A Gathering of Eagles - Follow Up

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I would like to say thank you to all those that responded to my post about my dilemma regarding my attendance of the Gathering of Eagles. You were uniformly correct in that I should take my son, so I did. We had a discussion about the differing values and my heart swelled at his innocence. “How” he wondered, “could someone hate America so much? People can do whatever they want… as long as they aren’t criminals.” This led into a much deeper discussion regarding the meaning of “irony.”

Indeed, the irony rising from the ANSWER crowd was as palpable as a humid summer’s day in the deep South. I realize that much of my observations were covered elsewhere... more eloquently... by smarter folks, but I’d like to share my humble experience with those of you who couldn’t attend.

Read on . . .

Our day started early with a ride on the DC metro. We (my son, brother, and friend) opted not to drive and park down by the Mall. I was concerned that my VFW stickers would result in some long, key width, scratches down the length of my pickup. So, we got on at the Vienna metro stop and were amazed at the number of veterans that we picked up along every stop as we headed down town. I was doubly amazed at the number of veterans utilizing canes. One joked that he may not be able to move quickly, but that he could “reach out and touch someone a mite easier.” Nice.

That was the feeling. As more veterans met along the route, the sense of comradeship and sense of duty increased. I think that we all hoped that others would show up, but were worried that we would be the only ones there. What does that say about conservatives?

I expected to find a mass of protesters making their way down to the Mall along with us at 7:30am. I was legitimately surprised to find nearly all the veterans massed about 8:00am. After thinking a moment, I mentioned to an SF old timer that it said a lot about the vet that we all make muster at the break of dawn, no matter our age. He mentioned that it was even more remarkable that we hadn’t conducted a Mad Minute. Too true.

As the morning drew onto the afternoon, the Opposition (organized by ANSWER) grew in number. Wow, they were young. Except for the left-over hippies and middle-aged professors, they were all just kids. Kids who had come (late morning) from local universities like George Washington University, Georgetown, American University, and George Mason… had this “massive protest” occurred in Richmond, it would have sported about a thousand die-hards (and even less “Eagles,” BTW). Nonetheless, their passion was laid out on their sleeves. I mean, they were really belting out the chants. Nobody was holding pre-printed signs displaying Bumper-Sticker-Philosophy.

That being said, my next observation regards organization and intent. When we arrived at the muddy pit that was the Gathering of Eagles (there was rain, sleet, and snow on Friday) we noticed a ripping (wicked windy) sea of American flags and patriotic songs playing. Later there would be at least a half-dozen speakers that would speak of God, America, and Service to both. Standing over by the Lincoln Memorial was a stark contrast and clearly outlined the difference between the two.

ANSWER and their ilk had some wicked-awesome music pumpin’ through massive speakers. Some dude with a reggae accent broke in periodically with important information (“We’ve got Wisconsin! Wisconsin is in de house! Stop de war in Iraq!”) that lent their voice to “de Cause”… whenever these voice-overs interrupted the inevitable rendition of “War.”

War is something that I despise
For it means destruction of innocent lives
For it means tears in thousands of mothers' eyes
When their sons go out to fight to give their lives.

Yet another irony is that most of the veterans were singing along. Apparently, this is a song that crosses many lines. The retired vet that I was standing next to said, “Man, I love this song, too.” Yep, guilty. Somehow, however, I feel like I’ve earned the right to agree. I’ve paid (and witnessed) the price.

Bascially, ANSWER has organized a huge party. There were no speeches (until much later at the Pentagon, apparently) and no attempts at dialogue. It was simply a draw for the old and radical, and the young and gullible.

We were extremely fortunate to have a number of dedicated organizers at the rally. While I’m sure that I can’t know everyone who lent themselves to this enterprise, I did see several placards carried by the Freepers. It was a picture of Saddam in a noose (pre-hung) with a caption of “Sic Sempre Tyrannis” (Thus always to tyrants). Indeed. While there were some pre-fab signs that read things along the lines of, “The War is either HERE, or THERE” or “Peace through superior fire power” or our own Mr. Hahn’s “Go to hell traitors. You dishonor our dead on hallowed ground.” I applaud you, sir!

