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“It is shameful and dangerous that Senate Democrats are blocking an extension of surveillance powers that enable our intelligence and law enforcement to defend our country against radical Islamic extremists.” — John McCain at CPAC

ImageGeorge Allen is introducing John McCain. He says they don't agree on everything, but John McCain has been a fighter on wasteful spending, taxes, the line item veto, life, etc.

The crowd really likes George Allen.

Now he's said he supports John McCain and the crowd goes nuts.

And now Tom Coburn comes on stage.

Coburn says, "John may not always tells us what we want to here, but what he tells us, he will do. We won't have things switched on us when he gets in the White House."

He says McCain will take on terror and take on the "looming financial catastrophe facing our nation."

"The fact is we have not had a President these last eight years willing to take on Democrats *and* Republicans in Congress to cut wasteful duplicate spending." The crowd applauds.

"No presidential agenda, no matter how conservative, survives Congress. [it fades out here. Coburn sucks at speaking directly into the microphone] . . . . warm the hearts of the taxpayers. Due to the failure of Congress, I don't know that we've had a comprehensive GOP Conservative agenda since 1995. . . . Most Republicans were marching off the bridge. John McCain stayed on it and fought."

"John McCain fought the largest entitlement expansion since Lyndon Johnson (the Bush medicare plan). Conservative criticism of McCain wasn't there when he was fighting that plan," Coburn continues.

"John McCain will get the government and insurance companies out of the doctor-patient relationship."

Coburn points out that McCain voted for Bork, Thomas, Roberts, Alito, Janice Rogers Brown, etc. "I also knows he wants us to be approving conservative judges now."

"He doesn't have a secret plan to push amnesty as President." Then he takes on McCain over BCRA and says they disagree, but no one can disagree that McCain is committed to rooting out corruption.

"John McCain has a conservative record on the most important issue of our time -- the sanctity of life."

He then introduces John McCain and the crowd roars -- applause.

The McCain speech is below the fold.

[McCain deviates from the text to praise Mitt Romney, thank him, and say nice things. "You are welcome to join my campaign based on conservative principles . . . A great and fine man . . ."]

Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. It's been a little while since I've had the honor of addressing you, and I appreciate very much your courtesy to me today. We should do this more often. I hope you will pardon my absence last year, and understand that I intended no personal insult to any of you. I was merely pre-occupied with the business of trying to escape the distinction of pre-season frontrunner for the Republican nomination, which, I'm sure some of you observed, I managed to do in fairly short order. But, now, I again have the privilege of that distinction, and this time I would prefer to hold on to it for a while.

I know I have a responsibility, if I am, as I hope to be, the Republican nominee for President, to unite the party and prepare for the great contest in November. And I am acutely aware that I cannot succeed in that endeavor, nor can our party prevail over the challenge we will face from either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama, without the support of dedicated conservatives, whose convictions, creativity and energy have been indispensible to the success our party has had over the last quarter century. Many of you have disagreed strongly with some positions I have taken in recent years. I understand that. I might not agree with it, but I respect it for the principled position it is. And it is my sincere hope that even if you believe I have occasionally erred in my reasoning as a fellow conservative, you will still allow that I have, in many ways important to all of us, maintained the record of a conservative. Further, I hope you will grant that I have defended many positions we share just as ardently as I have made my case for positions that have provoked your opposition. If not, thank you for this opportunity to make my case today.

I am proud to be a conservative, and I make that claim because I share with you that most basic of conservative principles: that liberty is a right conferred by our Creator, not by governments, and that the proper object of justice and the rule of law in our country is not to aggregate power to the state but to protect the liberty and property of its citizens. And like you, I understand, as Edmund Burke observed, that "whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither . . . is safe."

While I have long worked to help grow a public majority of support for Republican candidates and principles, I have also always believed, like you, in the wisdom of Ronald Reagan, who warned in an address to this conference in 1975, that "a political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers."

I attended my first CPAC conference as the invited guest of Ronald Reagan, not long after I had returned from overseas, when I heard him deliver his "shining city upon a hill" speech. I was still a naval officer then, but his words inspired and helped form my own political views, just as Ronald Reagan's defense of America's cause in Vietnam and his evident concern for American prisoners of war in that conflict inspired and were a great comfort to those of us who, in my friend Jerry Denton's words, had the honor of serving "our country under difficult circumstances." I am proud, very proud, to have come to public office as a foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution. And if a few of my positions have raised your concern that I have forgotten my political heritage, I want to assure you that I have not, and I am as proud of that association today as I was then. My record in public office taken as a whole is the record of a mainstr eam conservative. I believe today, as I believed twenty-five years ago, in small government; fiscal discipline; low taxes; a strong defense, judges who enforce, and not make, our laws; the social values that are the true source of our strength; and, generally, the steadfast defense of our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which I have defended my entire career as God-given to the born and unborn.

