The Senate GOP Needs Testicular Fortitude

What do the Senate GOP and Osama Bin Laden have in common? They both cave.

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The Senate Republicans have a long time pattern: when they are close to victory, they stop advancing.

It has happened again and again. It is not even the fault of the GOP leader. It is a problem that goes through the core of the Senate GOP and has for years.

At a moment when the American public is massively shifting to the position of "Drill Here. Drill Now." the Senate Republicans have ditched a plan to push forward on ANWR.

The Senate GOP should fight on this issue. They can win it. And they should.

But they will not because when Democrats come at them with a punch, the Senate GOP slaps back and then folds. Again and again and again and again.

Perhaps we should add these to the Senate GOP diet. They need a supplement.


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An editorial might say something not so nice about them.....

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I'm afraid the cave on ANWR is inspired by not wanting to step McCains toes in the middle of the election fight...Not that Senate Republicans need a reason so fold like a house of cards...What worries me is that there will be many more surrenders on issues such as amnesty, Cap & Trade Legeslation, Anti AGW legislation and other issues where our nominee enjoys maverick status.


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Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

That this had to do with lining up behind McCain's position, but I'm led to believe the GOP naively thinks it has a real deal with the Democrats if they don't push on ANWR.

Fight On!

Isn't that like a deal with the devil?

LOL

:>)


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Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

a bargain with a Democrat is no bargain at all.

In Vino Veritas


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Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

That is what happens when we start saying that it is ok to cave on principle for the sake of the win.

Why bother having principles if we refuse to stand by them?

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Democrats are ten times worse.

Stop comparing Republicans to Democrats to justify a lack of backbone on issues that ought to define conservatives.

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Say it over and over!!!!

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http://meandmyilk.blogtownhall.com/

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

He opposes ANWR drilling, and pushing the issue right now would either require him to 1) vote for it after he voted against it, or 2) antagonize the base by holding to his prior position.

If you can already have sufficient oil from not so environmentally critical areas for oil drilling, you can save ANWR. Everyone of us, including Governor Palin, will sure preserve ANWR if oil is low. Alaska has other resources and potentials besides oil that can deliver economic wealth to its people.

If at the end of the road, we find that what we're doing is not enough... SURELY ANWR will become a fair game.

That's his policy. Nuclear power + battery-powered cars also gives a good match.

In conclusion, our Old Pal McCain is thinking like an Economist. We should be happy!

Purchasing our oil from our enemies while keeping our own resources off limits is thinking like an Economist?

Whatever you say


http://meandmyilk.blogtownhall.com/

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

there's nothing even environmentally special. It is just an administrative designation of some federally owned land in Alaska. I assure you that you would not know from the terrain, flora, or fauna, what little there is, that you had stepped across the line on the map that separates the State owned Prudhoe Bay oil province from the neighboring ANWR.

In Vino Veritas

I say -- and I'm using the vernacular here, but I'm serious -- I say SCREW all of this "new tone" talk. This party is backed up at gunpoint against one of the biggest, baddest and scariest walls it's ever been up against and if it doesn't start fighting now, it never will.

And that means all of us. We need to pulverize these people.

they wouldn't want to put their "friend" Sen. McCain in a tough position. You do understand, don't you?

In Vino Veritas

The longer this goes on the more convinced I am that I still haven't personally invested enough of my own energy in first of all comprehending and then fighting for the principles I sit here every day and defend. Or even worse, that I turn away from defending because I lapse into a kind of maudlin version of Stockholm Syndrome.

But I'm at the turning point on that, and John McCain had better be also, because the Democrats aren't looking to take prisoners in this election. Everything I've seen so far leads me to believe that they want it all, and they believe they can have it all, and they think they should have fought even harder than they did in 2006.

For the past six years now I've tried to really learn what it means to be a Republican -- and look at some of the examples I've had from the people we so were so flattering to ourselves for having put into power. We don't need "comity" for the sake of soothing everyone's frayed nerves and pretending that we're going to get along well. This country will get worse with a bunch of scatterbrained Republicans all trying to hang out a shingle for their own "brand" because they're not even principled as a group any more, no discipline, no center. What are the senior Republican strategists who are advising this kind of "comity" thinking?

