Thoughts for a Monday Morning

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Can all the polls be wrong?

The lefty netroots guys are already trying to start the meme that a Democratic victory in November would not have happened but for them. They are King Makers. Why then has Ned Lamont had to throw in over $10 million of his own money? And why is he 17 points behind?

The media has been so fixated with the "anti-GOP" mood, could they be ignoring Democrat incumbents who are trailing their Republican challengers? Hmmm . . . . maybe it's an anti-incumbent mood, not an anti-GOP mood?

Did you hear the one about how the public's opinion of Congress is at an all time low of 16%? I bet you heard it reported as an anti-GOP story. The truth is both the Democrats and Republicans are getting slammed.

Can you name the House Democrats who have all expressed in the past three weeks that capturing the House this year would be a long term disaster for the Dems because of a Speaker Pelosi and an emboldened Howard Dean? Hint: there are 11.

[Editor's Note: Now that this has been up for 11 hours: yes, there are 11. Yes, there are at least 3 vulnerable Dem seats right now, and yes, posts like this are troll bait. Happy harpooning, Moe!]


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CNN has been putting everything into this election. Last night it was Lou Dobbs and the "War on the Middle Class" tonight it's "This Broken Government" with Jack Cafferty at his sanity-defying best.

Perhaps this election is not such a cake walk for the Dems after all.

I have already donated $1,900 to Republican candidates. We need to get out there and do whatever we can to make sure these people don’t take over congress.

  • Donate whatever you can afford.
  • Volunteer to make phone calls.
  • Walk the neighborhoods and knock on doors.
  • Paint yourself red, white and blue and put on a big elephant head if you have to.

We cannot let the Jim Cafferties and Keith Olbermans of the world run this country.

Soldiers' Angels

"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)

all eleven remaining CNN viewers will be moved.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

But there will be at least half this country still watching it 5 years from now. The same group will read the nyt[wits] and the WashPost as well. Fortunately, they seem to be i a hurry to breed themselves out of existence...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

Out here in small town USA, the prevailing mood is one of disappointment in the GOP, but even greater distrust of the Democrats.

There are a lot of idiots out there who are drunk on the Church of the BDS sacramental kewlade, but I think they're far fewer than the lefty netroots would have us believe.

Look who's watching O'Reilly and Greta versus who's watching anything on CNN, PMSNBC, or the others. That's as good a poll as any of these "generic candidate" ones.

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Evil men hide from the truth, but good men stand upon it.

we physically CAN'T have cable, and therefore, CAN'T watch CNN or any of the rest. Those that have satellite have far better things to do (farming) than watch it either.

The prevailing mood IS, however, disgust with ALL...dread of a Lib majority, and comfort in the devil they know.

There will be R votes from 'round these parts...and the knowledge that we will better off "staying the course" than "cutting and running". There are lots of military families and friends of military families out in the sticks. They know who cares about them and who doesn't.

Proud to be: politically incorrect, straight, white, pro-life Christian, and of the opinion the spotted owl tastes just like chicken.

I really want all this to be just MSM hype, but here in Texas I'm afraid that their are more 'Perot' voters then we want to admit.

Perry(R)gov...is 20 points up in the polls but that STILL only gives him 35% of the vote. Grandma Strahorn (ex-R now I) is going to pull a lot of red votes. It is ALL 'Perot' type voters based on Perrys tax-spend govenorship. It has me thinking that we need to be concerned. I don't believe the MSM polls either....but it might just turn out that Perot is alive and well. Hope not.

It is ALL 'Perot' type voters based on Perrys tax-spend govenorship.
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Are we talking about the same governor who cut $10b from the budget without raising taxes? Perry is not a tax and spend governor. There are reasons people are against him, but be honest about it.

Ok...sorry.....watching the game and too many beers......it has to do with that 18 lane 600 mile toll road that he wants to put in using eminent domain and school funding/performance problems.......but the point I take from it is that he should be pulling over 50%. Kinky only gets the Willie Greens and the survivalists, Bell gets all the Dem vote. Grandma is pulling the independents and the Perot voters. I don't like it. I don't support it. But it sure worries me. Texas republicans usually stick with Bush and this election is revolving around how the country feels.

