Let me say something unpleasant this morning
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The contributors here have had an email conversation about the Virginia Senate seat being vacated by Senator Warner that is worth bringing to the front page.
I have always maintained the position that I am a conservative in primaries and a Republican in general elections. But I want you all to know my position on this race. I frankly don't care if you agree. I want to be crystal clear with all of you.
Given the choice between Mark Warner and Tom Davis, I'd go with Mark Warner.
The difference between the two is that with Mark Warner, you only have to figure out who the Democratic interest is to know which side he'll be on. With Tom Davis, you have to figure out who the highest bidder is to know which side he is on.
Davis has the personal and professional morality of a catfish and I cannot bring myself to lift one finger to help the man.
If the GOP is sincere in wanting to purge ineptitude and corruption from its ranks, it'd do well to discourage that man from running. Feel free to disagree with me, but don't think you'll persuade me otherwise.
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Out here in California, I could never, ever, ever reasonably conceive of voting for a Democrat, heh.
It sure is different out there, isn't it?
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But I do know that he is much more likely to be one less vote to fillibuster a GOP Prez's nomination to the Supreme Court and or one less vote for a Dem Prez's nomination to the Supreme Court. And, since the issue of homosexual marriage is likely to be decided there in the next 1-4 years, we need every vote we can get on that nomination issue. Mark Warner, like all the others, slyly suggests he is against homosexual marriage, but any reasonable person knows what the scheme is. Force the issue upon all of the citizens and all of the states through federal judiciary legislation.
Never forget, David Souter was nominated by President George H.W. Bush
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Tom Davis is the Senatorial equivalent of Souter. He goes in talking conservative and next thing you know he thinks Alan Dershowitz would be an excellent nominee for the Supreme Court once President Clinton's supported funding Tom's new Northern Virginia rail line.
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Erick, Just yesterday you were promoting Susan Collins, who voted against banning partial-birth abortion. Now you are slamming another Republican for his morality? Did I miss something here, or did somehow the base level of morality become nothing more than a political tool to be used only when convenient?
Collins is not likely to do anything that her constituents would find scandalous. Also: Maine is not Virginia.
I'd be interested in hearing Erick's bill of particulars on Davis myself, but I can sympathize with the general idea that after Craig, Vitter, Foley, Ney, and Cunningham, we ought to be concerned about policing our ranks better at the entry level.
"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill
If you want to go by the constituent standard, Vitter's on pretty safe ground. What's more, Joe Biden and Patrick Leahy voted for the ban. Vermont and Delaware aren't exactly red states.
Erick is talking amorphously. What has Davis done that would send him to jail or elicit FBI inquiry. As much as people here despise Collins and Snowe, they aren't the ones in the crosshairs of the law right now. Being a moderate does not mean being unethical. If there is actual evidence of unethical behavior, I wish someone would put it on the table.
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Erick spoke of his "personal and professional morality". I am not arguing that Collins did anything illegal. Strictly speaking, neither did Heinrich Himmler. Whether something is legal is entirely distinct from whether it is moral.
I'd also distinguish between morality and ethics. Morality is whether you take a job as a hitman. Ethics is whether you report the income you earn from it. I don't think the former is any better than the latter.
I do not consider the two from Maine moderates; they ARE liberals. I'd say anyone anywhere to the left of Kay Bailey Hutchison is a liberal.
In fact, I'd argue that Virginia is a lot closer to Maine then any other Southern state when it comes to highly elected officials.
I'll treat it as purple at least if not blue and for purple states, my rule of thumb is pretty much any Republican.
Would you take Capato in the Senate instead of Byrd? I would in a heartbeat and I think the comparison here is pretty close.
His failure to unify behind the Republican nominee is part of what put Warner in his seat in the first place. While we can count on Collins to vote against conservative social issues, I don't think she's ever cost us a seat by failing to unify behind a nominee.
Warner (John) is a Republican, and the current occupant of the seat Davis would seek.
The Democratic senator from VA, Jim Webb, isn't a senator because Davis failed to support Allen. He won because Allen had foot in mouth disease, and 2006 was a slaughter for us.
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
Let's be clear, Webb beat Allen for one reason. Both sides can claim otherwise, but Webb won because of Iraq.
Webb, with his extensive military background and "machismo" was able to beat Allen solely because of the opposition to Iraq.
That Allen did not push the issue that Webb will be forced into voting how Schumer, Leahy, etc. tell him to vote on judicial nominees was a mistake on Allen's fault, but given Iraq it may not have been enough.
