Obama blames "ethic of greed" as he heads for the trough

in which I am fair to John Edwards

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If there is one thing I am passionate about it is fairness. Indeed, I'm passionately passionate on the subject.

Back when John Edwards was still the next president of the United States I noted his ability to live in one of his "two Americas" (that would be the one with 10,000 sq ft houses) while milking the other (that would be the one populated by the rest of us) for all it was worth.

I don't know if I mentioned it, but I'm all about fairness. So when I saw this in Politico I felt I had no choice but to act on my passion for fairness.

Barack Obama went to New York on Thursday and blamed lobbyists, greedy businessmen and complacent Washington politicians for creating “an ethic of greed” that led to today’s foreclosure crisis.

Not long after he left the stage, the Democratic presidential hopeful attended a fundraiser held by his campaign in a room in the Manhattan headquarters of Credit Suisse, one of the major investment companies caught up in the subprime lending mess.


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These are the same guys who bought alot of the subprime securities that they are now choking on ... I'm sure they'll buy what Obama is selling ... just another slick con man selling snake oil ...

Oh and a BIG supporter of racist anti-American churches and one rotten grandson to boot ...


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

"Today’s event was a general fundraiser in a room paid for by our campaign and attended by people from varied backgrounds who are committed to changing the tone of our politics"

"In truth, all of the candidates have made multiple trips to New York’s financial district — including the big investment firms now caught up in the mortgage meltdown — to collect cash for their campaigns in the past two years.

Bear Stearns, the near-bankrupt investment house that set off the latest market upheaval and the largest underwriter of mortgage bonds last year, was a regular donor.

Clinton has received $122,160 from Bear executives. Obama collected $40,925 and presumptive GOP nominee John McCain pocketed $66,800."

In case you guys didn't want to read the article.

Can you tell me how this reduces Obama's hypocrisy ?


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

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He used a Credit Suisse room, but it wasn't donated. They paid for it. If you mean by not boycotting the Credit Suisse all together makes him hypocritical, then so be it. Just seems like a moot point. Is he wrong in his statements on who is to blame for the credit crisis?

Just seems a little silly to jump all over this one.
"just another slick con man selling snake oil "

If we listened to every two-bit Omabaniac hack like you who (dis)graced us with their presence, we'd lay off of every single thing that The Obama does that is hypocritical, anti-American, and 100% politics-as-usual, and instead sit on our hands and wait for policy-only differences to highlight, while he remains 99% free of any policy statements whatsoever and keeps laughing all the way to the Bank at 1600 PA Ave.

In other words, shove it. In other other words (yours in fact), it "[j]ust seems a little silly to jump all over" us here if we're really that far off base.

Unless you're scared.

Wimp.

I thought you all might welcome some opposing views. I'm just trying to engage in a discussion. I want to talk about this stuff. Not just read cheerleader BS. I'm not saying I'm always "right", just want to hear other views. I'm all for criticizing members of both parties, it just seems like this one is not a good example of hypocrisy.

Sorry to step on your high heels, tough guy.

You'll have to explain how knocking other candidates is an opposing view ? Especially when they haven't gone holier than thou on the issue* and Obama has.

*In Obama's case he is holier than everybody on any issue. He is the hope bringer, the agent of change, the savior to us all. Or was that the messiah ? Pardon me I grow confused.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Your right, I do expect more from Obama.
I see your point.

Not trying to be a troll.

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I thought you all might welcome some opposing views. I'm just trying to engage in a discussion.... RIGHT!

I mean, all us stoopid Redneck hicks didn't even pick up on the RINO-DOG screen name. Duhh...

Honestly that was not intended. But thanks for pointing that out. I had never heard of that site.

that this was the only available room in the city.

You seem pretty nonchalant about this considering Obamessiah's message of HopeChangeHopeChange and his forswearing politics as usual.

"A man does what he can and endures what he must."

One only look at the record profits oil companies are racking in, the Enron collapse and scandal, the growing divide between rich and poor in this country, the increasing number of those without health care. On a personal note, I have been without health insurance for nearly 10 years because my premiums increased to $1,200 per month (I was penalized for pre-existing conditions).