Those are my beliefs, and you need not examine only my past votes and speeches to assure yourselves that they are my genuine convictions. You can take added confidence from the positions I have defended during this campaign. I campaigned in Iowa in opposition to agriculture subsidies. I campaigned in New Hampshire against big government mandated health care and for a free market solution to the problem of unavailable and unaffordable health care. I campaigned in Michigan for the tax incentives and trade policies that will create new and better jobs in that economically troubled state. I campaigned in Florida against the national catastrophic insurance fund bill that passed the House of Representatives and defended my opposition to the prescription drug benefit bill that saddled Americans with yet another hugely expensive entitlement program. I have argued to make the Bush tax cuts permanent, to reduce the corporate tax rate and abolish the AMT. I have defended my position on protecting our Second Amendment rights, including my votes against waiting periods, bans on the so-called "assault weapons," and illegitimate lawsuits targeting gun manufacturers. I have proudly defended my twenty-four year pro-life record. Throughout this campaign, I have defended the President's brave decision to increase troop levels in Iraq to execute a long overdue counterinsurgency that has spared us the terrible calamity of losing that war. I held these positions because I believed they were in the best interests of my party and country."

Surely, I have held other positions that have not met with widespread agreement from conservatives. I won't pretend otherwise nor would you permit me to forget it. On the issue of illegal immigration, a position which provoked the outspoken opposition of many conservatives, I stood my ground aware that my position would imperil my campaign. I respect your opposition for I know that the vast majority of critics to the bill based their opposition in a principled defense of the rule of law. And while I and other Republican supporters of the bill were genuine in our intention to restore control of our borders, we failed, for various and understandable reasons, to convince Americans that we were. I accept that, and have pledged that it would be among my highest priorities to secure our borders first, and only after we achieved widespread consensus that our borders are secure, would we address other aspects of the problem in a wa y that defends the rule of law and does not encourage another wave of illegal immigration.

All I ask of any American, conservative, moderate, independent, or enlightened Democrat, is to judge my record as a whole, and accept that I am not in the habit of making promises to my country that I do not intend to keep. I hope I have proven that in my life even to my critics. Then vote for or against me based on that record, my qualifications for the office, and the direction where I plainly state I intend to lead our country. If I am so fortunate as to be the Republican nominee for President, I will offer Americans, in what will be a very challenging and spirited contest, a clearly conservative approach to governing. I will make my case to voters, no matter what state they reside in, in the same way. I will not obscure my positions from voters who I fear might not share them. I will stand on my convictions, my conservative convictions, and trust in the good sense of the voters, and in my confidence that conservative pr inciples still appeal to a majority of Americans, Republicans, Independents and Reagan Democrats.

Often elections in this country are fought within the margins of small differences. This one will not be. We are arguing about hugely consequential things. Whomever the Democrats nominate, they would govern this country in a way that will, in my opinion, take this country backward to the days when government felt empowered to take from us our freedom to decide for ourselves the course and quality of our lives; to substitute the muddled judgment of large and expanding federal bureaucracies for the common sense and values of the American people; to the timidity and wishful thinking of a time when we averted our eyes from terrible threats to our security that were so plainly gathering strength abroad. It is shameful and dangerous that Senate Democrats are blocking an extension of surveillance powers that enable our intelligence and law enforcement to defend our country against radical Islamic extremists. This election is going to be about big things, not small things. And I intend to fight as hard as I can to ensure that our principles prevail over theirs.

Senator Clinton and Senator Obama want to increase the size of the federal government.

I intend to reduce it. I will not sign a bill with earmarks in it, any earmarks in it. I will fight for the line item veto, and I will not permit any expansion whatsoever of the entitlement programs that are bankrupting us. On the contrary, I intend to reform those programs so that government is no longer in that habit of making promises to Americans it does not have the means to keep.

Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will raise your taxes.

I intend to cut them. I will start by making the Bush tax cuts permanent. I will cut corporate tax rates from 35 to 25% to keep industries and jobs in this country. I will end the Alternate Minimum Tax. And I won't let a Democratic Congress raise your taxes and choke the growth of our economy.

They will offer a big government solution to health care insurance coverage.

I intend to address the problem with free market solutions and with respect for the freedom of individuals to make important choices for themselves.

They will appoint to the federal bench judges who are intent on achieving political changes that the American people cannot be convinced to accept through the election of their representatives.

I intend to nominate judges who have proven themselves worthy of our trust that they take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people's elected representatives, judges of the character and quality of Justices Roberts and Alito, judges who can be relied upon to respect the values of the people whose rights, laws and property they are sworn to defend.

Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will withdraw our forces from Iraq based on an arbitrary timetable designed for the sake of political expediency, and which recklessly ignores the profound human calamity and dire threats to our security that would ensue.

