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...prompting Lou Dobbs to inform him that they had already called it.

"Every time some nitwit college student burns a flag on camera, that's one less idiot who can ever run for public office." - Crank

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" - Defoe

I didn't say that no conservatives were being lost.

But losing republican conservatives in red districts (and a conservative Santorum in a purple state) still hurts.

At any rate, a "purer" party with less moderates doesn't help us if we're in the minority. Look at how the netroots shot themselves in the foot with Joementum.

I get your point. Thanks for the clarification.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" - Defoe

Just looking for something to hang my hat on as the results roll in and are not making for a happy night.

If we can do what McCain talked about on Fox then we can take something away from this. He talked about 1976 - losing the WHite House and Congress and coming back strong in 1980. He said that Republicans need to sit down and figure out how to get back to conservative principles - smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation. If that happens, then perhaps we will have learned well from tonight, rather than learning the wrong lesson.

In fact I'm not depressed at all (but still disappointed).

I see many lemonades tomorow.

1. An easier road for 2008 because the dems will over-reach and make fools of themselves.

2. An easier road in 2012 because in that cycle the dems will be defending a great amount of senate seats.

3. A target rich environment for talk radio (ie Rush) to excite the base with at least two years of bashing the dems instead of a wishy washy majority.

Yes my friend, we don't have to gnash our teeth and beat our chests like the dems do when they lose. We can smile our devious smile and lay in wait.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" - Defoe

Get ready to man your battle stations.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan

or SHOULD have:
revenge is a dish best served cold...

rest up, there is cold food needing some preparation

What we do in life echoes in eternity.
-Maximus Decimus Meridius

Those inside the tent or those outside the tent?

I just did my perfunctory congratulations speech...my knee-jerk reaction is to suggest we go after those inside the tent.

On second guess, I may suggest the tent itself is the problem though. Use the "buying a new house" thought process when you buy an OLD house. you find the leaks and cracks and electrical and plumbing problems..gut the place, and ultimately start from scratch...perhaps this is what we wake up to tomorrow.

My vengeful self, however, wants to take out the rinos and incumbents still left standing after tonights ritual sacrifice...they all need to get out of the way to make room for those that truly bow in humility to the privilege and honor of serving US...we shall see if such a pol exists after this night..

At the very least, we need to look very closely at who got us into this mess in the first place...they need some iced pasta salad...

What we do in life echoes in eternity.
-Maximus Decimus Meridius

no matter how the votes come out tonight

Ignore what the main stream media says, especially between elections. Its easier to ignore what they say when we are a down-trodden minority, which too many of the "mainstream" conservatives that loathe Christian conservatives and Neo-cons, are comfortable being. As a minority, we need to learn one lesson. That we hate being the monority and we will not settle for it. Our country's future is at stake, and we need to fight the democrats on moral terms as if we truly believe the country's future is at stake. And then, once we re-gain the majority, we need to remember how we won it and act on our conservative values, no matter what the MSM says, incl what their bogus polls say.

We have to fight with passion, and that mans calling the dems out for their unpatriotic speech and for their anti-judeo-christian values.

And we must be blunt about it.

http://gamecock.townhall.com and www.race42008.com
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

Leave no corrupt stone uncovered.
And for God's sake, put leadership in the House and Senate that have a complete set of balls.
And lastly, act like conservatives, dammit.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan

All that you have suggested was told to these fools in the run up to this night.

It is pretty clear at 11:40 pm est what this night brings us, and most of us knew it even though we didn't want to admit or accept it. C17wife is right, war it is...and you, and me, and her, and a lot of the other old regulars here are game...

There is MUCH to do, but we are gonna have to bleed for quite a few weeks and months as we go forward. In the meantime, they are going to raise taxes and defund the war...and we have men and women in theater.

This is going to get a whole lot uglier...it's not just learning lessons and regaining majorities with newfound humility. We have our kids in harms way and we can't let them take this up their....well, you get my point.

There is a lot of hell to be paid, and we got checkbooks lining up to start paying...

It's gotta be game on...now, today, this very moment, and it's our troops that need to be the focus. This can not be tolerated.

What we do in life echoes in eternity.
-Maximus Decimus Meridius

We must build an Andrew Jackson spine in Dubya. He is going to have to get down in the mud now in order to fulfil his duty to the Constitution, the country and the troops. He is going to have to quit being nice to the aiders and abettors of our enemies and giving the cold shoulder to his own in the congress. He is going to have to call a spade a spade. The dems have emboldened our enemy just for this moment. The blood on the dems hands must be made an issue.

We must play the PR game like Clinton did during the givt shutdown.

We can put the troops' families on the air. Only the Pres can order the troops home. He must not. If the dems cut off money, lets get troops' spouses and mortgages on tv!!

more later

http://gamecock.townhall.com and www.race42008.com
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

we can do a modern day tea party...we boycott the IRS and refuse to pay our IRS bills in April and let's see how many of us they can come after.

How many IRS agents are there? How many Soldiers and Soldier families? How many of US? Heck, I'll gladly start the class action...you can litigate it!

If Nancy wants to defund them, we'll defund HER until she changes her tune...

Ok..Ok..I'll go to bed now since the delirium has obviously gone too far..
heh

What we do in life echoes in eternity.
-Maximus Decimus Meridius

It's too early to call this one. There are still too many votes for her oustanding.

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Develop alternatives to existing policies and keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes the politically inevitable. Milton Friedman

Not sure, maybe they have some uber secret in to calling early, but the reality is I think they want to come out with those "Fox news was the first to call blah blah blah race"

Reminds me of when I lived in SC and there was a really close senate race and one of the stations called the race for the guy who lost early in the evening and had to change the call. Two days later we had the "Blah blah news was the first to call the senate winner" which made me laugh, because while they were the first they were also wrong.