But certainly in '08 that issue should be on the front burner for all GOP candidates, both Senate and Presidential candidates.
Never forget, David Souter was nominated by President George H.W. Bush
Would NOT have been a race without Macaca. It would never have gotten close enough for Iraq to matter.
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
Looking back, it's obvious Webb had the thing won from the getgo because Allen never showed up for the campaign. He didn't run for reelection. Not at all.
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Has never held a Senate seat...
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
Keeping in mind that I was trying to be generous, I understood that he meant that Davis's work during Warner's election bid to the governorship helped Warner take the governor's seat in 2001, and thereby give him the foot up he'd need to replace the other Warner in the Senate.
Now, is that what he meant? No idea; but I was trying to be politic.
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And fair enough about the discussion down thread as well.
Part of my posting has been disagreeing with Erick's original point, and part has been trying to dig out why all the animosity is held towards Davis. I guess I've got some more looking around to do.
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
Although I must confess that lately I've begun to wonder whether the 'R' behind the other Warner is a typo as well.
But in some instances, we're going to be the highest bidder, right? So he'd vote with us.
I really don't understand the logic on supporting Warner over Davis. You're not saying he's corrupt are you? You're arguing he has no principles. I'm not sure that's true, but even if it is, give me a Republican with no principles who'll vote the right way more often than not over Mark Warner any day.
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
and living right next door in the People's Republic of Maryland, I think I'd be willing to wager a case or two that he won't.
He has in the House. There's no reason to think he won't in the Senate, especially with an overall more conservative electorate.
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
Perfect opening for his return...
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With the prospects of the Democrats picking up 7 seats in the US Senate in 2008, the first thing that redstate does is endorse a Dem candidate.
Real dumb. You guys are losers and no wonder why the Democrats are so much better at acquiring power -- we are a bunch of wimps and turn on our own.
that gets spouted around here constantly. A vote is intended to express who the voter believes is best for the job. If one don't believe someone is a good candidate, one should not vote for that candidate. If it were me, I would not vote for either of them, if I thought neither was worthy of the office. If Erick believes that the Dem is a better candidate, then he should vote for him. If the GOP wants to pick up seats, they shouldn't run incompetent boobs, as they have in so many other races.
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I agree that Tom Davis is, in reality, our most morally bankrupt option. I would much prefer Gilmore. That said, I don't think that I could support a Democrat for a federal office. If I lived in Virginia, and if Tom Davis were the nominee, I would strongly consider voting for the Constitution Party candidate.
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Is it because they know they have Congressional majorities but can't accomplish any of their priorities, and it's demotivating?
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Decided he probably wasn't.
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From Virginia. Why aren't we all behind a Movement to get him elected?
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He has a lot of fans here.
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He did a bloody good job at every position he's been elected to.
And even after having met him in person, I like him. Not something that can be said for the vast majority of politicians I have met at any level.
But then, I don't know anything about Cantor, nor have I met him...
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If so, isn't Davis a big underdog?
Second, Jim Webb won by a hair ina huge Democratic year.
Despite the first polls, this ought to be competitive. Whether Gilmore is the best candidate, I don't know. I'd be amazed however if Cantor runs. He's on the leadership track in the House, and has every reason to think that he could be majority leader or speaker in the next few years.
Davis is a behind the scenes lever puller, not a popular candidate. Well, that and a backstabber, which always puts fear in the other apparatchiks.
It would be easier to beat Davis in a convention.
He is pulling out all the stops to try to get state central to have a primary.
The conservatives are supporting having a convention because we have more say in the process.
And Warner is much more popular than Webb. This is a lean D seat right now.
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If the Dems increase their Senate majority, expect Stevens, Ginzburg or both to retire.
If we have a Dem president, we'll get two more liberal justices
If we have a GOP president, the best we can hope for is two moderate Justices.
We'd best plan, and temper our social/legal expectations, accordingly.
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Which is why I am with Erick in opposing Davis for Republican nominee. A real Republican might win, with Davis, a win is the same as a loss.
Do you think Tom Davis is going to vote down a conservative SCOTUS nominee?
That's really the only plausible explanation to what you are saying in the context of the current commenter's comment.
I don't have to like everything about Davis, but do you think he's going to go against a GOP president on a SCOTUS nominee?
Do you think he'd make a difference somehow on a Democratic nomination if the Senate is in the hands of the Dems?
Do you think we'd be better off right now with Davis in place of, say, Webb?