Perry isn't losing 65% of the vote because of the TTC. Perry will get about 40-45% of the vote and will win going away. It isn't a problem.

go out of their way to find things to be unhappy about.

ok...i'll shut up....damn Cardinals anyway.

If Reagan was governor of California or Texas today, CATO would be giving him a C and everyone would say "that guy will never be President".

When did Americans become such malcontents?

Heh by Snefix

Most people back in the day did say that Reagan would never be President.

And Americans have ALWAYS been malcontents. It's how we came to revolution; by not being content.

We could vote for Bread and Circuses and then found the bread stale and the circuses boring...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

It is what you expect when there are not one, but two splinter candidates in a race. Besides, even the Democrat is a fairly conservative one, as are the independents. Its not like the state has suddenly turned back to democrat. They just don't like Perry.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

Actually, Rick Perry is doing quite well from a fiscal standpoint. The libertarian Cato Institute just rated him 2nd best Governor in the Nation for fiscal restraint.

No, Perry is not doing as well as he could, cause Texas voters (myself included) see him as just too plane boring. Texas want pizzaz in their Governors. We want to be entertained. Say what you want about ole' Ann Richards, but she was anything BUT boring. And GWB had his Daddy's Presidential aura about him.

Perry has nothing except a good blowdryed haircut.

I like Rick, but he needs to surround himself with celebrities, maybe C&W artists, these last few weeks to ward off the Kinky challenge.

Eric Dondero
www.mainstreamlibertarian.com

for the left-wing netroots is that a pre-emptive declaration of victory only makes them look that much more culpable if they don't win. I think they probably need to win both houses, or at least the House by a large majority, in order to avoid an intra-party backlash.

A precedent embalms a principle.
- Disraeli

a real shame if there were extensive intra-party fighting among the Democrats. Yes indeedy, a real shame :-)


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

A precedent embalms a principle.
- Disraeli

...will not lead to a moment's introspection from a single Democrat. All of the finger pointing will inevitably be outward, not inward. Diebold, voter disenfranchisement, gas prices too high for Lou Dobbs' "middle class" revolutionaries to drive to the polls, etc.

"I will guarantee you that John Kerry will be president of the United States." - Nancy Pelosi

So much the better. Introspection could lead to correction and improvement among Democrats and we can do without that for a while longer --- say 50 or 60 years.

Let's them and them fight.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

the Democratic Party's inate talent for infighting, which is at least as extensive, if not more so, than the Republican penchant for the same. Recall Roy Roger's famous maxim: "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat." Also, recall the bitter recriminations that erupted after the 2004 elections (mainly focusing on John Kerry, but also his advisors, campaign managers, etc.)

A precedent embalms a principle.
- Disraeli

Not Roy Rogers. Will Rogers was a famous humorist and the man who, upon seeing a portrait of John Ringling told the subject, "Why John, that's the first time I've ever seen you with your hands in your own pockets!"

Roy Rogers, on the other hand, was a famous hopalong cowboy singing star. He was married to Dale Evans, had a horse named Trigger, was fabulously wealthy, and knew the Reagans from their Hollywood days. He founded this franchise of very forgettable franchise restaurants, iirc, but was not a famous humorist.

Roy Rogers was a Republican. He kept his hands in his own pockets, if memory serves. As did Will Rogers, who was, famously, a Democrat and a fan of FDR.

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill

Was also a WWII Vet and a highly decorated hero of the USMC...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

...and finger-pointing amongst themselves if/when the Dems fail to win both HR and Senate. However, it will be more of the "Dean didn't raise enough money to expose more people to our brilliant ideas" variety and none of the "Maybe we need more ideas that resonate with Americans who haven't eaten from the poisoned BDS apple and fewer 'plans' that never seem to materialize" variety.

It has been a long time since there was any actual Democratic introspection and acceptance of responsibility. They're in too big of a rush to play the victim and blame everyone else for their failures,

"I will guarantee you that John Kerry will be president of the United States." - Nancy Pelosi

Interesting . . . 11 Democrats. Are they all moderates, or are there any surprises thrown in?

