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"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling

we've never been hit on that issue before? Think again. All during the Cold War any time anyone hinted that the USSR was a real threat and not just a bunch of harmless vodka-swilling guys in funny fur hats you were called a Bircher.

But to the larger issue, if the KKK supports what you are in favor of you need to seriously reconsider your own position.

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling

But to the larger issue, if the KKK supports what you are in favor of you need to seriously reconsider your own position.

The KKK opposes affirmative action and amnesty for illegal aliens, and endorsed Marilyn Musgrave based on her stands on abortion, homosexuality and immigration. Al Qaeda supports criminalizing abortion. The Taliban successfully waged a war on drugs in their country similar to our own efforts in Central America. Do any of these endorsements or common causes mean these evil groups have any meaningful commonality with American conservatives, and that you should rethink your positions? I would wager that not only would the answer of most people here be "no", but that they'd be seriously and rightfully offended at the mere suggestion.

We need to move beyond the mentality of arguing against people's policies by accusing them of common cause with truly dangerous and odious individuals. Not only is it a logical fallacy, but it's one that bites you just as hard as it bites Democrats. There are plenty of cogent arguments that can be made against the EFCA, but playing gotcha games with who's in favor of it isn't among them.

beyond being flipping stupid, also.

But given the track record that I have to consider that would be too much to ask, I suppose.

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling

There are plenty of cogent arguments that can be made against the EFCA, but playing gotcha games with who's in favor of it isn't among them.
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It's also intellectually lazy. It's as close to Godwin'ing an argument as you can get without actually invoking Hitler.

Care to try to dazzle us with your intellectually rigorous defense of EFCA? Or are you just here for the party?

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So libs, how's that Congressional Resolution to end The War™ coming along?

Care to try to dazzle us with your intellectually rigorous defense of EFCA? Or are you just here for the party?
Don't have an opinion either way. I can see pros and cons on both sides of the issue.

The issue I was addressing was the sloppy argument and obvious flame of "Who supported the bill then? The Communist Party, USA...That should tell you all you need to know about the bill." As pointed out in an earlier post "Commies" and Dems having similar views on some issues is no more damning to Dems than the KKK and Pubs having similar views or some issues should be to Pubs.

If Communist support tells one all they need to know about the bill then the KKK support should tell one all they need to know about stopping illegal immigration.

where it may be needed more. Remember, I spent three enjoyable months looking down into that cesspool and the KKK and Birch Society haven't approached the level of perfidy that was ascribed to Bush & the Republicans. Wrecking the Constitution, raving about boxcars [not filled with little piggies going to town ], a certain Bob McM. babbling about "arming ourselves",treason,[ Plame/Wilson], the whole conspiracy and repression bit. You didn't have to hint at relations to fringe groups, it was right there in Bush and his party, no links required.

Oh the memories, and how touchy we've become.

Still, I like the idea of a secret ballot, don't you?

"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville

Seriously. If you're going to use one of my comments as a springboard to spin off into an irrelevant rant, at least make a pretense of addressing the point I raised. All you've demonstrated here is that you're incapable of refuting it and are reduced to a weak attempt at tu quoque.

and too evasive. You're the one who brought up the positions of the Klan & Birch Society to counter the original post. It is quite relevant to point out that the foulness of extremist groups need not be tied to, in this case ObWi, as it generates enough of it's own. You stand on shaky ground, hardly the position from which to deliver sermons.

I rather like my post, live with it baby!

"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville

I think you could make a very convincing, factual and objective documentary about it, incorporating evidence at a number of levels, from the public statements of politicians like former Presidental candidate Dennis Kucinich and current Senator Bernie Sanders, extending to interviews with professors at any number of private and public universities, and direct interviews with students and activists themselves.

Then you could interview some of the people who blog at sites like Participate.net (where Amanda Marcotte formerly blogged) and get them on the record about their political views and their influences and connections. From there you could interview people like the ones who track non-profits and other activist groups, as ActivistCash does.

Just to close this out for now, in a widely reported story during the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York, the Ruckus Society (a self-styled "guerrila" activist group) rappeled down the Plaza Hotel in NYC to hang their Bush ---> Truth <---- banner. The Ruckus Society has received funding from, among other organizations, the Tides Foundation, which is Teresa Heinz Kerry's baby. And of course, it goes without saying that both Cindy Sheehan and Joseph Kennedy, Jr.'s varying connections and business deals with Hugo Chavez are a matter of public knowledge.

Someone could make a very controversial and convincing documentary out of all that evidence. It's literally all over the place, just waiting to get some funding and be put together. As I said, nobody needs to conduct a "witch hunt" because the witches are walking around, in plain sight.

"Violently anti-communist, and much more militaristic than the norm."

Founder and contributor to The Minority Report and Senior writer for The Hinzsight Report

go try and find any alignment between the Republican the folks you mention. HINT: you won't find any. If there were, the NYT and the Dems would have been beating it to death for months.
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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged. — J. Michael Waller

on the Communist Party USA website one can read this article:
This Battle Can be Won

It lists things that the Communist Party thinks will help it win the battle to control America. It names people that are committed to getting these things accomplished. There are over 30 Democrat Representatives and Senators listed. Most of those listed are Committee Chairpersons. The person who introduced the Card Check bill is described as;
The Education and the Workforce Committee would be chaired by George Miller (D-CA), instead of Howard P. ‘Buck’ McKeon (R-CA). Waiting to be heard is HR 1696 Employee Free Choice Act, the right to unionize; HR 1704 The Second Chance Act to assist young people after incarceration; HR 5150 Reverse the Raid on Student Aid; and HR 551 the Student Privacy Protection Act regarding turning over names of students to the military.

The Communist Party article does not list any Republicans, it feels can be counted on to help it win.

Because it isn't entirely clear whether the MSM is a wholly owned subsidiary of these groups, or the holder of these groups. Either way, if you are in public life, it is dangerous to criticize those who buy ink by supertanker.

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Enjoy what little is left of your RedState Experience™. You won't be missed, honestly.

And it's not us - it's you.

Ta.

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So libs, how's that Congressional Resolution to end The War™ coming along?

question...LKnight...You Are Not Smarter Than a 5th Grader!

" in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."
Abe Lincoln

I'll admit i'm only in eighth grade but hey atleast i don't give off [redacted] out of my mouth.

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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged. — J. Michael Waller

...breathed a sigh of relief that he managed to dodge the bullet once, not do it again. And here I was having a good time figuring out how to get every Presidential campaign to give me assurances that their particular guy wasn't the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby.

Ciao.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

Frankly, Anna's baby's paternity is a lot more important - and a lot more interesting - that this idiot.
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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged. — J. Michael Waller

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So libs, how's that Congressional Resolution to end The War™ coming along?

as well, I do think both those commenters were the same people, could two people be so like minded and comment one after the other like that, is that a sock something or other?

Well done is better than well said. —Benjamin Franklin