The Opposition, however, was much more predictable (and yet strangely not so). The vast majority of signs were pre-fabricated and handed out by ANSWER. Some of the more inventive signs I saw included “Capitalists Against the War” (yeah, right)… “Radical Queers Against the War” (no doubt), and something about not having ‘merely a war, but a “class war.”’ Brilliant. No dialogue. No debate. No sense of fear. No knowledge of the world outside their own. No ability to reason. No meaningful future. Sad. Really sad.

We got bored. We decided to move toward the porta-potties. The sidewalks between the Lincoln Memorial and the Eagles area was absolutely packed with veterans. There were few liberals that made it through the area, as far as I could see. I stopped one jerk (headed into Eagle territory from ANSWER) with long hair, dressed in ACUs and with make-up depicting a head gunshot wound. He said that we had to all work together to end the war. I scornfully said that he was clearly looking for a confrontation and that I was pretty offended as I had a close buddy who died from such a wound (from an insurgent). Unsurprisingly, he just moved on. I really wanted to clean his clock.

We finally reached the porta-potties. We had to wait for a long line at the Vietnam Veteran’s Memorial. Just getting by was difficult with the lines of vets who were waiting to see it for the first time. That was a pretty moving experience by itself. The blue potties were yet another clever taunt of the protestors. The first had a sign that read, “Jane Fonda’s Field Office.” I don’t care which side you’re on, that’s pretty daggone funny!

Shortly thereafter, we ran into a very young woman dressed in pink, attempting to engage a group of leather-clad veterans in some sort of dialogue. As I was walking up (and eventually stopped) I heard:

Code-pinker: “Seriously. Why don’t we spend all that money on sending kids to college?!?”

Stone-faced Vet: “I did that. Three goddamn times.”

Code-pinker: “No. Seriously. Why can’t you just listen to ‘us’?”

Stone-face Vet: “Because you can’t even articulate an alternative solution.”

Code-pinker: “No, seriously!”

Stone-faced Vet: “……….”

Code-pinker: “Seriously, you people are impossible to talk to!”

Me: “See, when you use a term like ‘you people’ you let us all know that you aren’t interested in dialogue. You think that we should have just acquiesced to your superior experience and wisdom . Too bad you have neither.

Code-pinker: “… Seriously!”

Too easy. We find ourselves bored again and find ourselves on Constitution, near the entrance to the Eagles site. There are a couple of Ignoramus’ that would like to convince the nearest Vietnam Vets that they are misguided in trusting the government. These überinformed liberals were, in turn, informed that they were correct… a Congress led by Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid shouldn’t be trusted. There was a stunned pause by the liberal at the depth of knowledge displayed by the veterans (or possibly the recalculation of a miscalculation). Needless to say, the moonbats retreated to their ‘posse.’

For a full picture. I have a friend whom I will call “Bill.” Bill is a federal law-enforcement agent who is undercover with the radical left. He was with the Opposition folks and gave me a rare glimpse into the reaction inside the radical’s camp (a comprehensive post about his experience is forth-coming). He said that the typical reaction to the Eagles was one of incredulousness. He heard most describe the single-finger-showing vets as “illiterate hooligans.” “Unintelligent” and “stupid” were other oft-used descriptors. Nice. We, however, never used the word “illiterate.” Instead, I heard words like “spoiled,” “ungrateful,” and “ignorant.” I also heard several vets utilize their First Amendment right to express by explaining “Fuh Q!”

He also mentioned that EVERYONE was intimidated by the counter-protest. Those who had planned to make trouble (the anarchists) and those who had never met a veteran (all the rest) were absolutely in awe of the turnout of the veterans and other supporters. It was as if all the polls had somehow turned upside down. Bill said that this was the first time that any protestors had encountered any meaningful opposition SINCE THE VIETNAM ERA. I suppose that means the “silent majority” ought to be deeply ashamed. Here the protestors have gone along (albeit nearly completely ignorant of reality) without opposition since the onset of OIF!

