Either Obama is full of it, or he is ineffectual and weak

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There is a pattern out there. Jim Webb, Jay Rockefeller, Rand Beers, Wesley Clark, Tom Harkin, and a host of others are trying to discredit John McCain's most natural strength, at least a strength that polls very well.

All are making the case that because McCain was a prisoner of war and missed out on the action in Vietnam he really has no military experience to make himself competent in that arena.

Clark is a campaign surrogate for Obama. Rand Beers is an advisor. The others support Obama and are in various ways connected to the campaign.

I am not going to express outrage at the Obama campaign. This can be no surprise to any of us. The man is a compulsive befriender of dirtbags. His campaign excels at having dirtbag surrogates.

Likewise, Obama has no core principles. That the man had to give a speech defending his patriotism is generally proof that most most people recognize he has no patriotism except as a matter of convenience. His whole goal is to get elected President. He will say, do, and lie about anything to get there. It is his ambition. Just as his need to take issue against his country helped him with the far left voters who first sent him into office in Illinois, now he needs to embrace his country in toto to get to the next office.

We cannot be surprised at this.

But we can point something out.

When Obama said the Democrats would no longer take lobbyist money, the DCCC ignored him. The DNC itself is using lobbyist money to pay for its convention in total defiance of Barack Obama's orders.

Therefore, in this case, we are left with only two conclusions. Either this effort to diminish John McCain's service in the military is an intentional, willful strategy of the Obama campaign using surrogates while purportedly giving Obama plausible deniability, or Obama cannot tell them to stop because he is too weak and ineffectual for anyone in his party to take him seriously enough to listen to him.

The first is a disgusting trait of his character that should give one pause if they wish to vote for him. It is also, given what we already know about Obama, the most likely conclusion.

The second is a sign that in office, Obama would be a figurehead unable to stop or influence the leftists he would no doubt bring into office with him. The claims of moderate policy he wants would be ignored in favor of the radical advancement of liberalism his core supporters demand.

Either case makes Obama a bad choice for President.


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He is full of it and he is ineffectual and weak in office.
But he is a wicked vicious machine politician whose specialty is to have his machine kneecap his opposition early so he does not actually have a series campaign.
His proxies- Webb, the hack ex-Republican, Clark, the Orwellian ex-general, Harkin, the vet who lies about his record, are simply trying to end this early. They know Obama's chances of keeping his Obamaton cult inatct through November in a real campaign is nil.
What they have succeeded in doing so far is to slink in the idea that Obama's public service record is not the issue.
We need to make sure that Obama's record and who supports him is - at it should be- the real issue.

Volunteer
"Therefore, in this case, we are left with only two conclusions. Either this effort to diminish John McCain's service in the military is an intentional, willful strategy of the Obama campaign using surrogates while purportedly giving Obama plausible deniability, or Obama cannot tell them to stop because he is too weak and ineffectual for anyone in his party to take him seriously enough to listen to him.
The first is a disgusting trait of his character that should give one pause if they wish to vote for him. It is also, given what we already know about Obama, the most likely conclusion.
The second is a sign that in office, Obama would be a figurehead unable to stop or influence the leftists he would no doubt bring into office with him. The claims of moderate policy he wants would be ignored in favor of the radical advancement of liberalism his core supporters demand.
Erik:
1. Your post is excellent, concise, to the point and readable.
My opine.
Obama is a figurehead. Controlled and directed by his handlers from the Shadow Party Left. Obama has to parrot almost exactly the words written and posted for him or he gets into trouble immedicately.
The current broohaha over the McCan abilities is a tactic straight out of the Soviet Playbook, smear your enemy and take no prisioners in the political games.
In office, Obama will occupy the Seat in the Oval Office. The Sofa Sitters will be his controllers, handlers, otherwise known as the Shadow Party elites.
OK, given that we agree, what to do.
A> This medium, the Net is becoming the only source of verifiable data to counter the MSS and the Lefts control.
B. Post and link VERIFIED data re Obama to as many sites that will accept your efforts.
C. R and D in DEPTH. Peel the onion. Don't buy the rants. Seek the in depth, buried data, history and resources.
Be strong. We, Conservatives, Old line warriors, may get tired, but let tell you a story.
Yesterday, I watched a parade of WW2, Korean, Viet Nam, Cold War vets. They were all white haired, some bent, some on wheelers. They all had the same look. This USA will not fall. If called, they will serve. Steady on, undeterred in their eyes, they epitomize the effort that this electorate has at its core.
We can and must defeat this effort of the Left to assume the power they have been so long denied.
end

Volunteer, You are exactly right. I could not believe that the liberals would again try the same tactics they used before, with the alternative media around, but they have. Conservatives may not agree with McCain on every issue, but we all need to know where McCain stands. This will put Obama in a new light as more lies surface about other policy issues McCain has taken. The lie I saw that McCain had no energy efficiency policy was the last straw, and just because the print on Obama's website is smaller now, doesn't mean I'll stop reading it.

A week ago, on Obama's website there was a table claiming that McCain had no energy efficiency policy. It has since been moved, and Obama was forced to admit McCain had an energy efficiency policy and alternative energy policy. Since websites are updated daily, it is up to us to compare the two campaign's websites daily to refute any other misinformation from Obama's campaign. Up until last week, I really had no ill feelings towards Obama personally(just didn't share his vision for America).

Here is the lying Obama website link, and it is IN SMALLER PRINT, now, but it says the exact same thing, that McCain has no energy efficiency plan. Uh. . . making the print smaller does not make it any less readable to McCain supporters.

