Bush on Kerry

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JUST NOW FROM PERRY, GA:

"There are some things we should all be able to agree on. One of those things is that everyone of our troops deserves our respect and gratitude. . . . Yesterday . . . Senator Kerry was speaking to a group in California and said [insert Kerry quote].

"The Senator's statement . . . is insulting and it is shameful. The members of the United States military are plenty smart and they are plenty brave and the Senator from Massachusetts owes them an apology."

[crowd goes wild]

"Whatever party you are in in America, our troops deserve the full support of our government and I don't have any doubt that Mac Collins will stand strong for the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States"

On the Democrats:

"I'm not saying they're unpatriotic. I'm saying they're wrong."


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Not nearly all of them, of course. Far too many, however.

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

And the dems are caught flat-footed.

Kerry is manning up, sticking to his guns, and claiming that he just stumbled over an anti-Bush joke.

Suppose that were true. What joke was he trying to make? Here are his immortal words:

You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.

"... in the White House."

Except that's where he, with what one assumes was his best effort, wasn't able to get.

John Kerry is a small man, and no amount of name calling and choir preaching can change that.

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Evil men hide from the truth, but good men stand upon it.

There was nothing even remotely amusing in his comments. To say it was a joke defies credulity. It was nothing more than East Coast elitism on display.

Hopefully, the GOP can capitalize and make up some ground. It's about time the other side made a misstep.

Did you see the joke in context? Even the muddled presentation (by a guy who shouldn't be allowed near humor in the first place), it's clearly aimed at W's lack of intellectual curiosity. Seems Karl was first to hear "education" and "Iraq" in the same sentence and assume it was talking about today's armed forces.

Another shameful misrepresentation of fact that is driving this independent to vote Blue.

You're no independent. Not even the most befuddled of people could believe that.

Again - look at it in context. The piece in heavy rotation on Fox and talk radio is only half the joke. Watch/read the whole piece - it's a take on Bush's narrow world view.

At the end of the day nothing matters but votes. I hear real passion in the voices of only one group of potential voters - mothers of teenage children. They may not agree with Kerry's joke about Bush's intellect, but most quietly believe the sentiment Rove put into words: "Finish your homework - they're not taking my kid."

You just confirmed that you feel the military are uneducated while arguing that Kerry wasn't saying that. You have a very short range of cognitive coherence there. Care to try to fragment within a sentence ? BTW nice Freudian slip on inserting Rove.

No slip - republican talking points like this come from Karl's desk.

You're making a huge leap. I'm disgusted by the misrepresentation of Kerry's slam at Bush as being a slam at troops. Everyone from the president on down who is fanning the flames with this incomplete version of events is disgusting. Do the military men and women being used as a political football really need this stress? The story was fabricated - find the context if you haven't done so yet.

Are you in the miiitary? Do you have kids? Are they in the military? If junior says "I'm blowing off Stanford to join the infantry" your wife would say?

"No slip - republican talking points like this come from Karl's desk."

Show me. I know you can't but what the heck.

As to your point about kids being taken for the military put the tinfoil hat back on. ITS A VOLUNTEER MILITARY. If you want an education there are so many ways to swing it, virtually anyone can do it.

If my kid was in Stanford and told me he was blowing off school to join the infantry I would slap him on the back of the head and tell him do what his old man did and go ROTC.

BTW all the services met their recruitment goals without resorting to men in black helicopters and nets.

Don't shoot the messenger - I'm just hearing real passion from mothers who are afaid of where this train is headed (Iran, N. Korea).

Recruitment goals are being met by lowering quotas, lowering qualifications, and offering bribes.

Do you get any news and information from sources not owned by Mr. Murdoch?

This is your one shot to put down that Pointy Stick™ and play nice. Or we will shoot you.

Thanks.
Mgmt.

"We could find a speck of dust and scribble down our life stories..." - The Refreshments

No name calling, no profanity, no personal attacks, am I missing some other definition of "play nice"?