I think that the atmosphere in the House will remain ugly no matter which party is in control.

led by AlGore, poisoned the well of American politics beginning on November 9, 2000 and they have never looked back. The current environment will be with us for a long, long time to come.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

although I agree that November 9, 2000 is extremely significant.

"In Robert Bork's America, there is no room at the inn for blacks and no place in the Constitution for women, and in our America there should be no seat on the Supreme Court for Robert Bork." - Sen. Edward Kennedy, September 15, 1987.

With Sen. Kennedy's statement before the Senate Judiciary Committee, the political landscape in America was changed forever, and unfortunately, we witnessed the birth of "Politics by Personal Destruction."

(Warning - Link above is to Part 1 of 5 - It is an extremely large .pdf file.)

HTML Index - Hearings and Senate Floor Statements - Nomination of Robert H. Bork to be Associate Justice. (In case anybody's interested.)

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

its been going on for a long time. I just arbitarily picked the post-election fiasco as a benchmark for what I consider to be the "institutionalizing" of the poisoning. I think at that point the Democrats elevated it from personal attacks and personal destruction of individuals to a formalized attack on the democratic process.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

a formalized attack on the democratic electoral process, then we are in full agreement.

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

He was only responding to the vicious attacks on his own minor indiscretions. He was apparently of the opinion that what happened in the river stayed in the river.

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Evil men hide from the truth, but good men stand upon it.

by claiming the GOP would starve old people and children and allow Black Churches to be burned with GOP matches and then decided to poison the well with Bushlied every day for 3 and 1/2 years after Gore re-negged on a concession of the 2000 election.

As long as the congress is inhabited by dishonorable ugly democrats, yes, "it" will be ugly no matter who has more members.

http://devine-gamecock.townhall.com and www.race42008.com
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

of fisticuffs on the Floor. They'll probably get no more done than they do now, but at least we can get some good betting in...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

feels right

http://devine-gamecock.townhall.com and www.race42008.com
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

It seems to be full of links to articles lauding Democrats, how they are going ot take the Congress, Nancy promising no impeachment while she's Speaker, blah blah blah. The MSM is piling it on now and by election day we should be awash in how wonderful it is that the Democrats are going to win and how good things will be after they do.

Reminds me a little of the old 'whistling past the graveyard' trick.


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

"No impeachment" . . . I wonder if that one has gotten back to the lefty blogosphere yet . . .

the "no impeachment"line is similar to CLinton's "tax cut for the middle class". Remember that when Clinton took over, he said he "agonized" that he had to renege on that plan because "the numbers were worse than we thought" (yeah right!).I get the feeling that if Chairman Conyers launches hearings, she'll turn around and say "new evidence now mandates impeachment".

Sitting out is a vote for KOS.

reminds me of a TV ad I saw recently. I don't know what it's for, some theme park or something, but it has a gigantic polar bear on one side of a glass wall and a cute little girl on the other. Little girl is thinking "its so big and fluffy", polar bear is thinking "lunch."


John
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Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.
... Jean-François Revel

http://www.tundracomics.com/

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

I am inclined to take Ms. Pelosi at her word regarding impeachment. The Dems know no such attempt can succeed in removing Bush from office, and they are probably aren't keen on the idea of having Dick Cheney become president (and we wondered why Bush keeps him around!). What the Dems will do, however, is try to bog the administration down with investigations. There will be at least a half-dozen major investigations designed to keep the White House on the defensive for the balance of its term. IMO, that scenario is at least as bad as a failed attempt at impeachment, which would at least have the benefit (from our perspective) of creating a probable backlash against the Democrats in '08.

A precedent embalms a principle.
- Disraeli

First of all, they will attempt to impeach BOTH Bush and Cheney. That will give them the open door for massive hearings on pre-Iraq intel, on every security program since, on Katrina, on the Administration targeting Michigan for job losses to hurt Jennie, on racism in immigration policy and the high fat content in fast food.

They will call W and Cheney, Laura and the dogs to all testify. Colin Powell will be on the witness list as will George Tenet. Bill Clinton will testify about how the new admin ignored his push to go after AQ. Etc.

