Incompetent lib bloggers can't remember if incompetent Reid called Pace incompetent (he did), and don't care anyway
Replace the first two "incompetents" with your adjectives of choice (just not in the comments)
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Earlier this week, the Politico broke the news that Dingy Harry Reid - in a conference call with far-left bloggers - had called outgoing Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Marine General Peter Pace, an "incompetent yes-man."
The story exploded via Drudge, FNC, CNN, and other outlets, and sparked a great deal of movement on both sides of the aisle. Conservatives began bashing Reid for the gall brought on by his pathetic, inferiority-complex-driven need for approval from the netroots, and the left began furiously backing away from the story, questioning if it had ever actually happened in the first place.
TPM Cafe's Election Central today reported that they asked several bloggers on the call if they had heard Reid call Pace "incompetent," and all denied remembering the use of such language.
Read on . . .
"I don't remember him saying anything like that," [Daily Kos blogger Joan McCarter] answered. "I can't swear he didn't say it. But I have no memory that he actually did. It's not in my notes."
Asked if Reid had disparaged Petraeus at all, McCarter said: "No. He said something about [Petraeus] coming back in September to deliver a report." But on the question of whether he'd said something disparaging, McCarter said: "Not that I recall, no.""I don't even recall Pace's name specifically being mentioned," adds Barbara Morrill, who blogs at Kos under the name BarbinMD and says she was on the call. "If it was, he did not say that he was incompetent."
Asked if he'd criticized Petraeus, Morrill said: "Not that I recall. I checked my notes," and there was nothing like this."
The comments, of course, went much further, calling the story of Reid's comments "made up," and accusing the "right wing" of again trying to "smear" Democrats.
Woops. At the same time that this report was being posted, Reid was in front of a gaggle of reporters admitting that he had, in fact, called Pace just that - and then demanding that the media "just forget about it."
This evening, TPMCafe posted a partial transcript the blogger call in question, and - sure enough - the comment was in there - regardless of how or why it was done, the Senate Majority Leader not only called the nation's highest ranking military officer "incompetent," but he bragged about having said it to the man's face.
If that story (which rings of schoolyard "yeah-I-hit-a-bully" yarns) is in fact true, then suffice to say that Harry Reid is very, very lucky that Gen. Pace is the professional he is. The rest of that thought I'll leave to your imagination.
And the rest of this affair can be summed up with this, courtesy of Glenn:
[The reason why none of the bloggers in question were even able to recall the statement being made is that,] most likely, those sorts of statements just don't make much of an impression with the netroots. Which is ironic, since Reid probably made them for their benefit.
...Reader Stan Smith mocks them for their Scooter Libby stance: "And these folks can't
even remember what someone said mere DAYS ago...."Call Patrick Fitzgerald!
Ah. Incompetence all around.
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than I suspect anyone he nominated is at best dangerously incompetent and at worst exceedingly corrupt according to Reid. If you asked him for Bush's five best nominees, you'd probably get:
1) Judge Janet Neff
2) SecTrans Norm Mineta
3) Can't think of any others who were not losers
I wouldn't call what the liberal bloggers who failed to remember events which Reid was confessing to "incompetence" exactly.
It sounds more like simple lying as part of their continued effort to hide the true colors of their movement from public view. Or if not lying, a failure to even notice such toxic rhetoric because it simply smells the same as the sewage where they permanently reside.
...inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt on the "lying" part, and agree with Glenn that it's more a sign that they're so desensitized to all this that Reid's calling the highest-ranking military man in the nation "incompetent" didn't even register, let alone stick in their minds.
Senator Reid MUST be reminded that it takes one to know one.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/06/country-needs-illegal-alien-presi...
With malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see right.
But it still seems like the line in question from the TPMCafe site leaves it as an ambiguity. Senator Harry Reid may have referred to President Bush in the sentence.
but a little bit of reading would prevent a tragic instance of self beclowning.
REID: [...] Pace is also a yes-man for the President. I told him to his face, I laid it out last time he came in to see me. I told him what an incompetent man I thought he was. [...]
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
The "he was really talking about Bush" meme was picked up by the Lefties at TPM shortly after their "the quote was made up" defense was wrecked. They're no more serious about it than they were about John Kerry's "stuk in Irak" joke being made about the President.
I don't much care either way, but from a grammatical perspective, you've got to admit the statement is certainly a little ambiguous.