THE LIES:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/newenergy

THE TRUTH!: McCain does have an energy efficiency policy, to make the grid more effective, to make federal buildings more energy efficient, and monitoring energy use to see where the grid is inefficient. There is much more, but this is most impressive to me. You may disagree with the whole concept of conservation, but the main point here is OBAMA's WEB SITE IS LYING!!!Still lying, even after Obama admitted the truth!

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/17671aa4-2fe8-4008-859f-0ef14...

Conservatives-know what is at stake here.

This will be confirmed when Weird Wesley disappears from the public eye in the near future.

So he has no choice but to attempt nullification of his opponents positive qualities.

The problem is our candidate is unwilling to punch back and he has had people in his organization that are public supporters of Obama. We need better from McCain.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Conventional Wisdom says to hit back hard and fast. But that's based on false lessons the left and media drew from the Kerry campaign. In their narrative, various attacks against Kerry were successful because he did not forcefully respond in kind. But they miss the point; the attacks against Kerry were successful mainly because they were rooted in truth. The Dems tried to take a leader of the Jane Fonda traitor circle and remake him as bold war leader, and got called on it. The truth hurts, no matter how hard you counterpunch.

By contrast, McCain's heroic service record has been a well know matter of public record for decades. Attacking his service background does nothing but make the attacker look foolish. Look at what a clown Wes Clark looked like. People are not stupid. The media are not stupid. They recognize blatant BS when they see it.

In this instance it may very well serve McCain to violate the CW and take the high road for as long as possible. When he finally does get dragged into the knife fight in a phone booth, it will be very easy to point out that he was in fact dragged there by a long string of dishonest attacks by Obama. That's the essential Ju Jitsu that Obama played on Hillary in the primaries.

"If all men were just, there would be no need of valor."
- Agesilaus

It's a wasted opportunity.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

This is the exact thing the dems did with George W. Bush; take his perceived strength (in W's case, his reputation as a man of his word, and honest) and attack it constantly. With the help of a left wing media, the left's attacks soon become "conventional wisdom".
At some point, the republicans are going to have to run a campaign with as much nastiness as they will be accused of anyway.

McCain's campaign can do whatever it wishes, of course, but that doesn't mean Republicans in general have to follow suit. Obama isn't fit for office, doesn't have the experience or qualifications to be president, and is on the Far Left fringes of American politics. If he does limp to the Oval Office, he needs to be so crippled from day one he cannot implement policies that would destroy the United States. That can be achieved. Heck, McCain even can win. The question is whether he really will do what it takes.

he's a liar as well.


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Obama's word is not worth the Teleprompter they're printed on. Liar Liar Pants on Fire!!

McCain and his campaign better recognize the tactics that are being employed against him. This isn't the time for low-key, quiet campaigning. The McCain Camp doesn't so much need to rebuff these remarks about his military service, they need to use this as an opening to actually discuss his record, his experiences and how those have influenced his life and politics.

This issue proves, yet again, how unprepared and untested the Obama campaign is. Why bring McCain's military service into question at all? The less it's brought up, the less average folks will think about it. All this has done, and will do, is make people upset and angry.

McCain needs a Ronald Reagan moment. I doubt it will happen, because McCain wants to play nice. But, this isn't the time for nice. You don't have to get nasty and dirty, but you have to be willing to hit back.

I don't think a town hall meeting would work as well, but in a stump speech, McCain needs to lay it out there: I proudly served; I flew 23 missions; I survived 5-yrs as a POW; I was in charge of training this flight group; all of it. And, he shouldn't just rattle it off, but make it personal, because it is and was. At the end, he needs to end it with this: To Senator Obama, I ask you, what have you done for this country?

So he doesn't wear a flag pin? So he doesn't put his hand on his heart during the national anthem? So he thinks we have 57 states? So he's friendly with an unrepentant terrorist? So his wife admits she's never been proud of her country until her husband began to win primaries? So his minister screams "Godd*** America" and claims the U.S. government invented AIDS? So he wants to get all chummy with America's enemies? So he wants to pull out of Iraq without regard for whether we win or not? So his childhood mentor was a known Communist? So he is in favor of granting terrorists, including bin Laden, full rights in American courts?

I mean you guys are really nitpicking here! Stop the unfair criticisms of Obama, please!!!

has done a dumb thing. As others on this site said yesterday, 'I'm fully engaged as a McCain supporter as of today.'

Last night, Mark Levin announced that he *is* going to vote for John McCain. It is not a coincidence he made this decision yesterday. The scales are falling from a lot of eyes, and John McCain can thank his opponents' stupidity in large part.

The free exchange of ideas inevitably yields both heat and light.

It's a shame, this could have been such a good election, driven by town hall meetings and issues. All Obama had to do was accept McCain's offer. He's young and a good talker, I think he would have done well, if he wasn't such a coward. Instead we end up with this BS.

I lean towards the "ineffectual and weak" explanation for all of this. The Dems want payback for the Swiftboat affair. I don't think it will work because McCain is the kind of guy who you would figure for ex-military even if he didn't say anything. The Swiftboat stuff worked on Kerry because he came over as a rich snowboarding windsurfing playboy.

I think that trustworthiness would be a good issue to hit Obama on. Look at how fast he is selling out his own people. Maybe suggest that he doesn't know what he believes. He's flipped on so many issues it is getting hard to tell.

Perhaps the reason that he was never able to make the sale with the Hillary supporter is that he reminded too many people of those guys down at the car dealership. The ones who never saw a car they wouldn't sell to you.

 
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