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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?

"Speaker" Pelosi will become "President" Pelosi...

"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

Bah by Snefix

That such a 'promise' has to be made in the first place is a sign of how depraved and despicable the Democrats have become in their derangement and treatment of President Bush.

I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt on points 2,3 and 4, Erick, but if you're not just blowing smoke (and maybe I'd need to read the site more to already know this), you'll name the Dems trailing their challengers, you'll show me evidence that Democrats are hurting as much as Republicans, and you should be shouting at every opportunity the eleven(!) representatives who describe a Pelosi Speaker as a "disaster".

Why are you asking me to name them? A couple links would do the trick.

The Lamont point is the only one I want to go after outright, not as a comment on whether lefty bloggers are kingmakers, but more because their fight is an internecine one, and if Lieberman wins the 70% of Republicans he needs to carry CT, it'll have been thanks to a surprising move from a group none of the bloggers claim to have any sway over in the first place.

Cheers

-Congress' approval ratings are at 16%.
-Republicans are in the majority.
-Republicans have been in the majority for over a decade.
-Republican prospects of toppling a Democratic incumbent Member of the House are at about 1-5.
-Democratic prospects of toppling a Republican incumbent Member of the House number in the dozens, and the list appears to grow weekly.
-A solid majority of Americans (~55%) want Democrats to take control of the House.

I don't see how your argument holds any sort of credibility given these realities.

Vermillion drops
Splatter the shifting leaves -
Early Oni Spring.

Zubari.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

The only Democratic Senate seat which appears to be in danger is NJ. The polls I read indicate no Democratic House seats in danger. Who are the threatened Democrats???

IN, GA, VT are all possible GOP pickups for house seats

There are two endangered Georgia seats for Democrats, now leaning Republican. All the GOP needs to do is win those two seats and the House will be saved. Heard of another one in Pennsylvania and another one in Indiana.

And although the liberal biased media won't mention TX CD-22, that seat could go Libertarian. And the Libertarian, Bob Smither, has vowed to Caucus with the GOP, when he wins the election. So, technically, even though the media won't report this, TX CD-22 "leans Republican."

Eric Dondero
www.mainstreamlibertarian.com

because he could deprive Shelley Sekula-Gibbs of crucial votes. Since she IS on the ballot for the special election to fill that seat for the lame-duck session, TX-22 voters who want to vote for her only have to copy her name in the write-in section for the election for the next Congress. The problem is educating GOP voters to know that they need to vote for her TWICE--once in the special election, then write her name in for 2007-08. Write it five times on the blackboard for practice...SHELLEY SEKULA-GIBBS...

Speaking of vulnerable Democrats, does anyone have any info on the Murtha-Irey race in PA-12?

The bad news: Conservatism is hard to sell. The good news is that it works.

They're using computer ballots. It's not a paper ballot where you could just look up and copy the name down. Apparently the system is poorly designed, making write-ins very tedious to enter, too.
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

I've read about that system - apparently you use a scroll wheel to pick each letter, enter it, and then go on to the next one, all the way through the name. It's not so bad for normal ballot candidates, but for write-ins, it's slower than text messaging on a phone.

is if we push our friends and neighbors to get out their and vote.

I think it could be at least 1998 for the GOP if we don't push people hard to go out and vote, focusing on what the Dems would do if they get control.

An exceptionally strong GOTV is the primary basis for the GOP’s recent electoral success. That said, a Market Strategies Base Mobilization Survey was commissioned by the RNC and delivered to Ken Mehlman on August 2nd. The RNC Memo, which is based on that survey, can be found here in pdf format.

The survey was commissioned by the Republican National Committee to identify the most effective messages to mobilize the Republican Base for the 2006 elections and determine where the Base stands on important issues in this election cycle. It follows similar studies of the Base completed in 2002 and 2003.

Overall support for President Bush and congressional Republicans from the Republican Base is very strong. The generic congressional vote from Republicans is an overwhelming 84% to 6%, within sampling error of what we found for the 2004 elections. An equally impressive 88% to 11% majority of Republicans approve of the way the President is handling his job.