The leftwing bloggers really may be telling the truth when they say they don't recall Reid making the comments-and he hits the nail on the head, when he says it is probably because they are so used to such comments they don't seem all that memorable.
Reid was of course trying to throw redmeat to the netroots, but they apparently were already too full to care.
was General Pace would slaughter this guy in the real world and then my second thought was heck I could kick his whiney petulant child a%%, heh.
Reid’s entire life pales in comparison to General Pace’s career (which I am sure you are familiar with). After all the things Reid has said about us having lost the war and never mind the personal attacks on the President, it appears he does not.
I understand politics is a contact sport, but Reid takes it to new lows. This is all of course part of the appeasement to liberal bloggers and their ilk, once again showing their penchant for dishonesty and propagating fallacy. I suspect the bet is that “Bush Hate” and “Iraq Derangement Syndrome (“IDS”) will rue the day and win elections. After all, it’s not hard to see the combined perfidy of Schumer and Emanuel conspiring to hope emotion trumps common sense until 2008.
What does this say about the Democrat Party or even the good people of Nevada? I don’t know but I sure hope they are paying attention because not only is this false, but it also does not appear to be in the best interest of anyone.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
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You said...Reid’s entire life pales in comparison.
We call him Dingy Harry, and pronounce it ding-ee, like the small row-boat, but meaning ding-bat or ding-dong. It's our own little slang word for the putrid pile.
But the word actually is pronounced din-gee and means dirty looking, or faded to a dirty look, like an old yellow shirt that is all washed out.
It's a two-fer. However you pronounce it, it covers dirty harry very well, the incompetent *******.
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
When honorable men who serve their country are besmirched and defamed for political gain. Truly a sad state of affairs for our country.
There was a time when the need for politics to stop at the waters edge was understood by one and all. You did not criticise our military commanders in public, since they are governed by the rules to not respond. Decorum prevailed.
Then one party went off the rails and has become a caricatures of respect and civility. In the process of playing the game that the ends justify the means, it is getting our soldiers killed and attacked unnecessarily. Which anyone with a brain was the reason for politics to stop at the waters edge in the first place. Otherwise, you become the enemies sock puppet.
Today's Democrat party, the enemies daily sock puppet, and they see nothing wrong with that.
Recall, last year, that word got out that liberal blogger Jerome Armstrong had had a run-in with the SEC, in which Armstrong was suspected of using his blog for stock touting. If discussed widely in the blogosphere, that wouldn't have made the libs look good.
(Too bad Harry Reid didn't get the memo.)
Kos e-mailed key liberal bloggers asking them NOT to discuss the story.
My request to you guys is that you ignore this for now. It would make my life easier if we can confine the story...If any of us blog on this right now, we fuel the story. Let's starve it of oxygen.
Maybe we're seeing the same thing again. If the ones being asked to corroborate the story---the liberal blogges who'd been in on the teleconference in the first place----were to have a bout of selective fogginess of memory...well, that would be a good thing for the liberal cause, nicht wahr?
NO mention of Reid's comments on the front page of USA Today, which I'm glancing at in my hotel room. If the rest of the MSM lowballs this story, I'd say that validates Markos' assessment that bad-for-liberal story lines can be killed with a little attention starving. Especially if the typical MSM reporter/editor is oh so ready to let such stories die in the first place.
"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)
How would Dingy Harry (Reid) know an honorable man if he saw one?
are Useful Idiots, by which I mean the terrorists, surely know the truth is quite the opposite of Reid's disgusting statement. They know Pace and Petraeus (and our military in general) are anything but incompetent.
In stark contrast to Reid in particular and Congress in general.
You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.
None of the lefty bloggers remember Reid's words even after being reminded of them, none? Ask yourself how many times something slipped from your memory but came back after a point, statement, or question. Their responses are quite beyond implausible, they are flat out lies. If anything Reid's slander would stick out in the perverted minds of the lefties, it's what they live by and for, and a vulgar calumny of a man better than they and the rodent Reid, is to be both enjoyed & remembered, even cherished, until the next calumny comes along.
If you give these creatures the benefit of the doubt you are betting on the wrong horse.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
A man reaches the level Peter Pace has by competence, the capacity for hard work and courage. You, on the other hand, have reached your position by selling your soul.
Senator Reid, you do a great job of impersonating a man who would rather lose a war than lose an election. What do they call that where you come from? Where I come from, they call it treason.