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I didn't actually place a *phone call*, I'm not a luddite - but I made sure my critter's office will get the message. I can't imagine that she supports it anyway.

Now, is there a magic button somewhere so that I don't have to scroll past all this?

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[F]or by the fundamental law of Nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred...

-John Locke

Some of these folks, believe it or not! -- do not have voice mail -- my Rep., Richard Neal, D-2/MA does not. So if you can't reach them tonight, make sure to call back tomorrow morning after 9 a.m. If they have local offices, remember to call there, too.

...far more important than men's lives. Haven't we re-learned that with the war in Iraq?

By the way - this is over ten times the number of dead in Iraq, just in the battle of Guam, one of many islands hopped by the Army and Marines in the Pacific in WWII. A little perspective, perhaps?

www.scottbomb.com

I have a present for you...

I'm humbled.

that's a little bit annoying, but a whole lot effective. like our own wall of names on RedState. nicely done. very nicely done. I pause a moment to pay my respects.

Are these FREAKIN' PEOPLE INSANE?????? YES, I AM G****MN WELL SHOUTING!!!

Washington DC is awash in so much money, the nutcases cannot find enough ways in which to spread around the confiscated spoils.

American Samoans don't deserve the same minimum wage as other US residents but Guam gets a pile of free money?

The Democrats need to articulate their Pacific policy.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

paid is so much more precious than money. They cheapen it by even bring up such a crude thing as money.

I have to admit I got choked up "scrolling". I am glad you placed it how you did.

"I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance"-Socrates(the real one ;)

spend our money on? At the very least something the US actually has some responsibility for?

I think I would rather them take another reccess, dumb bills like this are going to be all too frequent.

I will contact my congress critter, but he is Mr. Lockstep with Pelosi, so I won't hold my breath.

Well done, you said you were going to do it, and you did. I applaud you for this post.

I have called, my wife has called and my Mother-In-Law has called too.

However, as a registered Republican in good ole Blue New York, I am not sure it'll do any good.

Managing Editor

How disgusting that the democrats would do this.
This does, however, reveal how much the left actually values what our troops do and the price they pay: not at all.
No wonder they go crazy over 3000 deaths in four years. They have no honor, no integrity and no patriotism.

Those of us who post and blog have a love for generalizing, but you have here reduced the universals to sensible and tangible fact. These are the names that truly matter -- they should be read one-by-one into the Congressional Record.

Has anyone read the legislation on this thing. It seems the basis of this is that perhaps war claims that the US paid out for those that were in similar circumstances were not equitable as to Guam. In fact this might just correct a mistake that was done in the past. There is a Commission on thsi matter that has been existance for some time
GUAM WAR CLAIMS REVIEW COMMISSION
http://www.doi.gov/oia/Stories/warclaim/finalwarclaimrpt/Gumwarclaimsum....

I understand about honoring the men that dies to liberate that Island. Let us also remember we had control of that Iland from 1898. We had to evaculate it at the beginning of WWII. Again the sacrafice that Americans gave were great and should be honored. But we do need to remember that the Guam National Guard at this moment is in the Horm of Afriaca. A place that we should be paying attention too. They need to be honored also by us at least seeing what is behind it.

It appears to me that this was a reparationact that was in 45. That perhaps some survivors and familes need not get the same treatment as others. Again I am not sure of the facts on all of this and iwoulkd be interested to know them.

It should be noted from Wilki
"The Republican Party is a political party in Guam affiliated with the United States Republican Party. At the gubernatorial elections of the fifth of November 2002, its candidate Felix Camacho won 55.2% of popular vote and became governor. At the last legislative elections, on the second of November 2004, the party won nine out of 15 seats. Lieutenant Governor Kaleo Moylan, Attorney-General Douglas Moylan and the majority of the 28th Guam Legislature, belong to the party. Likewise, most of the mayoral positions on the island are held by Republicans."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guam_Republican_Party

Again just an idea but since we have a substantial Party influence on the Island perhaps we should try to find out the Guam Republican Parties position and why they have it.