We'd be better off in immeasurable ways, but at the very least, we could be confirming judges.
Before conservative Senators can make a big difference, we have to CONTROL THE SENATE.
As I've stated earlier today in this thread, if we knock out all the moderate GOP Senators, we're headed for a permanent minority.
I'd take Davis a hundred times over a Democrat and not lose a wink of sleep over it.
of a conservative candidate for governor. I WILL NOT forgive him for that. And that is why I now say "Stuff it!" whenever anybody raises the 'we have to support the moderates so we can control the senate' argument. It doesn't work that way. When conservatives support moderate moderate policy gets enacted. When conservatives make the same call the moderates take their marbles and go home. Time for them to learn the only winning move is not to backstab.
If we elect Giuliani, I'd expect a couple O'Connor/Kennedy me-first justices, sure.
However a mainstream Republican would rather leave the seats empty a while, letting the Democrats stall, than put in a harmful justice. Just look at the court under your scenario:
Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia, Kennedy, Souter, Breyer
President Thompson/Romney could say to Chuckie boy "Wouldn't it be a real shame if Casey went down on a 4-3 vote?"
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SoCons pull Rudy aside and address him as follows. "You enjoy being Mr. President, right? Would you like to continue enjoying that office? You hold it whether we have your back or not, and it's a whole lot smoother if we're supporting you, Mr. President. Who was it you wanted to nominate?"
Senator Coburn would have the rocks to brace Rudy like that.
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I couldn't agree more. Tom Davis is wrong on all the big issues: Abortion, guns, taxes, spending, etc.
We don't need any more liberal Republican Senators.
is chaired by Ted Olson and includes Estrada and Larry Thompson. I don't think we have anything to worry about on that front.
I've been pounding hard and fast for supporting whoever in the GOP primaries for President and then coming behind whoever that is for the general election.
You seem to be pounding that gavel as well and, as someone up stream pointed out, pounding one for Susan Collins as well.
Your stand on this issue is a complete reversal from what you and others (I can't recall which editor it is) have pounded on including the guy who always says that if you won't abide by the results of the primary you don't belong.
I'm about as disappointed in this article as just about any non-Moby thing I've read on this site.
If you won't back Davis then you can't realistically ask people to back Collins, Romney, or Guiliani and at that point in time, the whole party will slide into the toilet.
Your post is a recipe for a permanent minority in the Senate.
Of the TX-22, support the Libertarian over the write-in post.
Hopefully in time this one will be walked back as well.
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
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Write in issues. Name spelling issues. A current GOP congress critter stepping down for corruption (or alleged corruption).
None of those apply to the Davis / Warner vote.
Here's the original thread - Eric was arguing that Smither had a better shot of winning, and that Sekula-Gibbs was polling behind him.
Clearly, that was not true.
So how was probably right?
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
I have no problem with electing moderates where moderates are needed; even stipulating that Virginia is such a place -- I dissent, but leave that to the side -- there are plenty of moderates who actually have real principles that are not, in fact, for sale, and have morality higher than the average gonorrhea bacterium, and are sitting in Virginia as we speak.
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That person? Because Erick said given the choice between the two, he'd choose Warner.
Open up a cannon on Davis in the primary. Wave the Gilmore banner or whoever ends up being the more conservative (or principled) option. But at the end of the day, if you'd rather have Mark Warner casting votes in the Senate for six years (or the rest of his Earthly existence) than Tom Davis, I think you're completely off the mark here.
We're not electing the face of the party, we're not electing a role model, we're electing a guy who casts 600 votes a year on appropriations bills and other things like that. Seven or eight times out of ten, Davis will vote the right way. One or two times, Warner will. I don't think this is a hard choice at all.
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
I'm not sure I'm as far as Erick, but I'm farther than Ben.
While I agree that
we're electing a guy who casts 600 votes a year on appropriations bills and other things like that
I disagree with the first words of that sentence, before the first comma. We are discussing electing the face of the Party in Virginia and, God help us, outside, when -- not if -- he goes stinky.
I loathe Mark Warner. With a white-hot passion and grape sauce on top. But I'm not going to see the Republican brand take another hit because of a philandering, waiting-to-be-bought-if-not-bought-already porker.
You wonder, below, why all the insinuations. Let me put it this way: How many Tom Davis associates, employees, and partners are now or have been recently the subject of legal probes at the State and Federal level? How many times has Davis knifed a conservative in the back, especially at the behest of someone who just filled his campaign coffers? How many women to whom he wasn't married has he groped? (And bonus: How many are elected officials?) And talk to me about trains.
