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Putting The NY Times In Its Place

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We've had a bunch of people weigh in on this in the diaries and around the blogosphere and I don't have much to add except to say that if you actually watch the video of Senator McCain's exchange with NY Times reporter Elisabeth Bumiller it's pretty clear that McCain is doing exactly what he should be doing when confronted with a "gotcha" question about an old story on which there are no new facts and the reporter is just trying to pick a fight:

The Times and Ms. Bumiller are not on John McCain's side, and there's every indication by this point that he is well aware of that fact, and is now dealing with them accordingly. (Unlike the Obama camp, McCain is no stranger to the national spotlight - he was quoted on the front page of the Times as far back as 1967). Not to point out the obvious, but John McCain has been tested by strains far worse than Ms. Bumiller's questioning here. Sure, it's well-known that the man has a temper. Many successful presidents have. But there's a time and a place for getting your Irish up - righteous indignation is no sin - and this seems like one of them. I can't even imagine a single voter who would watch this video and be somehow distressed by the man's judgment.

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some problem with Sen. McCain on the issues, BUT this shows me he's MY guy in this fight for POTUS!!!

ALL MSM need to be slapped into their place....

Will now join the McCain army, not just vote for the man!!!!!
Go John!!!

Now if he had opened one of the hatches and given Ms. Bumiller a rapid exit to the ground...that would have been temper.

Big John is going to get more of the sort of c**p during this election cycle and he needs to come up with a sure fire way to express his displeasure without allowing the loons to claim he had lost his temper.

I'd suggest McCain study tapes of Hillary's laugh.

I can see it now.

McCain gets all wild eyed and starts laughing like mad...then goes...NEXT Question.

Proud member of the Barry Goldwater wing of the party !

Kerry is not liked by Vietnam Vets. Asking McCain if he was going to team up with him is about as big an insult the Slimes could dredge up. So she wasn't questioning McCain she was shoving caca in his face. He handled it with remarkable restraint.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

McCain actually seems to get along just fine with Kerry. They worked together on the POW project in 1996, and McCain dissed the Swift Boaters, as you may recall. McCain doesn't dispute that he took Kerry's call. The point is, he obviously recognized that him being Kerry's running mate was a ridiculous idea because McCain is, whatever else may be said of his ideological apostasies, a Republican, an Iraq War supporter and waaaay too conservative for today's Democratic party.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

The POW project was something McCain really wanted done. The swift boats were a type of attack he doesn't like. As to him taking a call, they are both Senators and McCain is very supportive of comity in the Senate.

I could very well be wrong though, he could just be sick of being asked the same question over and over again.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

... McCain has always tried really, really hard not to hold onto any bitterness from Vietnam; for instance, he befriended David Ifshen, and he always refused to go after Clinton for the draft-dodging, etc. I expect McCain's instinct *was* to dislike Kerry for his conduct after he got home, but I suspect he also fought that instinct very hard, and may actually have worked to like Kerry, just to compensate. He's not always so forgiving on other issues, but he consistently is on the question of "what did you do in the war?" I'm guessing it's because, given his temper and given what he went through, if he allowed himself to hold onto this stuff it would consume him. Personally I admire him for this attitude; YMMV.

If Christ is risen, nothing else matters; and if Christ is not risen, nothing else matters. — Jaroslav Pelikan

This is exactly what the Senator needs to do to get conservative like myself fired up. I loathe the MSM and anytime they're put in their place, I am delighted!

"To believe in nothing is to believe in everything. To believe in everything is to believe in nothing"

My response would have been "Why are you so stupid?"

I guess anyone can do in a Pinch...

Lights will guide you home...

giving the Democrats any further ammunition on the "McCain's an angry guy and too grumpy to be President" front is not useful. I don't think the way he handled the reporter was bad, but it was capable of being spun. He needs to avoid stuff that will feed into the image the DNC will try hang onto him. At some point, perception can become reality.

He might have been better off by just saying very calmly, "As has been widely reported, John Kerry had a conversation with me in 2004 and discussed the vice-presidency. Senator Kerry is a respected friend, but we disagree profoundly on many critical issues so I declined to pursue the idea. I am a proud Republican and am honored to be carrying my party's standard in the 2008 election."

One simply cannot help it if the Treason Media take everything out of context, deliberately lie, misconstrue, and misrepresent every single thing Republicans do.

The more you surrender, walk on eggs, watch every little thing you say in case it might be misused, the more they win. Telling a snot-nosed liberal reporterette to go pound sand, that's finally giving them a little training on how to do their job.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

Sounds to me like man did just fine. Read it and weep libs!

"Angry? you think THIS is angry? This is just annoyance. You have about 14 more stupid questions before you get to see 'angry'. Now, what's your next question?" ... all done w/ a smile.

THAT would have been the prefect answer

...Couldn't have been more harmless, and look... POOF all over the MSM? It's just getting so__ old!

"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich." ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.

over and over, past reason, past tolerance, past sanity. The worst part is "Fatty" Bumiller, who hates repubs with a passion, is and knows she is going back to a old and discredited story.

Way to go Fatty, of course McCain shouldn't be angry at your attempts to get him angry.

A big 5 for McCain. Given the increasing contempt that the public has for the media, less the Reality Based Community, this is a winner. Do it now John, it will make your life a little easier on the road to the White House. Even garden slugs feel pain, why not American [?] journalists.

"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville

Ask the same question in different ways to see if the answer stays the same
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

I read the headlines and pictured red faces and yelling. The headlines should have read something like, "McCain apparently doesn't paste a fake smile on every morning as well as Clinton."