Not trying to be difficult but I want to know more before I call my COngressman on it

JH
Louisiana

Oh yeah, we already did that, too. Twice.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

My father's name was around 1/4 inch from being on that list.

On D-day at Guam, my late father landed with the H&S Battery of the 1st Battalion, Twelfth Marines. While on the beach waiting to move up (and not wearing his helmet), a bullet skimmed over his head close enough to make his hair jump. One or more of the people with him saw it. He never felt a thing. A little lower, and Cpl. Harris would have died in 1944, not 1993.

RIP Dad. Thanks to you and your comrades for defending our country.

Ok there is more to this. This is from a liberal group but gives background I was not aware of

Guam Coalition Pushes for War Reparations

Guam coalition presses for war reparation
By Mar-Vic Cagurangan
Variety News Staff

A coalition of local organizations is petitioning the U.S. and Japanese governments to compensate the wartime victims of the Japanese Imperial Army’s atrocities out of the $6 billion that Tokyo pledged to help defray the cost of the Marines’ relocation to Guam. The Coalition Group for War Reparation wants the U.S. and Japan “to bring closure to this tragic chapter in the history of Guam” before transferring the 8,000 Marines and their 9,000 dependents from Okinawa to Guam.

“The $6 billion committed is not because Japan loves the U.S. On the contrary and what is very obvious is that Japan wants to relieve itself from the burden and problems associated with U.S. Marines occupying Japanese land,” said Dr. Jose T. Nededog, coalition organizer. “The coalition strongly feels that the Japanese government must recognize and accept responsibility for what it did to the peaceful indigenous Chamorro people of Guam during World War II and compensate them accordingly,” Nededog added.

The coalition’s petition is addressed to President Bush, members of the U.S. Congress including Guam Delegate Madeleine Bordallo, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. Attached to the petition and individual letters sent to U.S. and Japanese officials is a copy of Guam Legislature’s Resolution 127, adopted in March, asking the U.S. government to grant Guam $2.4 billion to fund the island‚s infrastructure development needs that the troops relocationentail.

The resolution also requests Bordallo “to propose full funding of Guam war reparations to be incorporated within or without the overall funding and financing of military base expansion on Guam as an appropriate opportunity to address the bring closure to this historic injustice.” Japanese troops invaded Guam on Dec. 8, 1941 and occupied the U.S. territory for 31 months, subjecting the natives to executions, torture, forced labor, forced march and internment in concentration camps.

The U.S. eventually recaptured the island, leading to the 1951 peace treaty that exonerated Japan and spared it from paying war reparations.

“It has been over 62 years since the end of World War II and where the people entitled to reparation were approximately 22,000, they now number approximately 5,000 as they are aging and dying daily. These are the victims or are surviving heirs of such victims,” the petition reads.

In a letter to Koizumi, Nededog said that despite the U.S.’s absolution of Japan, “the government of Japan is still morally and legally obligated” to compensate the people of Guam for the sufferings that they had gone through.

In a separate letter to Rumsfeld, Nededog said resolving the long overdue war reparation “can only bring better relationship between the people of Japan, the U.S. military forces and the people of Guam.”

Pending in the U.S. Congress is Bordallo’s H.R. 1595, the Guam World War II Loyalty Recognition Act, which would provide restitution to the people of Guam who suffered atrocities -- including personal injury, forced labor, forced marches, internment, and death -- during the Japanese occupation of Guam. If passed into law, the bill would grant $25,000 each for Guamanians (or their heirs) who were killed during the Japanese occupation and up to $15,000 for those who were seriously injured.

posted by Sahuma Minagahet at 11:21 PM | 0 comments

http://decolonizeguam.blogspot.com/2006/09/guam-coalition-pushes-for-war...

So the money might actually be Japanese money if this is correct

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/d7ca6274-d930-11da-8b06-0000779e2340.html

The above link is the money that the Japanese are giving to move the base.