Can someone point out for me, or link me to a cogent internal strategy document that lays out the theory behind these "efforts to achieve comity" in electoral vote terms, or congressional seat terms, or philosophical terms, or in terms of political economy, or comparative theory of government, or even voodoo and witchcraft? I'm serious, if someone with the wet cells has a theory for what the Senate is doing that can be accurately described in terms of voodoo and witchcraft, I'll read it and think about it, as long as it's the slightest bit consistent. I need information. Someone send me a paper that someone has written or a strategy document that explains this -- because otherwise it just makes no.....@*$@#(.....sense to me. The Republican party is bruised, battered, disorganized, disgruntled and bleeding to death and we're looking for "comity?" We should be looking for tourniquets and bandaging ourselves up and reloading the powder as fast as we can.

Enough for today. I'm rambling now. It's been a long day. I've been up since 5:00 this morning, and I'm weary of thinking for this turn of the calendar. But until I read a good 30-50 page document that describes what the heck these people are doing, and why they're doing it, I'm going to be very worried. Or are they just making all this up as they go along? That's a heck of a way to run a party in one of the most serious elections in recent memory, and I don't get it.

Are there any Conservative/Republican/Kinda academics who have written anything recently that might help me understand why the Republicans (who seem to recognize that their brand is in tatters) are doing these things (which I don't see as helping it)?

As Ben Stein once said famously...

"Anyone??? Anyone???"

Does anyone have a clue about what's happening? I don't mean this glibly or (just) because I'm overtired and a little incoherent myself. I'm serious. I may not be Henry Kissinger material but I can read an academic paper. Someone help me out here.

You read the usual stuff: NR, The Standard, catch Heritage Papers, a few blogs and you sorta get the drift of things, but that's about it. The real problem is that there's no there there; Republican has come to mean Not Democrat and that's about it.

The Democrats, at leat at the operative and officeholder level, know what they want in general terms. Republicans not only don't know what they want, they can't even agree on what they don't want.

Frankly, most officeholders - of either party - could not keep up with the average discussion on this board. Some are smart people, some are more or less intelligent, and many are just plain stupid and superficial, but they have good hair and a winning smile.

At the federal level, bill drafting is so undisciplined and bills so large that not even a very involved and intelligent person could possibly understand everything in most bills. It all breaks down on who's bill it is and who's supporting it, the real meaning of that comity thing.

I once drafted a comprehensive technical bill for the Majority in our State Senate and was carrying the chit sheet for it. When it came to the floor for first reading, the Minority dumped a bunch of amendments on us at the last minute - rules don't apply to Democrats. The Senate President called a recess for a caucus to consider the amendments and asked me to come into the caucus to go thru the amendments with them - a very uncommon thing; caucus is almost always members only. One Senator saw me come in and asked the President what I was doing there and she replied that since it was such technical stuff, I was going to go through the amendments with them. He replied that he didn't need to know what was in them, he could read the sponsor's name and that was enough for him. It works that way more often than not.

Most of the elected officials and high-level appointees I've known over the years were dumb as stumps but charming and very good at self-promotion; that seems to be what it takes. They don't know what a philosophical principle is and they certainly don't know how to evaluate legislation and programs through the lens of a philosophical principle. Legislative bodies are worse than the Executive in terms of being "90/10" organizations; ten percent of the people do ninety percent of the work. Staff and leadership do ALL the work other than "constituent service," which usually takes the form of making sure that something some supporter wants is in or out of some bill - a bill the member doesn't have a clue about. That's how they get themselves in trouble; putting stuff in bills that won't pass the red face test and not even having realized it.

Bact to the original post; they don't really need either brains or testicles.

In Vino Veritas

I have a quibble with just one statement:

Republicans not only don't know what they want, they can't even agree on what they don't want.

I think a distinction must be made between the Republican Rank and File as opposed to Republican Leadership...I think most Republicans not sheltered in the echo chamber in Washington know what we want and we're screaming it at them as loudly as we can...Leadership just can't, won't or have now clue how to listen!