Which is shocking, considering that you wrote it:

Do you get any news and information from sources not owned by Mr. Murdoch?

You also apparently missed the part about the moderators being final arbiters, etc. etc.

"We could find a speck of dust and scribble down our life stories..." - The Refreshments

if you consider yourself to be a messnger thenmaybe you have an obligation to ask these passioante mothers "just what the H*ll is wrong with your son or dauger serving their country --- is it beneath little Johnny or Janie? Carry this message --- maybe the problem lies with Mom.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

"Recruitment goals are being met by lowering quotas, lowering qualifications, and offering bribes."
Obviously, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Quotas are higher than they have been since before Clinton, qualifications requirements are getting higher every month (oh, you didn't know there was a limit on GEDs and a requirement to put so many College Grads in the Army...), and if money was what put people in the Army, or any other branch, then the AF and MC would be Hurting right now (considering as their "bribes" are effectively nonexistent)...

You MIGHT just want to educate yourself before spouting off. My money says you're not qualified to join, yourself...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

Take it easy, all they have to work with is the TalkingPoints™ and the KnownFacts™ so their repertoire is very limited :-)


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

Cindy Sheehan ?

Recruitment goals are being met by lowering quotas, lowering qualifications, and offering bribes.

Why does that surprise you ? Did you think supply and demand had been repealed ?

Do you get any news and information from sources not owned by Mr. Murdoch?

Well thank you for proving that you are no independent and as left as they come.
To answer your question, I get my daily news from 25 websites I have in an aggregator they include wheather.com, wsj.com, sciencenews.org . I also toss in google news, Popurls, Del.ici.us and Digg.com and for the lighter side I have BoingBoing and Slashdot. I am by and large unaware of who or what owns them.

Actually my ire was raised while comparing all three major cable news networks coverage of the story. Chris Mathews insisted on showing the entire contex of Kerry's comments - it was chilling to watch Fox intimate there was no other context, and perhaps worse to watch CNN try to avoid the whole story by talking about Korea.

My only point was that while this may look to be good news for republicans in terms of election, playing it as a troop/education issue may confirm the leanings of mothers who don't want their kids sent to war.

Obviously this place is as open to debate as KOS.

Later

Was the few people that laughed at the remark. There is no doubt what Kerry meant. There is no doubt that the few who laughed were doing so because they felt superior.

You would have done better here if you didn't insult the board with your proclamation of independence . Nobody takes well to being insulted. Your last comment is just one more of the same. I am not happy about having a U.S. senator insult our troops. I am angry. If you were in the military at any point in your life you would understand. If you just understood the relationship between the civilian authority and the military you should be furious. If you had any grasp of history you should be whitefaced as the blood drains away because of this.

What Kerry did was inexcusable and compounded by the load of garbage he tried to push.

with this "mothers don't want their kids sent to war" line? There are plenty of mothers who are proud of their patriot sons and daughters and understand the necessity of what the military does and the dangers of this world including the “train” of Iran and North Korea which is not by our choosing. Or we could just go with putting the Democrats in charge who have no moral authority with the warrior class that defends this nation, truly watch reenlistment numbers plummet and then watch the sons of the mothers your so concerned with get drafted out of necessity to deal with the aggressive actions of Iran and/or North Korean towards a weaker America.

But let’s give you the benefit of the doubt and assume Kerry was merely showing his contempt towards the Commander in Chief in the face of war. Why, how dare we call him and the rest of his defenders unpatriotic?

But not re: your comment about our being as open to debate as the kossacks. There's no comparison there and never will be.

It is a reasonable interpretation to say that Kerry was trying to insult Bush. It makes sense in a way. It's a terrible joke, but it goes like this: "If you study, you could do well in life. If you don't study, the way Bush didn't study, because we all know Bush is stupid, then you can end up doing something really dumb, like getting stuck in Iraq."

Fine. A reasonable interpretation. I'm not going to say you're definitely wrong to choose it.

