Petraeus: Overdressed for the "Party"
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I watched the run up to the Petraeus testimony. I watched the Congressional court jesters and their minions, huffing their chests and insisting they understood the importance of where they were and what they were about to undertake, make complete and amateurish fools of themselves. And they showed the entire world why they (and we, right along with them sadly) are perceived as we are. OBL really DID have a decent analysis of our democracy last week...at least in its current form.
Cometh Petraeus, considered a liar and traitor before he sat down. Pre-determined as a book fixin' Bush-sock-puppeteer, despite having been confirmed by these morons not so very long ago, Petraeus has shown the world a clear contrast between polish, discipline, readiness, and strength under fire and these characters who call themselves Congressmen.
The man among men sat with medals aplenty. Those who would be men didn't hold a candle to him.
I didn't see all the testimony, and I write this before having studied and analyzed the transcripts...of his OR Crocker's testimony. I have every bit as much right to make my own pre-conclusions as those who stood in judgment before THEY had likewise heard these mens' words.
This much I know-Congressional pre-disposition to squander America for the sole purpose of claiming control over what's left of it when they've had their way is the darkest moment in an otherwise shining history of a great nation.
The "Party"-determined to make sure we know who's boss-shouldn't have even been allowed in the room. General Petraeus continues to be head and heel above the clowns he has to lower himself to testify before, and explain that which they continue to be incapable of comprehending.
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" in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."
Abe Lincoln
"This much I know-Congressional pre-disposition to squander America for the sole purpose of claiming control over what's left of it when they've had their way is the darkest moment in an otherwise shining history of a great nation."
It may be bad, but I would say their have been darker moments. What about the civil war and slavery. This may be a dark moment, but saing it's darkest seems to be taking it a little too far.
We are watching the spectacle of one of the two major political parties in the US do everything in their power to slander a US Army General who they voted to put in charge of our forces in the field. And the reason? To insure that they can go before the media and declare the war that they voted to fight "lost". And the reason? The hope of accumulating more political power in the US so they can continue to surrender our national soveriegnty to international organizations like the UN.
Not too far at all.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
I think the country town apart during the civil war ( I don't know what the exact figures were, but I think there were severeal hundred times the causualities as what we he had both in in 9/11 and in the Iraq war.) Therefore, I would still say that calling this the darkest moment seems like hyperbole.
And the country was torn apart.
This little war has so far seen about 3,500 KIA and the Democrats are working their hearts out to tear the country apart. That's why this is a bigger deal. This is nothing but politics at it's cheapest.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
a dark time, I believe that Haystack's point was that this moment stands before the whole world as a moment of dishonor, as well as an invitation to those who would use this show of weakness to recuit more terrorists to kill us. More to the point, to renew attacks that will kill our soldiers in the field. This is beyond disgusting.
had I said "one of the darkest" would you THEN have focused on the point of this commentary...that America's Congress is tearing the country apart at the seams over power and control and personal accomplishment and self-aggrandizement at a time when the world view of us will either make us MORE prone to be challenged by those with a few good martyrs and some dirty or chemical or nuclear contraption because they have been led to believe they could actually pull it off? Or, if we could end all this Congressional silliness, perhaps find a way to be LESS prone to it?
sheesh
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
If you had said that this was one of the darkest moments in history I don't know that I would have commented. I didn't have a big disagreement about what the democrats are doing. I just criticized what seemed like pesismistic rhetorical overkill. Things have been worse, or so it seems to me. It seems that to make any criticism of what you say somehow makes me arrogant.
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
Anyway I know I may have picked a small point to quibble over in light of what your overall point was, and I do apologize for any nit - pickiness. I was just pointing out an overdose of pessimism.
now?
...when they see me they'll say, "There goes Loren Wallace,
the greatest thing to ever climb into a race car."
we're square. I could have picked a less hyperbolic title as well...thanks.
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
Caffiene up, boy!
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
here
...when they see me they'll say, "There goes Loren Wallace,
the greatest thing to ever climb into a race car."
...when they see me they'll say, "There goes Loren Wallace,
the greatest thing to ever climb into a race car."
that was like finding a needle in a....
trailing off...
never mind
:-)
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
is the waning days of Vietnam. The Democrats in the US during the Civil War were defeatist and some were openly disloyal, but they never achieved governing power. Further, the US has the courage to deal decisively with the more outrageous actors, delicate legal sensibilities be Damned. A certain amount of spoken and written dissent was tolerated, but any overt act very quickly made you a guest of the US Army, quite often in the same luxury accommodations afforded Confederate "enemy combatants." Drum-head courts martial were not uncommon and some of the louder and more prominent, e.g., Valandingham of Ohio, were simply taken to the Confederate lines and kicked across. Of course, the CS didn't want him either; they had little appreciation for agitation and open disloyalty either.
