It lacked only this.

You ever watch a *real* fencing match?

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Not that stylized stuff that they show at the Olympics. Not even the limited-contact bouts that they do in the historical reenactment societies; I'm talking about old-school, full-contact, Italian Renaissance fencing. Bouts of that often ended with both fighters on the floor grappling each other and trying to pull knives.

HuffPo is looking for its knife.

At a small closed-door fundraiser after Super Tuesday, Sen. Hillary Clinton blamed what she called the "activist base" of the Democratic Party -- and MoveOn.org in particular -- for many of her electoral defeats, saying activists had "flooded" state caucuses and "intimidated" her supporters, according to an audio recording of the event obtained by The Huffington Post.

"Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] -- which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down," Clinton said to a meeting of donors. "We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me."

(H/T: Hot Air)

Read on... after you read Byron York's old post on Rove, MoveOn.org, and why the latter is full of it when it piously claims that it never, ever opposed the war in Afghanistan. That little lie of theirs is not really important to this post, but I thought that it probably should have been at least noted for the BS that it was.

OK, now read on.

Karl over at Protein Wisdom thinks that this is just HuffPo trying to find some sort of atonement for their awful sin of reporting something that Senator Obama said that he would had never, ever dared say in public. This is very likely true, although I suspect that another part of it is merely that the progressives are finally boiling over about the utterly cynical way that the mainline Democratic establishment uses them on a regular basis. It's no secret that the activists are barely tolerated by the professional Democratic politicians; they're lucky to get lip service on the issues that matter most to them. It's just Clinton's luck that they've finally gotten tired of it in an election year.

Whether it's good or bad luck depends on what goes down in the end. Over at Open Left Chris Bowers has started to gently prepare the Online Left to the inconvenient truth that, hey, they're going to seat Michigan and Florida after all, and as-is (via Protein Wisdom). If that happens - and, as Bower notes, Obama's trolling for the MI uncommitted delegates, which suggests that it's at least plausible - then roughly two metric tons of commentary, punditry, vitriol, and associated nonsense about the campaign to date suddenly becomes obsolete*. People are now starting to talk about June being the stopping point of this campaign, which means another month of full-contact press for the Democrats... and there's no reassurance for them that they'll be able to finish this off then, either.

Hence, HuffPo's pulling out a knife. Because the people who run this site understand something: they know, in the bone, that if Hillary Clinton becomes President of the United States of America she will make absolutely certain that every group that impeded her acquisition of the nomination will pay for their presumption. I'm fine, amusingly enough: so is the rest of the VRWC. She needs us to be the opposition. She doesn't need heretics.

So if she gets the nod in Denver... pray for a McCain victory, ye Leftists. Pray most diligently, to whichever god you might think would be inclined to listen.

Moe Lane

*No, that's actually a very large number: 99% of that two tons is comprised of photons, after all**.

**I never said that I was a scientist. Math is hard.

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The dark miasma that is the current Democratic party. And just like when you turn on any other light the roaches are running for cover.

The are finally receiving the revelation they hate the Clinton's as much as everybody else. The online left is learning they are sitting at the children's table. Even Mrs. Sheehan found she was only tolerated while cute and amusing.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

I am consistently amazed by the Clinton thought process. Everything bad that happens around them is never their fault. It's a vast right wing conspiracy, not the lies of Bill. It's Moveon.org, not Hillary's fault that she has the personality of a Borg. Sounds like a vast "We Are Victims" consipiracy!

AzRenegade

Honestly, who's going to listen to the Clintons on principles and rational discourse?

"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk

Wasn't MoveOn created to help save B. Clinton from impeachment? Now Hillary is blaming them for her sinking fortunes. Whether or not they really are hurting her candidacy, I am enjoying the irony.

My wife (a full-fledged Obama supporter) told me today that Senator Obama's campaign has done several things:

1. Neuter the Black Democratic Establishment since Obama didn't come through the "traditional" door of black Democrats. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are weirdly silent these days.

2. Kicked off the implosion of the Democratic Party by activating the activists full bore sprinkled liberally with youth energy. They attack the Democratic Establishment as eagerly and dare I say as viciously as they would The Right. Obama is their King and they fiercely loyal to him.

I asked her is that a good thing. She looked withdrawn and just said... no!

I say it was bound to happen this way. McCain is in a much stronger position now even with all of the Republican problems. He can politely use the same Democratic salvos against themselves against them. If Obama was running against any other Democrat, we wouldn't be talking about this. But there are forces in the Dems that want "all things Clinton" purged.

Perhaps dislike is not strong enough, however I had noticed an undercurrent of dislike for the Clintons in many democrats. Howard Dean & John Kerry have not really "liked" the Clintons for a while, & the Obama candidacy has allowed that undercurrent to rise to the surface. Many wanted a better "high water mark" for the democrat party & left than what was given by Bill Clinton, & don't want to see his wife redo that in any way. They want a more pure leftist democrat, & see that in Obama - as well as a way to nullify the Clintons.

 
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