Mississippi Primary Results Open Thread
I'm calling it for McCain and Obama.
By Moe Lane Posted in 2008 — Comments (36) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
[UPDATE]: OK, with 29% it's 56/42 Obama, which is back in line with what everyone is expecting. Kind of a relief, really; this campaign's surreal enough as it is.
[UPDATE] Huh. With 12% of the vote in, it's Obama/Clinton 49/49. I can only assume that they haven't gotten around to the known Obama strongholds yet. Meanwhile, McCain won. [Another UPDATE]: OK, with 13% it's at 51/47 Obama. That makes more sense.
By lots. If it isn't double digits for either, something went seriously wrong somewhere.
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Wait...we need to count every vote!
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--"Faith is a free work to which no one can be forced. Nay it is a Divine work, done in the Spirit."--Martin Luther
The black-white divide is Mississippi is disturbing, though not surprising. As a native Louisianian, I expect as much from the area.
I have many thoughts on this, but sharing them is difficult . . . or at least uncomfortable. It does not bode well for the Democrats, but it also does not bode well for the nation.
From an AP news report:
"Obama was winning roughly 90 percent of the black vote but only about one-third of the white vote, extending a pattern that carried him to victory in earlier primaries in South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.
Obama was leading in the overall vote, according to an Associated Press analysis of surveys of voters as they left the polls."
In my profession, race and gender are paramount, while experience and quality count for less. To see it outside of academia saddens me. Of course, when neither candidate is qualified, what is left but race and gender?
What a mess the Democrats have made. I would have thought I'd be pleased to see it, but somehow, I feel sad.
Steve Willis
Professor of Law
University of Florida College of Law
The Dem Party has lived and died over the past four decades by dividing the country along racial and gender lines. Their constituencies of race panderers and femi-nazis have always been united in their hatred for the evil rightwingers.
It does my heart good to see them tearing each other's hearts out -- and would love for it to be unredeemable.
I stated in a post a couple weeks ago, this election has the possibility to set race relations back 40 years.
most interesting social actions in the history of race relations. From an anthropological perspective it makes one wonder if we are ever beyond our inherent tribal Id.
Much of our modern hopes and understanding of the world is based on our assumption that ethnic and tribal associations will eventually be superceded by and enlightened and progressive majority that does not see nor respect gender, skin color or cultural difference. Yet an election like this one seems at odds with both the common racial rhetoric and the common post modern understanding of our society.
Maybe we are just tribesmen at heart and the veneer of "Americanism" is only a facade after all.
I know other blacks have run for POTUS, but Obama is the first to mount a credible campaign. Same can be said for Clinton.
We'll get beyond this just like the residents of Louisiana got beyond the color line and elected Bobby Jindal.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
to the status quo but the question remains: Is the current phenomenom more representative of deep ethnic differences or a deviation from the norm.
I would argue there is a fair amount of evidence (for example the latent racial guilt of upper middle class liberal whites) that argues for the first.
I heard a similar report on the radio tonight. Obama won 90% of the black vote and Hillary won 80-something% of the white vote. Then they asked the question, "was race a factor?"
"DUH!", I said out loud with a grin.
The report continued with results from some "survey" that said, "2/3 of voters said no, race was not an issue".
That's when I lost it.
For the life of me, I've looked at census reports for several of the states that went Obama ... despite news (manic media meanderings) reports to the contrary, I just can't seem to make the numbers add up to what the media would like to say. For instance, Mississippi is 37% black and 61% white ... if she got 80% of the "white vote," Hillary ought to be getting almost 49% of the vote before counting in non-white voters! She got 38% (with 98% reporting).
I've also noticed that the Clinton News Network consistently avoids mention that "uncommitted" won 40% of the Michigan vote (where Obama wasn't on the ballot); regarding Florida (where no Democrats were supposed to campaign), nobody mentions that Hill attended at least two "private parties" in St Petersburg and Miami, the Sunday before the Primary ... and showed up again, that Tuesday afternoon!
