Some thoughts for our esteemed visitors regarding the passage of the FISA bill.

And may I offer my condolences for Senator Obama's sudden attack of laryngitis?

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Good afternoon, our colleagues from the Other Side. As you no doubt know by now, the FISA bill has passed the House (293-129-13), complete with sufficient protections for the telecom industry so as to prevent precisely the sort of discovery expeditions that so many of you have so eagerly dreamed of. The Senate will in due course ratify it; the President will of course sign it; and it will not be repealed, even if "your" party somehow manages to win the Presidential election in November.

But I would like to offer these words of comfort. When you look back on your quest to fight this bill, I want you to appreciate the amazing amount of work that you spent on the issue. You called. You networked. You wrote letters and blog posts. You contributed to opposition groups. You reached out, and found people just like you, and you banded together to fight. And you kept going, and calling, and struggling, and you put your time, your money, and every atom of your being on the line. For some of you, this was your finest moment. You fought for this. You fought so hard for this.

Oddly enough, I didn't do any of that, but I won anyway. That's because you suck, and I don't.

Well, I didn't say that they were words of comfort for you.

Moe Lane

PS: Now go give money to Barack Obama. That's all you're good for, anyway.


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"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

They are just incredibly easily used.

If they sucked they wouldn't be worth the effort of tapping for funds.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Gee, Moe, how do yopu really feel?

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Now THAT is what I call the proper etiquette of addressing the dimwits. They live in their own reality. They are convinced that is the real world. The way you put it. The way you stuck it. The way you do the things you do. Go Moe!

Oh yeah... Kossacks..... metaphores don't sink in do they?

Do you need a tissue, or a baby wipe? Perhaps a bottle?

Here

:->>>>>>>>>

I just went to dailykooks, they are apparently in meltdown status. Tomorrow will be their grieving period. The day after tomorrow will be time for them to donate to bambi land.

When not exhalting the slow-witted minions to donate $10 to the latest gay marriage advocate.

I've seen them so agitated at Obama. None of the bad personal associations bothered them in the slightest, and let's face it, we shouldn't expect them to think poorly of a guy who associates with domestic terrorists and racist demagogues. Anyways, they excused him throwing the Wrights of the world under the bus, but this time he did it with something they hold sacred and boy are they letting him have it. The rhetoric is reminiscent of how we sound when McCain cozies up to his inner open-border advocate. It's probably hoping for a lot, but still, I'm hoping some of them stay pissed off like some of us are staying pissed off at McCain. I heard an awful lot of "well I might vote for him now but I ain't donating to him" which describes about how I feel towards our guy.

My prediction is if he gets wind of this he'll pull a double-reverse like he did with AIPAC. He'll come out tooth-and-nail against it instead of just issuing a bland statement. With AIPAC at least he was just talking. With this, if he lets it pass and doesn't fight for it this is real actual damage to their agenda.

Let me first say: awesome. Let me also say I swear Bush must have photos of the dems in Congress. How he manages to get whatever he wants from them I do not know. Is it just having the will to play chicken and knowing when most Americans are on his side? Is it voodoo? I mean I can't believe the dems haven't convinced themselves to vote against a war funding bill at some point; they're all (wrongly) convinced that a majority of American wants us to pull out of Iraq.

But everytime I read about this my eyes gazed over. Can someone briefly explain to me what this act does to the intarnetz and what was it the dumchkins were so afraid of?

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

As an admitted lurker who just got an account to try and engage in a conversation to understand this issue, why is the act of discovery through the public court system not necessary in regard to these telcos? If they acted within existing laws, wouldn't they be protected anyway? And if they laws were inadequate, isn't it the function of congress to pass a law to correct these inadequacies?

Please flame me if I am being ignorant, but I just don't understand how immunity without knowing what is being immunized is proper.

That should get you started.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

I understand the function of FISA, I've read the Fisa Q&A on this site, I've seen the uproar over at the big orange site, but I still don't get the "retroactive immunity is required" mantra. To get to the heart of my concern, why is it not okay for the courts to review if an order/directive from the executive branch to a private company is constitutional, since this bill looks like it will allow the DA to rubber stamp approval for what has happened in the past.

That should get you started.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Am I just being naive, or am I being treated as a troll?

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Dissenters will be banned and IP blacklisted such that you can't even access the site. You'd best be moving along.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

The day these guys are having, it's the least I can do.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

A district court hearing a case against a provider will review, under a "substantial evidence" standard, the Attorney General's certification that certain providers either did or did not assist with the TSP. In making that determination, the court will have the opportunity to examine the highly classified letters to the providers that indicated the President had authorized the activity and that it had been determined to be lawful. The plaintiffs and defendants will have the opportunity to file public briefs on legal issues and the court should include in any public order a description of the legal standards that govern the order.

(And I apologize if this isn't formatted correctly) This is where I am confused, does this mean that the courts are reviewing whether the president had "determined the activity to be lawful," or whether the legal assurance from the president is lawful?

That should get you started.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

...I would start by learning to use capitalization of the p in President....otherwise you come off as nothing more than a concern troll.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Does this mean that the courts are reviewing whether the President had "determined the activity to be lawful," or whether the legal assurance from the President is lawful?

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

It appears that asking a question in this thread is a bit like wrestling with a pig: after a while, you've got nothing but mud on your face and you realize the pig enjoys it.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

I would stand in line to go see it twice. No muted LOL here, I truly did laugh out loud. Kudos Moe!
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Thou art the Great Cat, the avenger of the Gods, and the judge of words...-Inscription on the Royal Tombs at Thebes

So the point of your post should be summed up with:

"Moe Lane 2012: Winning Hearts and Minds while sitting on his ass"

"Moe Lane 2012: My Post > Your Phail"

"Moe Lane 2012: Kos this ya Bastards"

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Oh Poops, sorry bout that. Thats why we need an edit function, that and cause it'll be funny to see all the lefty trolls go back and change their messages after they get owned on.

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Moe,

This is excellent tauntage. My compliments.

And YES, it makes me feel quite good to know the nutroots are going nuts. HA-HA-HA!!!

 
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