I intend to win the war, and trust in the proven judgment of our commanders there and the courage and selflessness of the Americans they have the honor to command. I share the grief over the terrible losses we have suffered in its prosecution. There is no other candidate for this office who appreciates more than I do just how awful war is. But I know that the costs in lives and treasure we would incur should we fail in Iraq will be far greater than the heartbreaking losses we have suffered to date. And I will not allow that to happen.

They won't recognize and seriously address the threat posed by an Iran with nuclear ambitions to our ally, Israel, and the region.

I intend to make unmistakably clear to Iran we will not permit a government that espouses the destruction of the State of Israel as its fondest wish and pledges undying enmity to the United States to possess the weapons to advance their malevolent ambitions.

Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will concede to our critics that our own actions to defend against its threats are responsible for fomenting the terrible evil of radical Islamic extremism, and their resolve to combat it will be as flawed as their judgment.

I intend to defeat that threat by staying on offense and by marshaling every relevant agency of our government, and our allies, in the urgent necessity of defending the values, virtues and security of free people against those who despise all that is good about us.

These are but a few of the differences that will define this election. They are very significant differences, and I promise you, I intend to contest these issues on conservative grounds and fight as hard as I can to defend the principles and positions we share, and to keep this country safe, proud, prosperous and free.

We have had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won't continue to have a few. But even in disagreement, especially in disagreement, I will seek the counsel of my fellow conservatives. If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it. And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in complete accord.

I began by assuring you that we share a conception of liberty that is the bedrock of our beliefs as conservatives. As you know, I was deprived of liberty for a time in my life, and while my love of liberty is no greater than yours, you can be confident that mine is the equal of any American's. It is a deep and unwavering love. My life experiences in service to our country inform my political judgments. They are at the core of my convictions. I am pro-life and an advocate for the Rights of Man everywhere in the world because of them, because I know that to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator. I will never waver in that conviction, I promise you. I know in this country our liberty will not be seized in a political revolution or by a totalitarian government. But, rather, as Burke warned, it can be "nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts." I am alert to that risk and will defend against it, and ta ke comfort from the knowledge that I will be encouraged in that defense by my fellow conservatives.

You have heard me say before that for all my reputation as a maverick, I have only found true happiness in serving a cause greater than my self-interest. For me, that cause has always been our country, and the ideals that have made us great. I have been her imperfect servant for many years, and I have made many mistakes. You can attest to that, but need not. For I know them well myself. But I love her deeply and I will never, never tire of the honor of serving her. I cannot do that without your counsel and support. And I am grateful, very grateful, that you have given me this opportunity to ask for it.

Thank you and God bless you.

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So much for Senators not becoming President.
ALL the possible nominees are senators now...

"Guns don't kill people...
"...But they sure help!"
-Paul Giamatti, Shoot 'Em Up

They are still theoritically possibilities.

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

Who? by Raven

"Guns don't kill people...
"...But they sure help!"
-Paul Giamatti, Shoot 'Em Up

when both major party nominees are senators.

Not well enough. He said most but not all of the right things, but it will not be enough. If his strenuous actions this year as a senator match them, and he fights tooth and claw for a closed border and permanent tax cuts NOW, he may avoid a 70-30% bloodbath.

Big if. We'll see.

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"Put your faith in God. I know *I'm* going to..."

-Taniwha

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

Yeah, well, he better take that step and lots more, and quickly. Unless he convinces an awful lot of people, he will lose as ugly as anyone ever has, and time's a wastin'.

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"Put your faith in God. I know *I'm* going to..."

-Taniwha

At least in MANY decades. That would be a good thing to look up.

Kevin Price is Host of the Houston Business Show (M-F at 11 AM on CNN 650), Publisher of the HoustonBusinessReview.com and writes frequently in his www.BizPlusBlog.com.

There has never been an election pitting 2 sitting Senators against each other.

Great speech. Wish I could've seen it delivered.

Erick has an early copy.

Go to cnn.com and click on the video to the right for live streaming

Tom Coburn for President. I mean VP

*The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end."
- Maximus

Wow, who is this guy? He looks like McCain, but sounds like Reagan. I don't want the real McCain to stand up, let's keep this guy!

Kevin Price is Host of the Houston Business Show (M-F at 11 AM on CNN 650), Publisher of the HoustonBusinessReview.com and writes frequently in his www.BizPlusBlog.com.

"The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end."
- Maximus

John McCain is on the GWB level. Of all the speakers I've seen today, he pales in comparison. Coburn, Allen, Romney are all great orators. John McCain's strength is not public speaking.

"The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end."
- Maximus

McCain's an excellent debater and off-the-cuff speaker, unlike Bush. He's less compelling as a prepared-text-reader.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

If I'm going to support McCain, dammit, Jim, I want some zingers. So he'd better be taking his vitamins. I want those neuron mitochondria in top shape, Airman!

That didn't really work out that well for him last time.

