Iraq war Marine, soon to be deployed for a third time
Peter Perry (PP), citizen activist, Derwood, MD.
TR: Hi, I'm Tina Richards. I had left a poem that my son had written [with one of your staffers] I was wondering if he ever got it to you? He's a United States Marine, he's done two tours in Iraq... he's going to be deployed for a third tour.
DO: I honestly don't know, I'm so buried in appropriations bills, I only get back over here for about 10 minutes a day. I've seen very little in my office...
TR: OK, because my son is suffering from PTSD, he's had several suicide attempts...
DO: I'm sorry to hear that...
TR: ... he tried to get help through the VA, and it took us six months to get his first appointment with the VA, in ten minutes they told him, "It sounds like you've got childhood issues." But he was able to do four years in the Marines, two deployments to Iraq, honorable discharge, presidential unit citation, and he was just fine for that, and now that he needs help from the VA, he's been told that he's got childhood issues.
DO: ... we're holding hearings today and Wednesday ...they're continually screwing those guys... the Washington Post is full of it...
TR: Well I've been talking about this for over a year now, and nobody seems to be paying much attention
DO: Well, I guarantee what's happening at Walter Reed...[indephirable] ...whole damn thing...
TR: Well what about the, umm, are you going to be voting against the supplemental?
DO: Absolutely not, I'm the sponsor of it for heaven sakes.
TR: For the ...uhh.. to continue the war?
DO: It doesn't. The President wants to continue the war. We're trying to use the supplemental to end the war, but you can't end the war by going against the supplemental. It's time these idiot liberals understand that. There's a big difference between funding the troops and ending the war. I'm not gonna deny body armor. I'm not gonna deny funding for veterans hospitals, defense hospitals, so you can help people with medical problems, that's what you're gonna do if you're going against that bill.
TR: There should be enough money already in the regular defense bills...
DO: (interrupting) Well there isn't.
TR: ... without continuing the funding for the war.
DO: There isn't. There isn't. That's not the way it works. The money in the defense bill, it pays for a standing army, but it doesn't pay for these recurring costs. We're gonna add over a billion dollars more to what the President was asking for in that bill, so we can deal with exactly the type of problems you're talking about. How the hell do you get money to the hospitals if you don't provide the funding?
TR: Are you going to be in support of....
DO: I hate the war. I voted against it to start with. I was the first guy in Congress to call for Rumsfeld's resignation, but we don't have the votes to defund the war we shouldn't because that also means defunding everything in that bill to help the guys who are the victims of war.
TR: Well there's an amendment to the supplemental that's being proposed to fully fund the withdrawal of the troops
DO: That makes no sense. It doesn't work that way. The language we have in the resolution ends the authority for the war, it makes it illegal to proceed with the war. You don't have to defund something if the war doesn't exist.
TR: Oh, I didn't know that was in the supplemental (DO talking over her)
DO: That's the problem, that's the problem. (emphatic right arm gesturing) The liberal groups are jumping around without knowing what the hell is in the bill! You don't have to cut off the funding for an activity that no longer is legal!
TR: Oh, and then approach it from that way....
DO: we're shutting it off
PP: (who had been standing back, listening, now approaches TR and DO).. What about the Church amendment that helped end the Vietnam war back in '72, '73?
DO: (Emphatically, voice raised) It took us 31 different efforts to get there, I was here for that.
PP: ok. (started to say something... PP and DO start talking over each other)
DO: I know what the hell I'm talking about.
PP: Did that end the ground war in Vietnam?
DO: No it didn't. The political pressure on the administration ended the war.
The amendment that finally ended the funding was the [undecipherable] amendment, I was the sponsor of that amendment...
PP: But if you pass the resolution, isn't he still the Commander in Chief? Then...
DO: (voice raised, leaning in towards PP) We don't have the votes to pass it!
We couldn't even get the votes to pass a nonbinding resolution one week ago!
How the hell do you think we're gonna get the votes to cut off the war?
PP: By stopping the funding.
DO: How, if you don't have the votes? It takes two hundred ....
PP: With a filibuster his supplemental request.
DO: There is no filibuster in the House.
PP: In the Senate they could do it and all they need is 41votes.
DO: I'm sorry.... No I'm not gonna vote for it ..... I'm the sponsor of the bill that's gonna be on the floor, and that bill ends the war..... if that isn't good enough for you, then you're smoking something that ain't legal!
PP: No I'm not, sir, no I'm not.
DO: You got your facts screwed up.
TR: (started to say something)
PP: It's non-binding]. How would it affect what he's doing on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
DO: We don't have the votes! (he then opens right side of suit jacket) Do you see a magic wand in my pocket?
PP: No.
DO: How the hell are we gonna got the votes for it? We ain't got the votes! We do have the votes if you guys quit screwin' it up. We do have the votes to end the legal authority to end the war, that's the same as defunding it. (at this point a female staffer approaches Rep. Obey and taps him on the arm)..