I am not convinced the man has a single principle that isn't for sale. I'm not worried about his voting record, assuming he can be bought, can stay bought, and can hide that he's been bought -- but that's a lot of assumptions right there. If he fails in any of those things, we lose critical votes in a State where we should have a better Senator in the best case scenario. In a worst-case scenario, we lose that Senator, and we see this in the WaPo:
FBI Raids Senator Davis's Fairfax Office
Third Mistress in a Week Comes Forward to Testify
No thanks.
Give me a moderate who has non-fungible principles and we can talk. Otherwise, get this scum away from us, I beg.
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I add that I am one of the most ardent Tom DeLay defenders from whom you'll ever hear. If I find this a problem, it has to be six different kinds of awful.
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Snarlin Arlen as your Commonwealth representative for the last six senate races. Yeah, I live in the People's Republic just south of my birthplace, but my heart is still up north, and Snarlin Arlen is what you'll get with Davis. Maybe even what's his name who switched parties to get a better committee position. With the D in the seat at least you have a chance to replace him every year. With an R in the seat you're stuck with him until he gets indicted for bribery or sending improper text messages to under 18 year-old pages. And then the whole party gets a bad rap, not just the slime who did it.
Mitt and Rudy are running nationally (leaving aside the arguments over them generally), Collins only in a blue state. Davis is running in a state in which we ought to be able to elect a more conservative candidate. If pro-lifers can't win in Virginia, we really are in trouble.
Anyway, the main point here is that Erick thinks Davis is sufficiently untrustworthy that he will eventually become a liability for the party. That's a separate issue from ideology, and one we would be wise to heed at the stage of hiring people.
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Right now Virginia isn't electing ANYONE with an (R) after their name. I'd like at least ONE Virginia Senator with an (R).
I'm not saying DONT VOTE GILMORE. I'm saying that it's stupid to NOT VOTE DAVIS if he wins the primary.
Virginia isn't a RED STATE any more ... too many Dems in the DC burbs.
Collins, Guiliani, and Rommney have never stabbed a Republican primary winner in the back in the General Election. In some races, I might even vote for them. Say Guiliani for mayor of NYC or Romney for governor of Taxachussettes.
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Any good Republicans in Virginia who may run?
For as bad as Davis may be, Warner would be another vote for Reid as Majority Leader, Leahy as Judiciary Committee Chair, etc. Warner would also be tough to unseat as an incumbent six or twelve years down the road.
Is there no one besides Davis, Allen and Cantor that would be a good candidate? I have a hard time believing that the Field is this small. WHO else could run?
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Yours is the cheap offhand psuedo-thinking that rationalizes the long therm control and damage to the nation of democrats.
Any Republican is better than any democrat.
If you cannot get that through your head, you are simply supporting the party that has positioned itself for defeat in war, bad economies at home, un-reformed plaintiff law, and the slow decline of the nation.
It's that kind of thinking in reverse that lets the Democrats walk all over people in their coalition.
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while I am willing to throw out the GOP bums in the primaries.
The problem with your argument is that it ignores the consequences. If we can get a GOP president and either a near split senate or a GOP one in 2008, we could sew up the Supreme Court for thirty years.
I'm more than willing to back the Tom Davises, Rudy Guilianis, and (insert your questionable candidate here) for four to six years and have the SCOTUS in our hands for thirty.
Rudy Giuliani would put judges on the court that would mandate freaking taxpayer-funded abortions... his hands are not my hands.
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Come on, put the hyperbole gun down.
#1) No President can pick ask a SCOTUS nominee in advance how they would rule on individual issues.
#2) Neither Hillary Clinton or the devil himself would give you court mandated tax payer funding for abortions. It's not doable in the structure.
Perhaps it was my mistake, I thought we were having a serious conversation.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg stated that she thought Roe v Wade was wrongly decided but that she could not say how she would rule on any PARTICULAR future case involving same.
Nominees frequently cite bad past rulings, like Dred Scott, Plessy, etc.
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Giuliani has stated that he believes that if you have a Constitutional right, and that people can't afford that right, then government needs to step in and pay for it.
He's also stated that he would appoint strict constructionist judges, were he President.
He's also stated that a strict constructionist judge could uphold Roe.
Roe created a Constitutional right to abortions.
See where I'm going with this now?
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Erick, and other readers.