Bush is still commander in chief. He call the shots regarding the military.

From the looks of the elections and polls. It looks to me like people aren't really sharing your vision of America.

Buck up Tiger.

Tear down all the fences and watch as the Southwest is given back to Mexico in bits and pieces.

Again, I'm sheding tears for America...

If we're stuck with a Dem House and a tight Senate, I don't think it would be impossible that the conservatives in the Senate would try to filibuster any attempt to ram through "comprehensive reform."

propaganda to the contrary.

Unfortunately, we will have to crawl through glass to get Harriet Miers through the confirmation process now because of that and similar insanity.

Kowalski. As a matter of fact, as I watched FOX I couldn't help but notice a little glee in the eyes of the likes of Bill Kristol amd Fred Barnes about the prospects of a Democratic Congress re "comprehensive immigration reform." Not that anyone will listen to the likes of them after tonight, mind you.

I almost blew right past this...and I am glad I caught it.

Think about it for a sec. The smug, down their nose attitude about us is precisely because we are the threat to them. The Kos koolaiders are of the same ilk, so it is no wonder they want to slap us down.

When Moulitsas and the gang lost in '04 they were disgruntled whiners too...but they are from the same cloth as the MSM...we are out to get them.

I am ok with the pat on the head and the instruction to go home til I grow up because their days are numbered...so let them think this highly of themselves a little while longer

What we do in life echoes in eternity.
-Maximus Decimus Meridius

Enjoy the 2 years... Cuz that is probably all she or the democrats are going to get.

woops.. this was intended for the post below.

Clearly, you want to have a confrontation. Fine: here's one.

Here I am. (Spreading arms) Contributor to the site, former Democrat, dreaded 'neocon'... I stand before you, and I tell you, freely and without hesitation: you won.

Yes, you won. You beat us in the House, and there's a very good chance that you may beat us in the Senate. No question. So. Say your piece. Let it all bubble out; all your hate, and your pain, all your fear. Say it to me. No tricks, no games. You won't get banned for it. Let all the ugly bits out.

And the best part is? At the end of it, I will forgive you for what you say to me, because you and I are both children of God, and that's what I'm supposed to do, or else my faith is a sham. In a way, that may be why you're here; to remind me that forgiveness must always be possible, no matter how terrible the crime done.

Just remember, that when you're done, you have to take that all back within yourself. Because what is not happening here is that I volunteer to be your sin-eater. Whatever comes out is yours, and you will have to deal with it.

So, please. By all means.

Moe

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

You are nicer than me. They don't deserve grace at this point. God knows they never have given it.
But alas, you are probably right.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan

He can speak his piece directly to me, person to person.

Moe

PS: Nobody deserves grace. It's a gift. :)

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

Very, very classy.

I'm just gloating a bit but I dont think I've insulted anyone here. Are you kidding? Brining Jesus into a little blog banter? How arbitrary and ridiculous. I realize you kids are a bit testy tonight but I hope simple perspective and common sense will prevail when you realize Bush is still in power...and he's dusting his trusty veto pen as we speak. Oh and I'm no in the market for a 'sin eater', I already have a dustbuster and a sence of humor. Humor....remember what that is? I'm sure El Rushbo is aleady writing some new Pelosi material...maybe that'll lighten you ppl up a bit. For now, I'm gonna watch the talkng heads at Fox predict the end of the world. Poor Brit...I thought he might heave on air. I forgot how much I love this country. Thanks for reminding me Moe.

Cheers

Borat

But now that it's been established that you aren't going to take me up on my offer, please understand that you're going to have to act with a bit more basic respect towards your hosts and fellow guests in the future. We are having a bad week, and would appreciate the consideration.

I'm afraid that this is really non-negotiable.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

and like a typical liberal, you are too pompous to see or acknowledge it.
Arbitrary and ridiculous? How much more offensive can you be?
Contrary to what you might think, Jesus is very appropriate on a night like this. Because it is only through the love of Christ that I am refraining from telling you to do exactly what Dick Cheney told Patrick Leahy on the Senate floor.
And by the way, this isn't your house to gloat in. You have pissed all over the carpet and now it is time to get out.
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The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.-Reagan

Jack, you are really reminding me of a cock rooster with no hens at the moment.

The strutting, though unnecessary, is quite consistent with the antics of the children in your party of late.

I rather admire your testicular fortitude coming in to our little wake and b-slapping the corpse, but honestly...where is the pride, honor, and dignity of your victory?

Do you represent the opponent with whom we look forward to the next round of debate and civil discourse? If so, I scarcely believe your status can possibly last.

Much the same as the teens left to care for the house while the grownups go away for the weekend, I fear you will burn your own house down before we get home to give you the match...such immaturity should not be what you want us to plan for in the coming months...really-
go home, sleep off your little jubilee, and come back for a little grown up talk...maybe Moe will let you sit at the "big" table this thanksgiving...watchya say?

What we do in life echoes in eternity.
-Maximus Decimus Meridius

[hummma, humma, humma]

Please allow me to apologize on behalf of the uncivilized branch of my ideological kin.

What you posted was one of the most graceful things I have seen written in political blogging, and it deserved more than the garbage that passed for a response from him.

go look at the director's post. Your ideological kin over there has not read up on how to win friends and influence people.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

"Get your U of Virginia lawyers ready"

Just had to toss that in.

I'm not sure very many traditional Muslims would actually count the Farrakhan crowd as Muslims.
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

he only worked for Farrakhan for the around Ten Thousand Man March. I think he considers himself a pretty traditional muslim. He is definately the typical out of Iraq, blame America lib.