Sarkozy for President

Of France, that is

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Read this story about the official nomination of Nicolas Sarkozy (currently France's Interior Minister) as the UMP (center-right) candidate for President. The elections will be held in two rounds, on April 22 and May 6 of this year.

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Sarkozy is now 51 years old. His father emigrated to France from Hungary and his mother is French. He's a lawyer, which together with his youth distinguishes him sharply from France's ruling class, who generally have degrees in government, from Sciences-Po or the Ecole Nationale.

He is seen as intellectually sympathetic to both Britain (specifically with Tony Blair) and with the US. Most significantly, he is seen as a "hard-liner" on immigration. As Interior Minister, he has pushed policies that seek to curb illegal immigration, but also to improve the prospects for employment of skilled youth, including Muslim youth.

There are warts, of course. He has been against our mission in Iraq (naturally), and as Finance Minister has shown protectionist instincts. Here's a profile on him from the BBC.

The competition on the Left is from Segolene Royal, the Socialist Party nominee. She's 52. Obviously she's going to be spotted a few points due to her gender advantage. Also be on the lookout for our MSM to give her the full Hillary Clinton-style royalty-in-waiting treatment. Despite her fresh face and dynamic style, she's still a doctrinaire Lefty. Think Obama in high heels. Even better, think of Chile's new President, Michelle Bachelet.

It hasn't gotten much press, but France has been reducing marginal income tax rates recently. (Here's a general story on tax reform in Western Europe.) They are now down to about 50%, with a further drop to 40% expected early this year. Needless to say, economic indicators have turned up right on cue.

The race for President in France bears watching as a new generation of leadership comes to the fore. France will always be France (adduce your favorite snarks as you see fit). But the larger story is whether the recent trend toward the Left in national politics around the globe (Angela Merkel notwithstanding) will continue.

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well by kyle8

he is center-right for a Frenchman. Which means he would be like a moderate Democrat to us, except he wants to control immigration from North Africa. I doubt that he will win election. IMO The French will continue down their present path until they no longer exist as we know them.

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Kyle

>>he is center-right for a Frenchman. Which means he would be like a moderate Democrat to us

'Left' and 'right' simply mean different things in different countries.

In the UK and US the dividing lines are normally economic and (recently) support for free trade and low taxes have been seen as being 'the right'.

On the whole, France is less open to the 'Anglo-Saxon' economic thinking, but Sarkozy, I think gets it.

In general the French left is more pro-America and pro-Israel than the French right. Sarkozy, though seems much more pro-American than others on the French right.

I suspect that Royal will win. Her sex is an advantage, especially as she is very attractive.

Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net

I suspect that Royal will win. Her sex is an advantage, especially as she is very attractive.

We'd be looking at (and, I suppose, admiring the hair of) President John Edwards.

;-)

Be not afraid

"France is less open to the 'Anglo-Saxon' economic thinking"

Just so we are clear, that does mean "France is ignorant of economics," right? Because there is no such thing as "Anglo-Saxon economic thinking" just as there is no such thing as "French gravity" or "Russian chemistry."

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I took that to mean more of a capitalist view point as opposed to the more traditional continental socialist economic view.

Isn't economic science far more subjective, with competing points of view, than compared to physics?

and try to respond, with the caveat that I'm not extremely literate in French so I may be completely wrong.

The French do often speak of the "Anglo-Saxon" way or "Anglo-Saxon capitalism," by which they generally mean the predilection for outcomes that maximize productivity and material wealth. The French don't necessarily see the point that prosperity buys freedom, with which one may then obtain the real blessings of human life. To them it's the other way around. They think we're obsessed with money.

The "socialist economic view" is not generally associated with France, being essentially German in provenance, and to the French it also has a faint and unwelcome whiff of Jewishness.

Everything comes back to social equality with the French. It's in their national motto, after all. I think that broadly speaking their social goals are political rather than economic in nature. (The whole Europe project, for example, is properly understood as a way of achieving the continental unity that eluded Charlemagne, Barbarossa, Napoleon, and Hitler. It's only secondarily about economics.)

I agree with Kyle. The French are probably too blind to elect Sarkozy, who might at least do SOMETHING about surging immigration from North Africa (mainly Algeria & Tunisia). And something about the refusal of many existing immigrants to assimilate to Western values, particularly freedom of religion, freedom of speech & expression, and equal rights for women.

France is already more than 10% Muslim. (Two and a half years ago, CBS was already reporting nearly 10%. See http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/13/60minutes/main617270.shtml.)

Also consider the persistent gap in birthrate French people and Muslims in France. This source estimates the Muslim birthrate at 3-4 times higher than the meager French rate. See http://www.meforum.org/article/337 (noting that about ONE-THIRD of children and young people in France are Muslim).

France will cease to exist as a civilized, advanced, relatively-free, nominally Christian country. It will be dominated by Muslims, first by intimidation and riots, then by an actual Muslim majority. This will take several decades, not centuries.

If we think France is an unreliable "ally" and even hostile now, wait until they're 30, 40 or 50% Muslim.

And to really brighten your day, consider that Muslim France will have nuclear weapons and a seat on the UN Security Council. But hey, no need to offend people by being "alarmist" and "racist" and "intolerant", right?

Forget Sarkozy. How about LE PEN FOR PRESIDENT.

"How about LE PEN FOR PRESIDENT"

Royal has quoted Blair (or maybe she just has referenced him) often about her economic policy and is moving her party to the right on things like the work week. I don't think she is nearly as crazy lefty as some make her out to be. I sort of hope she wins, actually.

Sarkozy = pro US Royal = anti US. N/T

In general the right in France is more anti-American than the left. Le Pen especially so. Chirac, a little less than De Gaulle (his idol), but still very much so. Mitterand was the most pro-American recent French President.

It is true that Sarkozy seems more pro-American (and British) than other leaders of the French right, but how much of that is posturing, it is hard to say.

Royal seems less crazy than her colleagues, but recall they are in opposition. She has been the favourite for some time and needs to behave in a fairly Presidential way. The others needed to rock the boat more, and appeal to more populist themes, to have any chance of upsetting her in the 'primary'.

Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net

I know well that Mitterand governed more pro American than Chirac. Of course it helped that there where about 100 Soviet divisions capable of overunning his country.

I said Sarkozy has said is was pro American for his entire political career. The modern french left is more left and anti-American than it was in the past. Pretty much like the modern American left in that way.

I do believe Sarkozy will have to run a bit from his pro American past to win this election. However, Sarkozy and Merkel would be a much better combo in Europe than the alternatives.

It seems your background analysis was NOT overly simplistic. The post I was responding to certainly was, and I hope that mine (and your response) clarified issues for some people.

Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net

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Is great, he would be great for France and America. Of course this is likely why he will lose. BTW, I doubt Royal has an "advantage" in being female, French culture is more chauvinist than our own.

 
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