Dare We Call It Cleavage?
the softer, feminine side of hillary!
By streiff Posted in 2008 — Comments (47) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
Robin Givhan, the Washington Post's fashion writer, laid off the thorazine for a few days and came up with this gem. Hillary Clinton is flashing cleavage at us.
Read on if you are strong enough
Givhan, the twit behind the crack house psychology on the dress of the children of Chief Justice John Roberts, writes a fawning story reminiscent of the infamous Al Gore "package" photo on the cover of Rolling Stone we learn:
With Clinton, there was the sense that you were catching a surreptitious glimpse at something private. You were intruding -- being a voyeur. Showing cleavage is a request to be engaged in a particular way. It doesn't necessarily mean that a woman is asking to be objectified, but it does suggest a certain confidence and physical ease. It means that a woman is content being perceived as a sexual person in addition to being seen as someone who is intelligent, authoritative, witty and whatever else might define her personality. It also means that she feels that all those other characteristics are so apparent and undeniable, that they will not be overshadowed.
To display cleavage in a setting that does not involve cocktails and hors d'oeuvres is a provocation. It requires that a woman be utterly at ease in her skin, coolly confident about her appearance, unflinching about her sense of style. Any hint of ambivalence makes everyone uncomfortable. And in matters of style, Clinton is as noncommittal as ever.
I don't take any of this too seriously. Even Hillary Clinton can't be so self absorbed as to believe anyone glimpsing her cleavage would feel like a voyeur, more like a gawker at a 5 car pile up on the freeway. And while she may be unflinching about her sense of style I wouldn't say that feeling is universal. (Guys, seriously, these two paragraphs have so many straight lines for one-liners that I can't do it justice.)
The Clintons were never noted for were style, class, or breeding. I have no doubt that at some level Clinton has decided the flappy, shapeless, black pantsuits she's been wearing as her equivalent of a Chairman Mao outfit are going to make her seem frumpy to the electorate.
Fine. She's superficial, she thinks we're all stupid, and she thinks she's clever. We've known that for sixteen years now. But this latest bit of theater by Hillary doesn't deserve comment, rather we should avert our eyes and for Heaven's sake ignore it.
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Which is why I didn't front-page it. :)
Like Tigerhawk, I find myself shocked to actually agree with firedoglake on something: the WaPo article was a waste of lifespan all around.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
hit the newds was the song that Letterman's band guy used to sing for Bubba when he was POTUS... Pasty White Thighs.
Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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The humanity!
"If thine eye offends thee, pluck it out".
Here's to all you pluckers.
cleavage than Hillary (and I'm a guy).
And to SteveLA's comment, the mere thought of HRC in a miniskirt is enough to make me give up food for a month to avoid the gag reflex...
That's not necessarily something to be proud of, my friend. I mean, it's funny and all, but still....
Just sayin' :)
Getting ready for hibernation?
That's my excuse.
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Now that Jenna Jameson has endorsed her and is obviously helping her display her womanly assets, is there any doubt that she will win?
I don't see any cleavage, I really don't, there's nothin' there.
Let me put this in to context that all of you will be able to understand...
"Not good enough for Bill, not good enough for us."
'nough said...
"Not good enough for Bill, not good enough for us."
"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)
Actually, Hillary and cleavage is like Dukakis in a tank.
"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill
...nothing to see here.
-imwithfred-
Could have been worse: She could have flashed a bit of the crack of her massive caboose. What would seeing THAT have meant for my life expectancy? 4 LESS YEARS! 4 LESS YEARS!
(ok, for grammar sticklers, 4 "fewer" years, but that just doesn't sound as good)
It's not cleavage if it's down around your belly button. It's just saggy boobs.
And as long as we're on the subject, SanFranNan needs to change her jacket style. No one wears a jacket that buttons up next to their rib cage unless they just paid $10,000 for new jugs. And when you're over 60, it's just wrong.
I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.
The next one will be about Giuliani's "package".
"I should be allowed to think" -- John Linnell
I've just reviewed your account and it's like you've been trying to get banned for months. You must have been going nuts: I mean, I walked right by you at least twice without even noticing. All I can say is, what with the new baby, sometimes things just fall through the cracks, you know?
Anyway: Blam.
Moe
PS: I hope that the delay hasn't messed up your schedule any.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
seen me, bud.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
to remember that he is to monopolize this dimension of his wife's identity, if he will. Confidence in the whole public version of their story over the last 15 years could make or break the prospects of a second co-presidency; either Bill quickly and publicly "stands by his woman," to reciprocate Hillary's role in the famous "60 Minutes" interview, or he neglects the potential political flashpoint that could disillusion even some of the last "true believers."b
Looks like a normal 59 year old woman to me.
Have we truly devolved to picking apart clothing and taking potshots at physical attributes? Aren't there ten thousand other items of substance we could be discussing in relation to Mrs. Clinton? I mean, it's not as if any of the comments were even slightly clever or amusing.
Raise the bar a bit, eh?
you feel the atmosphere is too low class for your refined sensibilities feel free to bugger off.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
I wish we had you around when Paula Jones, Linda Tripp, and Katherine Harris were having their looks trashed, routinely and too often. By any remote chance did you find any of that amusing? Of course not! But plenty did and that's why your eloquence would have been helpful.