"Nec Aspera Terrent"
bene ambula et redambula
Contributor to The Minority Report

Best I recall, that's what he got shot down in.

In Vino Veritas

If you mean he is not inspirational like Romney or Obama, then you are correct. However, McCain does speak clearly and with precision. Unfortunately, our current President often had great things to say but was just not always skillful enough to say them.

Illegal immigration... I bet he wishes he could get those words back in his mouth.

Kevin Price is Host of the Houston Business Show (M-F at 11 AM on CNN 650), Publisher of the HoustonBusinessReview.com and writes frequently in his www.BizPlusBlog.com.

to tell him HE'S NOW THE FRONT RUNNER and has a lock on the nomination? Maybe this is Johnny Mac being enthusiastic? Color me uninspired.

"Cowards cut and run, Marines never do"

I do not believe this guy for one second. As a lifelong conservative, I'd rather go down fighting for my ideals than to sacrifice them just to get somebody in the whitehouse who claims to be a "Republican."

I guess your ideals include socialized health care and left-wing judges, because that's what your non-vote will make that much more likely.

Thanks again.

If we're going to start calling liar liar, then let's have the courage to stand by it.

I'll make a crow deal with you and any other takers. If President McCain keeps his promises, will you eat crow?

If he doesn't, I will. So certain about what will occur, then stand by it.

Name your terms, place your bets.
absentee

Tell me you are not a person who supported Romney. You now do not believe McCains run to the right? When he names Thompson as VP everyone else will be convinced.

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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

This isn't a lights-out speech but its not that bad.

are going to give us four disastrous years of Hillbama. What is an ideal but a particular standard or ultimate goal. In not voting for McCain you state that you are "fighting for my ideals," where, I take it, your ultimate goal or standard is sticking to conservative principles and not voting for someone you perceive as not being sufficiently conservative (if I am incorrect on any of this please correct me).

In not voting for McCain you are essentially contributing to a victory for the Democratic Party in the Presidential election. In not voting for McCain you are contributing to four years of liberalism in the executive branch of the U.S. government. How is giving this nation four years of liberalism contributing to a futherance of conservative principles? If Hillary or Obama are as bad as we all believe how can you countenance supporting four years of their reign? How does that advance conservatism? How does that advance America?

I'm sure there are many who disagrees on one level or another with McCain, but do you actually believe that he is worse than Hillary or Obama? And, if not, then how can you subject this nation to four years of Hillary/Obama liberalism?

McCain may not be sufficiently conservative for you and he may not represent that ultimate goal or standard that you hold dear but he at least walks the path toward that goal, unlike the liberalism of Hillary/Obama he doesn't have his back turned to that goal/standard and he isn't walking in the other direction. Any reasonable person should see this, and if you are so opposed to McCain that you are willing to subject this nation to four years of Hillary/Obama I'm not sure what kind of principled conservative you are. I'm not sure what your ideals really are and, for that matter, I don't want to know what they are.

I have been struggling with a response to people who say that they would rather have Clinton or Obama as President, than vote for McCain. This expresses exactly what I was trying to put into words... Thanks!

...that a liberal Democrat gets elected while our nation is at war and while there are old liberal Supreme Court justices waiting for a Democrat to get elected, assuming you're in a battleground state and they're enough of you who think this way. How does a liberal Democratic president bring this nation in closer alignmnent to your ideals than McCain? Oh, and McCain doesn't "claim" to be a Republican, it is a fact that has been operative since the 1970s.

1. McCain, 2. Thompson, 3. Giuliani, 4. Romney

to put it mildly.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

You had to expect that at some point - this was their way of communicating that one good speech does not heal all the wounds. And in general they were otherwise quite gracious.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

Good point EPU, does not heal all wounds. However, a good try is better than a bad try or no try @ all...

He'll stick to this promise too.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

This speech reads well. It's contents will play fairly well, I'm guessing, though the messenger will dampen enthusiasm for it. Regardless, I am glad that McCain is saying these things right now.

The real test comes when the media turn on McCain. And make no mistake, if he keeps giving speeches like this, they WILL turn on him. How does McCain react to that? If he keeps trying to rally the base in the face of new-found media hatred for his positions, then maybe, just maybe I can see him having the stomach to fight Congressional Dems when it matters.

If the media roast him, and he immediately returns to the "maverick" rhetoric that won him their fawning affections well, then, I think our questions about whither McCain may be answered all too soon.

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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.

SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.

Definitely better than GWB as a speaker... (which is not saying much of course). I liked his reference to fighting for FISA. He speaks like a Conservative *now*; we'll see how he continues.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

McCain's impending nomination? Is he gonna make peace?

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

...booed him a little the first time he said the words "illegal immigration", but even those turned into cheers after only a little bit.

can someone give a general sense of how the crowd received his speech?

Only bad part was when he mentioned illegal immigration.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

It was on his strongest suit...the war...but still...good class shown by cheering him on.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

"We have had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won't continue to have a few."