It appears that Harry Truman signed a bill that said Japan did not have to pay reparations. The story of what the people of Guam under Japanese occupation went through can be found at Wilki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guam

Five million of this goes to memeorlize this tragic event. As a conservative I support that. It also appears that many people of Guam were not thrilled that the Japanese got off scot free and did not have to pay them. I think I can see their point. This appears to be money that is coming out of the billions hat Japan in a way is giving. I think this is an honorable solution to this unless anyone can convince me otherwise. This also appears to have bi partisan support.

HEre is the Hawaii Editoral
http://starbulletin.com/2004/06/10/news/story6.html

Hey Erick have you seen this

I'm calling BS at Erick and Jeff Emanuel over at Red state
http://crapomatic.blogspot.com/2007/05/im-calling-bs_08.html

Erick,

This long over due legislation would be welcomed as a great honor to the men you have taken the time and care to valorize above. Believe it - their sacrifices are the very fabric of Guam's culture.

Guam was caught in the switches between MacArthur's Consular
ambitions over Post-War Japan and the realities of the Cold War.

The People of Guam are the most loyal and pro-miltary Americans; always faithful and always willing to sacrifice their lives for our country - without hesitation. That is our problem - we mainland Americans -that the hesiation has been to recognize Guam's loyalty.

Whoever decided to policy these folks into reparations lotto ticket scammers should do much more study of Guam's history and commitment. The reparations broadbrush was unworthy of what is best about America - our abilty to recognize and give tribute to patriotism. Guam is long over due such a small nod from all Americans.

To date this tiny island of America is in double figures for KIA in the War on Terror and in Vietnam lead the nation in per capita loss of life (74 KIA on the Wall). Guam stands in the sights of North Korean nuclear missles and is pro-active in helping fight terroism out of the P.I.s. At this moment the Americans of Guam are making room for 8,000 more Marines evicted from Okinawa as well as the island's expansion as America's most forward and strategic base in the Pacific Rim.

These Americans are owed more than bumper sticker rhetoric and history. We are better than this.

Sincerely,

Mr. Pat Hickey
Author -The Chorito Hog Leg, Book One: A Novel of Guam in Time of War

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2007/03/two-part-historical-novel-fuses-g...

Pat Hickey

Eric, thank you for your kind pronouncement…” These are the heroes of Guam.”
But, why what follows…?

First let’s keep it measured well… so we all, can say that our honor and respect for these names as listed therein above and made a display are as intended, held at all cost to be both appropriate and significant; not allowing even me to suggest that the too broad presentation without guarded qualification, may totally be unfair as an over-kill guilt assigning-misrepresentation and carelessness, specifically assigned to a unique regional American historic event, discipline and lot, at any juncture of an undeserving (blog) American Positive Political Project Process.

The induced reaction with the gullibility that it invited and demonstrated, suggestively void of validation, dishonor the very use of a hollowed national carnage.

Prove me wrong; without refinement does not the list, suggests that all the listed heroic assets, died in Guam and totally for the Guamanians’ selfish behave? There is just no justice in having to be asked, to take that as just-due; not a thing more and appearing yet ungratefully hoggish and dissatisfied.

Please, my back hurts just trying to assess if I, had missed anything; – parity / balance, et al perhaps?

The list’s application - let it be more appropriately judicious. Where is sensitivity?

I was very touched by the cost. I saw the very initial process of giving these heroes who died and were buried in Guam, their claim for their no less extreme contribution to what we all valued. I interacted with some of the coolest people (GI’s) receiving medical and convalescent attention at the Naval Hospital – my show case of what I wanted to be like in contribution, value and character when I get some growing.

We from Guam would, as continually made an historical given, present our personal contribution pound for pound – family for family – inch for inch - incident to incident – type for type – here, there or any where per capita against any American measure and simply shine in pride and for honor of like American welcome willing.

Shiiiiii….the symphony is maturing; the debut of minor interruptions to silence says, “Many are reviewing in study”; a dust of human events, shall yet be explained; accountably adjudicated and applied as only alarm; and at last the American magnificence with collective attention and respect specifics, may yet be saved by real and present American practitioners and enthusiasts for another of the new and to be kept, successive “children to leadership” generation! Jest a suggestion…. So come with your marbles and engage!