By the way, I consider a hard-core dude, and I was moved to tears on a number of occasions. First, the feeling of camaraderie in the face of the Opposition was awesome. The second is the common theme among the Vietnam Vets. It went something along the lines of: Nobody stood up for me while I was in the fight, so if I don’t stand up for the troops… who will?

That last nearly brought me to tears every single time… and I heard it time and again. I guarantee, we youngsters got the message. We know who has our back. (Bitterness ON) Incidentally, if any RedStaters live in the D.C. area and didn’t attend… you are dead to me. I took my eleven year-old and saw many men carrying their infants in rucksacks. I’m sincerely PO’ed that more local conservatives didn’t show. Heritage? Townhall? Any conservative celebrities? Nope. Any conservative politicians? No again. ……… Oh, I get it. The veterans are left to do ALL the work. We train, fight and return to crappy conditions. We are underpaid and over-utilized, but unworthy of meaningful respect. Again, if you live in the D.C. are and didn’t attend, you should be ashamed of yourself. (Bitterness OFF)

As we stood along the Lincoln Memorial, members of the Military Veterans Motorcycle Club checked to make sure of your loyalty. Some on RedState have already questioned this practice. Let me be clear when I say that the lines between US and THEM were exquisitely clear and the only folks crossing into the aforementioned area were there to make trouble. Very few tried, and none succeeded. Have a problem with that? Show up next time and take it up with the serious men in black leather. Otherwise, I recommend you keep your own counsel!

While waiting in the ridiculously ripping wind, I found myself talking to yet another Eagle. Her name was “Carolyn,” and she was a teacher from Maine. She had driven over eight hours to be at the Wall and show her support. A woman in her 50s, she told me that she was absolutely sickened by the teachers getting hired out of college. She was sickened by their biases and their complete lack of objectivity in teaching students. “Carolyn” was simply appalled at the “best” this newer generation had to offer and came in an attempt to absolve them. I believe that she left without that absolution, but with a greater sense of personal pride and mission. She told me what an honor it was to stand beside such veterans and that she was ready to guard our flanks. She was representative of those Eagles who were non-veterans. The honor was mine. De Oppresso Libre.

Cross-posted at http://fastsquirrel.blogspot.com

is that good men do nothing.

Thank you for doing something.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

On behalf of those of us who couldn't join you.

De Opresso Liber - SF Motto

Win their hearts and minds. If that doesn't work, grab them by the ba**s, and their hearts and minds will follow! - SF mantra

and to all who showed up. Can't help but feel guilty regardless of geography. Leaving it for others to pull the load. We all should do something to help.

Instead of attempting to engage protesters with meaningful dialogue as to the merits of fighting the global war on terror, we should attempt to win them over by feeding Mumia Abu Jamal to the insurgents. This would serve two purposes: 1) rid the US of that cop killer, 2) turn the protestors into our allies once they see the brutality of the insurgents towards their icon.

... is a common sign brandished by Freepers at these events.

Drink Good Coffee. You can sleep when you're dead.

    ...our own Mr. Hahn’s “Go to hell traitors.

I cannot take credit for the sign; I merely helped brace it against the wind. The MOAB (Mother of All Banners) is a product of the DC Chapter of Free Republic.

Drink Good Coffee. You can sleep when you're dead.

We know who has our back.

Your post reminded me of why I joined, and how little I've actually done since.

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See the Academy

I can't imagine someone being more eloquent on these points. Thought I was reading Michael Yon. Nice job.

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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.

SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.

"Oh, I get it. The veterans are left to do ALL the work."

And nobody does it better. This sounds like stuff that will be told and retold, and I saw no account more moving than yours. It seems to me that Gathering of Eagles was about those brave enough to serve. Again, you faced America's enemies -- this time, internal and incomparably less violent -- and again, you won. And again, a nation owes you there thanks.

If the lefties keep agitating, and they no doubt will, perhaps others will be given strength by what you've done this past weekend and join you next time.