Translation: I WILL Maverick again.

Your comment translation: Obey General Confusion or you're a liberal.

absentee

How about this...
"All I ask of any American, conservative, moderate, independent, or enlightened Democrat, is to judge my record as a whole, and accept that I am not in the habit of making promises to my country that I do not intend to keep."

Let’s review the record as requested:
McCain Kennedy (Amnesty): This promise will be kept.
McCain Lieberman (Global Warming Tax): John will keep his promise.
McCain Feingold (Anti Free Speech): Promise Kept.

Just extrapolating on his record and taking him at his word.

If you can't recognize that the number of disagreements we have with McCain are much smaller than the number of agreements we have...well...I just don't know what to tell you.

He will nominate good judges
He will prosecute the war on terror vigorously
And he will absolutely fight for lower spending

Get over it.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

He will do permanent and lasting damage to the country and the party if his promises are kept.

Granting amnesty to 12 to 20 million new Democratic voters could very well prevent any conservative from reaching the presidency for a very long time. (Granted preventing a conservative from reaching the presidency may not concern McCain) (Amplification: I said conservative, not Republican)

The Global Warming Tax could upend the economy without any benefits and all for a dubious scientific/religious belief.

Curbing the 1st amendment for political advantage is just scary.

He didn’t just vote for these things, he co-authored them, not only that he gave away the store to the very liberals he co-authored these bills with. (or maybe he just agreed with them)

If he reaches the presidency I fully expect him to stay on course and continue to reach across the aisle to the Democrats.

And lastly, I don’t believe he will be good on judges, again, look at his record. What do you think he will do, side with conservatives or reach across the aisle to form a consensus with the Democrats?

Sorry for bringing up McCain’s actual record, but as you say "Get over it".

Yeah, I know the drill, SHUT UP conservatives and just vote and then go away till next election. I know we are not allowed to "Maverick".

Put the pressure on Congress (you know...the ones who have the actual power to pass legislation) to make sure that none of that stuff ever reaches his desk.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

three disagreements vs. hundreds of agreements. Not very good at math are you?

It's your vote, if those items are unimportant to you then go for it.

BTW next time, for extra impact try questioning my bathing habits!

It is what it is. Half a loaf is better than none. Insert your cliche here.

Either he says he is with us, and it's pandering, or he says we may principally disagree and it's *ominous*.

Totally absurd.

absentee

isn't that really just the bed he made with all that Maverick business?

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

Unless you are proposing principled disagreement doesn't exist.

absentee

Simply, he has done a whole list of things in the last 10 years that the normal constituency of CPAC is very, very opposed to. That's just a fact.

Coming here today , he had the choice of how to frame himself -- he could thumb his nose at CPAC, or just lay down and say 'I was so BAAAAAD, please forgive me', or take a middle ground, which he wisely did.

But I don't think any blame of conservatives and/or CPAC is in order here, if they feel a certain skepticism.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

Who's blaming? This commentary was about the speech itself. NKBG and others are spitting from one side of their mouths on his finding common ground, and from the other side on his honesty about the ground not shared.

Even I run out of patience for those who cannot give ground. NKBG is one of those.

Only a fool says red isn't red because the apple is in the devil's hands.

absentee

The person upthread noted that McCain said 'we will continue to have disagreements', and said you can translate that as 'McCain will Maverick again'. NKBG added that 'half a loaf is better than none'. [meaning, one thinks, that we'll sometimes get conservatism, and sometimes get those other McCain things - like AGW, like no ANWR, like BCFR, and all].

I would say that they recognized what he said as honest - but were not liking what the particular comment said about how he would govern.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

Although I'm still feeling proud of my apple comment

absentee

You have every right to be proud. It was a good line.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

to dialogue about this whole thing but as I've said before, if McCain's disagreements would have been principaled and civil I wouldn't be having this war inside of me right now. It's not just his disagreements with conservatives, it's the vitriolic and vulgar way in which he disagreed with us.

When Obama hosed him on earmark reform, he called him out in public firmly but politely. That's a far cry from dropping F bombs on people like John Cornyn and Charles Grassley or calling Pete Domenici the south side of a north-bound horse.

My greatest fear with McCain is the scorched earth policy he seems to engage in with those on the right who disagree with him and that he doesn't seem to listen to anyone. Those are not good traits for an executive to have.

Sigh. Still rolling through the abyss :-)

"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

Men of temper don't spare the opposition. His public statement to Obama and behind-the-scenes to Cornyn are not comparable. I wonder if the MSM may *suddenly* discover equivalent outbursts against Democrats. Though that may prove a bitter victory.

absentee

but that just brings me to his "temper". :-) I'm not trying to be a butthead, and my thought process too involved to get into in a post (it's diary type stuff but I want some of the emotions to deflate here in order to have a rational discussion) but let's just say it revolves around my penchant for chess and when it's prudent to sacrifice a rook to win the game and win it's stupid. Where's my Prozac? :-)

"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

If those types of vulgar outbursts towards Rs were 'leaked' and 'common' knowledge, in the Washington world of no secrets, don't you think similiar incidents would have been leaked if he had done that to Dems, 'specially media darlings like Barak?