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Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

“…but they have good hair…”

I take it you have never seen tricky Ricky Boucher (he is having a bad hair life), or the now infamous James Traficant. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Traficant

http://www.boucher.house.gov/

Please sign Newt's Drilling Petition. I have included a link to it in the below. Thank you.

http://www.americansolutions.com/

but it is still better to have "executive hair" than to have a brain underneath that hair if you want to get ahead in government and politics.

In Vino Veritas

I'm beginning to think that many of these guys really agree with Ted Kennedy at heart but don't dare show their true colors or their voters would throw them out on their ears...Deep down they know Teddy's been right all these years and they're embarrassed that they've had to mingle with the Conseravtive riff raff that put them in office.

You'll see mentioning this in post after post from here on but we need to get our act in order and get rid of as many of these asses as possible this year so we can retake the House and Senate in 2010 because we're coming up on the Census and the reapportionment that the Congress after next will be dealing with...

One of two things need to happen...either the party tells Congressmen and Senators that they're ok to state Conservative principles regardless of where the maverick is so they can save themselves...or we need to just let McCain's negative coat tales drag them out to sea this year so we can restock the coral with new conservative mavericks in 2010!


http://meandmyilk.blogtownhall.com/

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

I remember well when W went to Washington with hopes of bringing a 'new tone' to American politics-he failed. He failed, not because he wasn't sincere and committed to the task, he failed because he learned that compromising with liberals is like negotiating with the PLO. The more you give the more they take and in the end they despise you for it. Like the Palestinian terrorists that inspire them, today's liberals are not interesting in working together to find a solution to the many pressing problems facing our nation, they have no desire to 'live' peacefully alongside their conservative counterparts, their one and only goal is to destroy the enemy at all costs-even if it means harming the nation because when the nation suffers they can blame the conservatives.
This 'new tone' utopian dream must be abandoned and liberals must be recognized for what they really are-enemies of the State...er, States. Until liberals inside the beltway and on our airways and in our newspapers begin to work for a 'new tone' I say they must be resisted and defeated before we lose all of the precious freedoms so many have fought and died to secure.
As Israel and Palestine will never peacefully co-exist, neither will conservatives and liberals. It's time to abandon the failed peace process regarding our liberal representatives and vote them out of power at every opportunity.

The more I think about it, the more apropos it seems... Dems and PLO...

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We need to stop fighting like we did in Korea and Vietnam by trying to hold the enemy to the 48th parallel or some other line on a map and realize we are in a fight for our very survival....nothing will suffice but the total destruction of the enemy and his evil designs....As much as I despise Sherman for his butchery and tactics of bringing war on Women and Children...it's long past time that Republicans adopt the Sherman tactics of total war...The is no road too difficult or tactic too underhanded and no other consideration that trumps the defeat and annihilation of the Democrats and their socialist ideas!!!!


http://meandmyilk.blogtownhall.com/

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

Ohh...and compromise for the sake of "Comity", a "New Tone", a ""Kinder Gentler Nation" or "a respectful Campaign doesn't fit with the concept of total war!


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Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

...when we had the majority in Congress, we allowed the Dems to obstruct and obstruct. How many times did the Republicans attempt to "compromise" and what did it get us? If elected Republicans had held on to conservative principles and legislated with those principles at the forefront, perhaps we wouldn't be in this mess. "Bi-partisanship" hasn't seemed to work. If the Dems would show even a small interest in doing what is best for the country, instead of doing whatever they can to either defeat Republicans or damage the Bush administration, perhaps then we could again talk about bipartisanship. Until then, why? They seem determined to sacrifice the country to win the next election.

Linda D, Henderson NV

The issue also would hurt Coleman, Smith, Collins, and perhaps others as well.

Though it would help many Republicans on the other side.

It seems the republican party (or at least Sen Warner) has other ideas though, such as return to the 55mph speed limit. I really hope one day the republican party returns to its roots of liberty and limited government. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening any time soon.