I can't help wondering what feminist Hillary thought of in the case of Jones and Tripp, was her indignation has florid as yours? Putting aside the involvement of her husband as any person of substance and a feminist would.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
it could have been worse, she could have been wearing a mini-skirt. Wide angle camera please!
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
while you may consider them of "junior high mentality" are of a significantly higher quality than any of Mrs. Clinton's actual policy proposals.
Also, you might want to note that this discussion was actually spurred by one Robin Givhan of the WaPo. Ms. Givhan (or Mr. Givhan, I don't follow the "fashion columns" I'm too busy shopping at WalMart) is certainly no flack for the VRWC, and last I looked, while just a tad to the right of the NYT, the WaPo is firmly entrenched in the Clinton's camp. (It should be noted that, at the height of power of the Soviet Union, Pravda was a tad to the right of the NYT)
Two more things. First, you've been here for two weeks. One would have thought that a person with your level of class and quality would have figured out that Red State is a threaded commentary blog and that the "Reply To This" link in the blue bar at the bottom of each comment was there for a reason. Obviously, I've been bitten by that old "assumption" thing again. Try to make the most of your public school education, figure out how to use the links.
Second, some of us crusty old farts really don't like whiny, sappy comments. And as a matter of definition for you, your comments here are both whiny and sappy. Please do us a favor. Add some cogent content or go post on a feminist blog.
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A wonderful way to encourage new members to take RS seriously...
"Bugger off"
Personal attacks and name-calling are used by people who have run out of meaningful things to say.
With that, I'll leave you to enjoy your weekend and stay out of this discussion.
before you come back be sure to look up "personal attack" and "name-calling" and then read your post. That is the only place you will find either.
BTW, the fact that you are here shows you take us seriously. Whether or not we take you seriously is what you should be concerned about.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
but highly selective and I dare say self centered.
Before you bid us adieu, and as one who knows, would you grace us with an explanation as to just how liberals can ladle out insults, if not filth, but remain so tender and sensitive to their own feelings? Would not a normal adult expect something back similar to what they joyously extend to others?
It's just that it seems so endemic, the sarcasm and character assassination quickly turned to childish innocence, prickly self regard and tender feelings. It couldn't be a deep rooted, enduring hatred could it?
Joanna, close your eyes and imagine Hillary in a skimpy string bikini. Luscious, just luscious.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
to figure out the "Reply To This" button at the bottom of every post? This, by the way, is the number one way of identifying new STUPID liberal trolls!
OK, let's go, move along, nothing to see here. Keep moving.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
no matter what Hillary does she is an unattractive woman and the ugliness is much clearer when she opens her mouth....She is the ultimate ugly duckling inside and out, which would explain Bill's having to find satisfaction elsewhere. I as a woman find nothing wrong in picking this socialist loving smear queen apart. This is what weekends should be about having a good time with good friends "exposing" the ugliness of the left:-)
to the previous charge that she is masculine. By showing cleavage, Clinton demonstrates her femininity.
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interior offensive linemen and all of the defensive linemen in the NFL are "feminine"? 'Cause frankly, from what I've seen they've got more cleavage than Hilebeast.
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But I do find it more than coincidental that she shows cleavage for the first time that I can remember days after being called a man.
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Who knew the seasons when to take
Occasion by the hand, and make
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Where do I begin? That once again the Wash Post and its fashion writer Robin Givhan bring politics to fashion? Remember her hit pieces on Chief Justice Roberts' wife and children (comparing them to Easter egg colors)? Or on Katherine Harris, Dick Cheney, etc?
The real point -- Clinton Inc. is in high gear!!! And its not 2008, yet. On Tuesday 17 July, Elizabeth Edwards comments on whether Hillary is "woman enough" on women's issues. On Thursday 19 July, Bill Clinton is on ABC Good Morning America saying "I don't believe she's being a man ... she's just being a leader." Then, Clinton Inc. drops the boomlet regarding Hillary's tussle with the Pentagon over contingency planning concerning the "Iraq surrender" ... ooops, exit strategy. No doubt to display her leadership style. And then, on Friday 20 July, we get this Wash Post piece highlighting Hillary's feminity via her neckline and cleavage on C-SPAN on Wednesday afternoon (18 July) in rebuttal to Mrs. Edwards' original comment.
Pay attention. Or the Clintons will recapture the White House!
The drag queen thing just isn't working for you, dear. If you want to pull this look off, I suggest you check with Rudy. He not only looked more feminine as a drag queen than you do, he looked like he was enjoying it a whole lot more. And for those who support Rudy, that was not an insult. I'm pretty sure his manliness is not in question.
"The Clintons were never noted for were style, class, or breeding. I have no doubt that at some level Clinton has decided the flappy, shapeless, black pantsuits she's been wearing as her equivalent of a Chairman Mao outfit are going to make her seem frumpy to the electorate."
Classic! It's like George Will writing for Women'sWearDaily.
Superficial interests are always profoundly revealing.
puts this on the site is not to our credit.
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I CA RUMBA could make a guy go blind.....what's next short short skirts showing off her fetlocks ?
I know, a sexist comment....Guilty as charged.
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