As someone who personal knows Congressman Davis I would hope y'all would meet the man, talk to him, and get to know him before judging his personal life, or issues the MSM may have highlighted.
Congressman Davis is THE reason that the GOP is alive and well in Northern Virginia.
I also know his daughter, and have seen him as a father.
My father recently left my family for someone at his work place, I am not without some sort of emotion or sense of morality in the situation, I just hope you can see the full picture before coming out against Tom and for Gov. Warner.....
He can not "out moderate" Warner and he can not excite conservatives. He is the WORST possible choice.
Warner is better on 2A rights than Davis, and that is a big deal in Virginia.
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I've got serious doubts on his ability to be a Senator who does not run afoul of the gossip papers or does not run into corruption issues.
While it is true, yes, that he's been the only reason NOVA isn't completely blue, he's also not been hesitant at all to plunge a knife in conservatives to suit his own political purposes - and that's done damage throughout the state AND on Capitol Hill.
He's replacing John Warner, though, so the bar ain't that high. I would probably still vote for Davis over Mark Warner, but I'd feel pretty sick after - and I wouldn't be at all surprised if, a few years down the road, Davis is another example of the corrupt pork-loving ideological squishes who inevitably find themselves in legal trouble.
Cantor would be my hope, but he seems unwilling to do it. Allen needs more time to rehab, and I predict he'll run for Governor again in the future.
Keep insinuating there's something not right about Davis with kickbacks or some other such scandal. Have there been rumors about this that I've just missed? Or are these guesses since he doesn't have much of an ideological mooring?
“We don’t need any more cultural centers,” Mr. Coburn said. “We’re fighting a war; why should we be spending any more on a cultural center?”
I disagree with that. The problem of course is that people will get excited the WRONG way, at least vis-a-vie putting an R in office.
to People For a Permanent Majority given the thinking in this thread.
Which would make this "Sell out everything we can to win at any cost" State.
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This is just another reason in a long line of why Democrats greatly outdistance Republicans on the blogosphere. Not only are they more mobilized, but they know how to win.
Speaking as a Virginian, I will vote for Tom Davis and do everything I can to support him because I've seen Mark Warner in action, and that's not who we need in the Senate. And if the nominee is Jim Gilmore, then you'll see election results even more lopsided than Santorum-Casey in Pennsylvania.
Get your priorities straight, Erick, and if you can't manage that, then stop betraying our candidates because they don't meet your personal litmus test.
Come now. The Republican Party is not entitled to anyone's vote. Every nominee must earn that vote. If some voters hold back, it's not the fault of the voter. It's the vault of the nominee.
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How can you expect Tom Davis to earn people's votes if people who barely know him give up on him--and our best chance at keeping the seat--before he even announces his candidacy?
I'm fairly certain that Erick doesn't live in Virginia, which must by why he's so willing to give us two Democratic Senators.
I was ready to give you a serious reply, but your parting shot is just so mind bendingly dumb that I'm not going to even try.
It just doesn't even make sense on at least two levels.
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As a Virginia resident and voter, I will fight to support whoever the Republican nominee is. If Erick lived in this state, I wonder if that would change his outlook.
I also wonder who these people that dislike Tom Davis feel would be a better candidate.
Let's say we put up a candidate, named Shmom Favis, for argument's sake, who has indicted and under-investigation colleagues, partners, associates, and employees in large numbers. Let's also say Shmom is, from a public personal morality standpoint, a hand grenade waiting to go off.
Now, I don't live in Virginia, though I have family there, who, sigh, would probably vote Democrat anyway. Nevertheless, I have no desire to subject them to six years of Mark Warner.
That said, I have no desire to subject the National Republican Party to being associated with FBI raids on (yet another) Senator's office.
Make sense?
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As one of Davis's constituents, I have heard nothing about that, so it seems interesting, to say the least, that the only sources I've heard digging up this dirt on Davis is on a site that purports to be one supporting the Republican Party.
And my question still stands: If not Tom Davis, who? Or should we just concede a Senate race in a red state right here and now?
I thought we were talking about Shmom.
Hit Davis's Wikipedia page. Pay attention to the details about his current wife.
Hit the WaPo archives for the bits about his associates.
Do a little looking about trains.
Look, is there someone out there who could stomp Warner? Probably. Is he running? No. Does this mean that I don't understand that we're going to lose this seat if we don't get behind Davis (and maybe even then)? No, I fully understand this -- but I'm scared of the last two years bleeding into the next four while we're trying to undo Donkey gains from the last two.
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