...see this all the time. A protest, pro or con, is about as eventful as a tropical shower is to a life long resident of a Carribean Island(your pick). D.O.D. personnel were told to Stay Away! a few days before. I bunked at my brothers the night before and he was thinking about attending it that night, but when morning came he had thought better of it and simply said 'call me and let me know how it's going'.

...the Counterprotest. These Veterans could be a political force to be reckoned with, The SwiftBoating of John Kerry, Saturday's event on six weeks notice were prodigious feats considering they were both banned by the media. No Coverage! Zero! Zip! Nada! None!
If I were Senator Longnose from NY, or Representative Botox from San Francisco I would keep watch over my shoulder to my rear, because one of the skills these guys learned while they were over there, was how to approach the enemy silently and unobserved.
Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!
You quoted them saying as much.

The moonbats came out in strength this past Saturday to Davis-Monthan Air Force Base. Their goal: dampen the fun for people attending the air show.

We make a point to get there hours in advance and stake out all the street corners. Good thing we did. This year's moonbat crew included two jerks dressed up in orange prison jumpsuits with chains around their necks and hoods over their heads. Holding the chains was an old "gentleman" dressed...in an Air Force flight suit. Wow---I didn't know that USAF pilots were interrogating prisoners at Gitmo! Mmmmm, you learn something every day. Actually, I should give him the benefit of the doubt, and presume that that was his own special, twisted, freak way of honoring the US Air Force. (As an aside, another moonbat chose to honor our Air Force by holding up a sign that says "Air War = Terror." Tell that to the Kurds, whose safety and freedom flourished under the protective cover of Operation NORTHERN WATCH.)

Well, this little performance theater freak show decided to cross the street and stand right at the base entrance. (Right where WE were standing). They wanted to stand where every air show visitor, Air Force airman/woman and their families entering/exiting the base could see them. Nice. They also brought two cameramen (full disclosure---one was a woman) to record any infringement of their civil liberties. When they got to our side of the street, we surrounded them, so their little display would be as shielded from the AF personnel and families as possible.

(We couldn't totally block them. These freaks had training. They got a position on the edge of the curb. By law, we couldn't stand in the street to obscure them...they knew that. But, no laws were broken when our flags just kept waving directly in front of/over them! My, ya gotta love those Tucson breezes...)

We could see that the base personnel were happy that we were there. I remember one pilot in his flight suit, with the top of his convertible down, driving by us, honking his horn and pumping his fist in solidarity. Our troops need to SEE us supporting them, especially at times when a show of solidarity is important.

Last Saturday was one of those times. Next opportunity---May 1st. The moonbats plan to march again. I'll bet there's a moonbat march somewhere in your neighborhood. If so, contact your local vets organization, and go stand with them in counter-protest. (Bring plenty of sunscreen and water!)

"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)

First, please know that I applaud everyone who showed up for this rally. I wish I could have been there myself. I'm curious about one thing though:

Incidentally, if any RedStaters live in the D.C. area and didn’t attend… you are dead to me. ... I’m sincerely PO’ed that more local conservatives didn’t show. Heritage? Townhall? Any conservative celebrities? Nope. Any conservative politicians?

I live in TX and never even heard about it until after the fact so I guess I'm off the hook. But I'm curious to know how this event was publicized. Who did the organizing? Was it only promoted in the DC area? The point was mentioned last week that we conservatives aren't very good at organizing and this seems to be a great example. Was there an article about this on any other conservative online forum? I don't recall seeing it on Redstate (or did I miss it?).

This is not a critique of the ones who attended, but rather a question for the organizers. The right to life groups recently had a rally in Washington and it was heavily promoted on EWTN (Catholic cable channel) during the weeks leading up to it. I don't recall hearing anything about it on Redstate though. They did manage to bring in groups from all over the US and there were politicians there.

www.scottbomb.com

About six weeks ago a radical crew called "SBS" starting to put out statements about vandalizing the Vietnam War Memorial. SBS are "serious" anarchists. This is the same crew that spray painted the Capitol building and smashed a D.C. military recruiting office during the last protest.