"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

It is reasonable to assume a number of things regarding the outbursts. There are even unreasonable assumptions we could make in John's favor. I guess that's why I'm as comfortable overlooking the topic as I was when Bolton's confirmation was underway.

absentee

Not sure what you mean by "I guess that's why I'm as comfortable overlooking the topic as I was when Bolton's confirmation was underway."

Thanks!

"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

Temper was a topic when Bolton was trying to get confirmed. The dems kept saying he was too grouchy and ornery. I tend to the cool-head side, but I traffic with those decidedly less ... reserved. One thing I know, military men can be quick with the sharp tongue sometimes. For all the years gone by, I still see McCain as a military man.

Not trivially, this is a common perception among veterans and active duty.

absentee

Still leaves me with knots in my stomach (the temper and not listening, not the cursing; like you, I'm a bit more mildmannered, 'cept on the football field :-) Someone, the handle escapes me, posited a couple days ago that McCain's never had to lead anyone who wasn't bound by duty and flag to obey without question.

Thought that was possibly a good insight. Helps me understand better, but still a trait which is not good to have in an executive)

"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

That is exactly why action, dramatic action, THIS SENATE TERM, is his only way to avoid a bloodbath. When you've crossed your own side as bad as he has, words don't matter any more.

Let's see it, John. We're not easy, but we can be had. So shut your face, and fight for us in your day job. If it looks good, and I mean so good that we forget your past treachery, we'll think about it.

It's too hard? Well, that's why stabbing the voters you now need was such a bad idea. It wasn't US that made do it.

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"Put your faith in God. I know *I'm* going to..."

-Taniwha

When did I accuse him of pandering? Citation please.

And when did I say that the fact of principled disagreement is ominous? What's ominous is that in his reconciliation speech McCain emphasizes that he's going to keep sticking it to conservatives.

The only thing "totally absurd" around here is me bothering to respond to your weightless comment.

Long ago I argued that being an administration outsider, “John McCain would be free to run against Bush’s bad policies, while he promises to pursue his good ones. In effect, he could run against the worst of both parties.” He offers change without Obama’s inexperience. He captures the middle that by now hates Bushes and Clintons. As bad as things are for the Republicans, a John McCain nomination puts Democrats into an even worse position.

Which brings to mind one final note: Are things really that bad for conservative Republicans if McCain is the nominee? Or are they bad for just certain conservative Republicans who would be due absolutely no thanks from a President McCain?

A person who is a conserative doesn't have to drop the word in every other sentence.

Talk about platitudes.

X-Angel

http://www.cafepress.com/txromney

ANgel by Oz

I know you are in mourning (like myself) about Romney, but since conservatives have been pounding on him to be more conservative or at least offer up mea culpas to the conservatives in the party, I think it fit well.

Since Romney used the word Conservative a lot, does that mean he too was not Conservative?

and when he tries to be, that's no good either.

Grow up.

which has lasted a quarter of a century, and he's spelling it out with what we know are more than recently discovered words.

On illegal immigration, he used the word, and he acknowledged the disagreement. He said that he was trying to solve the problem as were those who opposed him, and at this point, it was time to make certain that the borders were secure. Only then can we deal with the rest of the problem. It's only common sense, and he'd have save himself some trouble if he'd have seen this earlier.

When he used President Reagan's name, it was personal, not some meaningless oath of allegiance to a man he once dismissed.

After this speech, and if they keep coming, I will not be afraid to support him. Pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, kill earmarks, reduce corporate taxes... and these are things for which he's fought in the past.

I have no idea how it played with other conservatives, though, or with the Romney supporters.

Before the speech I was inclined to support him without enthusiasm.

After the sppech I am inclined to support him without enthusiasm.

I agree.

You can't help but takes shots at Romney, albeit veiled shots. You claim to be convinced after a speech and yet you bash Romney supporters for believing his "conversion" despite his record as governornor, now that's hypocricy.

"The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end."
- Maximus

absolutely outstanding. the hairs on the back of my neck were standing.

They that are with us are more than they that are against us.

I wish his delivery was more polished, but he seemed to hit the right tones.

It is shameful and dangerous that Senate Democrats are blocking an extension of surveillance powers that enable our intelligence and law enforcement to defend our country against radical Islamic extremists.

You would almost think he listened to RedState.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

absentee

Frankly, I just can't like him. He's burned us on so many occasions, on too many issues. Worse yet, he's going to get torn to shreds by the media and his opponent. Uninspiring to say the least.

