LA-GOV: Dems attack Jindal's religious writings
By Vladimir Posted in 2007 — Comments (17) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
Stop the presses! Piyosh "Bobby" Jindal wrote extensively a decade ago on his conversion from Hinduism to Christianity, specifically Catholicism.
And the Louisiana Democratic Party is running ads in the heavily Protestant (read: Catholic-phobic) north Louisiana media markets of Shreveport, Monroe and Alexandria.
Jindal, currently U.S. Rep from the First District, based in the New Orleans suburb of Kenner, is a Republican and the leading candidate for this fall's Governor's race.
Jindal's writings mostly appeared in the New Oxford Review which are reviewable in full only by subscription. The excerpts on the "jindalonreligion" website appear to be misleading and taken completely out of context.
Story in the Baton Rouge Morning Advocate here.
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sometime didn't they? This must be what democrats/liberals mean when they talk about reality. Too bad Jindal didn't convert to islam, then he'd be untouchable.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
Is will Catholic Mary Landrieu condemn the ads? This question should be asked again and again and again every time she makes an appearance until she answers. It won't be, because we still haven't figured out how to throw a punch as hard as the netroots.
I see a couple of things here. The first is that it appears to me from your writing and other things I have read that Jindal would need an unprecedented reversal to lose. There is either a huge skeleton in his closet or several bad gaffees. Short of that he is the next governor of Louisiana. In this respect, much of the attacks that you have highlighted here are pure political desperation and should be taken as a confidence builder by the Jindal campaign. You know things look desperate for the opponent when they rely on some obscure writing years and years ago that has nothing to do with the campaign (see George Allen's attack on Jim Webb regarding a novel Jim Webb wrote). Second, I hope you will find this to be a delicious piece of irony. It is not only you that is interested in this story, but Kos himself...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/21/121646/092
of course, and I know this will shock you, he sees this less as a desperate attack by a trailing politician, and more as a serious story to be examined. For a guy who traffics in a site that hates just about everything including Christianity itself, this is really the definition of chutzpah.
"The nine most dangerous words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"
Ronald Reagan
Thanks, mr volpe, the post below was intended to be a reply to you.
This offensive TV ad featuring a "kinder, gentler" faux-Kathleen needs to be shouted from the rooftops. If it's such a compelling message, why is it not playing statewide?
Such a champion of the victims of religious persecution is Mr. Markos Whats-his-name. We should all get down on our knees and thank Gaia (or other multiculturally-acceptable deity(ies) of your choice) for his vigilance.
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. - David St. Hubbins
the captain, http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
here is an excerpt...
"One of the most consequential, and yet neglected, Reformation beliefs is the view that utterly depraved man is incapable of meaningful sanctification. This rejection of spiritual regeneration and subsequent separation of spiritual from physical realities has resulted in various widely held current beliefs, ranging from predestination to nominalism. Yet Luther was wrong to claim that our sins are as dung covered by snow, for he underestimated both God's justice and His power. Faith does more than cause God to ignore our sins, for His grace is enough to accomplish a true spiritual rebirth. In embracing God's grace, our righteousness becomes imparted, as our sins and their effects are "removed from us"
now, the important thing here is that he is way above my head. The reason that I point this out is that I doubt most Louisiana voters are any more intelligent on this subject than me, so this debate will go nowhere. It will be sniffed out for the smear that it is and we will all move on, except maybe the Kos kids who will try and hyperanalyze.
By the way, they aren't simply protecting their copyright, but they charge to get the articles from their archives, in other words, how dare they be capitalists.
"The nine most dangerous words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"
Ronald Reagan
knows no bounds. He has published another detailed diary that I can only assume is what he considers proof that Jindal hates everyone. Wow!!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/21/16478/6735
for a few laughs follow the theological discussion in the comments section. I will give a taste with a comment entitled I am a recovering Catholic...
even I'm offended by that bullsh[*]t...and I don't even believe in god anymore. I used to, until I went to a Baptist high school for a year...and, in retrospect, think it's somewhat ironic that my faith (at that time) was more in tune with the Hindu religion (I asked my teachers at the time--my only being 14--if it wasn't possible that Catholics and Xians were BOTH right...that there were multiple ways of entering heaven. Boy, did that idea get shot down with a heavy load of buckshot.)...
Anyway, I think the attack ad is something best left to the Republicans. F[*]ckin' catholics are as crazy as anyone else.
"The nine most dangerous words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"
Ronald Reagan
Let some evangelical minister try to interject religion into politics, and kos and his minions would be all over it like a duck on a june bug.
What's funny is those nitwits debating the theological validity of his writing, and suggesting that somehow, that is a reflection on his suitability to serve as governor.
They would have fewer bones to pick, theologically, if he were interpreting astrology or making divinations based on bird guts.
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. - David St. Hubbins
"dead on balls accurate"
"The nine most dangerous words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"
Ronald Reagan
I love how dkos instantly signs on to the issue. This campaign is all about giving the cracker/redneck/xenophobe vote a reason to vote against Jindal other than the fact that his skin tone is quite dark. These people1 are scum.
Note that I intentionally did not link the anti-Jindal site (as did kos in his personal diary) as it seems to me to be awfully close to a hate site.
"It's worth noting that Louisiana Dems are pulling this material from the New Oxford Review, which used the copyright provision of the DCMA to force Daily Kos to pull PDF scans of Jindal's articles from this site."
How dare they enforce copyright laws!
I'm not going to subscribe to check out the quotes, either. The one thing I did read was the part where Jindal supposedly called Hinduism "attractive" relative to Christianity. In context, for anyone with a 4th grade level of reading comprehension, he was saying that Hinduism's philosophy appeals to many young people more than traditional fire and brimstone Christianity. I expect the whole deal to be a bunch of quotes similarly taken out of context.
I must say, as a Methodist Protestant living in predominantly Catholic South Louisiana, Jindal's religion is a non-issue to me. Even if he were to go on TV burning voodoo dolls of Charles and John Wesley while reciting the 23rd Psalm backwards, he offers this State more hope, intelligence and integrity than all of his potential competitors combined.
1 - Did he mean kos, the Louisiana Democratic Party, or the "cracker/redneck/xenophobe vote"? Well, um, yes.
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. - David St. Hubbins
this paper sounds like a deep thesis in religion and philosophy. Most people aren't going to understand it. They aren't going to assume he hates Catholics just because a political opponent's add says so and if it becomes debated, it will frankly all become way to complicated for anyone to understand and thus no one will care. I think they are a lot more worried about whether or not N.O. gets rebuilt, jobs come back, and the state turns itself around than they are about what he said in some obscure magazine more than ten years ago.
I just find the irony and chutzpah of Kos to be ridiculous. For him to suggest another person is full of hate toward Catholics, well pot this is kettle you're black.
"The nine most dangerous words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"
Ronald Reagan
He seems like a pretty reasonable guy and well respected in Louisiana. I'd think he would find this an offensive way for the Louisiana Democratic Party to be spending money.
Similarly I'd love to see hte Archbishop of New Orleans issue a statement expressing disgust at the LDP Catholic-bashing.
Last time around weren't people in North LA told they needed to vote for Blanco because she was whiter-looking than Jindal? She's Catholic too, so obviously they couldn't use the religion argument in that race.
Blanco's strategy was three-fold as I understand it:
- In North LA she was the WHITE candidate
- In South LA she was the CAJUN candidate
- In Orleans Parish she was the DEMOCRATIC candidate
One thing's for sure: We can expect the libs in LA to argue on anything other than merit or ideas.