It is not the only interpretation, however. There are others. For instance, one might wonder why Kerry never mentioned the President if the joke was about him. One might also wonder why he didn't explain the joke at more length in his tirade later on (instead of simply asserting that it was about Bush, when that is not self-evident). And above all, one might wonder whether it is unlikely that Kerry would insult the troops. Kerry has a very long and shameful record on that score.

So I think you have a point. But I think the evidence before us all now still supports another interpretation for now, however, and Kerry has not done much to persuade anyone otherwise.

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

See my post above and then go educate yourself about Military Recruitment.
I'd rather have people silent than have "military supporters" spout of garbage like this:

"Recruitment goals are being met by lowering quotas, lowering qualifications, and offering bribes.

Why does that surprise you ? Did you think supply and demand had been repealed ?"

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

You are correct. I was posting off the top of my head without checking first.

The laws of Suppl and Demand do not apply to the US Military...

But thank you.

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

And said he was blowing off school and joining the Infantry, I'd slap his upside the head and ask what took so long...
I mean, Stanford...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

he'll grow up smarter by getting away from that place.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

Mrx2 is Mr. X Squared.

I think its Marx Squared.

unadulterated BS.

"... mothers of teenage children ... they're not taking my children." Its a volunteer force idiot. And if a mother is that opposed to her child serving their country then just maybe the problem is with the mother, not the child or Bush.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

Our Marine son Josh came home on predeployment leave with several of his guys. A slew of his HS buddies who were in college came over to say hi. After watching the interchange between the Marines and the college kids for three days, my wife (who wasn't happy about Joshes chosen MOS - machine gunner) said, "I'm so glad Josh is a Marine..."

Mrx2, you're an asshat.

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Seeing as how Bush went to Yale and out performed Kerry academically and proceeded to run a major league baseball team, get elected Governor of Texas and win two Presidential elections means he either fits the "setup" profile or Kerry would have to concede he fits the setup profile.

So, you tell me the joke as it was originally written. Or, why hasn't Kerry said, "The joke was supposed to go like this see, and I screwed it up and it came out wrong and I'm sorry that it did.

Nope. That is the real John Kerry and he wasn't even drunk, just stupid.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Is that you are repeating that obvious lie, you are a plant and a shill for the hate American party. How does that feel you loser?

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

No amount of spin is going to cover for this poltroon and his disparaging of the American military for the whole of his adult life.

it's clearly aimed at W's lack of intellectual curiosity

This from a guy with lower marks than Bush at Yale! Yeah we're buying that...

If you believe what your saying here you my friend are a pinhead of the highest order!!!

btw i think you're and independent like I believe the sky is green...

Good day to you sir!

"The Road To Freedom Is Seldom Traveled By The Multitude" Madhouse Thought

I'll wager real money that George Bush's "intellectual curiosity" and knowledge of history is significantly better than John Francoise Kerry or yours.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

Now, that's funny. And I know funny.

Doesn't Kerry get it that he emboldens the enemy every time he opens his unbelievable trap.

Last time I checked, having a degree from Yale and a Harvard MBA is a pretty solid academic accomplishment.

just lying and getting caught. Anyone who's ever raised kids knows that one.

In Vino Veritas

You see. I frown on Kerry for these remarks but for different reasons.

Kerry's "joke", even if he clearly said it as it was intended, ie "Bush is stupid", is still a bad joke that makes him look bad more than it does Bush to many people who don't appreciate those kinds of remarks.

Don't tread on me.

it was John Francoise Kerry being his classless, pompous humorless self. He just said what is in his mind and that's the kind of stuff that comes out --- another Kerryism©


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

The remark doesn't even make sense in context of Bush... but that's the best they could come up with in the damage control session, so that is what you all are stuck with, eh?
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

Yeah. I'm a dem. I MUST BE. I couldn't possibly roll my eyes at Kerry and this whole stupid story AND NOT be a Dem at the same time. Politics can really be poisonous.

Don't tread on me.

Hey by zuiko

I don't care if you're a dem, a green, a "libertarian," or a martian. You're the one repeating the same nonsense Democrat talking point.
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

...not the Democrats.