Of course, NONE of the media mentions that Obama won by 2:1 margins in such "racially divided" (look up "sarcasm") states as Idaho, Wyoming, and Maine.
I point this out merely so that you are not surprised. :)
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
The big assumption being that state-wide voter populations are equally represented among the two major parties.
Nonetheless ... exit polls from several of the primary elections are often relied on by the Networks to make up their stories ... while the biggest poll of all ... the actual election result (with ZERO "margin of error") is often ignored. Fortunately, ballots aren't sorted by his, hers, red, white, or blue.
Seems kind of high considering both of them dropped out, but then I guess that's what you have with really small turnout as I imagine it was.
And it showed 0% votes counted -- both races called -- McCain and Obama.
Sounds like a Union election,
Mississippi may no longer be "burning" as Obama wins there!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-continues-momentum-and.html...
With malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see right.
Mike Huckabee has dropped out of the race, but he's still taking 12% of the vote against John McCain in Mississippi (9% reporting); ergo, McCain is doomed. DOOMED, DOOMED,DOOMED!
Well... I guess not. That being said, it will be an interesting contest if the Democrats avoid a nasty battle to the nomination. If they can keep the contest from going down to the superdelegates, they should be fine so long as they can counter McCain with a candidate whom voters trust with the national security. It would be good also if no Dem governors get involved in tawdry money transfer scandals involving prostitution rings.
(Am I counting chickens while they're still eggs, or am I having fun with the moment?)
he's a superdelegate, and might well be asking for work-release to go cast his vote at the convention for Hillary...
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
All he has to do is hang out and hope for a Democrat in charge of the USDOJ, really doesn't matter which one. Nasty old investigation will just go away; it was a private matter after all.
In Vino Veritas
Government really can't do anything in less than a year, and inside government, you can endure anything for a year. Been there, done that.
In Vino Veritas
When the Dems come in to power the investigations against their friends get dropped so the dems look good.
When the republicans come in to power the investigations against the dems get dropped so the republicans look reasonable.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
...will be somewhere between 56-60 percent for Obama and 40-44 for Clinton.
Straight math from the CNN exit polls gives Obama 59 and Clinton 41.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
From the CNN exit polls mentioned above:
Obama takes Dems 64/33 (71 percent of voters)
Clinton sweeps Republicans 78/22 (13 percent)
Indies are a tie at 48/48 (16 percent)
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
McCain has already secured the nomination. I don't think he even set foot in Mississippi.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
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For the Dem primary? It's a closed primary, right? One must register as a Dem to vote for Hillary?
...for Obama. He's not really going to make any significant headway in delegates, and the racial divide here was wide and clear, and that plays into the Clinton's strategy.
Plus, 40% of each candidates supporters now say they will be dissatisfied if the other candidate gets the nomination. That spells trouble for either one.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
I will talk about the other contests in Mississippi today and thats the Congressional primaries for open seat due to Senator Wicker appointment and open seat due to Pickering not running again.
Dist 1 Wicker Seat
GOP
McCullough 12,839
Davis 10,322
Russell 8,324
DEM
Childers 28, 951
Holland 23, 651
and other 4 candidates down the line
Dist 3
GOP
Charlie Ross looks to have won with about 17, 250 (interesting to note he just lost a statewide race for Lt Gov)
Dem
Joel Gill has won for the Dems he is a Pickens alderman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Ross
Big advocate of tort reform. US Air Force Academy. C-141 pilot during Desert Storm. Harvard law.
Not too shabby.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
Voted for Greg Davis to fill the District 1 seat of Roger Wicker, however all 3 of the candidates running were good choices.
Voted for my trustworthy and reliable Senator, Thad Cochran. He continues to do an outstanding job and he should easily win re-election in November. He ran unopposed.
Voted for Governor Mitt Romney even though he has dropped out of the Presidential race. I will NEVER cast a vote for John McCain, not even in the primary.
Overall it was a sunny day and it felt good to participate again in the election process. We will have a good slate of candidates in MS once the general rolls around.
Congressional Primaries Anyone? Know anything about them?
"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas


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