Bob S

was an off the cuff reaction to Mitt's suspension of his candidacy. It would have conveyed some real class and could have helped to bridge the gap.

FWIW, I think Mitt will go a long way to help the fund raising abilities of the Republican party.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

we need somone who is excellent at building effective organizations.

can you think of someone better?

Wubbies World, MSgt, USAF (Retired):
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System.out.println("An argument is a sequence of statements aimed at demonstrating the truth of an assertion.); }

I honestly don't know who the chair is. I think it was Glenn Beck yesterday that was saying the same thing. Who is the RNC chair? Why don't we hear from him more? It almost seems like the RNC is falling apart.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

It would be much better than who we have right now... But would he do it? Would it be too much of a let down after running for the highest office in the country?

It was. What you read was the submitted text. He went off the speech at the beginning. It is mentioned earlier in this post.

I turned on CNN late...I did hear the replay though. It was very classy. I hope that Mitt can continue to contribute to the party in positive ways.



Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

I liked the way he put it when he talked about people who are talking about staying home or voting for Hillary.

He's up there with Charlie Crist -- what does that tell you? I'm sorry, I'm sorry for the Republicans and I'm sorry for the country -- there's just not a thing I heard that will get me off my hands.
I agree with Rush -- if we're headed toward socialism -- better the democrats take the hit for it.

governor of a swing state? The nerve! LIBERALS, ALL OF THEM!

Crist, Martinez -- certainly these alledged (R)'s are NOT conservative. They have repeatedly proved this by word and deed.
Remember; the lesser of two evils is still evil.
I will find conservatives to support, and if there are none available, I WILL NOT VOTE.
Throwing your vote away, is casting it for somebody you do not believe in -- and I do not for one second believe McCain's supposed conversion.

Perfection I must have, nothing less will do.

Are you saying "unless you agree with me all the time, you are Socialist?!" Some of the McCain critics on this site sound like Soviet Commissars that are looking for the least hint of idealogical impurity.

NC

Rush wants to take his ball and go home.

Great, we'll have to see how well he sleeps in his sleep number bed when Hillary's Supreme Court throws out all restrictions on abortion, approves gay marriage and mandates its recognition across state lines, throws out the Solomon Amendment, reinstates the Fairness Doctrine, etc.

Rush may also be okay with socialized medicine. Rush may think Hillary will have a better plan to fight the Islamists. Rush may be cool with a nuclear Iran selling nuke tech and/or weapons to Al Qaeda. He's probably okay with Hillary demanding Israel grant a right of return. He might not even mind when China takes over Taiwan.

But a lot of people think those things might be bad and that they might not be so easy to undo a few years from now. Well, at least we'll be able to blame Hillary. Oh yes, and the people who enabled her rise to power.

You can't afford the price of free corn.

He has no said we'd be better off with Hillary than McCain or that he wants Hillary to win. In fact, he has explicitly come out and stated that he never said anything of the sort. I still expect him to come around and reluctantly support McCain before this is all over.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

About someone who was responsible, more than anyone, else, for the Republican takeover of the House and Senate.

You simply do not know what you are talking about.

we're putting up a fighter and a leader. I argue with my democrat friends where Obama and Hillary have lead on anything.

I thought the speech went well. He hit the right points and did a good job of delivering it. I was pleasantly surprised at how kind the crowd was in listening to it. This was a tough audience and not inclined to approve of him. They were much more enthusiastic than I'd expected and even the opposition expressed on the illegal immigration section was within bounds and didn't prevent him from speaking.

He was my 2nd choice this time around, but I'll be perfectly happy to vote for him over one of the Democrats.

Jill

Someone said he can help the party with fundraising and I agree. I read that Mitt got lots of money in Utah from people who had been taken for granted and never courted seriously for donations. I hope and pray that Mitts loss is seen as being based on a lack of trust and not a rejection of his religion. We need the wonderful and disciplined support of Mormon voters somewhat in Idaho and Utah but even more in a tight Nevada. I hope money and enthusiasm flows to the one person who now can keep a liberal out of the White House, John McCain.

Huckabee is being interviewed in New York before his appearance on the Tyra Banks show. he said he's staying in.

guy so like others have commented upthread, I will need to see what he does when the MSM turns on him (if he keeps talking like this). His VP choice will also be huge for me.

Am still willing to listen and watch. I may be harder to convince than others 'cause I was a 'footsoldier' in the McCain revolution in AZ in the 80s & 90s and if that John McCain was running this year, this would be a no-brainer.

"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

...but I will be a happy camper if McCain accomplishes three things:

1. Win in Iraq and beat Dems over the head every day for their dishonorable embrace of defeat.

2. Hold the porkers to the fire by keeping his pledge to veto every bill with earmarks attached.

3. Drive a stake through the heart of universal healthcare. Social Security is unsustainable. With Hillary or Barack as Life-Coach-In-Chief, universal healthcare has the potential to be even more devastating.