From lying us into war. First it's WMDs, then Sadaam and Al Qaeda are in league together, then Iraq needs to be a Democracy. Constantly changing the rational when the last was proven false.

To sending our troops in harms way without the correct body armor and they STILL don't have it 3 years later!

Was Kerry's comments a gaff... I think so.

How many times has YOUR president screwed up a sentence or two. I can't count that high.

I completely agree with Kerry's statement:

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_103106WABkerryEL.4e1ee6f.html

"If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.

I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.

The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they're afraid to debate real men. And this time it won't work because we're going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq."

Suck it up. The Democrats aren't going to take it anymore.

Liberal and proud of it!

The suspense is killing me....

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

To which one are you referring to?

Liberal and proud of it!

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

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Thou art the Great Cat, the avenger of the Gods, and the judge of words...-Inscription on the Royal Tombs at Thebes

the authorization for the use of force in Iraq Kerry voted for and then come back and depate why all the reasons beyond on the WMD voted for by Kerry are no longer valid.

Look them up. Let me give you a hint. None of them are a Saddam / Al Qada connection.

"The Road To Freedom Is Seldom Traveled By The Multitude" Madhouse Thought

I can't count that high.

At least you didn't end up in Iraq as a result, eh?
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The Road To Freedom Is Seldom Traveled By The Multitude" Madhouse Thought

Stupid and not afraid to prove it.

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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?

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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?

for the use of force in Iraq beyond WMD Kerry voted for in the Senate resolution. Impress me.

There's a real curious intellect.

In a long time, I'm feeling a tinge of optimism about this election.

I was wondering when the Democrats were going to finally step up to the plate and put their foot in their mouth. I would have expected it to be Pelosi, but Kerry suits me just fine.

Pelosi in hiding but forgot to do the same with Kerry, thank God.

an asshat with ADHD. Take your "facts" to Canada. Oops, can't go there, they elected a conservative. How about France.

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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?

I post something you don't like and you disable my account. Just like most republicans. You can't stand someone that disagrees with you.

because you're kinda dumb

now go play with the little kiddies over at kos...

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

...but I'm willing to debate and discuss. So far all I've seen is name calling from you folks.

Why not debate the merits...I noticed no one was offered proof countering my arguements.

So, everyone of you MUST agree with the key pillars as I described them. If not, come back with a logical reason, use links to back up your "facts" and debate on the merits.

I'll be in front of and away from my PC for the next 30 minutes or so.

Theres over a dozen stories and probably over a thousand posts on this topic. Nobody feels its worth the effort to argue with someone that can't come up with their own content.

because we've already tired of the stupidity and lies you here regurgitate YEARS ago. perhaps you're a charity case who's been stuck in your bubble for the past 3 years, and we're being uncharitable by not gently setting you straight. but oh well.

What’s to debate? All the debate on Iraq occurred 2 years ago. Guess what, we won! Bush was reelected Kerry lost. Now liberals like you are trying to turn Kerry’s terrible political blunder into a second chance, redo on that debate. No thanks. Conservatives aren’t interested. All of your "known facts" and smears and attacks on Bush and troops over the last 2 years have drained our desire for that along with the fact that we already had the debate and won. You can’t debate without a credible partner, liberals just aren’t credible. You guys can’t even decide on a solution! You are all over the place from pull out now, to phased withdrawals, to dividing the country. How can you debate with a political group that can’t decide what they believe and what actions are required because of those beliefs.

This is really simple. Kerry made a dumb ill advised wise crack that came off as condescending and arrogant. Fine but if he had just apologized and said humbly "I made a dumb comment, but I am a veteran myself and I certainly didn’t mean to diminish the troops" then right there the fire would have cooled. Instead he totally miscalculates politically and takes this as another "swift boating" and comes across as unapologetic and arrogant. Personally I think this was just dumb politics on Kerry's fault, but the reason he even made that stupid comment was that liberals have become so used to dumping all over the troops and the effort in Iraq that a gaffe like this one was inevitable. It is an example of what liberals really think of our military, but politically Kerry could have handled it much better and dissolved the controversy instead of making it worse.