His reaction aside, how is it that we nominate the dems' first choice for VP in 2004 AND have the unabashed support of the dems' VP nominee in 2000, yet the guy who didn't cross the isle once even to just pretend to be bipartisan is the guy who gets characterized as "The One" who is bipartisan and willing to work across party lines?

Oops . . . I forgot the MSM is part of our vast right wing conspiracy and we're supposed to just keep that under wraps until Clinton is done crying him to death. My bad . . .

...who is /enjoying/ the delightful shadenfruede of watching the Main Stream Media do EXACTLY what we've been saying they WOULD do to John McCain now that he's the nominee? Every time another of these stories breaks, I get a little chuckle. (Sure, it's not fair, and its wrong for the media to be so obviously in the tank. But they are, and everybody knows that -- except McCain. This rude awakening couldn't happen to a more deserving fellow.)

I hope the Senator learns the proper lesson from this. Hint: John, the media only gave you positive coverage when you were scoring own-goals. They are NOT your friends. And since you've made your bones the last dozen years stabbing folks like ME in the back, you don't have many friends left (enough to win the nomination by plurality in a divided field...but not enough to win the general eight months from now)

It's too late to win friends. But maybe you can acquire some /allies/ between now and November...if you make the right moves. But that's up to you.

I also wish the Senator would show HALF the passion attacking the press, the left, and Democrats, as he often does those on the right (when's the last time St. John dropped an F-bomb on Kennedy, Clinton, or Reid -- instead of Kyl or Santorum?)

I'm not totally sure about this, though I'll guess I'll find out. It doesn't actually seem to be the MSM in general -- most of them condemned the Iseman story, after all, which is part of why Mac was able to put it away so tidily -- so much as the NYT in particular. They really are going after him, and they're not being subtle about it. More like clownishly embarrassing, in fact.

Btw, I understand the bitterness about Mac's apostasies, but -- though this probably is no consolation -- he'd have done the exact same thing to the Dems, if he were a Dem. He has a problem with authority. The reason he gets madder at his own party than at the opposition is precisely *because* it's his own party: it's a constraining influence, and he doesn't like being constrained.

Barack Obama: Immanentize the Eschaton!

From Brit Hume's Political Grapevine

A study of the three broadcast network evening news programs indicates John McCain's media fortunes have taken a dramatic turn south since early January. The Center for Media and Public Affairs says the percentage of McCain coverage it deemed positive was 46 percent from mid-December through mid-February. But look at the contrast between his 97 percent positive number before the New Hampshire primary on January eighth — and just 30 percent positive since.

Let me repoeat that: 97% positive before, to 30% positive now.

Your second paragraph is the strongest argument AGAINST electing McCain I've heard. What is (or should be) the most constraining element in a politician's career? The will of the voters. Therefore, McCain's hatred of authority will lead him to oppose whatever his own voters desire, simply because they desire it? Geez...

You'd think 'liz asked McCain what it's like to be married to a rodeo queen.

Watch the hands--at the point of no return, where Obama ran to the corner, McCain clasps his hands and stands like a rock. Must have had a good trainer about 40 years back.

soli Deo gloria

Once again Senior Hothead shows his potential for flying off the handle. Any concerned person should ponder how he would manage his anger if he were at the helm of this country. Big deal if he had a conversation with John Kerry back in '04. I'm sure too he took exception to Kerry's actions after Kerry got home. If questioning ethics he should look toward our beloved leader's questionable service.

while attacking John McCain for a temper he did NOT show?

You beclown yourself as a TROLL!


But it is a classic D talking point, implicitly lying about the record of a man who served in a dangerous role in the TANG.

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We don't like it when you militarists come here, demanding that only those who have served abroad have valid political opinions. I thought we defeated that kind of thinking when we beat Japan in WWII. That's what you get when you get unquestioned military rule, fella.


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Oh don't kid yourselves, McCain went crazy, angrily nuts, so off his rocker you have to strain to hear him over the ambient noise of the plane's cabin. So crazy his hushed voice could be heard in a five foot radius. So schizo I had to turn my TV higher and higher to hear exactly what sort of bile -- I was promised bile by the MSNBC's subtitling! -- this relatively placid-faced man was spewing.

Not quite as much of a non-story as the Iseman affair thing, but close.

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I have watched this thing 3 times and have yet to understand how anyone could construe this to be anger. As was mentioned earlier, the very worst this is, is annoyance
BUT it does show the MSM's influence in setting the agenda

After years of wanting President Bush (who I admire) to stand up to the MSM, I am proud to see McCain doing just that. I was proud of Fred (my candidate) because he stood up to debate moderators and the media... And I am tickled pink to see McCain starting to do that now. Republicans are often too nice for their own good. Bush has been so nice and conciliatory toward the dems, and they have eaten him alive. I have no idea why they hate Bush so much, because he has worked with them and been so bipartisan that it is just ridiculous sometimes. I wish Bush had been far LESS bipartisan. However, I will always be grateful that we had President Bush instead of President Gore or Kerry.

I hope that McCain will continue to take on the press, and that he will embrace the base that he needs to win. If McCain can work on his conservatism, then his toughness would be a great asset IMO. And I do think that he is trying to make some inroads. This clip did not offend me at all. I was glad to see it.

OK by skey

I'm as anti-McCain as they come, but there's nothing really here, and it's being over-blown. He was annoyed, and that was it. I will disagree with one thing here. It was a perfectly reasonable question, because he's always dodged answering it before. So now he's gone from refusing to talk about it in general to just saying "everyone knows about it" and refusing to talk about it.

Why the reaction from the press? Because he's being cranky with a woman many years his junior, who immediately backed away from the question, and then he wouldn't let it go. And guys, this is a problem in the general. It may make all of you cheer that he's taking on the media, but it can be spun as 'grumpy old man'.

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