Hillary's Al Gore Problem
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One of the traits of Dem politicians with a tissue thin resume is the willingness to lie about what they have accomplished and the expectation that we will believe it.
Now Nobel laureate and former Northern Ireland First Minister David Trimble has called Hillary out on her grotesque inflation of her role in negotiating the Good Friday Agreement.
Central to Mrs Clinton’s claim of an important Northern Ireland role is a meeting she attended in Belfast in with a group of women from cross-community groups. "I actually went to Northern Ireland more than my husband did," she said in Nashua, New Hampshire on January 6th.
"I remember a meeting that I pulled together in Belfast, in the town hall there, bringing together for the first time Catholics and Protestants from both traditions, having them sitting a room where they had never been before with each other because they don’t go to school together, they don’t live together and it was only in large measure because I really asked them to come that they were there.
"And I wasn’t sure it was going to be very successful and finally a Catholic woman on one side of the table said, ’You know, every time my husband leaves for work in the morning I worry he won’t come home at night.
"And then a Protestant woman on the other side said, ’Every time my son tries to go out at night I worry he won’t come home again’. And suddenly instead of seeing each other as caricatures and stereotypes they saw each other as human beings and the slow, hard work of peace-making could move forward."
There is no record of a meeting at Belfast City Hall, though Mrs Clinton attended a ceremony there when her husband turned on the Christmas tree lights in November 1995.
To which Lord Trimble says: "I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around[.]"
In other words, she has the same experience negotiating the GFA as she has answering the "3 AM" phone calls. None.
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for letting Osama Bin Laden get away.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
But given the very informal sound of the meeting that she described, what kind of "record" would you expect to find?
No doubt she could be inflating the significance of whatever discussion occurred re: the GFA, but I just don't see any way you could ever prove that there was no such meeting.
Plenty of other things to criticize in her actual resume . . . let's move along now.
BRASSBAND77
But given the very informal sound of the meeting that she described, just what impact on the peace process could such a fairytale meeting have had?
My sentence makes as much sense as your sentence.
You're right, it's tough to prove a negative like that.
Honestly, though, my gut reaction of skepticism sprung from the hubris in claiming that she called a meeting, "bringing together for the first time Catholics and Protestants...and it was only in large measure because I really asked them to come that they were there."
Fine: she may have had a meeting, but to claim that her meetings were anything like the "first time" Catholics and Protestants met, and it was only because of her "really asking them" really stretches the bounds of credulity. In the 800+ years of Irish-English tensions I really find it hard to accept that all they were lacking was an earnest invitation from Hillary! to move toward the lion laying down with the lamb.
"bringing together for the first time Catholics
and Protestants...and it was only in large measure because I really asked them to come that they were there."
Riddle me this. Why would Lord Trimble go out on a limb, by going public with this, if this meeting had indeed occurred, in some way/shape/form? The Dem-loving US and UK press would have a field day with him.
Hillary can have a field day with him, too. Show Secret Service records, proving that they accompanied her to this meeting. Surely there are WH records that mention who/how many attended such an important meeting as this one, a "cornerstone" on the path to the Good Friday Agreement.
Perhaps BrassBand77 is hoping to stifle a conversation that Team Clinton prefers that we not have.
Hmmm.
"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)
the Clintons would really like to make them available to othe public but you know how slow a bureaucracy works in getting information out. It's probably Pres Bush's fault.
Ein troll for Las Clintonistas?
ROTFL!
BRASSBAND77
that if the First Lady held such a meeting that reduced the audience to tears, or whatever, that the local press would have reported it. So you may find the absence of a record unconvincing but the rest of us don't live in a universe where those types of meetings happen.
And, of course, you can feel free to pooh-pooh Lord Trimble's comment.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
reference to the press.
I have been involved in a couple of causes over the years, and whenever an event was to take place, a number of news media was always invited. If a TV station or newspaper deems something newsworthy, they send a reporter.
I can't believe that the First Lady of the United States would not have received constant coverage - especially when two long time adversaries are brought together by her.
Than for Hillary's accomplishments ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
Probably for the same reason that you can go and see Roman concrete still standing (and often still in use) after 2000+ years - and then you can go see Soviet concrete that is well-crumbling after not even 25 years....
There's not much more pathetic than you mobies/trolls/retards popping up every time that something else is posted on Hillobama and whining that we should focus on something else.
Sorry, Charlie. Go Away if you don't like it; we certainly won't miss you for even a second here.
No, of course her claims, even if they carry a kernel of truth, are way, way exaggerated.
My point is: Why try to prove a negative (e.g., there is no record of a meeting) when someone could potentially produce a photo that shows that the meeting occurred and then the credibility pendulum swings back to Sen. Clinton's favor?
Makes much more sense to criticize her comments for the obvious puffery.
BRASSBAND77
Clinton asserts she was a key enabler of peace in Northern Ireland. Trimble's article de facto challenges her to show proof.
Fine. Let her show proof, of her centrality to peace in Northern Ireland.
Let's not help the lady off her precarious perch on this limb, to which Trimble might just have alerted all of us.
"Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?" (Macaulay)
Hmm, this isn't her first foray into Walter-Mitty-land.
Remember when she said that her parents named her after Sir Edmund Hillary?
for the Commerce Department waivers that allowed Loral Space & Communications to share satellite technology with China.
While she's at it, Sen. Clinton can explain whether, or not, the massive influx of money from Chinese surrogates played any part in overriding the concerns expressed by the Justice Department and the Department of Defense.
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“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan
her experience:
That she helped Gore develop the plan to propagandize the meteorological industry into becoming AGW alarmists and that she deserves a share of the Nobel Peace Prize.
The self-absorption and inflated sense of her role is only going to diminish her further.