John McCain Executes A Reverse Chickenhawk

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I'm on record with my estimation of Barack Obama as a lightweight attempting, and failing, to punch way above his weight.

If there was ever any doubt, the mauling he took at the hands of John McCain over the Iraq supplemental removed it.

Read on.

“This vote may win favor with MoveOn and liberal primary voters, but it’s the equivalent of waving a white flag to al Qaeda,” McCain said, regarding the vote of his Democratic opponents.

Unfortunately, Obama should have heeded Jacques Chirac's advice, he missed a great opportunity to shut up.

“And if there ever was a reflection of that it's the fact that Senator McCain required a flack jacket, 10 armored Humvees, two Apache attack helicopters, and 100 soldiers with rifles by his side to stroll through a market in Baghdad just a few weeks ago,” Obama said in a statement.

Setting up a classic reverse Chickenhawk:

“While Senator Obama’s two years in the U.S. Senate certainly entitle him to vote against funding our troops, my service and experience combined with conversations with military leaders on the ground in Iraq lead me to believe that we must give this new strategy a chance to succeed because the consequences of failure would be catastrophic to our nation's security,” McCain said.

Followed up by a swift kick to the fourth point of contact.

“By the way, Senator Obama, it’s a ‘flak’ jacket, not a ‘flack’ jacket,” McCain said.

I think McCain is 4-6 years past his prime but in the words of Toby Keith:

I ain't as good as I once was
But I'm as good once as I ever was

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...and a McCain aid pulled the sheet over Obama with...

"Obama wouldn't know the difference between an RPG and a bong."

See... I told you guys...
Fred's hilarious response to Michael Moore.
Boehner's emotional plea on the senate floor.
McCain smacking that cocky/way too full of himself grin off Obama's face...

I'm telling you... The tide is turning. Republicans are getting out of their rut and back in the groove...

You'll see!

"Even when you fall on your face, you're still moving forward."

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

And see if there is an apology given for the bong remark. I hope not.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

The MSM is already trying spin it as bomb not bong.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

There are several days out of any given year in which I am willing to count myself as a member of the McCain fan club.
Today is one such day.

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

nice start to the weekend.
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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison

...Okay, put on your imagination hat and try and picture the following people, each addressing navy sailors on an aircraft carrier, marines in a mess hall in Kuwait and soldiers on a tarmac in South Korea.

Barack Obama - Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces

Hillary Clinton - Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces

John Edwards - Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces

Mitt Romney - Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces

John McCain - Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces

Rudy Giuliani - Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces

Fred Thompson - Commander in Chief of American Armed Forces

Okay....who fits the picture, the mindset...and who doesn't ??!

Is it just a rumor or did McCain also say "Obama doesn't know a bazooka from a bong".

Chalk one up for McCain. Frat boy Obama needs to spend more time in the library researching military terminology, apparently.

and i doubt he rights his own releases

...it's when he speaks that it's a problem:

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed."

Twelve or 10,000, same deal, right?

Of course, when Dan Quayle added an "e" to "potato", now that was a telling character flaw...

FLAK is the German acronym for an anti-aircraft gun, which threw explosives and large chunks of metal in the air which came to be referred to by American fliers as FLAK. The British seem to have preferred ack-ack, and Triple A, as in anti-aircraft artillery - the English version of the German term, seems to be the common modern equivalent. The word came from the military into civilian parlance to mean anything being thrown up to damage or distract. The term "flack" may have derived from FLAK, my Webster's gives no origin but says so, but is univerally a person, not a thing. So, I submit that proper usage might be something like "a flack is someone who thows out something called flak."

In Vino Veritas

will say or could say that would even for a minute make me like him, I think he has fractured the Republican Party in a way that will hurt for a long time to come and for that I have no nice thoughts for him. I will say that Obama has only received the attention he has because of his color and nothing he stands for, he is the most intellectually repugnant individual I have ever seen be in the position he is at this time and I know that by October he will be history just like the Howard Dean type candidate that he is. He is all fluff and no substance and if he were white he would not have gotten a dime from anyone. I wish if we had to make a decision on a first serious black candidate that it could be Thomas Sowell or even Colin Powell or a two for one woman/black Ms. Rice. I really think a black could be elected however Barack Hussein Obama is not that person.

I will say that Obama has only received the attention he has because of his color and nothing he stands for

I object to the idea that the press is in love with Obama simply because he's a black politician.