PP: Tell us how we can help.....
DO: I'm not going to debate it, you've got your facts wrong...
(DO then turns and walks away with his staffer to enter his office.)
TR: The last question is 'how can we help' so we can talk together?
Staffer: (escorting DO away from the scene)
DO: Good bye! Goodbye!.
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So libs, how's that Congressional Resolution to end The War™ coming along?
there's two many ppl who like blood, killing, invasion in the congress.
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coulter, hannity, limbaugh, bush, war, death, iraq, bin laden, afghanisthan, pakistan, iran, saudi arabia
Too many people who are gutless surrender monkeys.
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reid, punk, clinton, ignore terrorist threat, 9/11, cigar, perjury, byrd, KKK, kerry, band-aid, purple heart, democrat, surrender, surrender, surrender, surrender, surrender
I'll breath a little easier the next time I say liberals have the brains of cud chewing cows. You did notice the open minds of this woman and the guy who jumped in, the alertness, the brains absorbing information in mere nanoseconds and the willingness to question their beliefs.
These are some of the people who gave the democrats a mandate.
Now I have to find a substitute for the overused word "idiot". It won't be easy.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
How about imbecile, dummy, cretin, moron, half-wit, 'tard (as in 'Saint Louis Tardinals'), dimwit, nitwit, doofus, twit, simpleton, inanimate, brainless, ungifted, credulous, mouth-breather, lame-brain, dain-bramaged, subnormal or airhead?
Many of these are words are ones we mustn't use at CPAC, nor when giving an endorsement speech. In circumstances such as those we must use the euphemism 'Democrat'.
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How about imbecile, dummy, cretin, moron, half-wit, 'tard (as in 'Saint Louis Tardinals'), dimwit, nitwit, doofus, twit, simpleton, inanimate, brainless, ungifted, credulous, mouth-breather, lame-brain, dain-bramaged, subnormal or airhead?
What would the real Socrates say?
First, to make sure you really said what I thought you said. Second, after i picked myself up off the floor laughing my (proverbial) rump off.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
Thanks for posting this video.
Did I hear Rep. Obey near the end of the video say "go f*** with somebody else"?
"The defense of our nation begins with the defense of our borders." - Rep. Tom Tancredo
"go bug somebody else"
Two thirds of the world is covered by water, the other third is covered by Champ Bailey
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
Let's all say it together: "This is one of the best Fridays in the past two years. HOOAH!!"
These are the kinds of Fridays we should be working for in the future, no matter who our eventual Presidential nominee is. Or even if you don't like Ann Coulter so much right now. ;)
She starts by saying her son is a serving Marine about to do a third tour.
But then he is a discharged Marine, suicidal, with PTSD.
Am I missing something?
She is either A) exaggerating his symptoms or B) inventing them or C) making the whole thing up.
In all seriousness, I think she may just be a slow learner, a bit fuzzy on the difference between 'honorable discharge' and 'home on leave'. Her son probably came home on leave, found out his friends back home don't speak his language any more, his mom's a moonbat, and had difficulty adjusting to 'Earth' after having been off-planet it for so long. She notices he's not acting the same as the pup who left for Iraq, and calls it 'suicidal' and PTSD.
He's now probably at Camp LeJeune, shining his boots and getting his devil dog on, and she's in denial that he'd rather be where he is than where she is.
Either that, or he really does need help, and the first Chaplain, doctor, or Corpman he sees will know it.
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It is C and she is just perfecting her acting skills for that street theater group she is a member of.
I think a large number of people on the left have picked up on lies about service as a way to get people to listen to their moonbattyness. Heck, they were even doing it in the Vietnam era. Remember the "winter soldiers" who didn't serve in the military at all?
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
honestly-it sounds like she figured "two tours about to start his third" wasn't garnering enough attention, so she went with plan B, PTSD and discharged to get the sympathy.
Does make me wonder which is the truth and which is the lie.
Love seeing dems get a taste of what they've grown.
and fed their rage. Now let them deal with it - with camera's rolling and youtube of course.
Any bets that this will be covered by the MSM?
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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison
I'm not sure that having these people on the outside and sniping until the end of time was a good thing for America. A two-year taste of this sort of leadership may benefit and sharpen the leadership on both sides of the aisle.
It's only been a few months, and already I'm seeing a lot of upside.
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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.
SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.
If we could get enough of these...that would be a reality show I'd watch.
Actually, Obey works hard, flies coach back to his constituency, and has moments of lucidity between his Pavlovian robo-leftard responsibilities. His the Dem version of Sensenbrenner, another Wisconsin bucking bronco. Or maverick.
This district only went for Kerry with 51% of the vote. We really should run someone against Obey.
Wow...we've been more successful than we thought!