In Vino Veritas
You said, Further, the US has the courage to deal decisively when I think you meant had.
Unfortunately.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
over Democrats acting as traitors. If 500,000 people die becuase of what the Dems are doing than that would mean that the Democrats caused there to be just as dark a time as what there was in the Civil War. But we aren't there yet. The fact that perhaps during the Civil War the right to protest had to be curtailed only goes further to prove my point that things aren't as bad now. Things may get bad but I don't think we are there yet.
of what the Dems are doing..." is a real possibility, Populist. Not only overseas, but right here. They give the very real impression to our enemies that we are weak idiots who can't stay the course for more than a few months, and who can't stand together as a united people for victory EVER. Nuclear, bio, or chem--just a matter of time. And the Dems enabled it by behaving as they have and all in the name of personal power. There are no words for them that would be allowed here. Maybe none low enough anywhere.
deaths. Every person killed by the Communists in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos after the fall of South Vietnam should be laid directly on the American Democrats. That is in addition to the names of those brave Americans, their Allies, and the Vietnamese themselves who died as a direct result of the encouragement that John Kerry, Jane Fonda, Ramsey Clark, Walter Cronkite and the rest of the American Left /Democrats provided the North Vietnamese, before we left the battlefields.
Than add the numbers from Iraq where day after day, Americans and our Allies and the Iraqi citizens are destroyed by terrorist who really seem to be believe if they hold out long enough, their American leftest supporters are going to defeat America for them.
If one wants to go even farther, look at the millions of innocent American children killed by abortions each year.
including and especially that last statement.
It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy Democrats?
I simply cannot believe that anywhere near a majority of the American people will believe these congressional idiots. If we, as a nation, are so far gone down the road of hate,appeasement and surrender, then this is, indeed, a sad day.
The thing most missing in all this, is the old-fashioned word that these folks wouldn't recognize if it hit them in their rear, but is personified by Gen Petraeus........HONOR !!
CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS. Read the NYT and the WaPo. Listen to and read the commentary that will follow.
I personally don't hold out much hope for the American people seeing or hearing the facts.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
Petraeus should say he is only available after normal working hours(he has a job to do) and do any reporting at night during prime time. This will let more people view it directly and not get the spun regurgitation from the MSM.
Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you. Washington Elected Elite
John F Kennedy, January 20, 1961
" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
This much we pledge—and more.
To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United, there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided, there is little we can do—for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder."
And it is deep -- Political gain at the expense of your country is unspeakably despicable.
...took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Could the pell-mell rush to surrender to a foe that has displayed every intention of destroying this Nation be construed as protecting and defending that Constitution, keeping especially the history and lessons from the prelude to WWII in perspective?
Would aiding and abetting and encouraging the Nation's sworn enemy to redouble his efforts to destroy us be a criminal offense against this Nation by the same extension as Jodl's and Von Rundstat's simple signing of the military orders allowing free reign to the 'Einsatzgruppen' operations in Eastern Europe in the USSR was a criminal offense?
The old riddle, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?, is the primary reason the Democrats get away with what they do.
There is no outrage because no one has seen anything to get outraged about.
Most Americans still get their news from the liberal gate-keepers: newspapers and network news.
Conservatives are slowly making inroads to the mainstream media with talk radio, the internet, and cable (Fox) news, but unfortunately, a large majority of Americans still get their news from the media dinosaurs who have no interest in reporting the news and instead see themselves as political activists who want to promote an agenda.
If you could bring down the Mainstream Media, the Democrats would be finished as a Party.
"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich. "
William F. Buckley, Jr.
I saw no other "men". Just a bunch of mice and other members of that species. Oh, and I also saw the face of the modern Democrat Party in the gallery (and on the way out).
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
Contributor to The Minority Report
I've been wondering why there isn't a Democrat response press conference to the Petraeus report and realized they already had it a few days ago.
Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you. Washington Elected Elite
I thought he made his points respectfully and responsibly. There are responsible ways to make your case against the war, and I thought he did it. It's a shame the public discourse isn't at that level of personal restraint.
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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.
SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.
This day will be forever marked as "Black Day For A Once Proud Political Party". History will forever tell the story of a polictical party that destroyed itself.
My father is turning over in his grave. He gave so much to the party of FDR (MR. ROOSEVELT IS GOING TO SAVE US ALL). My dad stormed Normandy, my dad was wounded in the Black Forest, my dad was not an educated man but loved this country. I for one, feel no pity. God be rid of them and that is truly sad. I will never betray this country - not for man nor money or political gain.
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