They're in love with him because he's the fist black politician who is liberal and isn't completely bugnutz. Let's face it, next to Jackson and Sharpton, Obama comes off looking like James Bond.

We saw the same thing out here in Minnesota; after 6 years of Jessie "The Governor" Ventura, the only way the new governor could have dissapointed us would be if he wet himself in public. Heck, to come off as a dissapointment after Jesse, he'd pretty much have had to wet the guy standing next him.

As for what Obama stands for, I'd have to say...ummm, what DOES he stand for????

Looks like someone needs a dictionary, and it's not Obama.

Main Entry:
flack: variant of flak
http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

probably because its a WWII term.

ref: Flieger abwehr kanone

Referring originally to a particular German Weapon.

You'd probably buy a Flack Jacket from Brooks Brothers.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Your mirriam webster link refers you to flak jacket when you enter Flack Jacket.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

And if flak the same thing as flack, then a flak jacket is a flack jacket.

Main Entry:
flak Listen to the pronunciation of flak
Variant(s):
also flack \ˈflak\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural flak also flack

would not be a sadness wrap.

One is a butterfly the other is just stupid.

You can't substitute synonyms for parts of proper names.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

I wonder if Mr. Obama-mama could help me with my spelling.

Was it bong....or Bong....how did he spell it in his book where he talks about his dope doing daze?
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Fred...Fred...Fred..!

DoD makes mistakes on captions. I've called them twice to correct captions on DefendAmerica which, I will add, they did.

Illiteracy is a nonpartisan affair.

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling

It allowed me to find out the truth about the word flack.

If you can't be bothered to do your own thinking, provide links to the people doing your thinking for you. There's no point in arguing with the telephone, after all.

Thanks in advance.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

In the military, it is a FLAK JACKET. Period, bottom line, end o' story.

Sorry, you and media matters are incorrect, as is Mr. Hussein Obama.

You know he's just going to go back to the site and cut-n-paste one of the other examples that MM went spelunking for.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

But after the latest I would be willing to bet he is franticly googling for something that says you can use flack jacket.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

"The Department of Defense was wrong".

They are just 6 words.

Seeing as I used to work for a defense contractor. I have said those words many times. Matter of fact I have said things about them that are entirely unprintable. Especially concerning target acquisition in fire and forget versions of some of our missiles.

Whats your point ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/newsphoto.aspx?newsphotoid=1530

And if you were paying attention to the whole read, I would not have had to post this message twice.
Would you like me to show you how many times the Army Times has used "flack jacket" as well?

What you found was a website that desperately wanted to defuse a meme before it took hold. MM conflated the fact flak has a common usage synonym that was not valid in specialized use with the fact they were also homophones.

The word is Flak Jacket. Its a proper name.
You can't make it Shrapnel coat.
You can't make it Flak Jerkin.
You can't even make fliegel Abwehr Kanone Jacket.

The language is english, learn it. (thats do as I say advice btw)
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

What did you said about the Department of Defense? The part about the meme...I didn't understand.
Please tell me why the Department of defense used the compound name "flack jacket".

Try because they sound alike.

Your own source is discredited and now you need spelling errors to back up your points ?

Mr. Emanuel is correct you are either a tool or on a personal mission.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

It's funny that the Dept. of Defense has made that error 21 times in its website. They should fire whoever is typing these transcript, along with the dude from the Army. Wait...Did I not link to the army instances of 'flack jacket'?

http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=27826

Children also wore a flack jacket used against shrapnel caused by explosions from an attack.

When I said you'd be franticly googling.

Is Obama a relative that he is this important to you ?
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

We're not going to send them into combat without a flack jacket. Why would we send them in without a vaccine if we can save them?

http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=456

Please continue to embarass yourself.

here you go, save on the googling.

http://www.oed.com/

Thats definitive listing of the english language. Go to town. Maybe its there. I haven't bothered to look.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

The more you push on this, the more we get reminded that your side apparently doesn't have a clue to answer the substantive portions of Sen McCain's riposte.

It's hysterical to watch, and I don't even like McCain.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

...and simple. First of all, because someone from the DoD spells a word incorrectly in a caption or an article does not make that incorrect spelling correct. Second of all, you know that the Army Times is not affiliated with the Army and the DoD in any way, right?