My Christian faith tells me to help lift up those who can not help themselves. I feel our country has grown callous towards those in need. I'm not saying Obama has the answers. But I do think we need to take a close, objective, and compassionate look at what our country has become and whether we really are helping those in need.

"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."

-- Leonardo Da Vinci

Achieving the dream of ending need ?


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

"My Christian faith tells me to help lift up those who can not help themselves." You're just looking for a handout. I don't mean to feed the troll here, but Obama came to my hometown a week ago, and I listened to his speech and it was all about how people shouldn't be denied health care just because they can't afford it. Or Education just because they can't afford it. What wasn't in the speech was how this would be paid for. Or how this was an American ideal that everything is provided by the government. You want universal health care? Go to the UK and wait in line with everyone else over there. I could go on, but it's a waste of my breath. I swear, the only thing I enjoy about this election year is that the Dems are open liars and vastly under qualified. We're not here to look closely at communism and socialism. Others have done that before and have all failed.

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But the truth is my premiums shot up and I simply couldn't afford them. $1,200 a month is very expensive for my family. We had to make choices, food or health care, shelter or health care. Those are very difficult choices. I work full time, and so does my husband. And we support our family with no assistance from anyone else. It would be nice to have health care though. Why is that so much to ask?

I'm not suggesting we move toward socialism. But I do feel that some at Redstate and in our society in general lack compassion. Not everyone who can't afford health care is looking for a handout or lazy. As you'll note from my redstate name, "nomorenannystate" I don't like government programs to prop people up who are not willing to help themselves. But sometimes life can hit a family hard through no fault of their own.

Why is affordable health care such a problem with some of those at Redstate?

"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."

-- Leonardo Da Vinci

If so, writing from a pseudonym doesn't make it very persuasive.

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If you are making decisions between healthcare and shelter, then you and your husband obviously have incomes within range for SCHIP, at least for the kids. And many states allow adults in the plan. Plus, if your coverage does not cover the pre-existing conditions, then the premiums should not be that much higher than normal. I'd like to know more how those plans you found would have worked. I am serious, and am not maligning your situation at all.
Here in Florida, they have had SCHIP money left over because folks are not enrolling. I prefer to believe it's because the need is not there, but maybe folks are too proud to take the assistance (and I understand that old-fashioned shame well).

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Thanks GreginFlorida. Finally, someone who doesn't hurl insults at me or accuse me of being a troll. Actually, my family is too proud to ask for any government assistance. We want to take care of our family on our own. But when my husband was laid off from work some years ago and then took a new job with a smaller firm that didn't provide health insurance, we were forced to give up health coverage. I need medical coverage for my illness, Cushings Disease, but no health insurance policies would cover me without extremely high premiums. So we don't want government assistance, we have not enrolled in SCHIP. We would like to find a plan that is affordable so we can pay for it ourselves. But after years of looking for such a policy we realized that we simply could not afford health care. My condition has worsened and I fear that I may soon have to stop working.

We are real people with real problems that are beyond our control. From some of the posts I've read here, some at Redstate think my family should just suck it up, go without health insurance, and not question why the US does not provide affordable health care. We're not asking for a handout. We're asking for care that we can realistically afford to pay for. That's not socialism. That's being reasonable and compassionate.

And I worry that many conservatives have a Social Darwinist attitude. Those who can't survive, even if they are hit with health problems beyond their control, oh well, too bad, just suffer. I'm not that kind of conservative. I'm a Christian conservative who believes we should help those in need.

"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."

-- Leonardo Da Vinci

A couple thigs first: As a Christian, have you asked for help from your church? Also, you should still be able to health insurance for your entire family, but it would be a policy that does not cover your Cushings disease. Right?
Please take help from those who are willing to help. Even if it means SCHIP. We Christian conservatives help fund those programs, so just view it as assistance from your fellow believers, not the faceless government. When you see friends and acquaintances that are also fellow taxpayers, tell them thank you for helping you out. Feel free to pay it forward as you see fit. I'll be cashing that "Economic Stimulus Payment" as soon it arrives in the mail, with little guilt or shame (and little need for it as well).

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-- Saving baby whales and baby trees, but killing baby humans. Huh?
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