Intended turnout from the Base also is extremely high. Eighty-one percent (81%) say they are “almost certain” to vote this November, and another 14% say they are “very likely” to vote. This, too, is within sampling error of the intended turnout of Republicans for the 2004 elections.

A more recent analysis of current polls seems to support the findings of the Market Strategies survey.

From the latest RNC Email
Re: Republican Motivation

In recent days and weeks, the mainstream media have repeatedly claimed that the Republican base is suffering from "low voter enthusiasm." It is easy to believe a story that is repeated so frequently, but in fact there is ample evidence to the contrary. By many measures, there are strong indications of a right-of-center base that is engaged and committed.

First, numerous polls clearly indicate near parity in intensity between Democrats and Republicans. Three recent national surveys--Gallup, Cook/RT Strategies, and our most recent RNC survey conducted by Voter/Consumer Research--all show partisan interest is approximately equal. The details of those polls are below:

Voter/Consumer Research (Oct. 8-10)

The RNC's internal research shows election interest at 7.7 on a 10-point scale among Republicans and 7.6 among Democrats, unchanged from late September and in line with this year's overall trend.

Gallup (Oct. 6-8)

To quote from Gallup's voter turnout projection, "Gallup's latest analysis suggests Republicans and Democrats are now roughly even in terms of anticipated turnout in the midterm congressional elections. The voting intentions of the large pool of registered voters is now similar to the voting intentions of the smaller pool of likely voters, showing no disproportionate impact of turnout in either direction"

Gallup asked, "How motivated do you feel to get out and vote this year -- extremely motivated, very motivated, somewhat motivated, not too motivated or not at all motivated?(% "extremely" or "very" motivated)" The following table shows that the GOP in fact now holds a slight lead, up from just a few months ago:

Sept 15-17, 2006 GOP-70% DEM-67% NET (+3)
Jun 23-25, 2006 GOP-74% DEM-77% NET (-3)

Cook/RT Strategies (Oct. 5-8)

On a scale of one to 10, Republicans and Democrats have almost equally high mean election interest scores (8.2 for Republicans, 8.1 for Democrats), but Democrats hold a slight edge in the percentage of their voters who are "highly interested"--47 to 51 percent.

However, keeping in mind the local nature of midterm elections, it is more important to consider intensity by state or congressional district. RT Strategies/Constituent Dynamics (conducted Oct. 8-10) released district-by-district polling showing Republicans have a slight edge in partisan intensity. GOP "voter motivation" is higher than Democratic motivation in 19 of 32 competitive House races, in some cases by as much as a full point on a 1 to 9 scale. Democratic intensity is higher in the remaining 13, and in none of those races is the difference higher than 2/3 of a point.

Not all is going as well for the Democrats and their quest to retake congress as the Partisan Press would lead one to believe. I simply do not believe the “sit-this-one-out” mentality is widespread, and I'm confident that rational thought will prevail. A coordinated GOTV and a motivated Republican base are poised to turn "conventional wisdom" up-side-down, again.

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

I think it is a mistake to over focus on "National" feelings, because there aren't any "national" elections during the midterm-it is all indeed local.

I also think this is part of the problem with the national polls on whether one likes congress or not. Where the sample comes from is also important-are they sampling people in red or blue areas?

Politics is local, and in general most people have a "my guy is good, throw the other guys bum out" type view.

Also, if I was polled congress would get a very low disatisfaction score from me-but that doesn't translate into a vote for the democrats.

I've gotten to a point where I just throw out the polls. I just think this election is going to be so wacky that no poll is going to accurately predict what will happen.

The country hates congress right now, both sides. House elections though are decided locally and I think local issues that the national media doesn't have a grip on will play a large role. It's still hard to knock out an incumbent, it's hard to determine whether someone will walk into that booth on election day and decide they are angry enough to vote out everyone they can. A lot of people are angry with the congress as a whole, but like their local congressman.