I would say this sinks any hopes Kerry had for a '08 nomination. Democrats should just throw this guy overboard.

what 98.2% of the prominent Democrats actually believe?

Yes and thats the problem. They all believe it, but none are dumb enough to say it. Kerry is, and thats why he is a loser.

thar she blows. Hey you lasted longer than someone like me would at Kos or MyDD

To write 1 post.
But I suppose that when your nick is "Army Recruiter" you don't make it through the approved profile filter...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

What you posteed were TalkingPoints™ and KnownFacts™, to which we roll our collective eyes and sigh.

We've all fisked such posts more times than we care to remember, and probably more than you can count. The policy here is simply to issue a quick blam; anything else wastes far too much time.

Be an adult, or go away.

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Evil men hide from the truth, but good men stand upon it.

BLAM

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

reinstate the "n" day posting delay --- at least until a week or so after the election. Please.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

Why by plato

don't the people who support this war so much sign up for service rather than cheerlead on blogs. I bet the men and women in Iraq would rather have help than witty comments on this blog.

Bush rah rahing the armed forces sounds like rooting for your favorite football team. If it only it was that simple.

I was wondering how long it would take for this to surface. In my case I tried but was ineligible. Whats your excuse ?

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

whale ho. To the boats me hearties, there be whales here.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

And by the way- it is that simple. They are my favorite team.
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Thou art the Great Cat, the avenger of the Gods, and the judge of words...-Inscription on the Royal Tombs at Thebes

Let's annoy Redstate day?

Welcome for what has been the GOP majority's best day in more than a month. It might even be a turning point in this election cycle.

I wouldn't bother with the popcorn though. You might not last long.

...usually fifteen minutes is plenty of time for me to get to fascists like this winner. Ach, well, I can't have all the fun.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

are going to be very busy for the next week. I suggest a shift rotation schedule -- that we will always have Duty Blammer on call.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

who supports the Commander in Chief and the war I have an idea. Let's have John Kerry and George Bush visit Camp Victory at the same time and let's see which one gets a rock star reception and which one can't get the time of day from 90% of the crowd.

the guys at the Kerry reception.

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Are out in force.
It is Halloween, afterall.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2619383&page=1

Look down the left-hand side for the link to vote.

The last paragraph on page 2 is a riot:

What's unclear is if Kerry's comments will help rally Republican voters or help their party portray Democrats as against the troops to score victories next Tuesday. A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, "I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too."

calling out the dems for their poltroonery.
About darn time.
And from the way the Kos Koolaid Kids are swarming, it is clear they see what they have just witnessed: Their loss.

The economy is tanking and the feds are running a massive deficit. The middle class is starting to melt away, much like the polar ice caps.

With over 2800 American troops dead and greater than 30,000 wounded, the smart and patriotic folks in the services because they want to be there are dying out in staggering numbers.

Who will be aggressively recruited to replace them? It won't be rich people. It will be people who are struggling to get by in a lackluster economy. Laid off from the auto plant? Want to get a college degree? Join the military and get the GI bill!

He's not belittling the troops. He's belittling the situation that young Americans are facing today. He's saying "Do well, or you may find your only option is to jump into the blood-blender in Iraq if you ever intend to support a family."

The Dems take over and get Rangel's bill to reinstate the draft passed.

for seven whole minutes...

the race is on for 10.

if you maroons are going to come here and leave your rubbish at least get some new rubbish.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

since FDR

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

But for some reason no one wants to recycle it...

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

We have a winner. I didn't think you could get so many Dem talking point into a post.

A little advice that was given to me when I first started participating in usenet.