In response, the Freepers and MoveAmericaForward started a grassroots movement to get people out to protect the monuments. The Gathering of Eagles was all over the internet (Ms. Malkin being one... also, notice my earlier blog about it... linked at the top of the page (thanks Jeff)).

Through veterans groups, milblogs/rings, and other interested parties, the GOE just gained a ton of steam. For perspective, ANSWER has been planning this for a year. It is the 40th anniversary of the massive anti-war rally featured in "Forrest Gump" (reportedly 500K strong). They had George Soros funding them and the entire college-campus lefty network at their disposal.

The GOE, in six weeks, pulled together a spectacular response. It is entirely possible that the GOE outnumbered the moonbats. Probable even. There was no advertising, just outreach through veteran's groups and the internet. There was no big time funding, other than donations from individuals.

The important thing is to keep this going. It apparently shook the Opposition to not have carte blanch in our nation's capitol.

Incidentally, this was not supposed to be a partisan event. No doubt there were Eagles who are wary of the war. They came to protect the monuments and left protecting our honor.

I wrote much of this blog under the happy influence of green beer. Please forgive some of the stuff that seems strange and out of place. It made sense at the time.

Also, I hope that you know that none of you are really dead to me. :)

The GOE organizers had laid down a hard and fast rule: no politicians. None were invited, and those who offered to speak were turned down.

Drink Good Coffee. You can sleep when you're dead.

Regardless, it would have been cool to see some of them show up in Levi's and a VFW cap. Surely there are couple who could pull off the motif...

Allen
Santorum
That's just off the top of my head. Though I must admit that Santorum and Allen aren't in office anymore, but that's no excuse...

There are those who look on Dresden and Tokyo and Hiroshima as some of the greatest evils ever perpetrated by man. I look on them and thank the perpetrators for saving millions.

the entire R delegation from AZ with the exception of McCain (can't pander, won't show)...
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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.
J. Michael Waller

Some friends of mine who live in VA went, and I plan on thanking and congratulating them tomorrow.

Here is a concern that I have - as a non-veteran, would I be helpful participating at a GOE event like this? It is really a question of worthiness - as a non-vet, I honestly do not feel worthy of the honor of standing next to a veteran in this situation.

Thoughts from vets? I would LOVE to attend the next GOE gathering, if only to bring the vets some water when they need it. I'm serious.

Events like these are open to ALL supporters of our troops and their cause. Plus, it's always a good sign when citizens are willing to stand side-by-side with those who safeguarded them.

"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)

One of the points in my post was that we need like-minded folks to join us in ACTION. You are very worthy, my friend. I, for one, would be proud to have you on my flank. I hope to see you at the next "engagement!"

I also thought it had come to nothing when I read nothing about it here last week.
Imagine my surprise to find it posted several times over this weekend. A weekend when I actually had Saturday off and could have attended had I known the right date.

Hopefully I will be able to make the next one...

There are those who look on Dresden and Tokyo and Hiroshima as some of the greatest evils ever perpetrated by man. I look on them and thank the perpetrators for saving millions.

Maybe we can make some nifty RedState signs like the Freepers...

We are proud of you. I am from the Midwest and would have driven out if possible, but I'm not a veteran. I would have done it for a family member who served two tours in this war.

I also want to thank those who have been faithfully counterprotesting at other times when they were vastly outnumbered. The "pro-peace" crowd can be pretty intimidating--we've all seen videos of the treatment people get; ironically being surrounded and their signs covered.

Lastly, thank you to all who went to Washington and "answered" the big, bad anarchists who spray painted the Capitol. And without knowing if you'd be outnumbered. It did this heart good to know they couldn't get away with it this time!

To support the troops. Don't think that just because you never served you aren't worthy of standing next to those who have. You may not be worthy of taking their coats at the door, but that doesn't mean you aren't worthy of standing next to them in support of those whose blood buys your freedom.
Anyone who recognizes what the men and women in uniform stand for is worthy of doing that.

There are those who look on Dresden and Tokyo and Hiroshima as some of the greatest evils ever perpetrated by man. I look on them and thank the perpetrators for saving millions.

 
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