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By Erick Posted in 2008 — Comments (28) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
If we believe this news, and there is no reason we shouldn't because Jackie Calmes generally does a good job, we might be able to put the lid on Barack Obama's campaign coffin.
Democrats expect Sen. Obama's progress to stall until some fence-sitters see how their constituents react to his attempts to soothe racial tension. In his speech, the senator condemned the minister's views without renouncing him, and, as someone who is biracial, sought to explain the resentments of blacks and whites to the other.
It's not a secret that the Democrats are ready to move beyond Clinton. Many of them think that Barack Obama could be the real Reagan of the Democratic Party, moving the nation to the left in a way that is palatable to the public. Some Republicans want Obama as the Democratic nominee because they view him as more dangerous long term to the nation and want to finish him off now.
Nonetheless, because of the Clintons effective deployment of the race card within the Democratic Primary, super delegates are getting nervous. They know they were put in place to avoid the party going far left. And they are worried that Obama, the unknown quantity, could be painted as far left by the GOP. The Democrats want to win this year, and, at the end of the day, they'd rather go with the known quantity with a history of winning.
As Michael Goldfarb wrote at the Weekly Standard's blog
What if I told you in 2004 that the Democratic party would run an African American candidate for president in 2008? I tell you National Journal will officially label this candidate the most liberal member of the United States Senate. This candidate will also have served less than three years in that Senate, with no executive, foreign policy, or military experience. Then I tell you that this candidate will lose the party's primaries in Texas, California, New York, Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania. Oh, and his minister sounds like Louis Farrakhan, and actually pals around and gives awards to Farrakhan.
The Democrats want to win. If the super delegates can't get to the White House with Obama, they will throw him under the bus faster than he threw his grandmother under the bus -- damn the popular vote in the primaries.
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...however I still want Hillary because her getting the nomination would fracture the party, drive off independents, and increase the GOP's chances in congressional races.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
Hil right now scares me....BHO has huge issues ahead, and I do not think he is capable of addressing them.
" Got to love the Lord for making things like that."
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was the scene from Trading Places...
" Got to love the Lord for making things like that."
Morally Compromised
Can you say taxpayer funded government healthcare? If this new rail appears we will never be rid of it. And Hillary seems far more behind this project than Obama.
Erik
On the one hand we have Scotus and the war
On the other we have an economy that may very well tank.
We could win achieve some of our goals but render ourselves irrelevant all at the same time.
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...and salvages Iraq, but the economy tanks, the public will then blame the GOP and it will put us out of power for several cycles?
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
If we win poorly and the economy is real bad or bad enough for the MSM to make it awful
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Based on what I've been perusing (yes, I visit the other side often to see their point of view), a Hillary nomination will likely split the far left from the center left. The communists/socialists will feel abandoned if the Superdelegates go to Clinton. Most that I've seen appear they are all for Obama. In fact, it looks like the K group have eliminated almost all positive speech on behalf of Clinton - they have pushed those people off to other blogs...calling Hillary supporters trolls. Interesting.
Erik
I think the same "What if" litany could be brought against McCain, this year all bets are off. Everyone seems to have to make choices they never thought they could imagine. If you had told me in 2000 that Bush would one day endorse John McCain I would have been just as surprised. Obama's support shows that some numbers don't care about experience and perhaps are very mistrustful of it. Which is why I hope that McCain picks a beltway outsider.
if the Florida/Michigan situation will fully blow up. If they really don't seat those delegates, or if Hillary wins them, you'll see fireworks.
Fun!
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I think this misses the point. This isn't about racial tensions. It's about the odious views of Obama's pastor, both anti-American and anti-white.
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Each passing week for the Democrat primary brings more srutiny, offers more opportunities for "blow-ups" and increases the canabalism tactis of both candidates. We're seeing the polls change because of it.
McCain is slowly building a coalition of Independents, Democrats and Republicans. With Obama's woefully painful situation, McCain will begin taking chunks out of Obama's independent base. It's working folks.
The Partisan Report,
www.partisanreport.com
and Clinton is the nominee, I think you will see a significant portion of the black vote sit out the general election in November. Either way, I see it as a lose-lose situation for the dems.
If Obama is the nominee, McCain will find many of those southern, white democrats back in the fold for Republicans, with the consequence that Obama has little chance of picking up any southern states.
And I don't see him taking a state such as Michigan this time around, either. There will be no Ohio battleground to worry about.
That's how it looks today, but who knows? Tomorrow McCain could stub his toe and all bets would be off.
One can make an equally strong case for EITHER Obamboozler or Clinton being the weaker candidate for McCain.
Do the "youth vote" numbers outweigh the Latinos who won't vote for Obama? Or do the Jews who love Hillary outweigh the independents for Obama?
I think our best bet is to keep them at each other's throats for as long as possible and get it to where either one can be beaten..
Obama is Jimmy Carter- only without the sweater.
"Speaking of the race speech from Tuesday, Obama supporter John Kerry gave an interview with a local N.H. paper, reports NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli. In it, Kerry said the color of Obama's skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world. During an interview with the New Bedford Standard Times, portions of which were posted on YouTube, John Kerry says bluntly that Barack Obama has the potential to "bridge the divide in religious extremism" because he is black...."
Here's the youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vASmAfrBSs&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/...
Is this guy the most idiotic politician in American History? When will Obama call him out?
Sigh.
Looks like we'll have to fight the Clintons anyway. If only she'd dropped out earlier.
There is no doubt, she'll be a much stronger candidate in a General Election. With her OH, PA, MO, KY and FL are all in play. Obama would never have been competative in all of those, probably just the one or two.
whether they want to lose the 2008 Presdiential election by nominating Obama, or whether they want to lose their electoral coalition for the foreseeable future by nominating clinton, who might or might not win. Quite the dilemma for these geniuses!
I still think they will go with Obama, as they went for McGovern in 1972. They had to know he would lose but they did not want to split the party. They took the short-term loss. I don't think they understand the magnitude of the defeat Obama would give them, but they will in six months.
Hillary would do better against McCain, but she too is a weak candidate, about half the country will not vote for her (many of them Democrats) and she cannot win without the large turnout of African Americans.
It's truly amazing that the Dems can lose this election, given their advantages -- a ten-point lead in party preference, unpopular war, recession, unsuccessful Presidency -- yet they are going to lose.
As the Rev Wright would say -- their chickens are coming home to roost!
and vote for Obama here in Oregon to keep this thing going?
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
ABC News. On "Good Morning, America" just a few minutes ago, I watched Jake Tappert doing his darndest to drive the nail's into Hillary's campaign coffin with Matthew Dowd's help. We can't be lucky enough to bury both of them simultaneously, can we? Hmmmm--now where did I put those wooden stakes?