That's all. But that's enough for me.

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"We want great men who, when fortune frowns, will not be discouraged." - Colonel Henry Knox

true accomplishments is a ton. Look at Clinton, he has no accomplishments. I find it amazing people think a president should get every multiple choice question "correct", as if they will acheive so many things. I just want to win this war and get the governmnet of our backs.

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Molon Labe!

"It is shameful and dangerous that Senate Democrats are blocking an extension of surveillance powers that enable our intelligence and law enforcement to defend our country against radical Islamic extremists"

The Democrats *tried* to pass an extension of the current provisions. Bush threatened a veto, and Republicans successfully blocked the bill. Let's put shame where it is due: placing telecom immunity before our countries safety.

...because it looks like now they won't get to throw umpteen billion lawsuits against telecoms, the better to frantically find something that can look like something that can approximate something that might be mistaken for dirt against the Bush administration.

I swear, you guys need to find better stuff to masturbate to.

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

... heh heh heh.. great...!

As always, the Republicans are protecting the country while the Democrats are busy protecting trial lawyers and terrorists' rights.

If the telecoms are not granted immunity, the ACLU and CAIR will make sure that a lawsuit is filed every time the phone rings in a Pakistani cave.

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"We want great men who, when fortune frowns, will not be discouraged." - Colonel Henry Knox

I've been saying for a while, if people gave him a chance, he has a lot of good things he has done and said. He is running as a conservative. Now that Romney is out, I'm glad to see people are giving him a chance. Thanks for that.

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Don't know if this has ever happened before at CPAC, but they had to request that those in attendance not BOO McCain... Now there is an excellent endorsement for our Presidential candidate.

Formally known as Deagle... "Golf is a way of life..."

I have been drawing analogies for years on McCain's and Burke's common understanding of how a proper representative democracy shall function, legislators and statesmen shall behave and how people freedoms can be "nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts". I knew it wasn't just a coincidence!

Great speech.

that George Allen botched up his 2006 campaign. He would have been the perfect candidate.

Jindal in 2012!

They dragged me kicking and screaming, but I'm in.

Very good speech. Please keep your promises. We'll be keeping track.

I'll buy your bumper sticker. Now let's kick some liberal ***!

www.scottbomb.com

We can vote for our senators/ congressman, state officials and not select a presidential candadate and that's what we plan to do if Mccain is the nominee in the general election

Found this video on townhall.com, Vets against mccain. And not just for his Voting Records that are totally against veterans

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!

We never believe what they say, because once they get elected they change, we look at Records. That is why we will Never, Ever , ever vote for Mccain. As a military member I refuse to vote for some one who runs on his War/ military record then Votes Against veterans and soldiers as he has.

www.vawatchdog.org.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1073039/dont_ask_mccain/

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_overview.php
must watch video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2008/01/viva-mccain-fiestas-you-cant-m...

Nice to have both Coburn and Allen on base in front of McCain because he hit it out of the park. Good framing of the picture at the start of his speech where he goes to the podium and has Senator Trainwreck Tom Coburn over his left shoulder and Former Senator Allen over his right.

Great speech, well delivered, and hit all the right themes. Probably the best speech I've seen McCain give since the 2004 convention. Reading it here just doesn't do it justice, you have to watch it (and the intros if you can).

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Two thirds of the world is covered by water,
the other third is covered by Champ Bailey.

believing that pile.

Here's some slight translations in the text.

"that liberty is a right conferred by our Creator, not by governments, and that the proper object of justice and the rule of law in our country is not to aggregate power to the state but to protect the liberty and property of its citizens."

Unless, of course, the liberty in question is the freedom to speak your mind against a politician near an election. Then? Not so much.

"I intend to cut them. I will start by making the Bush tax cuts permanent."

Forget what I said about them being only for the wealthy. I didn't mean it then, honest.

"They will offer a big government solution to health care insurance coverage. I intend to address the problem with free market solutions"

Of course, because of McCain-Snowe-Dorgan, there won't be very many new drugs and treatments coming along, but who said I knew anything about economics anyways?

"I intend to nominate judges who have proven themselves worthy of our trust that they take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people's elected representatives"

As long as they meet with Ted Kennedy's express approval, that is. Advice and consent you know.

"We have had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won't continue to have a few"

because, of course, I detest you all and don't really support what you do.

"If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it."

Of course, the only time that ever happened was the Keating Five incident, and correcting that flaw in me required that I sharply abridge freedom of speech for everyone.

"And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in complete accord."

And if not, well, ask Senator Cornyn what I think about that.

I know in this country our liberty will not be seized in a political revolution or by a totalitarian government. But, rather, as Burke warned, it can be "nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts."

I have experience in that, you know. See McCain-Feingold.

Sad, truly sad.

"And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in complete accord."

Looks like a wide open door.

But I will stay quiet for now.

 
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