- left-wing, right-wing, in-tandem, shadowy conspiracy ring leader

Here
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080703/ap_on_go_co/warner_speed_limit

p.s. does anyone know how to post a hyperlink on this forum without the redstate code inserting a <br /> in the middle of the url?
- left-wing, right-wing, in-tandem, shadowy conspiracy ring leader

from either party would grow a pair, stand up and make the blanket statement that there aint gonna be no 55mph so shut the hell up you wussie East coast totalitarians!

Nip this craziness in the bud.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

before the price goes up. You know the weenies are going to do this.

In Vino Veritas

Please sign Newt's Drilling Petition. I have included a link to it in the below. Thank you.

http://www.americansolutions.com/

That's probably why nobody does it.

In Vino Veritas

Perhaps we should think about making murder and robbery illegal too. :>)
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I don't know about here in Oklahoma, but for a while in MN, those were illegal.

Turns out, the government didn't like that we could figure out where the cops were.

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two testicles in the entire Washington corps of the GOP, Senate, House and WH combined.

But they are well positioned to stand for nothing, and theyo that well.
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I think the Congressional Cafeteria served up Rocky Mountain Oysters for the Dummycrats after 2006 taken from the Republicans and the grill is heating up for 2008!

:>)


http://meandmyilk.blogtownhall.com/

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

There's no question the Senate Republicans have behaved almost as badly as the Democrats this Congress. www.notwrightforamerica.com has theorized that many of these pork barreling congressional Republicans would actually prefer an Obama presidency because they could go on spending, which is all they seem to want to do anyway.

There's no question the Senate Republicans have behaved almost as badly as the Democrats this Congress. www.notwrightforamerica.com has theorized that many of these pork barreling congressional Republicans would actually prefer an Obama presidency because they could go on spending, which is all they seem to want to do anyway.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
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There's no question the Senate Republicans have behaved almost as badly as the Democrats this Congress.

www.notwrightforamerica.com has theorized that many of these pork barreling congressional Republicans would actually prefer an Obama presidency because they could go on spending, which is all they seem to want to do anyway.

These are the traitors and the major enemy of the Party.

But I will vote for McCain this November.

Republicans? McCain? The Congressional Republicans are a disgrace, and it gets worse every day. They could easily be shoving this "oil problem" down the Dems throats, and yet, they act like a bunch of altar boys in a sactuary. They're so concerned for their own survival, there's no longer a cohesive and coherent Republican voice on any issue - it's every man and woman for themselves, especially with their earmark games. And as a result of their lack of teticular fortitude and abandoning core Republican values, we, the electorate, will be saddled with a Democrat Congress and Presidency for the next eight years. Buckle your seatbelts, it's going to get ugly. Yep, I'm really happy with that prospect; and even happier that John McCain resurrected himself last summer to allow us a formidable opponent for the wunderkind. We do have an oppontent for the wunderkind, don't we? What the hell, the convention is seven weeks or so away, McCain has plenty of time to get his organization and strategy in sync to take on the wunderkind.

What the hell, the convention is seven weeks or so away, McCain has plenty of time to get his organization and strategy in sync to take on the wunderkind.

Hasn't he already had 5 months to get his act in line? I think it's too late to wonder if he'll ever get it right...

Yep, I'm really happy with that prospect; and even happier that John McCain resurrected himself last summer to allow us a formidable opponent for the wunderkind. We do have an oppontent for the wunderkind, don't we?

My Sarcasm detector is off lately...you were being sarcastic with that....right?


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Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

Erick, I understand why you are posting this topic but sadly you are wasting your time.

The GOP doesn't care about winning. They haven't for nearly two decades. They just want to be Democrat-lite and be included in the right D.C. social circles.

That's why we surrendered on judges in 2005 when we could have won. The 'Gang of 14' was nothing but a capitulation and a politically disasterous one. Same thing with the 2006 McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Bill. Same pattern as before. What about making the Bush tax cuts permanent? They could have easily done it when they held the majority, but didn't because they didn't want to make the wittle Democwats aw mad.
Each time they knew what their supporters wanted, did the exact opposite and then patted themselves on the back because they could compromise or be the nicer guy or some BS along those lines.