Sorry, man. I've seen the word "dialogue" spelled "dialog" plenty of times; it is still incorrect, and I'd laugh out loud at anybody who spelled it the latter way while trying to show their intellectual superiority and fluency with the English language. Ditto "flak" jacket - there is one correct way to do it, and if you're trying to show how hip and smart you are on defense (as Mr. Hussein Obama was), then you'd best not use the incorrect (or colloquial) version. It's a MISTAKE cause by a lack of knowledge; people make them. What's wrong with accepting it and moving on?

Besides, this isn't the first mistake Obama has made in his life, is it? Then why go to the mat on such a dumb point?

Huh?

After a misspelling like that, it's easy to see how Obama hates this country.

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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

I know this is WAY off topic, but doesn't "Flieger abwehr kanone" translate more-or-less to "stuff that flies out of a cannon"?

If you get literal its flying defense gun.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

From Mark Twain's The Awful German Language:

That paragraph furnishes a text for a few remarks about one of the most curious and notable features of my subject -- the length of German words. Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. Observe these examples:

* Freundschaftsbezeigungen.
* Dilettantenaufdringlichkeiten.
* Stadtverordnetenversammlungen.

These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions. And they are not rare; one can open a German newspaper at any time and see them marching majestically across the page -- and if he has any imagination he can see the banners and hear the music, too. They impart a martial thrill to the meekest subject. I take a great interest in these curiosities. Whenever I come across a good one, I stuff it and put it in my museum. In this way I have made quite a valuable collection. When I get duplicates, I exchange with other collectors, and thus increase the variety of my stock. Here are some specimens which I lately bought at an auction sale of the effects of a bankrupt bric-a-brac hunter:

* Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen.
* Alterthumswissenschaften.
* Kinderbewahrungsanstalten.
* Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen.
* Wiedererstellungbestrebungen.
* Waffenstillstandsunterhandlungen.

Of course when one of these grand mountain ranges goes stretching across the printed page, it adorns and ennobles that literary landscape -- but at the same time it is a great distress to the new student, for it blocks up his way; he cannot crawl under it, or climb over it, or tunnel through it. So he resorts to the dictionary for help, but there is no help there. The dictionary must draw the line somewhere -- so it leaves this sort of words out. And it is right, because these long things are hardly legitimate words, but are rather combinations of words, and the inventor of them ought to have been killed. They are compound words with the hyphens left out. The various words used in building them are in the dictionary, but in a very scattered condition; so you can hunt the materials out, one by one, and get at the meaning at last, but it is a tedious and harassing business. I have tried this process upon some of the above examples. "Freundschaftsbezeigungen" seems to be "Friendship demonstrations," which is only a foolish and clumsy way of saying "demonstrations of friendship." "Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen" seems to be "Independencedeclarations," which is no improvement upon "Declarations of Independence," so far as I can see. "Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen" seems to be "General-statesrepresentativesmeetings," as nearly as I can get at it -- a mere rhythmical, gushy euphuism for "meetings of the legislature," I judge. We used to have a good deal of this sort of crime in our literature, but it has gone out now. We used to speak of a things as a "never-to-be-forgotten" circumstance, instead of cramping it into the simple and sufficient word "memorable" and then going calmly about our business as if nothing had happened. In those days we were not content to embalm the thing and bury it decently, we wanted to build a monument over it.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

Actually, "flyer defense gun". But Flieger is sort of a mushy word as far as translation goes - aircraft, pilot, may also be appropriate.

you really ought to check a dictionary before beclowning yourself.

It is and has always been flak because they were developed to protect aircrew from "flak", a German abbreviation for anti-aircraft guns.

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling

I have no respect for McCain behaving this way. Even with his sharp-tongued "argument" (I grit my teeth to give it the honor), McCain has little force because he's marked to lose if he runs against Obama. "Oh, so you're less popular than the youngster you're mocking? No one likes a sore loser."

Maybe Obama can follow up with something about McCain being too old for this job, then McCain can say something about how close Obama's name is to Osama's name, and then we'll be really Presidential.

I expect all these people to be above this petty nonsense... wait a minute. What am I saying? This is politics. I must be out of Kool Aid.

Flack is a variant of the spelling - it isn't entirely incorrect, and even if flak is the preferred spelling, is it really worth attacking someone over something that may have been a mere freudian slip? it happens to the best of us.

McCain whatever you think of him as a politician is career military. For Obama to lecture him and contradict the generals in the field was absurd even by our current standards of discourse. What next is he going to retroactively debate Sherman on the practice of total war ?