I think we'll see some of what is predicted, but I'm certain we'll also see races that were not predicted to be close, end up being close. Races that were predicted to go one way, go the other. I can see the talk of losing 20 seats being overdone and them end up losing 8 or so. But I could also see an angry public just decide they are voting against the incumbent and watching a huge landslide. Whatever happens, I don't think anyone can predict it in this odd atmosphere.

but I don't believe it is focused on specific, tangible items they can take into the voting booth. A lot of folks will go to the polls with a purpose, step into the booth and then realize they don't have a clue who the other side is or what they stand for.

At that point, they'll weigh voting for the new unknown over the old known and will do the same old thing - vote straight ticket.

They've been told they are angry. They've been told they should go to the voting booth. They've been told they should throw out the GOP B*stards. So they'll go. No one has told them exactly why they should do so, however.

I think they'll finally ask 'Why' when they show to vote. Many less than predicted will shrug and say 'Why not'?

is that even though Republican's are pretty much assumed to be easily influenced, low IQ, mouth breathers(and often portrayed as such by the MSM), we're not. (I've tried mouth breathing and stopped. It was too hard and dried out my gums). Maybe they feel they can control us as such because their tactics work so well on their own kind.

When I talk politics with those on the left, I get nowhere. It really seems that we speak two different languages. I appreciate their intensity and passion for their beliefs. I just don't understand them.

At least with Independent and Republicans, I can hold a real conversation. My assessment is that we both read many sources of information to form our opinions and are therefore more open to consider additional information.

I have confidence that both majorities will hold. I think the media and the left (is there a difference?) have fallen victim to believing their own hype.

My greater concern is the post-election screaming about fraud and theft of the election. After all, the polls 'guaranteed' a victory, so it must have been stolen. 2000, here we go again - except all across the country.

But we might be fooling ourselves here, My only hope is for the Senate, looks like the house goes Dem no matter what, but we can make it a slim majority.

However, that might not be so bad as so many here have pronounced it doomsday. We are only talking about two years where there is NO WAY that the Dems can stop themselves from showing their monnbattery. If we choose a good leader for the presidential election in 2008 we can highlight their hate and craziness and come back in with an even bigger majority.

But If they also win the Senate, it is a disaster.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

The dems peaked with their Foley trick. They are getting more and more stale, as the celebrate their victory - before the election. Be of good cheer. Go volunteer for a GOTV group. Give some more last minute money.

Foley trick? The guy was going after teenage boys. I don't care when it came out or who put the story out, it's a good thing that it is out and he's out of congress.

A predator is a predator, Republican or Democrat means nothing to me on this issue. You can always tell which people don't have kids of their own.

Except that the message logs in question were had with a 20 year old, no?
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

By the time the Democrats who were "So concerned for the wellbeing of underage pages" got them published. He was suposedly 16 or 17 when the discussion between him and Foley occurred...

"Always be honest with yourself even if you are honest with no one else...
...It helps you keep track of your lies..."
--Myself

CBS by hunter

found a new low, letting Leslie Stahl do an infomercial for pelosi. It was a victory lap ten days before the election.
The dems will lose for sure.
No matter how they dressed up pelosi, she still shows herself as an anti-American witch determined to raise our traxes and lose this war.
And putting her hubbie on was just creepy.

Charlie Cook lists these:

GA-08 Jim Marshall
GA-12 John Barrow
IL-08 Melissa Bean
IA-03 Leonard Boswell
LA-03 Charlie Melancon
TX-17 Chet Edwards
VT-AL OPEN (Sanders)

that the reason some Democrats fear winning the House is a Nancy Pelosi Speaker or emboldened Howard Dean. That's what Republicans are concerned about.

Democrats are concerned that winning the House will be a Pyrrhic victory. They would no longer be a true minority party and the Republicans could start blaming the for not getting things done.

2 more years of complete Republican control would probably help them out in 2008.

"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not." George Bernard Shaw

and suggest they vote Republican this year to avoid placing themselves in that position. You are absolutly right that 2 more years of Republican control of both houses would be the best thing that could happen to Democrats. It's the only chance you have of winning in 2008, so you should make sure you lose this year so you can win more in the future.

http://devine-gamecock.townhall.com and www.race42008.com
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

 
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