They are gutless and they don't care. The whole bunch with the exception of a precious few are cowards and liars. I'll give Colburn, Cornyn, Cochran, Sessions, DeMint, Hatch and a few others some props, but they are too few and the elitists are too many.

Now they distance themselves from President Bush, who might not have a 30% approval rating were it not for his loyal party who ran from him like scared kittens instead of defending him.
Ironically, if I were Bush I wouldn't want these yellow-livered, spineless jellyfish on my side.

This party deserves to loose everything in the next election and they are making sure that it happens.

One last idea, why not just replace the traditional Elephant symbol of the GOP with a more accurate symbol. I've got several suggestions. What do you guys and girls think?

1) The GOP Jellyfish? (no, jellyfish are actually lively)
2) The GOP Door Mats? (no, door mats are useful)
3) The GOP Worms? (no, worms actually serve a purpose)

Got it!

4) The GOP Weathervanes (they swing whatever way the wind blows with no direction of their own)

When you are the majority Party, you are accountable.

When you are the minority party, you can just sail by without expectations.

Frankly, I don't know how the GOOD and Conservative Congressmen we have (including those from my home state of Oklahoma.) put up with the apathy.

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conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

Heh. They must.

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....selling targets with RINO faces superimposed on them...lol

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

Heh. I don't know that I'd go along with making targets with faces of sitting congressmen.

How about if we just make targets in the shape and look of a Rhino's head and call them RINO-Targets?

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conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

Of all the issues to fight on, why ANWR? According to the EIA, the most optimistic projections show only a $1.44/barrel (2006) decrease in the price of oil and a 3 percent decrease in import dependency at ANWR's peak in 2027:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/anwr/index.html

This seems tiny. What am I missing?

You don't get it. It isn't "Drill in ANWR!"

It is "Drill everywhere there is oil and if there isn't oil there, build a nuclear power plant!"

Yes, ANWR alone will not solve the world's oil problems, but it is one step along the way.

The real question is, why NOT drill in ANWR?

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Haven't most of their projections been incorrect?

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conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

I think you're right, quarter-century projections of a volatile commodities market probably aren't very reliable. But I'm not quite ready to say that they can't give a sense of scale.

Do you know of any particular EIA projections that turned out to be unreasonable?

is a good start. Somewhat, only somewhat, in their defense, they are well served to be very conservative.

Actually, nobody knows how much oil is in Alaska or the Alaskan continental shelf because it has been almost impossible to explore any of it except that on State lands. Once the price went in the toilet in the mid-eighties, there really wasn't any incentive to explore remote, expensive fields, so the little exploration and development that was done was in the provinces adjacent to Prudhoe Bay so little infrastructure would be required to bring on any find, e.g., the Kuparuk Field.

In Vino Veritas

you got to him before I could refer him to you.....;^)

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conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

That is a good start. Interesting.

...But if you really want the low down, I'd talk to Achance...he is from Alaska and has worked in their gov't...he has addressed you down thread and I am sure he wouldn't mind opening up school for you if you are serious....but if you are not here in good faith I would suggest you just leave....but like I said if you really want to know ask Achance down thread.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

It is only one piece of what is needed. ANWR, off-shore drilling, oil shale in the Rockies, coal liquefaction AS WELL AS: increased nuclear power generation, development of non-food related bio-fuels, solar, wind etc....

In several decades, we may have enough renewable and alternative energy sources that we can completely eliminate fossil fuels from the inventory.

But in the short term we need to increase American production of fossil fuels to bridge the gap until renewables and alternatives come on line.

We need all the arrows in our quiver.

Those who control energy, control society.

that none of that stuff is true.

In Vino Veritas

jft13: DRILL IN ANWR NOW!!!!Call your Senate and House REPS and push them on the importance for the US of A and ALASKA'S economy as well as jobs! The environmentalists are killing US!