1. First read the discussion before contributing. Nobody likes to see things that have already been posted.

2. Second try to say something intelligent. Once you post it will be there forever.

3. Try not to antagonize the forum.

You have managed to break all three rules. Good Job

The only point Kerry has is on the end of his elitist head.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

Top by Raven

It's on the Top of his head...

no one online ever seems to get the spelling or the grammar or the cliches right at all...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

Stalingrad, where the German Sixth Army of approximately 250,000 MEN were killed or captured, now that's a die-off. Okinaway, Iwo Jima, Peileilieu, Monte Cassino, or the Chongchon River-THEM'S staggering numbers.

The level of sheer, blinkered ignorance in this one post is what's "staggering". In point of fact, your ignorance of the scale of the war, certainly as it compares with, say, Chancellorsville or Bastogne, leads me to believe that you have no earthly idea about which you are talking. I suggest you vote the straight Republican ticket to atone for the sheer idiocy of this post.

Oh God, it just occured to me, it must be Kaos over at Kos.

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill

That's pretty good...

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

He's not belittling the troops. He's belittling the situation that young Americans are facing today. He's saying "Do well, or you may find your only option is to jump into the blood-blender in Iraq if you ever intend to support a family."

Did your fax machine run out of paper? The official talking point here is that he wasn't referring to the troops at all, but to Bush, or Foley, or Santa Claus, or anybody but the troops.
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

4.7% unemployment, 3.5% GDP Growth, new auto plants opening every year (in non-union we work for a living red states not rust belt losers), a record high stock market and rising disposable incomes for the middle class. That's tanking heh?

I had to sign up and just comment on Kerry, the gift that keeps on giving. What I want to know is how Karl Rove slipped him a bogus set of notes to read from when he addressed those college kids?! Because that is just one step away from the ridiculous, pompous, and mind-numbed response he gave today.

Stay tune to Rush tomorrow... Pres. Bush is supposed to be on the show!!

cheers...
Don't be afraid to see what you see... (the Gipper)

The Rove™; venerate The Rove™; honor The Rove™

John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

May his dark power be extended unto every voting booth in the land.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

Webb got me thinking the other day. When he started talking about Karl Rove's playbook and dirty campaign tricks, I realized that the Left really takes the whole "Karl Rove, evil Genius" thing seriously...
Over here it's a running joke, but over there...
Must be a VERY scary world for a lib

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

I'm a new user here, just signed up a few minutes ago. I have doubts about Kerry's explanation that he flubbed a joke on Bush. His explanation reminds me of that comedian, Jon Lovitz, who would say "yeah, that's the ticket" when he came up with a lie (however implausible) to get out of whatever situation.

love the analogy.
hope you stick around.
and Texas does rock.

And not to try over analyze this, but when Kerry delivers the punchline to this supposed joke, he has a nice pause and looks down at the podium.

Reading a speech card? A moment of reflection? What do you think?

while I think Kerry is a tool- It seems that maybe there are just a few too many posts on this issue- can things really be that bad?

things haven't exactly been looking well for the gop...

"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher

The Washington Post ran hundred of articles on unsubstantiated stories that George Allen may have one said a bad word thirty years ago. Surely a US senator calling our soldiers stupid is at least as newsworthy as that?

read what you just wrote?

Washington Post + (Dem) Senator calls troops stupid != newsworthy

:-)


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

what I like about Redstate is that it generally doesn't get into the petty, mudslinging stories, gaffs, etc. and when they do it's usually only one story- but this story just doesn't stop- he's already appologized- yet I haven't seen that story yet- not that it matters- Kerry is not funny and his "joke" proves the point beautifully.

Too good to be true...

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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?

In Vino Veritas

He apologized that his comment was "misinterpreted to imply anything negative about those in uniform."

So it's our fault for "misinterpreting" words that were crystal clear. It's not his fault for anything.

Typical. He can do no wrong in his eyes.

OK by zuiko

I'm sorry you are too thick to understand the nuance in his most excellent apology. See, now I've apologized too. :)
---
"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

"I'm sorry if my calling Dick Cheney an SOB was misinterpreted to imply anything negative about the Vice President. It was just a joke. Get over it!"

 
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