Denials Abound
By The Directors Posted in 2008 — Comments (16) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
Be sure to read Mark Hemingway's latest post at National Review.
It's important to keep in mind that the major players, i.e. Gage and TargetPoint, have issued statements denying responsibility for push polling.
A number of us think that, based on campaign trail experience, it is very likely a friend wanting to be helpful made the phone calls. Whether it is a friend of Mitt or Huck or Fred or John, we don't know.
Mark summed up the key point we echo:
The skulduggery of Presidential politics is such that this kind speculation isn't out of bounds for any candidate, including Romney.
While we don't need to or nor should we pile on the Romney camp -- and we think we were clear that we don't hold Mitt Romney responsible for any of this -- we should not be afraid to ask a very plausible question based on, if nothing else, real world experience in politics: did a friend of the candidate hit him in a well meaning but misguided effort to help him?
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I'm sorry, but I don't know who did it. Anything I might add would be idle speculation.
If someone drew some connections and asked me to prove the nature and kind of work my firm was doing with a client - especially beyond the early denial. Seriously, how much more can you say besides having "nothing to do with" the calls?
Mark's a friend, but this story is weak, weak, weak. We all know enough about politics that in a party, a movement, whatever - associations are easy to come by - and they hardly mean guilt by any stretch.
the most level and reasonable approach to this issue I've seen from any of the RedState gurus. As someone who has been ridiculed and labeled a "bot" for finding flaws and leaps of logic in the Directors coverage of this issue, I want to thank you for your measured words.
I understand the simple elegance of it, but you know me well enough to know I can't leave it at just one word.
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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!
1) Mark has ZERO evidence linking TargetPoint to these calls
2) TargetPoint has absolutely denied they had anything to do with the calls
3) As I indicated on Hugh’s show… I asked my source about Gage’s denial. His response: “Yeah, we knew it wasn’t them already.”
No time for a real retraction folks? What is going on here?
How about an apology to Gage & Co?
"We no longer consider it 'apparent' that Gage was responsible."
Had they made such a statement, it would have been an admirable mark of editorial rigor and seriousness. As it is, readers should simply adjust their expectations of Directors statements. They are to be taken as somewhat casual opinion/reporting pieces, albeit by the Directors jointly. I'm fine with that.
Romney drops out of the race and endorses Fred!!!!!
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
I can't believe that Mark actually cites Justin Hart's A Good Schedenfreude Spoiled article in defense of his Romney Push-Polled Himself article. Justin says he began preparing a post titled "Gage Firm: We Did It. Don't Blame Romney" based on a tip that Mark's Monday-morning article would show that Gage conducted the anti-Romney push-polls. That is, Justin prepared his post BEFORE he read Mark's article. Whereas, AFTER he read Mark's story, Justin explains the great feeling of relief he experienced. The blood rushed back into his face, he says, because Mark's article was nothing, "the evidence was scant, the connection pithy."
Mark Hemingway's article was irresponsible. He mused upon an ink blot and what he saw there tells us much more about Mark than it does about Romney, Western Watts, or Target Consulting.
Justin was worried because he heard this was coming from National Review and so expected some real well researched (AND VERIFIED) stuff.
When he saw there was no "smoking gun" he was appropriately relieved.
Jeff Fuller
http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/
See my disclaimer of Romney Support at my blogsite line above (essentially I'm an unpaid grassroots supporter/blogger).
Talk about wanting to savage your own party.
You still obviously think this was done by the GOP side by stating "Whether it is a friend of Mitt or Huck or Fred or John, we don't know." (conveniently leaving out Rudy, eh?) What is your EVIDENCE of such?
Don't you think that the Democratic/liberal 527 that is most likely behind this is just laughing themselves silly over all this "eating our own young" journalism that is occurring?
Jeff Fuller
http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/
See my disclaimer of Romney Support at my blogsite line above (essentially I'm an unpaid grassroots supporter/blogger).
The Directors state: "and we think we were clear that we don't hold Mitt Romney responsible for any of this"
Well, yes and no.
An absolute "yes" technically on never accusing Romney himself of "making the call" (pun intended) on this issue.
But an emphatic "no" on these grounds: y'all and anyone with any political experience know darn well that if Gage had done this as Romney's Chief Strategist that it would have been absolutely crippling to his campaign showing a "lack of institutional control" and bringing into question Romney's judgment in selecting such unwise advisers.
To quote your original piece:
Target Point President Alex Gage, the consultant named in the piece, just happens to be serving as Romney's Chief Strategist
You then ramped up the accusations with:
Those kinds of accusations without evidence are un-excusable and embarrassing.
To the Directors I say:
In a campaign where the state of our party is tenuously in flux and where the candidates and their campaigns have been respected by the overwhelming majority of conservative journalists and bloggers, you've managed to create out of thin air the kind of self-sabotage and bias that displays the worst of journalism and conservatism. Nice strategy, folks. I hope you're happy.
Jeff Fuller
http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/
See my disclaimer of Romney Support at my blogsite line above (essentially I'm an unpaid grassroots supporter/blogger).

We can engage in all kinds of hypothetical assk scratching. But we don't have enough information to know if the people behind the phone calls were supporters of Huckabee, Giuliani, Thompson, McCain, Romney, Obama, Clinton, Edwards.
And let's not leave out Vladmir Putin or Nicolas Sarkozy either.
Doesn't Hemmingway have some hard news to report on? Or has he been demoted to NRO's gossip section?