It is imperative to drill in that small 2000 acres now, for its wealth of oil, but it is only a part of what we can produce on the whole north slope of ALASKA in quick order---not just OIL but Natural Gas +. Alaska has been waiting 25 years for this one small area. Yes, it may be pristine in appearance: but it is UNLIVEABLE for man and animals..even drilling is only done in midwinter in extreme cold. Plus 73+% of ALASKANS want ANWR DRILLED--your guess's on what's there are not accurate.YOU are missing the facts, Duckhawk--the info you get comes from the left, not reality

We Alaskans have been prevented from doing anything at all to develop our incredible resources which AMERICA NEEDS now and for our contry's security as well!!PUT pressure on Congress NOW!! Please! I have lived in AK just 66 years!!!


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And if you don't trust the governmental EIA, who else do you trust? What other estimates from other entities exist out there, if any?

Oil is such a volatile commodity, we have seen several days lately where the intraday price swing is on the order of $4 to $5.

So EIA says (in 2006, no less, in a radically different market) that the effect of ANWR on prices would be $1.44 per barrel (or whatever the number is -- something like 1% of current price), it's trotted all over the internet like it's actual information.

How do they know? How can you make a prediction of an effect that is within the band of statistical noise?

It's nonsense. Adding 10% +/- to national productive capacity would be meaningful.

And we don't even know what the stinking reserves are until we put a bit in the ground and drill a well.

"PsychObama, qu'est-ce que c'est?"

Yes, the response ($1.44) is less than some measure of variance (your $5). This by itself doesn't show that the model is broken. More accurately, the effect of drilling in ANWR (according to the model) is indistinguishable from zero.

Maybe that's ridiculous. See above for some interesting points by Achance on the model's assumptions. But I'm not willing to say that the model is wrong just because I think that the the conclusions are wrong.

The study actually claims closer to 30% increase in national production -- less than 2% of global production. So I still don't see why this would make a meaningful impact on oil prices.

... to market share. They have strategically priced crude in the past so that it discouraged us from exploring and developing alternatives.

It is important for us to demonstrate something resembling national will.

"PsychObama, qu'est-ce que c'est?"

to your comments? Our are you going to keep this up until someone either agrees with you or gives up the answer you want to hear?

Those who control energy, control society.

Exploration does seem pretty important. I don't know if the Senate GOP was pushing exploratory drilling or long-term production leases, or both, or if they're the same thing. It does seem hard to incentivize exploration without offering production rights, though.

Exploration is very costly, time consuming and has low returns.

Drill where we KNOW there is oil NOW, then while we're drilling where we KNOW there is oil (that includes ANWR, where the area we want to drill in is the size of an airport, in the largest state in the US), explore other areas.

If there is no oil, build a nuclear power plant.

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An oil and gas lease is an option to explore, and if successful, develop and produce. Leases are held for a term of 5 years (10 in deepwater); if producible hydrocarbons are found, the lease is active as long as it is capable of producing in paying quantitites.

"PsychObama, qu'est-ce que c'est?"

The ANWAR issue would be huge for us but McCain having long opposed it stinks. The issue can play to all groups of people; from the college kid who travels to college and is living month to month, to the senior citizens on fixed incomes, to families just making ends meet.

I have always been annoyed that its these blue states that have bad record on the environmental issues. I mean CA, NY, NJ, MI, MA, etc are all blue -blue states and they are the ones who scream about ANWAR when these are the type of people who would never live in Alaska other then a visit.

Even if they visited, they wouldn't visit ANWR.

If they want to see snow and ice, they can stay home.

I wouldn't mind visiting Alaska, but all of the video I see from there is either tundra or swamped with bugs.

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Dependence is Slavery.

Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.85

unless you're a Congressman on a "fact-finding mission," a State or Federal bureaucrat, or very rich.

It's a $1500 airfare from Seattle to Deadhorse or Barrow. Then you have to charter a small plane or a helicopter. If you're staying overnight anywhere in ANWR, bring camping gear and warm clothes; daytime temps are in the forties, sometimes low fifties in summer, nightime near or below freezing, though there's no night per se this time of year. However when the Sun sets in November, it doesn't come back up until February. It's really an altogether unpleasant place that I can't think of any reason to go to unless somebody is paying me one Helluva lot of money and giving me lots of time off to enjoy the decadence in Anchorage or Fairbanks.

In Vino Veritas

 
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