America Rejects Bill Kristol

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Going along with my last post (and yes, I really am up at 4:00 a.m.), I'd like to take this opportunity to point out again that the voters did not reject conservatism in this election -- they rejected Bill Kristol's fanciful "Big Government Conservatism," which had as much to do with conservatism as horse manure does with apple pies.

It is time to go back to our first principles. We can argue about what those are, but it seems they are more National Review principles than Weekly Standard principles.


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I think you are right. I just hope the GOP leadership realizes it ... or we could be in big trouble in 2008.

I must say, though, the statement from Boehner seemed to indicate he had an inkling what the cause was.

We win when we govern as Reagan/Contract With America Conservatism. They are one in the same. No new taxes, no new big gov't idealism, just basic Constitutional Conservatism. Plain as day.

Reagan gave us twelve years of executive power, Gingrich and the Contract With America gave us twelve years of legislative power. When we water down their basic fundamentals, we lose to the real deal, Liberalsm. So here we are.

We win when we govern as Conservatives!

Arnold has sold California to the green party, wait till that tax bill comes due. Don't count Arnold as a victory because more people with assets are leaving California faster than you can ask what zip code is West Palm Beach!

Kristol's cheering because he sees a boost in magazine subscriptions. That and he begins really paving the way for McCain '08.

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will oblige this weekend. Bill Kristol was very influential in persuading me to switch parties and embrace conservatism in 2001. He is the same kind of Neo-con as was FDR, HST, JFK and Reagan. He defends social conservatives citing the founders. He is hawk's hawk. I disagree with him on McCain and some other issues, but he is a brilliant man and a great conservative advocate. He is a Reagan supply sider as well.

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The Washington Post. By machine-gunning George Allen with the box of bullets he so stupidly gave them, they have single-handedly turned the Senate over to the Democrats, reasserted their long-slipping power over the nation's capital, and established the unquestioned leadership of the MSM thought police. They certainly counted for a few points of Michael Steele voter supression as well.

Blogosphere, schmogosphere. It's back to the 1970s, people.

If anything was rejected, it was the type of big government policies, open borders, and foriegn policies best described as "neocon". Exactly the type of stuff Kristol stands for.

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Kyle

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

America certainly rejects Kristol. That post is dead on. Big government conservatism has been the undoing. Continue on that road and face further undoing (McCain) or right the ship and get the voters to passionately support you again. Conservatives will not passionatley support big government of any kind. Dem or Republican. Let's learn this now.

Period. Neoconservatism was the ultimate loser last night.

Anything Bill Kristol and those like him have endorsed or supported has died. Good riddance.

Is a weasel.And ask yourself this question would you by a car from Kristol the weasel.Rick Santorum got beat by a empty suit running on his daddy's name.But he also did it to himself when & President Bush DRAGGED Arlen(single bullet theory-not proven)Sphincter er Specter across the finish line when he Beat Pat Toomey a real Conservative not a RINO!!!!!!!

The rejection of neoconservatism is a good thing. Im a conservative leaning Libertarian (when there isnt an L on the ballot, I vote R about 99% of the time) but the recent neocon policies have really turned me off of the GOP (not that the Dems have done anything to make me happy).

Im taking a wait and see approach. The GOP going with true conservative leadership across the board would be a good start. The 2008 presidential candidate pick is a big deal too. Conservative leadership with a solid conservative candidate in '08 and you all will be back in control in 2 years. Screw it up and it may be a while.

Neoconservatism is neither new nor conservative. Discuss.

How can that be said when he is drooling for McCain to be President? Do you know who McCain is? He is no conservative and and should be called what he is...a media whore!

Liberal thinking, if followed, will eventually be the demise of America.

More often than not I like and agree with Kristol. However, his support for McCain and his "national greatness conservatism" trouble me. But he's a smart guy who gives other smart conservatives a place to advance their ideas.

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engraved silver lining.

My harp is turned to mourning, and my organ shall speak with the voice of them that weep. Spare me, O Lord, for my days are truly as nothing.

Unfortunately, there is no way to vote out of office a faux conservative who edits a faux conservative magazine. The only punishment to inflict on Bill Kristol is to ignore and marginalize him, not that there will be much dissent on that score.

will move to another. Kind of like Alien. The ideology never fails, you see, it just wasn't properly applied.
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Bush '43 has made some foreign policy shifts from the previous administration's that I worry about wrt voters' rejection. Since Nixon the US has taken a 'realist' view wrt foreign policy. All of the venom and poison bubbling below the surface is simply disregarded as long as the country itself does not declare war on the US or its allies. So we have had state sponsored terrorists for all these years, and we paid little attention to it or treated it as simply a law enforcement concern. Bush '43 has changed from this policy so that now it is not a law enforcement thing. It is a war thing. I worry that voters have rejected this. Perhaps the voters reject the notion that the US can make a new democracy in the Middle East. Maybe the US can't do that. Maybe our achievable goal is to make a new country in the Middle East that will not export the Sharia and sponsor terrorists. I reject the notion of returning to the old 'realist foreign policy approach.

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Except it goes back even before Nixon. We've had a very long time indeed to find out how well the "realist" view of international relations works, since that has been the operational basis for our foreign policy for most of the past century.

Sure, we know it doesn't work, but it is as easy as you can get, and easy seems to be what voters want.
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because it seemed like countries with armies went to war in earlier times. The idea of sponsoring terrorists like the Munich olympics to the present seem to be a change of tactics from earlier times.

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