The fact that he can't even get the right spelling of Flak Jacket underscores the point. McCain knew where the term came from and why. Obama was blowing hot air.

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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

inadvertently saying "flack" instead of "flak" seems much less egregious than substituting the number 10,000 for 12.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

I can't believe I'm actually contributing to an argument about spelling. Is this what we want our leader of the free world to focus on? As for the bong comment - well - I'm glad Obama took a few hits back in the day. I'd put marijuana on par with beer and also part of the American experience for angst ridden teens - so I say whatever to that.

- The Admiral Holman

Never was about spelling sir. Its always been about a stuffed shirt talking down to those that know better.

The misspelling is just sauce.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

don't usually change the core of a person's original character to any radical extent. They might not be healthy things to ingest but they don't usually take much away from someone's ingrained honesty, if it was present to begin with.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

one is mostly legal and the other is mostly illegal, and choosing to do something that is illegal might reflect on one's "ingrained honesty."

In Vino Veritas

And logs taken out of eyes.

By that token underage drinking is also illegal.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

"a free pass for me but not for thee."

I don't think I could get myself elected to high office because I'd be too honest about myself.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

For most anyone my age the correct answer to "Did you inhale?" is, "Hell yes, and I detest anyone who is such a hypocrite as to have wasted good dope by not inhaling."

I was just pointing out the inconsistency, since law-abiding is seen as integral with honesty. And yes, I understand about under age, that's the reason for the "mostly" qualifier, and where I live, personal use marajuana is also legal under State law, so again, "mostly."

In Vino Veritas

The thing that always bothered me about Clinton wasn't that he tried MJ. He actually expected to buy the line he didn't inhale.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

What was it he said? Something like, "you bet I inhaled, and I enjoyed it." It's not enough to earn him my vote if he runs for president as an independent but it's a refreshing contrast to Bill Clinton's famous statement.

Perhaps in another thread we can explore the topics of bad law and civil disobedience. It might not be fair to villify people who drive faster than the posted speed limit or who bring fireworks across state lines, and those examples might not belong on the same level as other illegal behavior, but that could all make for a rich discussion.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

and it's not good to invite things into one's life that one ever feels a need to lie about. I just don't think it turns otherwise honest people into swindlers and manipulators.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

While angst ridden teens may experiment with both, it has been my experience that liberal minded people tend to embrace marijuana into their adulthood, while more conservative minded people tend to drink beer.

But maybe it seems that way to me because I drink beer and hate pothead hippies.

not all potheads choose to be hippies by affiliation.

Personally, I don't think any amount of psychoactive influence can make patchouli smell any better or jam bands sound any better, but I digress...:)

lesterblog.blogspot.com

Having the misfortune of being born and raised in Massachusetts and attending UMass and Suffolk Law, I am well versed in the various classes of liberals and hippies. Yes, I've even dated girls who smelled like patchouli and have been dragged to a Phish concert.

But of all the liberal types in Massachusetts, the aging hippie is the most pathetic. The pseudo-intellectual, pot smoking, pony tail dangling, birkenstock wearing, hybrid car driving liberal who can't been seen in public unless he's toting a book around by some obscure author and hangs at wine bars and jazz clubs trying to be outrageous and cool when he's nothing more than a little, effeminate, ignorant dork.

Put down the roach clip poindexter, grow a pair and pound that beer.

is the term Rush has been using for them as well as their better dressed brothers and sisters. I think it is an apt description.

In Vino Veritas

my wife insists that I mend my sociopathic ways, stop hanging out on this keyboard or being just another old curmudgeon down messing about with the boat, so we're going out tonight - to a jazz concert put on in large part by the Juneau Arts and Humanities Council where I will be surrounded by Castrati and their much more dangerous and agressive female accompaniment. I just hope I come home with mine.

In Vino Veritas

I wouldn't worry about losing your wife's affections to a "castrati." :)

lesterblog.blogspot.com

you worry about; today's date, tomorrow's competition and all that.

In Vino Veritas

If I find instances where the word 'irregardless' was used in publication instead of 'regardless', does that mean that it is a word and, as such, its use is equally valid?

completely invented the word "normalcy," and nobody seemed to want to tell him that it never existed before. It's been used as a real word ever since.

lesterblog.blogspot.com

Was lecturing on word usage, no.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

 
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